Another Goldman SNAFU: GS Upgrades The Stock Of Erste Bank, Even As It Is The Lead Underwriter Of An "In Progress" Rights Offering

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cougar_w's picture

Put a sock in it. They're doing God's work.

Hey, are you one of those heretical types? Better not be.

Anonymous's picture

I see you've chosen to cast the first stone, are you too without sin?

cougar_w's picture

When GS hands out $20B in bonuses at their lavish let-them-eat-cake Christmas party, you tell me that isn't their just reward for all that elemental piety they show all year long. That and all the sacrifices. Don't forget how they sacrifice. You sacrifice like that and they give you $20B, I mean you take the money as an act of humility, on bent knee, singing praises.


Man. It loses something when you have to turn on the sarcasm light.


lukahnli's picture

They are indeed doing God's Work, here is proof!

See?  So Goldman Sachs actually cares about......stuff.  Look how much money they give away.

"The list of trades is more than 200 pages, single spaced. Goldman, it seems, invests like no other, even for its own charity."

"Given the firm’s anticipated profits and supersize bonuses, which have touched off public furor, it is no surprise that Goldman said recently it would increase its charitable giving. It has set aside $200 million to nearly double the size of its main foundation."

"Goldman has looked for other ways to encourage giving. After Mr. Whitehead challenged the firm to do more, it created a donor-advised fund that it hoped would reach $1 billion over a few years. The fund allows the firm’s 400 partners to put aside money for the charities of their choice. The donor receives a taxable deduction when making the contribution, though he can choose the recipients later and give the money away over time."


What outstanding Journalism....

Anonymous's picture

LOL I just clicked the comments to say the same thing.

Over in one.

Careless Whisper's picture

a free zero t-shirt to the first person who can find a hospital named after a goldmansach ceo. anyone? anyone?


Careless Whisper's picture

come on it can't be that hard, they are "a force for good". anyone? anyone?

look at the competition -- "Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital"



economessed's picture

Laws apply only to people and organizations who are not wealthy enough to have them changed or ignored.

chet's picture

I wonder how anyone at the SEC has any self respect left.  I imagine a bunch of mealy-mouthed little men in bow-ties who get beat up by their wives.

Must be tough to look in a mirror.

Anonymous's picture

What is the SEC suppose to do exactly?

Goldman didnt violate any US securities laws. Rule 144A allows you to avoid the gun jumping rules under Section 5 because the sale goes to QIB's that have at least 100m under management.

Annnd this is being offered on a foreign exchange I assume, so unless the Erste Bank is trading somewhere in the United States they are covered by that as well...

This seems like a dick move but...perfectly legal...

Anonymous's picture

A novel approach to pump and dump. Pretty cool. GS has all the bases covered: they control the offering, the price-setting mechanism and even the price setting itself. The Lord apparently giveth to Goldman but never taketh away.

Anonymous's picture

Pump and Dump is right. The underwriting fees aren't even enough to pay for a group junket to enjoy boy love at Phuket; the real money is in soaking the stupid Europeans on the pump and dump.

koaj's picture

damn you blasphemer

Anonymous's picture

It must be encouraging, upon attaining a sufficient level of political connectivity, to have one's perversions officially sanctioned, or, is that 'blessed'.

Leadership. Morals. What's my cut?

cougar_w's picture

[what's my cut] You are allowed to self-flagellate 100 lashes, and declare Bk. Please enjoy your reward for not being as politicaly connected.

Anonymous's picture

Well, maybe is usefull for you to know about an interesting cosmetisation: Erste transfers Romanian Commercial Bank(the largest Romanian bank) to an austrian ltd. Probably, the move was necessary in order to minimise the capital requirements. More info you can find here:

Anonymous's picture

Well, maybe is usefull for you to know about an interesting cosmetisation: Erste transfers Romanian Commercial Bank(the largest Romanian bank) to an austrian ltd. Probably, the move was necessary in order to minimise the capital requirements. More info you can find here:

Steak's picture

Gee, upgrading something because one has the capacity to pull levers that make it go higher, even if those machinations are a part of a broader ponzi economy...where have I heard this one before?

“Profit and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good deal,” Mr. Obama said, “if you’ve got a long-term perspective on it.”  3-3-2009 

See if the President does it, its not a crime.  So why on earth would the SEC investigate/prosecute Goldman for doing the same thing?

The moral of the story is that GS is not a criminal enterprise committing crimes, that would suggest our society is oriented against such things.  No, GS is just another cog in our broader Kleptocracy where the President is leading by example.

Racer's picture

Godman Suckers going to get 100% success rate trading this month you think?

Anonymous's picture

Without ZH and Taylor, I would have mistaken GS with GOD.
Typically, Institutions in India stop covering a stock if they involved in any activities with stock.

Anonymous's picture

I do hope they find themselves smote. In a purely biblical sense, obviously.

Anonymous's picture it is....

Just what is the REAL issue....?

Offering effective and possible alternatives
to the current status quo....

So the question is....if one could wave a majic wand....

exactly what would one do to correct what is wrong

with the current system....and just how does "todays" system

compare and contrast to that of the recent past ?


Open invitation....

Exactly brick by brick ....what would one do ?

deadhead's picture

I'm sure this type of story and research has already been covered thoroughly by America's trusted business news source at General Electric.  I don't mean to be rude TD, but did you pilfer some of their typical, common, ordinary, and everyday run of the mill reporting of this nature?  I'm sure that I must have seen it posted on their website already.....

Like I've said from day one, I only ask for an invite to the Pulitzer ceremony so I can watch you phucks accept the prize with those groucho marx mustachioed fake glasses on.


cougar_w's picture

[groucho marx mustachioed fake glasses]

You think, but by then everyone will be wearing 'em.

Anonymous's picture

10 to one they will short the stock sometime soon.

Anonymous's picture

and so whats the news here? GS and Obama cronies feed on these kind of theiveries on a daily basis...

American people CHOOSE their leader, corrupt/numb/souless/iodets people electing their look alike....SPY to 10000....1 Peso = 100000000000000000000 Dollar.....Do not make the fence cos its gonna be road to south very soon...

Anonymous's picture

doing God's work over at the squid.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

They don't even bother to try and hide it anymore.

For national security reasons, the only thing that counts is pumping back up the latest leaking or deflated balloon. If some participants happen to make a little extra jingle for their jeans, well, it'll all get worked out in the end.

After all, if America doesn't remain strong, who'll bring truth, justice and the American way to all those dark corners on earth? If you're in DC, better bring a high powered flashlight because it's mighty dark in that particular corner.

I pledge allegiance to the Banana Republic of the United States of America.

Anonymous's picture

Who does this exactly hurt in the United States?
QIB who should be smart enough not to buy this and everyone else involved are foreigners...

How does this affect average Americans? As far as I can tell on this particular deal only foreigners get screwed -- the average American just get a little bit of the pie thanks to whatever taxes GS and JPM pay on their gains.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

This is what I love about American moral behaviour and ethics. Anything goes as long as it's foreigners or the other guy who's getting screwed.

Anonymous's picture

Why should America police other countries capital markets?

Jim in MN's picture

OK, now what's this breaking over at Bloomberg?

Goldman Pays Junior-Ranking CDOs Before ‘Junk’ Senior Classes

Goldman is marking YOU zero, dude, even if you're a senior creditor!

Fritz's picture

You can take the Squid out of the Bucket Shop...

...but you can't take the Bucket Shop out of the Squid.

Anonymous's picture

Look at the runup on RHB today. from 23.42 to 25.21 and the offering priced tonight at 24.

BofA Merrill Lynch and J.P. Morgan Securities Inc. are serving as joint book-running managers for the offering, and Deutsche Bank Securities, RBC Capital Markets and Morgan Keegan & Company, Inc. are serving as co-managers.

Anonymous's picture

The "Austrian financial cadaver Erste bank" made (large) profits even during the financial crisis.
Most of its business is done with real people within the EU.
Eastern Europe will not collapse - bevore that happens it will happen to California.

Erste's stock price climbed very steep this year - it might stagnate or sink, dependig on world-economy and investor behavior but most of the new stock will go to a spanish bank (Criteria Caixa).

> not the Austrian regulators (assuming Austria even has any)
Austria is not a 3th world country.
You should do more research and less polemic.