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Angry Student Protesters Storm Tory HQ In London
Wonder why the EURUSD just dropped by over 120 pips in an hour? This may have something to do with it:
From CNN:
A group of protesters broke into the headquarters of Britain's governing Conservative party headquarters in London Wednesday and set off flares before being forced out of the building, CNN's Atika Shubert reported from the scene.
They went on to set fires outside the building, where police presence was "minimal," she said.
The violence came during a largely peaceful protest by students against government plans to allow universities to increase tuition fees. The National Union of Students said 40,000 demonstrators were on the streets.
And from the Telegraph:
A group barged into the lobby of Millbank Tower, near the headquarters of the Tory party, before being forced out by police and security officers. They then began setting fire to placards outside the entrance.
Windows in the office block were smashed and a number of smoke bombs thrown. Dozens of police surrounding the entrance were pelted with water bottles and jostled by the passing protestors.
Up to 50,000 people, many waving placards, are marching though the streets of London in the biggest show of opposition to the Coalition Government.
Fun and games starting everywhere.
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I'm not sure any amount of education would help these fools.
What should young people be doing, then?
Storming the Bank of England, and killing anyone they find there.
Is that so much to ask?
I have no problem with that. What was the Tower of London for anyway?
Then again, UK could always sell some more gold to fund the 'education' of it's citizens. LOL!
what a stupid thing to say
hate and violence is not a solution, its just another problem
Yes, but it suddenly becomes THEIR problem. Which is very good.
Who are they, really?
5 junks and rising. lol
Beware being on the wrong side of the mob.
Unfortunatly, in a democracy, the mob is always right.
Unfortunately, in psuedo-democracies like the UK and the USA the middle class is getting screwed and in Europe the middle class know it and is acting in riots, etc., because they know that voting is a scam. In the US the great majority are sensing that they are getting shafted but dont know what to do. Perhaps some of their newly elected representatives will do something, but they are davids against goliaths. Check of James Petras´latest essay about state barbarism.
Beware being on the wrong side of the mob.
That IS the lesson grasshopper.
...ya don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows...
Shall we all passively spoon our gruel and hide in the barn when the Lord of the Estate demands his "droit de seigneur" of our Daughters?
Peace is preferable - but oppression, indentured servitude, and slavery - whether physical, emotional, economic, or combined - often require violence to end.
Excessive passivity gives license to slavery.
This time we should call them at their own game. There is no money, and there is no debt. Just file the UCC 1 Financing Statement claiming yourself the CREDITOR with a security interest in all the real property and tangible property of the DEBTOR. At that point, you can discharge all debt.
The monetary system designed in 1933 after the bankruptcy of the western world had two components: debit side debt-notes and the credit side backed up by the birth certificate, which is a surety or guarantee on the future taxable labor for the person in his lifetime.
For the big items, you are supposed to just discharge the debt, but the PTB did not provide instructions. And the banks intervened and steal/stole our credit.
For the expenses of daily living, you are supposed to use your debt-notes like a petty cash account. You spend debt-notes into the economy during the year, but you report how many debt-notes you distributed on the 1099B barter forms on your tax return at the end of the year. If you bought a house it is reported on 1099OID. Since these debt-notes represent a 100% tax on income, you get to be reimbursed.
The 1099Misc is income on the debit side, but 1099B and 1099OID represent income on the credit side. Since these are taxes paid, you can claim at least 30% of the 1099B and 1099OID refunded back to you.
Your CPA can never help you with this kind of transaction. It is part of the hidden monetary system. Better to work through it yourself.
kayl, keep it up.. I'm taking notes..
thx.
Take notes, but start reading the UCC at Cornell Law. Article 9 for Financing Statement and Article 3 for negotiated instruments and discharge of debt UCC 3-501.
Ok Kayl, we have to talk. According to your logic, we, as citizen, can eliminate any "bank" in order to access our "credit rights" associated with our birth in this country, and get that credit directly from the government itself. What does that accomplish? You are then directly indebted to Uncle Sam. Being directly indebted to Uncle Sam is very different than being debt free. Your posts never postulate on the next step. Great, I can get rid of the bank to access my own credit. So what? Even if your system of elminiating the banks from the equation were to work, what does it accomplish? If I need to access that credit, I must still be in debt, this time directly to the government.
So according to your logic the debt-notes you spend into the economy are "paying" for things? They are all IOUs that must be "paid" at some future date whether you are using debt-notes or your own credit.
But I can live better discharging with credit instead of letting them take away all my petty cash. With petty cash I can buy stuff in the stores (for now). With credit I can discharge all the punishing taxes they are envisioning.
I plan to be filing a lot of 1099C and 1099B forms this year. Since discharge of indebtedness is credit used, I don't have to pay taxes on it, and I'll end up with a big check at tax time.
See line 21 on the 1040 form. See Payments section starting at line 58. See line 59 for all the green money reported into the economy. See line 60b for Nontaxable earned income to report your discharge of debt amount.
See line 67a for amount you want refunded.
I expect the sovereign to default at some point. Therefore, I've prepared the security agreement for the CREDITOR/DEBTOR. CREDITOR is indemnified by the DEBTOR up to an unlimited amount or up to 15 billion (this amount still needs some research). If the US goes into default, then all discharges occur and the CREDITOR is no longer liable for any sovereign debt or taxes. Since we live in a paper world, it's nice we can write our own insurance policies too.
KNOW ALL MEN BY THESE PRESENTS...
Order of the bond....
These forms of business are known among men of wealth for centuries. We are still living in a feudalistic society. So we might as well start using the processes.
kayl: Great posts and I'm taking notes too. I do have some questions, well, not really questions, thanks to your efforts to explain the situation thoroughly, more clarifications on a few things that might seem contradictory. I'm in Wa. state also. Keep up the great work.
wynn, chicken must die for you to eat it, lumber cut for the fire to warm you and dead bankers to set us free from slavery. Maybe you just dont see how you are a prisoner of their whims
If it wasn't for violence against elites, there would be no America.
Perhaps you should go and read the Declaration of Independence again. It's one badass, rebellious piece of writing signed by smart people who were pissed off and ready to pick up guns and kill the soldiers of the greatest power on Earth.
Violence is absolutely a solution.
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"
America. Fuck yeah.
+1, Matt Damon!
Love it, thanks.
Jefferson=consummate badass
If you fail to defend your rights, you lose them. Natural rights included.
Hate and violence ARE solutions. If we strung up Dimon, Blankfein, Mozilo, Thain, Etc... for their crimes against humanity, we'd put their replacements on alert.
Finance as practiced by these people is nothing but a form of warfare, anyway.
I wish.
If there is a football game and or some free beer on the way, they won't make it to the BOE building.
It isn't asking enough. After storming The City and killing everyone there, who is guilty by association and being accessories to usury, you must also hunt down the bloodlines behind the crimes and eliminate them. Completely. And their servants.
Those cryogenic facilities and 'fertility' clinics must also be trashed, lest the poisonous seed of the enemy remain in them.
When the containers of power have been emptied, there will be stillness. In the stillness, a movement will begin. It is the stirrings of the Great ruler (note capitalisation) whose lodgings are simple, whose bed is not far off the ground, whose drink is the morning dew, whose food is sprouts pounded and warmed in the Sun. Such an one is worthy of power, but has no use of it. Laws and regulations will fall away.
When laws fall away, the people will be content with a walk in the meadow, content to sit and fish, caring not if the hook is taken. Glass will become precious, no longer strewn on the ground. Silent and idle contemplation will be a virtue, and meddling no longer observed.
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Poisonous seed cannot alter its nature (i.e. you cannot convert a genome) and it must be utterly destroyed. After great destruction is peace.
These young people are asking someone to give them something for nothing. It's too late for these young people. They are a lost generation, raised in a grand socialist experiment that is now over. They will learn the hard way that there is no free lunch. Thus begins their education.
So what should they be doing? They should be getting themselves an education in the real world.
That would be learning to bend over like their wise and mature elders?
Their Elders are in even worse shape. They will soon come to realize that the promises their government has made to them can not be kept. Europe is a rotting corpse. The time of death simply hasn't been announced yet.
fuck off and die you rabid right wing dipshit
Don't fall for the right/left dichotomy; it is a false path.
Hey Tosser, you know what? Theyve been TAUGHT for generations they get something for nothing! Now when the something fund has ran dry, the Kleptocracy scialist state has to DEAL with it!
Cant tell people they have a free ride, then pull away the free ride, and expect everyone to just sit down and shut up...they've DESIGNED all this...get it?
Exactly my point. Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money. We're well past running out of other people's money. Now we just print money when we need it.
These kids are going to get the education they are asking for. They just may not like how they get it.
The whole world population is about to get an education at the University of Hard Knocks and very lean living.
My alma mater.
Ill take a drive to Beverly Hills Just before dawn and knock the little jockeys down Off the rich peoples lawn and before they get up ill be gone (Ill be gone) Before they get up Ill be knocking the jockeys off the lawn (down in the dew)
...and the tuition at UHK is free!
Aww fuck off.
Corporate fucks are the biggest welfare babies around.
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EAT SHIT.
No one is bigger on welfare than the cocksucking banks. Let the bastards who own bank shares hand over their wealth before these kids can't get an education. Newt Gingrich and Boehner can eat my dog's crap if they feel hungry.
WTF? The people are being forced to eat shit while the bankers make out like pigs!? If the people have to take austerity, it's only fair that the bankers eat shit and are nationalized and the fraudsters prosecuted. Till then all options should be on the table, violent protest is one of them.
Couldn't have said it better: they want "something for nothing" - and the "chicks are (not) free!" This is what "kids" do - probably stirred up by the unionists and communists. Lather, rinse, repeat.
What do you mean? There is no money, and there is no debt. Their government is just trying to steal more of their debt-notes.
Time for them to get to know the real monetary system. Go to law school and discharge all debt.
These young people are asking someone to give them something for nothing.
Kind of reminds me of the banks. Punish the politicians and financial crooks then maybe the people wouldn't be against cutting entitlements.
It works for the wealthy in London.
You're so right. I, for one, can't wait until I can see large segments of the population living in filth and squalor, without any education or proper medical care. Hell, I'd even kick back my tax break. Er, maybe not.
Teaser,
Why do you think people of any age should trade their lives for pieces of paper backed by nothing which the government hands out freely to its friends and cronies?
People like you want something for free. You want people to trade their lives for paper worth nothing.
People like me? Did you even read my comment? Reading comprehension is a learned skill. One that you haven't quite grasped yet apparently.
Good luck with that. While I likely agree with you, you're part of our problem. You were apparently educated in the government schools.
"It's too late for these young people. They are a lost generation..."
"Their elders are in even worse shape."
I took this to mean you think everyone is stupid (except for you, of course). Then you say,
"They should be getting themselves an education in the real world."
I took this to mean, go get a job working for the man's scrip. There is also the possibility this means sit on Zero Hedge and learn about the real economy. Either way, you are just full of shit.
Agreed. This is what happens when government overpromises and invariably, underdelivers. There is no such thing as "free". Everything has costs, and everything has benefits, whether seen or unseen. If you think you're getting something for free, it just means somebody else is paying for it, likely with another somebody else's money. Thatcher was right - "The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to spend."
Are they a lost generation? I don't know. But if you think government is gonna ride to the rescue, you are worshipping at the altar of a false god.
My 2 copper-coated zinc pellets anyways.
Get a job and a mentor! They will LEARN vastly more important life skills. Shit why don't they sit down and have a decent conversation with their parents about what it take to survive in the real world. Hint: It's not Psych 101 or Art History.
basketweaving 101
non-genital centric underwater basket weaving 101 - Thank you very much!
bamboo basketweaving is quite beautiful. japanese do it mostly. masters at this old craft. they even make the wooden box that the basket fits in. a very intriguing art just to let you know.
tradition, bitchez.
The reason the country is in the shape it is in is their own versions of TARP to save the oligarchs.
Now why I agree their target might be misdirected, I'm encouraged that the Europeans are at least willing to take to the streets over the dystopian nightmare we have woken up to.
You both might be operating under the assumption that these institutions actually teach something worthwhile.
Learning the circumstances, and operating conditions under which food grows, and thus the way our imediate universe works, would be a great start. Everything else blossoms from there.
And pray tell me, how would they know this?
How can they possibly know that modern day educational institutions are worthless?
How can they possibly know that food circulation will be cut off soon?
How can they possibly know that WWIII is coming soon?
They can't. They're blinded by their peers, facebook, and television. The fact that they're protesting at all reveals, at the very least, a will to act.
Not so in America. That is the real problem.
The fact that they're protesting at all reveals, at the very least, a will to act.
+1, now if only it could be properly directed. Like say, why is it that I need to rack up all of this debt in the first place in order to procure employment? Who benefits form my tuition? Why does it cost so much? Am I getting value for my "education"?
Debt enslavement and indoctrination to be a good little serf is what they should be protesting.
It is neither fair nor realistic to expect kids to be out there protesting the very core code of the Matrix.
Yet what they are rejecting is their own direct piece of exactly what you say they should be protesting: increased debt enslavement (student loans) and being good serfs (passive victims.)
For people their age, they're doing plenty just as they are.
No, they are demanding that the producers in the society become debt slaves and passive victims to provide them with said education. They don't want the feudal system to end, they just demand to be the Lords.
Again, expecting kids to turn the world around. BS.
They're demanding a little noblesse oblige.
Kids are the ONLY ones who can turn the world around . . . everyone else is too old, and will be dead soon.
Elders should cater to the youngers, not act like the selfish pieces of shit the baby boomers did.
The world belongs to the young. Why do you think Hitler and Mao sought to indoctrinate youths asap?
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
Again, misdirected violence achieves nothing.
These are good points.
I got an invite to this protest, in hindsight I should have accepted it and brought an anti-central bank placard with me. I'd say the younger generation are more aware of the current state of affairs then the baby boomers, They may not understand the details but they are far more open to the truth.
I've found that if you carefully introduce the idea that the financial oligarchy STOLE our money and that is why were screwed most people will be receptive, I've even got a few people interested in ZH. I think there will come a point when people stop blaming political parties and start blaming the puppet masters.
I guess our current president moved the "Personal Responsibility Starts At" (TM) counter to age 26 ... so by those standards, they are "young" ... by all means ... carry on then!
/Sarc
They're protesting tuition increases.
They don't want anything for free. Learn to tell the difference.
So the "Free Education Now" on the signs actually means that the UK government is "jailing" education?
Oh the tyranny ...
lol, good point
Well seeing the average year of education costs more than one can earn in a year at that age they might just be smart negotiators.
You never start a negotiation from what you actually want.
... or they could just be indoctrinated socialists who think that TINSTAAFL is bunk ...
They're about to get their free education. It just won't be the one they were looking for.
And Americans are in line right behind them for a free education they're not going to like.
The Liberal Democrats' key campaign pledge was to eliminate tuition fees, this was obviously a popular policy with students. They won enough seats to form a coalition government with the Conservative party, now that they are in power they are raising tuition fees from £3000 pa to £9000 pa. So the students just want what they were promised. Also, Scottish students don't have to pay tuition fees so it's seen as unfair that English students should have to.
Notice the sign that says:
"F**K
FEES
FREE
EDUCATION
NOW"
or perhaps they meant "free" as in to release from bondage...?
ETA: damn, beat by one minute!
FREE HAT FREE HAT FREE HAT!!!!!
Free sounds about right, as that's about all school is worth these days. Nothing but indoctrination.
I heard more about the fraud "Elie Weasel" than any other topic.
"F**K FEES" RFLMAO what a pussy! that's a protester's sign? puhleeze. they already lost. no bad language allowed in the steets. they already submitted to gov control with their protest signs. what a joke.
GET THE H*LL OUT OF VIETNAM would have been LOL
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/vietnam/getoutofvietna...
Yeah,that is pussified behavior.
Yeah, I don't get what the asterisks are for there. Fork? Fark? Flak? What are they trying to say??
/sarcasm/
There is no need for us, the bankers don't require any more workers. So I suppose we should just eliminate ourselves.
Double post
Funny how they label any young mob as "students" like if they have an intelligent point to make.
Now, where's the water canon...
Somebody needs to tell that albino Freddy Krueger that halloween was 10 days ago. This is more about being a anarchist freak and getting on TV than being upset that tuition is going up.
For some, of course.
I'm fairly certain, however, that the majority are simply fed up with paying more and more for an education that is worth less and less.
Yes, but those people don't dress up in Halloween outfits and jump on cars.
All 50,000 British on the streets are dressed up like that one douchebag, right?
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for protests. But I get the feeling this is a bunch of socialist brats causing havoc because they no longer get "something for nothing" from the gov't. Call me when they riot for the gov't spending too much money and putting them in this mess.
Actually it is Edward Scissor Hands, in reference to "Stop the Cuts"
you may have(or not) read on the signs.
I'm not so sure. University of Costa Rica fees went up massively in August. The students staged demonstrations in which even the professors joined in. It became bizarro world when the court decided the increase by a minimal amount, but then the university decided to go all in and charge a 13% increase.
The PTB have found a pressure point that they are willing to use worldwide. It serves their agenda to get the students rioting.
Time for all students to file the UCC1 Financing Statements and learn how to use the real monetary system. There is no money, and there is no debt. Only debt-notes and discharge of debt. Read UCC 3-501.
That's the education they need.
University of Puerto Rico (I still have family there) students staged a protest last year. Not due to tuition increases, but because the faculty went on strike. The faculty are all government employees and the government announced personnel and salary cuts (the island is in worst financial health than the mainland US). The faculty went on strike for a full semester and refused to give students transcripts so they could go take their student loans and TA to private colleges. At the end the cuts happened anyway and students lost a full year of education. University refused to refund tuition payments for the lost year and demanded payment for the extra year students now have to spend in college to finish their education. Not pretty.
The students should burn that University to the ground. Or at least the faculty lounge.
Let's hope they can do better than their French counterparts!
Lesson 1, coming right up.
LMAO!
+Infinity.
Was just going to say this ... that and ...
Education is already free ... go to the library and start reading ...
Even though I have an advanced degree, I learned more from my public library than I did from any of the elitist professors who "taught" me ...
. . . . .
Do you not understand the social pressures to enslave oneself with debt via university attendance?
Nice strawman.
Very poignant juxtaposed with the students in the images as both are looking for a brain ...
Strawman? Are you fucking kidding?
You're glorifying the value of an education obtained from the library (which I actually agree with), but at the same time, you brag about your "advanced degree" as if it matters.
No wonder you're in so much pain. Cognitive dissonance probably rules your life.
+1
I want me free edukation
Actually, it's "I wants me free edukation" LOL
you can't have yer edukation if you ain't eats yer meat!
With the cost of college in the US, it is a wonder our youth aren't protesting more...
It pains me to say this but...
They are too stupid to realize the debt shackles are being placed on them at such an early age - indentured servitude. A result of an education system that prides itself on teaching students what to think, not how to think; the product of the indoctrination equation, brought to you by the tax free foundations of America, who care for children more than parents can.
Well said.
Yes, very well said. This is one of the major reasons I home/unschool my children.
see prophecy, self-fulfilling
Let's see...drink beer from a funnel, smoke weed from a four foot bong, and chase as much tail as you can for four...make that five years, while mommy and daddy pay the bill.
Who the fuck is going to protest that?
the ones that can't pay to play obviously.
Why would a riot in the UK have anything to do with EURUSD?
Americans say "its all europe! its all europe" hehehehe :)
As an aside, the building next door to 30 Millbank is the HQ of MI5.
The President of the National Union of Students is doing the rounds of the TV studios to condemn the violence.
Riot vans have also arrived at the HQ of the Liberal Democrats, the other party in the UK coalition.
The revolution will not be televised.
Twitter still working?
Where'd I put that green bandana?
Twitter sucks. Words will never properly capture those precious teotwawki moments, quite so effectively as video.
Tweeters make shit up all the time. Might as well have called it www(.)highschoolgossip(.)bs
UK does not use the Euro.
lol.
In America (under the UC system, at least), students take tuition increases with little complaint.
America, home of the brave.
Asian students aren't into the demonstrating so much. At least not asian-americans.
A Huge Opportunity Cost to Protesting at UC
UC students don't protest a lot because if you are convicted of a crime while a UC student... you can be permanently expelled/dismissed...
And kiss off your Fed financial aid to re-apply to UC or go somewhere else..
The last round of protests, students were beaten, cuffed, arrested, held by county sheriffs and released miles from the campuses... at 12:01am of course... and criminally charged...
Principles of Community, you know...
lol. didn't know this. america is fucking great.
EURUSD is down because of widening bond spreads.
Spreads were almost as wide 4 days ago when the EURUSD was 600 pips higher...
Tyler, sometimes you post such a stupid ideas.. right, now EUR tumbles on riots in UK, then US declares its default on the plunge of Mexican peso?
How constructive of you.
So in your opinion what happens in the UK, and any possible bail out of the UK, will have no bearing whatsoever on the EU?
Tyler, sometimes you post such a stupid ideas.. right, now EUR tumbles on riots in UK, then US declares its default on the plunge of Mexican peso?
At least Tyler is smart enough to fix his double posts...
This reaction has been building up for a few days but the market chose to ignore it. It just came to a head today. It happens in the markets.
I'm sick of the G7 citizenry, nothing is free assholes! Not everything is a right!
So, the youth should be calm and perfectly happy with the direction governments are taking us?
Also, they don't want free education, they just don't want a tuition increase. Big difference.
No, but that's not what they're protesting. The message MATERS!
. . . but at least they're protesting.
Nothing of the sort amongst American students, or young people in general. It's pathetic.
Angry mobs accomplish little more than property destruction and arrests.
Students can vote with their dollars, and go to a two year school. These little replicants would be doing their parents a huge favor, and the banksters a disserivce, by paying far less to learn absolutely nothing.
I'm not so sure, an angry mob in Boston led to the start of a certain war for freedom...
Vote with their dollars and go to a two-year school?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Not as long as employers, stupid as the day is long, keep insisting on a bachelor degree even as they howl with rage at the socialist education establishment and what it's wrought upon us lo these many years.
I agree with your sentiment... but it is not just US students... It is the entire Amerikan public...
Amerikan Idol: Homo Idolus Rectumus Holus
Fired, fraudclosed on, pensions, mutual funds ripped off, political class bribe taking douches, corporate fraud and criminality, Wall Street criminal top to bottom, torture, war crimes, Nazi wars of aggression, police state, Gestapo fascism, arbitrary imprisonment, buffoon security apparatus...
And not one Amerikan over fed clown salesman can drop the remote, put down the beer and hostess Donettes, walk away from Amerikan Idol and do something about it...
"Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt"
I don't know what you are talking about. People who have a clue are dug in and have their supplies---gold, ammo, food, water, seeds, tools and whatever it takes to survive.
The rest moved to Latin America.
i got pomegranite seeds, lots, realized they freeze quite well. also bought pineapple and froze them. pineapples are quite cheap right now.
infidelity, bitch†
Actually, those signs say "Free Educaction Now". I think that means they want "FREE EDUCATION NOW", and not a simple fee freeze. How do you interpret it?
the signs that say "FREE education now" arise from the awareness that their parents generation HAD a free education, and were taught that it was encouraged by the government to BE educated, should folk desire to be. . . it's one of the reasons the majority of British are rather more intelligent than the average amrkn.
it is only in the past couple of decades, since they were born to the parents who were encouraged to become educated FREE of debt, that the UK went amrkn-life-style, with debt being the major feature.
so yes, they are demanding what was available only a generation hence, within the majority of the public's memory - that people "here" believe this to be farcical, to be mocked, just shows how people can be conditioned to do whatever the government desires, given a generation or two. . .
(by the way, it's only been a couple of decades since Britain has had amrkn "fast fud" crap available, and the rise of diabetes, weight gain, etc. is evident)
Have you heard of ZIRP, Mr. Einstein? Or fractional reserve "lending"?
You are right let me revise:
Nothing is free assholes.... unless you are a Primary Dealer. Lol.
I think its reasonable that they expect free education since their taxes are going to bail out Financial institutions and their taxes would also end up paying for free education. If there was more accountability in government and the corporate world with prosecutions I don't think you would see so much protesting.
Everything is free unless you don't know how to discharge debt.
Ok, you've peaked my curiosity with this and earlier posts. Please expound. Would love nothing better than to screw the banksters and use my FRNs for real money. Do go on.
he has, extensively, many times over the past few months.
check the forums, be prepared to think.
(and it's "piqued" - unless your curiousity is pointy.)
It must be the ''Greek disease'' spreading like gangbusters around the world. No worries, the elite will let them eat cake.-)