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Animated Radioactive Fallout Forecast

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Absent further deterioration at the Fukushima plant over the weekend, the next big shoe to drop will be public reaction when the radioactive fallout hits Tokyo (and other major populated areas). And juging by the latest data available from Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) in Austria, Tokyo, which so far has been spared by friendly winds, may get its first dose of radiation by the weekend. Below we present the latest animated color-coded data for both Japan and the world, which extrapolates both fallout strength and direction. As ZAMG explains the fallout is, "currently in a critical region, dominated by a westerly flow. On the ground, the wind is relatively weak. There is no precipitation. Soon the wind will blow from the south-east and intensify. On Sunday rain front will arrive from the southwest to the crisis area and lead to some strong precipitation (radioactive rain). Behind the front, northerly winds are forecast, so the situation for the Tokyo area may again be critical. The dispersion calculations show fallout is now mainly transported to the sea. Currently cloud have a southeast direction, which will change to northeast tomorrow (see illustrations). Subsequently, more areas in Japan will be covered by fallout."

Japan fallout tracker:

Ausbreitung der Wolke von Fukushima/permanente Freisetzung/Jod-131

And more importantly for everyone not in Japan, the global fallout tracker:

Ausbreitung der Wolke von Fukushima/permanente Freisetzung/Cs-137 (globales Bild)

And as the forecast, map cuts off mid day on March 20, this is how the wind pattern will look on that day.

h/t Credit Trader


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Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:22 | 1073464 AN0NYM0US
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oh my

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:27 | 1073477 ZerOhead
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(for once... :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:44 | 1073536 AN0NYM0US
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and the captions to the graphics translated to cat are as follows:

map key

 Iodine-131 (local image)

 Cesium-137 (global image)

'Regarding the colour scaling of the simulation, one needs to keep in mind that the red colour marks areas around the plant where the effective dose rates were, at the absolute maximum, 100 Milli-Sievert per hour (according to information released by IAEA in Vienna). The violet colour thus shows areas with estimated effective dose rates of 100 Nano-Sievert (maximum) per hour.


Summed up over a period of one year, this would still be less than the natural radiation exposure of an average citizen.'



Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:54 | 1073550 ZerOhead
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You once again fail to understand that this party is just starting....

Remember... it was only just declared to be as bad as Three Mile with no containment breaches and no fatalities.


(That said... I certainly hope you are right about this being no big deal! And thanks for the translation... :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:10 | 1073615 george
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OK so what I want to know is why is this still going on? Shouldn't the radioactive material be cooled by now which would make a meltdown very improbable? How long does it take for nuclear reactors to cool?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:17 | 1073649 JohnG
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Fuel rods in water for these reactors cool in ~19 months before they can be reproccessed.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:22 | 1073666 george
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Thanks John.


Are you saying that they are hazardous for 19 months or back to being useful in 19 months?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:33 | 1073691 JohnG
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They are always hazardous.  Just not too hot to handle after cooling.

Someone picked up a story yesterday about three people in a reprocessing plant 70 or so miles from Fukushima that were irradiated while one was sawing a rod.

U-238 is always hazardous.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:40 | 1073715 george
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We'll yeah, I should have quantified my definition of hazordous. You obvously have done a little research on the topic. Based on you"re knowledge, are you pooping your pants (figure of speach) over Japan's current situation? 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:00 | 1073782 JohnG
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I remain calm through the wonders of heavy drinking and xanax.  Shitting my drawers just means I have to buy more.

But yeah, this is bad especially for the Japanese, and could get much worse.  We just don't have reliable information.  If we have exposed cores and if the rods SFP's go critical again, it will get much worse.

Lot's of "ifs" here.  No definitive info and that's what really worries me the most.  These are the types of events that get covered up, and that's not a pun on cement encasement.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:04 | 1073795 george
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Thanks homie.


My thoughts and prayers go out to Japan. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:05 | 1074127 awakened
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Yea, those are my drugs of choice as well, although I was tempted to ask the bartender for a shot of Prussian Blue to go with a green beer chaser last night, or just a little Prussian Blue on the rocks. I decided he wouldn't understand so why bother.

Its too late to get potassium iodine and if it is truly the spent fuel rods that exploded, one needs both potassium iodine and Prussian Blue (Radiogardase) which is prescription only and one will need to be tested first. (And no one will be tested outside of Tepco's 50, or 350 wherever the number ends up.) Potassium iodine only works against radioactive iodine, protecting the thyroid, and Prussian Blue works to shorten the half life of celsium. Not sure what works for strotium and plutonium.

So I am resigned to staying indoors for the next few weeks/months however long this plays out, in spite of the nice weather. Sigh. And I live in the Midwest!

My prayers go out to all the people of Japan, as well as for the protection of my family. The Japanese people did nothing to deserve this. But that is the way it goes most times. hopefully they are getting potassium iodine AND Prussian Blue.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:07 | 1074130 awakened
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dont know what the heck happened there.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 22:09 | 1074235 tip e. canoe
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i'll take my chances with wheatgrass, kelp & a healthy dose of moonshine, but to each his own.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 11:04 | 1075010 mirac
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other helpful stuff...                                                           

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 11:45 | 1075153 tmosley
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Glutathione is indeed an excellent radical scavenger, and helps to fuel your immune system, and after use there, helps to regulate sleep.  It really is a wonder drug.

But don't just take glutathione.  It is destroyed in your stomach, and is really expensive.  Your body synthesizes it naturally.  You need three amino acids to produce it.  The first two are plentiful in practically any diet.  The third, cysteine, often is not.  You can buy N-acetyl cysteine, which is more readily absorbed by the body, in bulk for very little.  If you want to get it from food, I would suggest you eat eggs with your breakfast, as they are rich in cysteine.  The cysteine content of eggs is actually one of the main reasons why they are so good for hangovers.

Honestly, this is a major part of my research, and glutathione really is probably the single most important peptide in the human body that is often in short supply.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 07:26 | 1074822 Bitch Tits
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I believe you mean iodide, not iodine.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:24 | 1073669 Id fight Gandhi
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Even after they got the new extension cord to the complex they still need to run cable to each pump.

Who knows if the pumps Or pipes will work. They could have been damaged from the tsunami, quake or all that saltwater they keep dumping.

Electric equipment doesn't work well when you keep dumping salt water on it.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 20:14 | 1073719 ZerOhead
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Yup. And think pressure seals on the pumps melting...

Background radiation will cause one out of 100 people to die of cancer, said Dr. Donald Bucklin, who spent 10 years as medical director for the Palo Verde nuclear plant in Arizona. More exposure increases risk.

Read more:

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 09:41 | 1074938 LongSoupLine
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Not to mention the potential for electrical fires when you energize a load of damaged equipment and open circuits.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:23 | 1073671 ZerOhead
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Depends on the dispersion of the molten reactor fuel intermixed with the liquified steel of the 20 cm. thick reactor vessel. Once it drops out it will burn downward through stainless steel and the 17 foot thick concrete floor  until it fails to create enough heat (through dilution with concrete and/or what's below) to go any further.

Then it will probably smoulder for months.

But that is just a guess. ;)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:45 | 1073908 minus dog
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"OK so what I want to know is why is this still going on? Shouldn't the radioactive material be cooled by now which would make a meltdown very improbable? How long does it take for nuclear reactors to cool?"


George, I'm assuming you don't understand how nuclear power works.  Any of this fissile material - spent fuel rods, the rods in the reactor itself - heat themselves as a result of how much of their active component is in them, and how close together those active parts are.  The unstable atoms split, release neutrons, and those then trigger other nearby atoms to do the same.  The splitting generates heat, and the heat is used to generate power.

If there aren't enough fissioning atoms, or they're too far apart, or there is a moderating material present that absorbs neutrons (like control rods), then it'll eventually fizzle out.  If there is a LOT of fissioning atoms very close together you get a mess; if you shove enough of them together fast enough you get an atomic explosion (not happening in most reactors - in fact not even close - but it's one end of the spectrum of possibilities).

It takes a balancing act to keep the fuel rods in the reactor hot enough to produce power but not to melt or have other problems.  In a lot of older designs you need constant cooling to keep things from getting out of hand - even with the "spent" fuel rods still have a lot of fissile material in them.  It takes an active effort to cool the reactor - it won't happen on it's own unless the reactor melts down entirely and the molten fuel spreads out (example, Chernobyl).  Toss in an earthquake and a tsunami, knock out your cooling equipment and wash away the backup equipment, and this is the mess you get.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:12 | 1073620 AN0NYM0US
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and the bet will be?


Let's pick up on your theme of things just getting started: How about a measurment that  the ratio of Nuke posts to non Nuke articles on ZH will be less than x% (excluding George and other contributors) beginning Monday March 28 through Friday April 1. You seem like a fair cat so you can set the percentage.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:18 | 1073652 fuu
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I'll bite. 5% nuke posts 95% other posts.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:36 | 1073699 ZerOhead
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Well considering I'm up 1 to ZerO on you already (burning spent fuel issue) let me set the parameters of the bet.

Since the average attention span of an American/European is on the order of twenty seconds... I suspect issue fatigue will have long since set in by then. Your bet therefore was loaded in your favor through simple human psychology.

Let's try this then...

A minimum of half of the urban area of Tokyo (35MM pop.) will either self evacuate or be forced to evacuate by April 1st.

I don't think I have to tell  you what that will do to Japanese/Global GDP do I?


(Let me check out wind direction probabilities for Tokyo first... checking checking... )

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:59 | 1073777 ZerOhead
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Extremely low odds of a direct hit on Tokyo unless an anti-cyclonic (storm) cell moves through. Still I'll take the bet based on the level to which this disaster will rise.

If Chernobyl was a 7 then by then this will be a 7.... perhaps even a newly created 9? 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:07 | 1073778 AN0NYM0US
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 getting the straight goods from that IAEA event scale seems a bit elusive

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:07 | 1073800 MsCreant
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I like the kitty, but that is some funny shit you did there:


You are really creative. Hope you're on my side in a war.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:02 | 1073642 AN0NYM0US
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I don't know what others think but in my view ZerOhead is one of the best contributors here.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:08 | 1073802 ZerOhead
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I agree with you... discussing issues of substance are what this site should be about... and your eyesight is a heck of a lot better than mine.

No junks from me on this one...

The bet will be for a new avatar for one of us for a period of oh... let's say a month.

How about this one...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:13 | 1073810 ZerOhead
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You have miraculous time posting abilities ANONYMOUS

I keep running across posters who can change their prior posts after I respond.


What the fuck is going on here?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:15 | 1073815 AN0NYM0US
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I just posted but MsC locked me out

how about this - if it's still a big deal by April Fools day with radiation leaking all over the place, newsworthy concerns about nuke leftovers hitting the west coast and fires burning or similar etc... then you're right and I'm wrong. 

if I lose I'll take the bag off my head for a week - (msC has seen a partial reveal in the past)  if you lose you have to be polite (to everybody) for a week- It would be too cruel to ask  you to change your avatar


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:18 | 1073827 ColonelCooper
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Hey if you guys don't use the avatar, can I have it?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:20 | 1073836 ZerOhead
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I was saving it for someone special but heck... go ahead! :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:32 | 1073870 ColonelCooper
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Some days after I've had a couple too many martinis, it would be quite appropriate.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:19 | 1073833 ZerOhead
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So exactly HOW do you manage to change your posts after they were made and locked in by my reply?

People junked you because you asked why you were junked for providing information which is why I responded as I did.

No more games ANONYMOUS... what the fuck gives?


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:28 | 1073862 AN0NYM0US
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Quick, does anyone here have some extra lithium?  it would be prefurrred if it's mixed in with some Iams

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:48 | 1073921 ZerOhead
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Too funny... tooooo funny.

Besides... I'm more of a Nine-Lives w qualudes kinda Cat! :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:35 | 1073878 MsCreant
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I saw when it was posted the other way, (it had 4 junks) and the changed way. I did not post there in case he wanted to change it again. It was already changed before you posted because I made the choice to post my observation where I did instead. If he was going to keep playing who am I to get in the way of a gentlecat and gentlebag's good fun.

He did not change that one after you posted. I hope this helps.

Hope you are doing well. The avatar you propose is a scream. Remember Asshat? That was a pretty good one too.

ANON's strip tease is pretty good.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:44 | 1073911 ZerOhead
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Thanks MsCreant... it certainly does help. I'm a skittish creature when it comes to paranormal activity on this site.

Apologies to ANONYMOUS as well. I do love to joust with him so... :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 22:05 | 1074231 Wannabee
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I've read your post 3 times and still don't understand what you said. 

Having flash backs of this_

(posted many times before I know)

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 00:46 | 1074478 TruthInSunshine
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Just found this but Google has taken it down, so here's the cache and reprint:



Google cache of story - since taken down.

References Zero Hedge.

No cover up. Suuuuure.


By Miriam Raftery
March 16, 2011 (San Diego) 12:30 a.m. -- A radiation map on the U.S. Environmental Protection Service shows radiation levels at measuring stations across the United States.  There is a disturbing pattern showing gamma radiation levels along the West Coast, Alaska and Hawaii at two to ten times levels on the East Coast, with midwest states in mid-ranges:

 The EPA radiation site ( has a database but does not appear to list what units this map is measured in, so it is difficult to assess whether these levels should be of concern. However it's clear from the map that levels are highest in all West Coast states, Hawaii, Alaska, Arizona and  Nevada, all with measures in the 900s, tapering off as you move eastward, with measurements on the East Coast ranging from around 100 to 400. 
The map displays gamma radiation.  The site states that gamma radiation is only measured when beta radiation is found to exceed normal levels
Gamma radiation is the type of radiation being spewed forth from at least four failed Japanese nuclear reactors, including two where authorities have indicated the core has been breached, plus a spent fuel rod pond where radiation was released directly into the atmosphere.  In low levels, gamma rays can cause nausea and other effects.  In high levels, it can cause more serious health effects both short and long term, including cancer and birth defects.
East County Magazine will be contacting the EPA when their office opens for an explanation on the measurements.  Earlier today, the EPA issued a statement indicating it will deploy more electronic monitors that measure radiatiolevels in the air. The monitors, which detect gamma radiation and radioactive particles, will be set up in "parts of the Western U.S. and U.S. territories," the agency said in a statement.
EPA officials, however, refused to answer questions or make staff members available to explain the exact location and number of monitors, or the levels of radiation, if any, being recorded at existing monitors in California, the San Jose Mercury-News reports. Margot Perez-Sullivan at the EPA's regional headquarters in San Francisco, said the agency's written statement would stand on its own.
Critics said the public needs more information.
"It's disappointing," said Bill Magavern, director of Sierra Club California. "I have a strong suspicion that EPA is being silenced by those in the federal government who don't want anything to stand in the way of a nuclear power expansion in this country, heavily subsidized by taxpayer money."
The EPA has 124 air monitors, which provide hourly readings, already in place in its "Rad-Net" system to measure radiation, including 12 in California and two in Hawaii. California locations include San Jose, Sacramento, Fresno, Los Angeles and San Diego; however the San Diego monitor is listed as "inactive" on another EPA database. The EPA also has 40 mobile monitors, some of which are now being deployed. The agency clarified that some would go to Guam, Hawaii and Alaska, but did not respond to questions about California, the Mercury-News said.
"As the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has said, we do not expect to see radiation at harmful levels reaching the U.S. from damaged Japanese nuclear power plants," the EPA statement yesterday stated.
Government regulatory agencies and nuclear experts have repeatedly said that high levels of radiation are unlikely to hit California in significant quantities because Japan is 5,000 miles away. However, studies from the California Air Resources Board have found that coal dust and other pollution from China regularly reaches the state.
Most experts said that if the Japanese reactors experience a complete Chernobyl-type explosion, fire and release of nuclear material, some could reach California, but "probably in very low amounts," the Mercury- News reports.
The Japanese government now has a website with radiation readings there posted online, however Fukushima and certain other locations are listed as "under survey" and have not been releaesd.  You can view the current data here:
There is an analysis and screenshots of the Japanese data here that indicates gamma radiation levels were extremely high 100 miles or so from the explosions and fires at the Fukushima nuclear reactors. The website Zero Hedge analysis concludes that "the data is stunning: based on a N, NE and NNE wind direction (where it originates), meaning all coming from Fukushima, with a normal reading in the 80 nGy/h range, the city of Kounosu Naka is at 3,024, Kadobe Naka is at 2,416, Isobe Hitachioota is at 1,213 and many others are in the mid to upper triple digit range! Again, this is based on wind coming out of Fukushima and ultimately headed toward the capital. Indicatively, normal terrestrial plus cosmic gamma radiation is about 80 nGy/h."  See  
ECM cautions that we do not know whether these sites are using comparable measurements to the EPA site or not, nor even whether West Coast gamma measurements are customarily comparable to East Coast measurements or not, nor whether the higher levels on this map are due to the ongoing nuclear crisis in Japan.  However we believe in giving the public all information available.   We will be seeking expert comments at the earliest opportunity.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:03 | 1073592 I am more equal...
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Oh yes.....

Love that whip action.... straight out of hell.  Satan's whip!  Going to torment the world.


One question about saturation;  sure it disperses but won't even the area of dispersion accumulate dangerous amount... moving on... once dangerous levels are achieved in the dispesion areas won't it disperse even more. repeat and rinse.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:24 | 1073470 Cleanclog
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Living near the coast in California, purple is my new favorite color.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:28 | 1073479 AldoHux_IV
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Sweet, looks like instead of just exporting inflation, we can now expect exported nuclear radiation.  Fucking Tepco.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:28 | 1073483 css1971
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So, does KI now cost more per ounce than Gold?


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:30 | 1073489 Lord Welligton
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What are the odds on every Geiger Counter in Tokyo malfunctioning in the next three days.


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:37 | 1073491 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Have to wonder where is the realtime radiation being promised by the EPA???  How hard is it to dump the raw data to a webserver.  They've had a week to connect the data in the CDX to a website portal for the public...

This article says radiation data will be sent to the EPA and published online:

"The radiation stations will send real time data via satellite to EPA officials, who will make the data available to the public online."

"Federal officials monitor radiation levels around the clock"

Phew, I feel safer now.

"The EPA is hoping a transparent view of its radiation collection system will ease unwarranted panic."

If Obama and the US Gov. is so cocky confident that 'all is well' then open up the EPA RADNET monitoring site data and let the public see the what the radnet is recording. 

EPA's entire RADNET network brings you this critical update regarding US exposure:

Closest thing possible for real time radiation data in the US since the EPA apparently waits 2-3 years to publish anything.  (NOT RADNET) Private data:

EPA's RADNET's rich history of radiation monitoring publishing:

Published RADNET data, last time 2009?


Where are the RADNET monitoring sites?

Sacremento detection:

How to access EPA RadNet Data primer:

EPA CDX (Central Data Exchange) used for accessing RADNET data:

EPA CDX Login page.

US streaming Radiation monitors (private, non RADNET):

Decent thread on with photos of radiation counters in US (multi-page, see later pages):
Unlike the US, In Japan - you can get realtime data (assuming it's accurate):
realtime readings from Japan's radiological monitoring network

Excellent monitoring charting from last week:

CTBTO radiation monitoring network - but no reporting?:

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:50 | 1073558 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Excellent!  When was this put up?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:49 | 1073562 ColonelCooper
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I just found it about a half hour ago.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:17 | 1073634 ZerOhead
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Update at EPA RadNet

March 18, 2011: As of 12:00 pm (EDT) EPA's RadNet radiation air monitors across the US showed typical fluctuations in background radiation levels. The levels detected are far below levels of concern.

P.S. Do not use for radiation updates. Their information is extremely unreliable and the network is a subsidiary of Al Qaeda.

Thank you and have a radiation free day. :)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:39 | 1073709 ColonelCooper
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Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:31 | 1073869 ZerOhead
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You're fast becoming my favorite First Responder!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:32 | 1073875 ColonelCooper
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Better hope you don't need mouth to mouth, cause I ain't no Opus.

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 14:50 | 1075945 GoinFawr
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More of a Steve Dallas?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:56 | 1073577 snowball777
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Exactly. OP is a retard.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:20 | 1074158 rookie
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I can't get into this link... do you have another link?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:22 | 1074164 ColonelCooper
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I just tried it from my post, it's working.  I think I got in there from the home page of

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 06:57 | 1074809 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Not working today - getting "Please be patient while we get back with the data you requested. "

cover-up theories in 3.. 2..

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:57 | 1073580 TheMerryPrankster
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You do realize they can post fake readings to placate and calm the public. Just because the data is posted publicly does not mean truth and knowledge, as we have seen with the transparency of the Obama administration, often the guise of truth is used merely as a tool of manipulation.


Unless you have a calibrated dosimeter, you'll just have to beleive in the powers that be and the truth they spin and control you with.  If you are in the U.S. mainlands or Europe you should be okay even if the shit hits the fan, China, Korea and Russia are at the mercies of the winds.


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:04 | 1073598 ColonelCooper
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I don't believe anything anybody else tells me, and only about half of what I tell myself.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:25 | 1073850 skunzie
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Definitely one of the best quotes I've read in a VERY long time.  Sounds like something Will Rogers would have come up with!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:38 | 1073888 ColonelCooper
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I robbed it from an old foreman of mine.  I don't know where it originated from, but that guy had/has some dandies.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:52 | 1073953 ZerOhead
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Variation of "Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see."

Appropriate words all the same especially for schizophrenic cats!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 22:13 | 1074242 Wannabee
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Colonel -

Many years ago when I was younger and trying to jam a square peg into a round hole (metaphorically speaking of course). I had a wise old friend tell me "if the jobs hard, your'e probably doing it wrong". Wise indeed.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:31 | 1073493 prophet
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Yes, the coincident step up in cyber activity is real.

two factor hack?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:33 | 1073500 GeneMarchbanks
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Radioactive rain, just like Chernobyl. The fallout tracker is cartoonish, another attempt by humans to control nature. Now that the fallout(which nobody predicted the event) is here, we know the course it will take.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:30 | 1073502 InconvenientCou...
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it appears they expect the source to intensify. I can only hope this is a conservative model. I wouldn't bet a single USD on it though.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:37 | 1073524 cossack55
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So, you wish to risk NOTHING?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:45 | 1073541 MsCreant
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Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:08 | 1074131 Nobody special
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less than nothing

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:33 | 1073505 boeing747
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So we Californian can not make baby in next 300 years?

China just turned back a cargo airplane from Japan carrying freights with higher than normal radiation.

So the scales of contamination are far more larger than .gov would like to admint.


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:02 | 1073591 Idiot Savant
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Ok, this is the part I need help understanding. Once an object or person is irradiated, they can carry the radiation and irradiate other people/objects? For how long is said object/individual radioactive? How serious of an issue will this be for cargo, planes and ships?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:43 | 1073732 JohnG
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A person radioactive enough to irradiate other people would be dead from radiation.

Radioactive substances have half-lives (Cesium - 300 years), so half goes in 300, half more in 300 more, etc.

Onject radioactive until the radioactivr substance is removed.

Can be very serious for planes, but we just don't know how bad the radiation is away from the plant.  Unreliable information.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:52 | 1073754 nonclaim
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Contamination with radioactive particles on skin and hard surfaces can be mostly washed away with soap and water, preferably with boric acid mixed in. Clothes, shoes and everything else difficult to wash clean must be disposed of.

The more contaminated surfaces around you the more irradiation you get and the cumulative result may be damaging. That's why you get checkpoints with showers, to avoid spreading contamination.

If you ingest or breath in the particles, then you will get a permanent source of irradiation and, if a gamma ray source, may need to be separated from others. Sadly not for long.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:09 | 1073611 bob_dabolina
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So we Californian can not make baby in next 300 years?

Please don't.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:38 | 1073714 blunderdog
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Yep.  Everyone in Asia was rendered sterile by radioactive radiation in '45 from our nukes.  Then it happened again in '86 with the Chernoblythe-masters disaster.

That's why the population of Asia is so much more lower than the other continents, and why everyone there is dying of radioactive radiation cancer.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:34 | 1073509 Dr. Porkchop
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The first one looks like an unmanned firehose on full blast.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:47 | 1073547 MsCreant
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My husband, taking a leak at night.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:15 | 1073632 spdrdr
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Yes, and we all know how he got to be "unmanned".......

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:32 | 1073689 MsCreant
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Why don't you spell it out? This should be good.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:40 | 1073722 spdrdr
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U.  N.  M.  A.  N.  N.  E.  D.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:57 | 1073768 falak pema
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hey you can do better than that. The lady said spell it out not spill it out.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:34 | 1074174 spdrdr
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It was only a pun upon Dr Porkchop's "unmanned" commentary.  I would have thought that obvious.

Putting it bluntly (and crudely), when Dr Porkchop's reference to an "unmanned" firehose was compared by MsCreant to her husband's nocturnal urination habits, I (being an admittedly sick-minded individual) immediately leapt to the conclusion that MsCreant was describing the wide and undirected spray of urine produced by her husband, in a pattern similar to that displayed by the moving graphic above.

The pun (which is defined as a "play upon words") was with respect to the natural consequences of such an undirected firehose being released, i.e. a competely pissed-off spouse, which in itself may have led to a Lorena Bobbit scenario, whereby MrCreant may well have been emasculated, or "unmanned".

I apologise - it was an obvious pun for a punster such as myself, and I did not intend harm to any innocent children or animals.

Peace out, spdrdr.


Sat, 03/19/2011 - 02:24 | 1074630 MsCreant
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I live with two of them, son and hubby. Once in a blue moon, based on occasional results, the animated graphic above does seem to track their nocturnal habits (at least this is what my imagination says happens).

Some assets, however, you just don't part with if you know what I'm saying!! You don't sell your gold and silver, and...

Peace out indeed! Mr. Creant would howl with laughter. I will probably share this post with him.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:34 | 1073513 A Man without Q...
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The divine wind saved Japan from the Mongols in 1274, let's just hope it saves them again this time.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:37 | 1073703 falak pema
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Where was marco polo in 1274? Was he already in the forbidden city?


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 20:14 | 1074020 TheMerryPrankster
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he was MIA by 1247. I have an old family heirloom milk carton with a very nice etching of his likeness along with some sort of latin script that roughly translates to "have you seen this person? Last seen going out for a walk August 3rd in our year of the lord 1246."

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:36 | 1073514 tmosley
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Funny, it looks just like a flame-thrower.  Don't piss flame into the wind.  It won't end well for you.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:37 | 1073520 prophet
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From the pdf on the ZAMG site:

"Regarding the colour scaling of the simulation, one needs to keep in mind that the red colour marks areas around the plant where the effective dose rates were, at the absolute maximum, 100 Milli-Sievert per hour (according to information released by IAEA in Vienna). The violet colour thus shows areas with estimated effective dose rates of 100 Nano-Sievert (maximum) per hour. Summed up over a period of one year, this would still be less than the natural radiation exposure of an average citizen."

The red don't sound so good.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:40 | 1073528 cossack55
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Reds are always causing problems.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:15 | 1073635 duo
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Looks like the red makes it to the northern suburbs of Saitama Pref., and Narita airport.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:39 | 1073526 hedgeless_horseman
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So this is what a butterfly flapping its wings in a forest in Asia looks like.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:38 | 1073527 Ruffcut
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No worries, quit the fearmongering.

Only if you cough up blood, should you be concerned.


Oh, my balls are itchy. Is that normal?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:41 | 1073532 kengland
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That would be abnormal. Remember, you had no balls prior to reactor 3 poping

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:06 | 1073601 Seer
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Ah!  Now This is why I come here! :-)  Thanks for a couple of great chuckles!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:40 | 1073530 Milton Waddams
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"We can spin this image. From now on it is to be referred to as 'A sign of hope emerges in beleaguered Japan as a rainbow forms over their sky.'"

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:50 | 1073561 MsCreant
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Let the unicorns spray their joy, everywhere.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:04 | 1073792 JohnG
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That's pretty damn gross right there, almost made me puke.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:47 | 1073746 NumberNone
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I prefer to think of it as our way of teaching that son a bitch Pacific Ocean a lesson.  You send a tsunami, we send a radioactive cloud.  Take that mo-fo. 

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:41 | 1073531 RobD
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Sunday looks bad. If I lived in Tokyo I think I might want to take a little trip south...and keep going.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:02 | 1073589 prophet
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... me grow big cauliflower for you

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:43 | 1073534 Long-John-Silver
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Buy Uranium stock during this BFD. Shutting nuclear power down is not an option, especially with Obama driving oil, coal, and natural gas out of business in the USA.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:08 | 1073607 Seer
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"Obama driving oil, coal, and natural gas out of business in the USA."

Are you really that stupid?  Oh fucking never mind!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:16 | 1073645 Long-John-Silver
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Obama: I’ll make energy prices “skyrocket”

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:34 | 1073695 RockyRacoon
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From a website "hotair".  Yep.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:45 | 1073741 Seer
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It amazes me how people can simultaneously believe that the govt is totally incompetent on one hand AND on the other is able to master-mind vast conspiracies!

NOTE: I do not discount conspiracies, the US govt, as have all governments, pulled off such actions (for the US the Manhattan Project is sufficient to debunk the anti-conspiracy debunkers).  But... in this case, nothing makes any sense since the controlling powers want stability (enough to rule the media wars- hint: people need to recognize when they're being played as pawns), killing a primary system that serves control is NOT something that's going to happen, despite everyone's distaste for Al Gore (did he ever speak out against Nukes?  nope; had the opportunity to do so in An Inconvenient Truth but did not- why?)

Fucking tools... come on evolution!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:59 | 1073779 falak pema
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a bit like Nero and Nero's wife...

Sat, 03/19/2011 - 06:38 | 1074440 i-dog
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"since the controlling powers want stability "

Au contraire! "Order Out of Chaos", remember?

The game plan (as I see it) is for them to foment disarray and chaos at every opportunity (not just in the ME and NA) until the population is so exhausted from all the infighting and civil insurrections in their quest for jobs and food that they cry out for a strong hand to clamp down on all the chaos. Then the FEMA camps will be filled to overflowing with all those who question the sincerity of the glorious government ... in the interests of "national security", of course. Checkmate.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 20:11 | 1074016 samsara
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Ya,  Tell'em about the Bakkens in the dakotas again Long John and how the 20,000 bpd will save our ass.   And all those wells in the US that they capped while being able to produce millions (Millions I tell ya)  of barrels per day.


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:31 | 1074183 Nobody special
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My god what are people smoking here?  BTFD in Uranium?!?  Basic lessons people... if you don't hold it you don't own it!  Oil, gas, gold, and silver are much better bets.  At least we can take possession.  And it doesn't matter if there are 20,000bpd in the US or 200,000bpd.  Fact is that the oil price is going up, up, up.  Want a FD?  Oil is a FD right now.  It's worth a whole lot more than it's weight in paper.  Unfortunately, the closest you'll ever want to get to owning Uranium is holding paper, so it's no better than fiat.

It is well documented that the US is sitting on a wealth of oil.  Far more than most here can imagine, and they won't let it out quickly and they sure as 'ell won't tell anyone.  Why would they?  The point of holding is to be the only supplier - to sell 'last drops' for outrageous sums while constraining supply, or to simply not sell at all.  If OPEC can be embroiled in war, US oil will be VERY valuable, and the US goobermint will have the bulk of power again.  I suspect this is the plan and that it's unfolding exactly as intended. Too bad the little people won't be able to afford oil.

If you value energy, find a sustainable source now.  Oil is a US power ploy and you won't want to be on the wrong side of it.  Poor little people.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:55 | 1073543 Rainman
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Well if its a comin it might as well hit CALI now. I'll be hunkered in my man-cave for days watching to see if my bracket works out. Must remember to call bookie to deliver iodide or no payday for him.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:00 | 1073585 snowball777
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Combine the two: I have Pahrump and Barstow in my 'final four'. ;)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:13 | 1073814 Dr. Porkchop
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Hey, at least some people in Cali probably have those undergrown bunkers leftover from the coldwar paranoia.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:47 | 1073546 ss123
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Watch the very end, right before it cuts off.

The big swath is wrapping back around.

 ALL OF JAPAN is going to get fallout.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:01 | 1073787 maximin thrax
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It certainly does look that way.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:48 | 1073551 Temujin
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It's ironic how a nation who had suffered from 2 atomic bombs would allow themselves to hurt their own people with radiation.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:52 | 1073564 MsCreant
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It's ironic how a nation who has dropped 2 atomic bombs would allow themselves to hurt their own people with radiation.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:36 | 1073622 Seer
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But, but... WE (US) WON WWII!!!  Hm... must be because of Obama, yes, he's a socialist puke, who wasn't born in the USA, I'm sure that there's a plan afoot to ban unicorns or something...

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:39 | 1073712 Seer
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Why look, some child's running around sparying graffitti, er, a, junking.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:27 | 1073857 Seer
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Psst!  You junkers (losers), your unicorns are SAFE!  You can ease up on all the clicking! (or, you can go back to texting to the stars or whatever passes for meaningful vote-casting in your feable minds)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:58 | 1073582 prophet
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Its moronic that any nation would allow its people to hurt each other since protection against that is a nation's primary purpose.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:52 | 1073566 Boilermaker
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Where is the resident climatologist and nuclear physics guru, Trav7777, to confirm this?

Otherwise, this don't mean shit.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:16 | 1073638 trav7777
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Did you get a refund yet on your internet forensics degree from DeVry?

I'm not claiming to predict the weather here.  I am predicting that 96% of the fallout will fall directly on your head, because that's what the NWO wants.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:53 | 1073757 Seer
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If not for you Trav I'd lose my sanity here!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:24 | 1073843 Seer
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Junked for this?  There goes that anti-Al-Gore child running around again!  Fer christ sakes child, get over it!  I detest all politicians (it's idiots like you who insist on repeatedly installing these fuckers).  Go whack off to a picture of John McCain!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:46 | 1073936 Boilermaker
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Oh, Trav "I read Popular Mechanics which is the same as having a graduate degree"

I would call you a bag of shit but I don't want to insult bags of shit.

But, hey, if you want to play fantasy Engineer here...go for it.  There's enough people here to dupe to keep your little gig going.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:53 | 1073572 romanko
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Hey Tyler, how are your uranium shorts doing?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:08 | 1073612 taraxias
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How's your finger up your ass doing?


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 17:58 | 1073579 snowball777
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Don't worry ACC deniers, these are the same software simulations you discount in other contexts, so you can still deny the nature of the liquids leaking out of your anuses and claim that your hair falling out is a propecia deficiency.


Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:06 | 1073602 victor82
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Excuse me, but Al Gore just oozed right out of my rectum.

Any advice?

Iodine Pills?

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:12 | 1073628 Seer
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For cripes sakes man, I don't want to hear about your sexual activities!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:55 | 1073961 snowball777
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Use less lube and be more discerning about your partners.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:07 | 1073606 thedrickster
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You mean AGW?

I don't do branding, I am completely impervious to all forms of advertising.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:12 | 1073626 Long-John-Silver
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 Wow, you can't even keep your scam acronyms correct.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:44 | 1073726 Missing_Link
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Nonsense.  They're entirely different software simulations.

This is a simple fluid dynamics simulation.  You could run this on a pocket calculator.

AGW relies on "simulations" involving hundreds of variables, of which no one truly understands the interaction or even what variables should actually be modeled, and is and therefore consists of a fairly arbitrary model of an arbitrary (grossly incomplete) subset of the relevant variables, based on extremely imperfect information and plenty of unknowables (future solar activity, for example)  ...  which are then modeled at a ridiculously coarse resolution over a time frame (decades, centuries) orders of magnitude beyond what the simulation is capable of modeling with any degree of accuracy.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:56 | 1073970 snowball777
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Your "pocket calculator" must have a lot more memory than mine; the pressure gradient grids alone wouldn't fit in my HP48. ;)

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:01 | 1073587 Missing_Link
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Craziness  ...

Don't Poop, Nuclear Boy!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:13 | 1073614 TheMerryPrankster
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You know if Focardi and Rossi pull off their 1megawatt nickel/hydrogen power system in October, they could really be a tremendous game changer. With the Japanese reactor problems in everyone forethoughts, a cleaner safer type of nuclear energy could be quickly adopted.

Here's some info from the Washington Times (not really a favored new source, but the corporate press has basically ignored this story)


Just as Japan’s earthquake raises fears of catastrophe from a nuclear meltdown and Mideast turmoil jeopardizes the world’s supply of conventional energy, along comes word of a possible scientific breakthrough that holds out the hope of cheap, abundant power. Cold fusion - discredited and vilified in the past - is back in the news. The potential benefits are great enough that, despite past failures, the technology deserves a fair hearing from the scientific community this time.

In January, two Italian scientists announced they had invented a reactor that fuses nickel and hydrogen nuclei at room temperature, producing copper and throwing off massive amounts of energy in the process. Sergio Focardi and Andrea Rossi demonstrated their tabletop device before a standing-room-only crowd in Bologna, purportedly using 400 watts of power to generate 12,400 watts with no hazardous waste. They told observers that their reactors, small enough to fit in a household closet are able to produce electricity for less than 1 cent per kilowatt hour.'

for the entire article, worth a read or google "Focardi nickel"

If this is real and these bad boys ever go public they will make Carlos Slim look like a pauper.




Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:15 | 1073637 Seer
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Does this mean that I'll finally get a flying car?

Can't wait for the common person to be running around with infinite amounts of power!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:20 | 1073658 TheMerryPrankster
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Yes and a flying garage.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:33 | 1073693 Seer
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Just the very thought, I mean, all mine!  I can go anywhere, fly with unicorns and eat skittles, then park in my OWN garage! (now I'm garage-less, yes, please feel free to send me money so that I'm no longer destitute; I really need some place to park my tractor too [ugh, I'm tired of staring at a blue tarp- that's cruel and inhumane!])

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:18 | 1073829 Dr. Porkchop
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When I was 12, I thought we'd all have hover cars by now. Since then I've realized that 90% of people can't drive worth shit, so it's probably good that we don't have them. There would be thousands of drunken 9/11s on a weekly basis.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:33 | 1073872 Seer
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No shit!  I mean, I'd have to seek out a fallout shelter, people can't drive in two dimensions, in three my house would be a target! (right now you'd have to really screw up to hit my house from a road).

I think that if it doesn't already exist that there'd be an insurance company conspiracy to keep these things from surfacing!  Talk about a nightmare!

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 21:11 | 1074136 Piranhanoia
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They would be bumper cars that only go as fast as George Jetson in a traffic jam. A drunk in a bumper car would be fun to make throw up.

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 18:50 | 1073755 JohnG
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It's not real, the "scientists" admitted it.



Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:21 | 1073837 Reptil
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It might be real, your conclusion it's not, is premature.

They can't get a patent application, nor publish in a scientific journal.

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it." Max Planck

If we catch up with TEMCO, that may be soon. :-/

Fri, 03/18/2011 - 19:42 | 1073891 Seer
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Yeah, I dream of unicorns too, but during my waking hours I operate with a sense of reality.

Energy is just part of the equation.  But know this, energy is how the ruling classe rules.

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