Anthrax "Conviction" Falls Apart

George Washington's picture

Washington’s Blog

Silicon and Tin Added to Weaponize Anthrax

McClatchy noted yesterday:

in FBI laboratory reports about the anthrax mail attacks that killed
five people in 2001 is data suggesting that a chemical may have been
added to try to heighten the powder's potency, a move that some experts
say exceeded the expertise of the presumed killer.


The lab data, contained in more than 9,000
pages of files that emerged a year after the Justice Department closed
its inquiry and condemned the late Army microbiologist Bruce Ivins as
the perpetrator, shows unusual levels of silicon and tin in anthrax powder from two of the five letters.


Those elements are found in compounds that could be used to weaponize
the anthrax, enabling the lethal spores to float easily so they could
be readily inhaled by the intended victims, scientists say.


The existence of the silicon-tin chemical signature offered
investigators the possibility of tracing purchases of the more than 100
such chemical products available before the attacks, which might have
produced hard evidence against Ivins or led the agency to the real


But the FBI lab reports released in late February give
no hint that bureau agents tried to find the buyers of additives such as
tin-catalyzed silicone polymers.


The apparent failure of the
FBI to pursue this avenue of investigation raises the ominous
possibility that the killer is still on the loose.


McClatchy analysis of the records also shows that other key scientific
questions were left unresolved and conflicting data wasn't sorted out
when the FBI declared Ivins the killer shortly after his July 29, 2008,


One chemist at a national laboratory told McClatchy
that the tin-silicone findings and the contradictory data should prompt
a new round of testing on the anthrax powder.


A senior federal
law enforcement official, who was made available only on the condition
of anonymity, said the FBI had ordered exhaustive tests on the possible
sources of silicon in the anthrax and concluded that it wasn't added.
Instead, the lab found that it's common for anthrax spores to
incorporate environmental silicon and oxygen into their coatings as a
"natural phenomenon" that doesn't affect the spores' behavior, the
official said.


To arrive at that position, however, the FBI had
to discount its own bulk testing results showing that silicon composed
an extraordinary 10.8 percent of a sample from a mailing to the New
York Post and as much as 1.8 percent of the anthrax from a letter sent
to Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, far more than the
occasional trace contamination. Tin — not usually seen in anthrax
powder at all — was measured at 0.65 percent and 0.2 percent,
respectively, in those letters.




Several scientists and
former colleagues of Ivins argue that he was a career biologist who
probably lacked the chemistry knowledge and skills to concoct a
silicon-based additive.


"There's no way that an individual
scientist can invent a new way of making anthrax using silicon and
tin," said Stuart Jacobsen, a Texas-based analytical chemist for an
electronics company who's closely studied the FBI lab results. "It
requires an institutional effort to do this, such as at a military


Martin Hugh-Jones, a world-renowned anthrax expert who
teaches veterinary medicine at Louisiana State University, called it
"just bizarre" that the labs found both tin — which can be toxic to
bacteria such as anthrax during lab culturing — and silicon.


have two elements at abnormally high levels," Hugh-Jones said. "That
reduces your probability to a very small number that it's an accident."




The FBI guarded its laboratory's finding of 10.8 percent silicon in
the Post letter for years. New York Democratic Rep. Jerrold Nadler
asked FBI Director Robert Mueller how much silicon was in the Post and
Leahy letters at a hearing before the House Judiciary Committee in
September 2008. The Justice Department responded seven months later
that silicon made up 1.4 percent of the Leahy powder (without
disclosing the 1.8 percent reading) and that "a reliable quantitative
measurement was not possible" for the Post letter.




During the FBI's seven-year hunt, the Department of Homeland Security
commissioned a team of chemists at the Lawrence Livermore National
Laboratory in California to grow anthrax-like spores under varying
conditions to see how much silicon would end up naturally in the final


They found little, if any, silicon in most cases, far
less than was in the New York Post letter, said Stephan Velsko, one of
the two researchers. He called the tin readings from the FBI's anthrax
data "baffling."


Peter Weber, Velsko's co-researcher, said the
academy panel's focus on the conflicting data "raises a big question,"
and "it'd be really helpful for closure of this case if that was




In a chapter in a recently updated book,
"Microbial Forensics," Velsko wrote that the anthrax "must have indeed
been produced under an unusual set of conditions" to create such high
silicon counts. That scenario, he cautioned, might not be "consistent
with the prosecution narrative in this case."




Wilson, a chemist for another silicone products maker, SiVance, in
Gainesville, Fla., said that numerous silicon products could be used to
make spores or other particles water-repellent. He also said that the
ratios of silicon to tin found in the Post and Leahy samples would be
"about right" if a tin-catalyzed silicone had been added to the spores.


Jacobsen, a Scottish-born and -educated chemist who once experimented
with silicon coatings on dust particles, said he got interested in the
spore chemistry after hearing rumors in late 2001 that a U.S. military
facility had made the killer potions. He called it "outrageous" that
the scientific issues haven't been addressed.


"America, the
most advanced country in the world, and the FBI have every resource
available to them," he said. "And yet they have no compelling
explanation for not properly analyzing the biggest forensic clue in the
most important investigation the FBI labs had ever gotten in their


As a result of Ivins' death and the unanswered
scientific issues, Congress' investigative arm, the Government
Accountability Office, is investigating the FBI's handling of the
anthrax inquiry.

By way of background, I pointed out in 2008 that some of the top anthrax experts in the world say that the killer anthrax was weaponized.

I reported in 2008:


McClatchy notes:

of Ivins' former colleagues also dispute the FBI's assertion that he
had the capability to mill tiny anthrax spores and then bind them to silicon particles, the form of anthrax that was mailed to the office of then-senator Tom Daschle, D-S.D."

And as New Scientist writes, FBI agents "mention a 'silicon signature' for the anthrax in the envelopes with no further comment. Silica may be used to weaponise spore powders."

Evidence for the theory that the anthrax used in the attacks was coated with anti-clumping agents also comes from a a 2001 CBS article:

technicians at the Army biodefense lab in Fort Detrick, Md., tried to
examine a sample from the Daschle letter under a microscope, it floated
off the glass slide and was lost. "

Anthrax would normally
clump, so the fact that it "floated off the glass slide" points to the
anthrax being treated with anti-clumping and anti-static agents.

Why is this important?

It takes very sophisticated equipment and processes to coat something as small as an anthrax spore with anti-clumping agents:

a sophisticated lab could have produced the material used in the
Senate attack. This was the consensus among biodefense specialists
working for the government and the military. In May 2002, 16 of these
scientists and physicians published a paper in the Journal of the American Medical Association, describing the Senate anthrax powder as “weapons-grade” and exceptional: “high spore concentration, uniform particle size, low electrostatic charge, treated to reduce clumping” (JAMA, 1 May 2002, p. 2237)."



Dr. Ivins was a vaccine researcher, not a weapons maker. Moreover,
Ivins was working in a lab where - according to his co-workers and
supervisors - people went in and out all night checking on experiments
(so they presumably would have seen suspicious activity by Ivins, had
there been any), and Ivins did not have access to the extremely
high-tech equipment which would have been necessary to produce the
weaponized anthrax. He wasn't one of the count-on-one-hand group of
people who knew how to coat anthrax spores with anti-clumping agents

I wrote in 2009:

The publisher of the prestigious scientific journal Nature writes:

a biodefence meeting on 24 February, Joseph Michael, a materials
scientist at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico,
presented analyses of three letters sent to the New York Post and to the
offices of Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy. Spores from two of
those show a distinct chemical signature that includes silicon, oxygen, iron, and tin; the third letter had silicon, oxygen, iron and possibly also tin, says Michael. Bacteria from Ivins' RMR-1029 flask did not contain any of those four elements.


cultures of the same anthrax strain grown using similar processes —
one from Ivins' lab, the other from a US Army facility in Utah — showed
the silicon-oxygen signature but did not contain tin or iron. Michael
presented the analyses at the American Society for Microbiology's
Biodefense and Emerging Diseases Research Meeting in Baltimore,

I noted last year:

Edward Epstein writes in a must-read article in Wall Street Journal's Opinion section:

was used in the 1960s to weaponize anthrax. Through an elaborate
process, anthrax spores were coated with the substance to prevent them
from clinging together so as to create a lethal aerosol. But since
weaponization was banned by international treaties, research anthrax no
longer contains silicon, and the flask at Fort Detrick contained none.




Yet the anthrax grown from it had silicon,
according to the U.S. Armed Forces Institute of Pathology. This
silicon explained why, when the letters to Sens. Leahy and Daschle were
opened, the anthrax vaporized into an aerosol. If so, then somehow
silicon was added to the anthrax. But Ivins, no matter how weird he may
have been, had neither the set of skills nor the means to attach
silicon to anthrax spores.


At a minimum, such a process would
require highly specialized equipment that did not exist in Ivins's
lab—or, for that matter, anywhere at the Fort Detrick facility. As
Richard Spertzel, a former biodefense scientist who worked with Ivins,
explained in a private briefing on Jan. 7, 2009, the lab didn't even
deal with anthrax in powdered form, adding, "I don't think there's
anyone there who would have the foggiest idea how to do it." So while
Ivins's death provided a convenient fall guy, the silicon content still
needed to be explained.


The FBI's answer was that the anthrax
contained only traces of silicon, and those, it theorized, could have
been accidently absorbed by the spores from the water and nutrient in
which they were grown. No such nutrients were ever found in Ivins's
lab, nor, for that matter, did anyone ever see Ivins attempt to produce
any unauthorized anthrax (a process which would have involved him
using scores of flasks.) But since no one knew what nutrients had been
used to grow the attack anthrax, it was at least possible that they had
traces of silicon in them that accidently contaminated the anthrax.


contamination was an elegant theory that ran into problems after
Congressman Jerry Nadler pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller in
September 2008 to provide the House Judiciary Committee with a missing
piece of data: the precise percentage of silicon contained in the
anthrax used in the attacks.


The answer came seven months later
on April 17, 2009. According to the FBI lab, 1.4% of the powder in the
Leahy letter was silicon. "This is a shockingly high proportion,"
explained Stuart Jacobson, an expert in small particle chemistry. "It is
a number one would expect from the deliberate weaponization of
anthrax, but not from any conceivable accidental contamination."


in an attempt to back up its theory, the FBI contracted scientists at
the Lawrence Livermore National Labs in California to conduct
experiments in which anthrax is accidently absorbed from a media heavily
laced with silicon. When the results were revealed to the National
Academy Of Science in September 2009, they effectively blew the FBI's
theory out of the water.


Livermore scientists had tried 56 times to replicate the high silicon
content without any success. Even though they added increasingly high
amounts of silicon to the media, they never even came close to the 1.4%
in the attack anthrax. Most results were an order of magnitude lower,
with some as low as .001%.


What these tests inadvertently
demonstrated is that the anthrax spores could not have been accidently
contaminated by the nutrients in the media. "If there is that much
silicon, it had to have been added," Jeffrey Adamovicz, who supervised
Ivins's work at Fort Detrick, wrote to me last month. He added that the
silicon in the attack anthrax could have been added via a large
fermentor—which Battelle and other labs use" but "we did not use a
fermentor to grow anthrax at USAMRIID . . . [and] We did not have the
capability to add silicon compounds to anthrax spores"...


When I
asked a FBI spokesman this month about the Livermore findings, he said
the FBI was not commenting on any specifics of the case, other than
those discussed in the 2008 briefing (which was about a year before
Livermore disclosed its results). He stated: "The Justice Department and
the FBI continue working to conclude the investigation into the 2001
anthrax attacks. We anticipate closing the case in the near future."


even though the public may be under the impression that the anthrax
case had been closed in 2008, the FBI investigation is still open—and,
unless it can refute the Livermore findings on the silicon, it is back
to square one.



A manufacturer of specialized anthrax equipment said:

would need [a] chemist who is familiar with colloidal [fumed] silica,
and a material science person to put it all together, and then some
mechanical engineers to make this work . . . probably some containment
people, if you don't want to kill anybody. You need half a dozen, I
think, really smart people."

The U.N. biologist mentioned above also said that the equipment to make such high-tech anthrax does not exist at Fort Detrick, where Ivins worked.
People who work at Fort Detrick have confirmed this. In other words, a
lone scientist couldn't have done it without the support of a whole
government laboratory. And Fort Detrick was not one such potential

Vaccine expert Dr. Meryl Nass has also criticized the FBI's case against Bruce Ivins:

The letter spores contained a Bacillus subtilis contaminant, and silicon to
enhance dispersal. FBI has never found the Bacillus subtilis strain
at USAMRIID, and it has never acknowledged finding silicon there,
either. If the letters anthrax was made at USAMRIID, at least small
amounts of both would be there.


Does the FBI stand for the Federal Bureau of Invention?

Yesterday's McClatchy post also points out:


silicon-tin connection wasn't the only lead left open in one of the
biggest investigations in FBI history, an inquiry that took the bureau
to the cutting edge of laboratory science. In April, McClatchy reported
that after locking in on Ivins in 2007, the bureau stopped searching
for a match to a unique genetic bacterial strain scientists had found
in the anthrax that was mailed to the Post and to NBC News anchor Tom
Brokaw, although a senior bureau official had characterized it as the
hottest clue to date.

Ivins' Bosses Say Under Oath that He Couldn't Have Done It

And as AP notes, two of Bruce Ivins' bosses have - under oath - said that Ivins couldn't have done it:

widow of a Florida tabloid photo editor who died in the 2001 anthrax
mailings is casting fresh doubt on the FBI's conclusion that a lone
federal scientist staged the attacks, according to new documents filed
in her lawsuit against the government.




statements made by two of the scientist's superiors who said they don't
believe Bruce Ivins was solely to blame for the attacks ...


statements raising questions about the FBI's conclusions were made in
depositions earlier this year by W. Russell Byrne and Gerard Andrews,
who oversaw Ivins' work at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of
Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Md. Byrne was chief of
bacteriology at the biodefense lab from 1998 to early 2000 and Andrews
held the post from 2000 to 2003.


According to court documents,
Byrne told Stevens' attorneys that Ivins "did not have the lab skills
to make the fine powdered anthrax used in the letters" and that it
would have been difficult for Ivins to do the work at night undetected.
Byrne said others would have noticed the unusual use of equipment and
supplies because of the hazardous microbes involved in their work.


pay attention to things because your lack of observation could cost
you your life," Byrne said, according to the documents.


In a telephone interview Thursday, Byrne said he knew Ivins for 15 years and remains unconvinced he was capable of such crimes.


"It just wasn't the Bruce Ivins that I knew," said Byrne, who retired in 2003 and still lives in Frederick.


Andrews, the other superior, told lawyers it
would have taken Ivins six months to a year to refine the anthrax
spores used in the deadly mailings, instead of the roughly 20 hours the
FBI found he spent at night in the lab.
[One of the handful of people who actually can produce the kind of high-tech weaponized anthrax used in the attacks previously said, "Even with a good lab and staff to help run it, it might take me a year to come up with a product as good."]


also said Ivins did not have the expertise to do the work and some of
the necessary equipment wasn't available at Fort Detrick at the time.


added that in the 16 years he knew Ivins, there was no indication
"that he understood the weaponization technology of anthrax spores, nor
did any of his colleagues ever talk to me about his interest or
understanding" of the processes required.


"Dr. Andrews stated in
his opinion, it would take more than one person to achieve this attack
because of the unusual physical characteristics of the powders," the
court document said.

He's Guilty Because He Was Odd

So what evidence does the FBI have against Ivins?

As Anthrax expert Dr. Nass notes, all of the FBI's "circumstantial" evidence falls apart the minute it is looked at closely.

At the end of the day, the FBI literally hinges its case on the fact
that Ivins was "odd". Based on that criteria, the FBI could convict
anyone it chose based on mere character assassination.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Reptil's picture

Some old corpses here:

In April, 1979, a horrifying accident happened at a secretive military base called "Compound 19." Behind imposing walls, a deadly production line turned out tonnes of anthrax powder for the Soviet Union's biological arsenal. One April morning, a small amount of the dust was accidentally released through the ventilation system. The invisible plume was blown over a working class neighbourhood and nearby ceramics factory.

jack1sparrow's picture

In news today, According to main line psychologist. The word "odd" is now a term for terrorism. speaking of which, "wasn't Einstein odd"? ok, now back to you jeff.

Ponzi Unit's picture

The brilliance of the anthrax attack is that it was sent through the mail, and every citizen has a mail box. Manhattan, to most Americans, is a strange and distant outpost of Europe, but everybody has a mailbox, baby! The anthrax affair was a ruthless act of terror directed against the citizens of the United States by the same crew who brought you Norad stand-down and controlled demolition on 9/11. You and I and Mr. and Mrs. Front porch are the true targets of the war on terror. Only our hearts and minds can endorse and underwrite the imperial agenda.


espirit's picture

"America, the most advanced country in the world, and the FBI have every resource available to them," he said. "And yet they have no compelling explanation for not properly analyzing the biggest forensic clue in the most important investigation the FBI labs had ever gotten in their history."

Unless the compelling explanation was a false flag attack.  So... how much has this investigation cost to date? Still rising? 

BlackholeDivestment's picture

Admiral Crowe, the Bush's and Team We Kill Casolaro's and put bullet holes in the Commerce Secretary's head, Mr. Brown.

I was in the direct line of fire on the Hill and at work at a natonal news company in D.C.. Some of us have been dodging the local ''anthrax'' traffic for years. 

P.S. Danny never made it on the Wall in the ''Newseum''  ...and setting up a private DELTA Team to take out the ones that are ''standing by'', well, don't worry, all this will be the least of our issues in the hours, days and few years left. Drilling Piccard's teeth and waterboarding Tenent and Rummy, or taking away Dick's Duracell Bunny and breaking Team Skull and Bones Raises Rosemary's Baby would be needed ASAP ...if not. Watch. Things shall become much more acute and shall be quickened beyond any possible efforts for ''our'' correction. Count on it. The time of sealing is now upon this generation. I mean come on, the NSA could give us the target confirmations for every insider on Earth, do you really think ''we'' can overcome ''the beast'' at this point? Prophecy says neeeeew.

When ''they'' make contact; the unsealed host(s), the ''inside job'' nutballs, you see dead people with badges and regular folk with peculiar looks, it's not so subtle for some to see.        

P.S.S. If thats you Mr. Shadow, that junked me in the name of ZORG, I am honored as ususal but, by ''inside nutballs'', that's the NWO Nutballs''. 911 is an inside job and so is the anthrax. If you do not know that, you are an idiot.                                                  

Old Poor Richard's picture

Ivins had what amounts to a "jug" of a bunch of different strains mixed together, including mutant strains not existing anywhere else. It essentially had no scientific purpose. And when the FBI was collecting samples from every known stored stash of anthrax everywhere, Ivins deliberately sent them pure-looking strains from that "jug" excluding the mutant ones (which grew funny on media--it was visually obvious which colonies were mutant and which ones were pure).

Thus he was hiding the contents of his jug of mutants.

Other people had access to that mix of strains from his jug because he had sent it out to others--maybe it was known that it would implicate Ivins; but why would he not openly provide samples of the mutant strains in the first place?

And where in the world did he get access to the machines needed to dry and mill the spores? Not to mention, of course, the special tin laden silicone dispersant?

samsara's picture


Read this one also.  It is another case of Weaponized anthrax use.  This was done against a Arkansas State Trooper.  He as on the trail of Mena drug smuggling in Mena Arkansas.  You know Clinton's state.   Very Interesting read.

"On the weekend of September 21, 1991, Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch.. "

or just google 'Russell Welch Anthrax'

Savyindallas's picture

Do you really need to ask who did it? The same crowd that did 911  -and it wasn't Bin laden or the cave dwelling sect of Sunnis - or were they shias? I forgot.

jewish doctor Zacks is the most likely suspect, with high level Neocon/Mossad assistance. Like stephen hatfill, the dead guy they framed it on was a patsy.

amazing how many idiots believe the official government story. As long as they can get away with it, they'll keep on doing more of the same.


SmittyinLA's picture

I don't buy the "you need a sophisticated group of highly skilled eggheads with specialized equipment working for months or years" argument, I bet you could get the same results using a head shop cocaine grinder in an sealed aquarium with gloved portals.

I've made a few model airplanes, there's a nifty additive called "microballoons" thats silicon based and would be perfect for weaponizing anthrax and you can buy it in any hobbyshop.

Gunther's picture

Microballoons are a filler for resin. To weaponize spores an anti-caking agent is needed.

Google the difference.

Savyindallas's picture

The more i discover just how prolific the government is at lying (or the Shadow Government) the more I question just about everything I read these days. I'm beginning to wonder if Jefffrey dahmer really did eat all those people -or was it really richard Perle  -and we were all must lead to believe it was Jeffrey Dahmer.

BetTheHouse's picture

Another high-level conspiracy uncovered by George Washington. Yawn. I was a victim of the 2001 anthrax attacks. Had the spores on my desk, my computer keyboard, my clothes. Took twice daily doses CIPRO and had regular nasal swabs for months.  No fun.  Sorry to break it to this guy, but Bruce Ivins did it. The FBI, after fucking up the investigation, found him.  And he killed himself over it.  End of story.  George Washington should stick with his more plausable "The SEALS didn't really kill Bin Laden because, golly, look, his beard is darker than it was at Tora Bora" charge.   I mean, what ISN'T a freaking conspiracy to this guy?   

samsara's picture

Sorry #5 has already been used in this comment section.

Try another number.

25 Rules of Disinformation:  )


Savyindallas's picture

Man  -the anthrax did far more damage to your brain than you realize. have you thought about suing the government?  

Monkey Craig's picture

BetTheHouse is a paid stooge for the Mossad or CIA. Don't feed the trolls!

fxrxexexdxoxmx's picture

I worry about the paid stooges from totalitarian theocracies who stone people to death for something your mom did with the mailman while her husband was at work.

BetTheHouse's picture

Absolutely.  The Mossad and the CIA are really concerned about influencing you.  Cuz you are so fucking important.   

nah's picture

really, i always hoped so... anthrax is total bullshit anways dont you think... i vote

Antarctico's picture

Time to file this sick, false-flag event under the heading The Evil That Neocons Do and start making the list of the guilty who's necks will fill the public stocks. When will enough finally be enough? How much more of this Strauss inspired BS will we be forced to endure before we grab our pitchforks and torches and, metaphorically, storm the Bastille?

Derpin USA's picture

In other words, a lone scientist couldn't have done it without the support of a whole government laboratory.

Whole government laboratory.

Government laboratory.


It's really simple. This clue should've made the FBI investigation incredibly focused and relatively easy to solve. It could still solve the case, but something tells me the implications are so startling that we will never know the truth.

The FBI didn't latch on to Ivins because he was odd. That he was odd was the reason to try him in the media because people find it easy to believe outrageous accusations against people they don't identify with.

The FBI did not want to go down the road the evidence pointed because they knew exactly where it might lead.

Seer's picture

"The FBI did not want to go down the road the evidence pointed because they knew exactly where it might lead."

To the non-disclosed black budget, the budget, which, according to the Constitution, is illegal.  It's a big fucking racket.

proLiberty's picture

We will have to file this under the same federal LEO behavior as they evidenced in the TWA 800 crash, where 154 witnesses told the FBI they saw something rise up towards the aircraft before it exploded, yet as soon as the fuel tank theory came to light, what these witnesses saw was no longer of interest to anyone, including the MSM.  Then we have John Doe Number Two of the OKCBOMB, for whom the FBI had an alert to find, that is until Tim McVeigh was arrested and found to be a white supremacist, after which it was denied there was any John Doe at all, that is until ex Iraqi Republican Guard officer  Hussain Hashem al-HUSSAINI, now a homeless person, as arrested in a Boston suburb in March of this year.  And then we have the first bombing of the World Trade Center, which was officially a "crime", and so on. 


The evidence is ample that the FBI has been polliticized to the point that it is more a policy enforcement agency than a law enforcement one.


Monkey Craig's picture

Great comment. Don't forget John O'Neil who left the FBI to become head of security at the WTC. He died on 9-11.


One other key point regarding Oklahoma City. Even though it was a Tuesday morning, none of the ATF showed up to the office that fateful day.

fajensen's picture

none of the ATF showed up to the office that fateful day.

Because ... Those lard-arsed wastes of protein call in sick more or less EVERY day after an evenings heavy drinking! Your taxes at work!!

Manthong's picture

Aah, none of this matters anymore anyhow.. the earthquakes in Australia should be starting up any moment now. I got my Sunday go-to-meeting duds on and am ready to be swept up to eternity.

Florida Joe's picture

Is this the FBI that could not even properly match a fingerprint a few years back?


And the Olympic Atlanta bomber . . .



Shock and Aweful's picture

I thought something was "fishy" about how the only guy they could pin this on just happened to be some "odd-ball" who just so happend to "kill himself" so he could not give his account of things. 


The oldest trick in the book or corrupt regimes is to do away with the evidence that stands against your lies - you know...the "no crime concept"


I also found it very strange that these attacks came right on the eve of the big vote for the passage of the USA Patriot Act.  You know...have to target a couple places...knowing that the MSM would parrot the official story over and over and over and over nauseum.


The modus operandi of these tyrants is so in your face...that it is insulting to anyone with half-way open eyes.


Remember....even Goebbels is much easier for the public to believe in a big lie than to believe in a small one..."   Don't think for a second that the CIA (or whichever black organization "handles" these types of operations) does not understand this....


The truth is what you are told it is....unless you ask questions.

DaveyJones's picture

yes the patriot act timing and critics. What a conincidence

That Peak Oil Guy's picture

Just in case it matters, take a few moments to tell your representatives not to extend the damn Patriot Act next week:

Things that go bump's picture

Like that's going to do any good.  I called and faxed and emailed my representatives until I was blue in the face about Hank Paulson's 700 billion bailout and fat lot of good it did me.  A snotty kid in Norm Coleman's office was rude to me.  I told him to tell Coleman he was fired.  I guess I got the last laugh there.  Coleman looked like a broken man when he conceded to Franken.  Lost a bunch of weight and all gray in the face like someone with cancer or a pulmonary condition.  I was somewhat mollified.  

fxrxexexdxoxmx's picture

Franken is a better Senator in your eyes? You must also think every vote counts unless it is for a candidate with anything other than "d" by the name. Vote early and vote often?

He did not win the election. He and his progressive friends stole Minnesota's senate seat.

Al Franken is big fat idiot.

Things that go bump's picture

I don't believe in the red/blue stuff.  They're all the same, so what difference does it make? Coleman was a Democrat before he changed parties because Republicans were being elected that year.  There is not a doubt in my mind that he would have gladly changed back to a Democrat if he thought it would do him any good.  They are all whores, you know,without loyalty or honor and they are selling us down the river and worse, they are laughing at us while they do it.  He voted for TARP.  So did my Democrat Representative and I voted against her too.  I just got more pleasure out of Coleman's loss because I'm vindictive.    

Quinvarius's picture

So it came from the stocks of a major governmnet biological warfare stockpile somewhere.  Completely weaponized.

Jalaluddin's picture

Not necessarily, but a reasonable working hypothesis if one wanted to narrow the field and have a reasonable chance of cracking the case before the end of the world.

The FBI could have started with Level 4 labs (actual followed by potential) but then, if a nation has been lying to itself for two centuries, why would the FBI want to get to the bottom of the matter?

Joebloinvestor's picture

The FBI doesn't want to admit that Iven's played them like a violin.

He was a paid informant, go ahead look it up.

He pointed the finger at others to deflect suspicion.

I Am The Unknown Comic's picture

aw come on, everybody.  This is just more silly conspiracy theory.  We all know that everybody has tin-catalyzed silicone polymers (seriously, what the fuck is that?!?!) in an old coffee can in their garage and that it is a common, household item.  Now stop being pesky and just take the gubmint's word for it.


MrBoompi's picture

I come from many years experience in the paint & coatings and food additives industries and I can tell you the use of small-particle silicon dioxides for anti-clumping (more easily dispersed in the air) is not the rocket science the FBI is trying to say it is.

TheMerryPrankster's picture

There are major differences in applying silicon dioxides to paint and milling dried bacteria (a lethal bacteria - should you inhale or ingest a single spore a painful death awaits) and then onced milled, knowing  how to appply the proper amounts of coatings and having the equipment to apply said materials in a procedure that does not expose the equipment operator to either the milled bacteria or the finished anti-static spores.

If it were "easy" to do you wouldn't have terrorist wasting time on bombs and suicide vests.

OldTrooper's picture

Did you work with Clark Griswold on that non-nutritive cereal varnish?

Derpin USA's picture

There are multiple people who know far more about the issue who were quoted in the article. They disagree with your assessment.

Did you actually read it? Maybe you should read it again. It's pretty clear.

flacorps's picture

I guess they didn't want any potential copycats thinking they could do it with the right textbook, some sand and a blender ... and now you've let the cat out of the bag.

Magat Guru's picture

SYLOX(TM) (fumed silica USP) comes in big, fluffy 10-kg bags, and is used throughout the food / cosmetic industry as an anti-caking agent. This is the lo-tech version, comm'ly available. Just imagine what is available for a few $$ more and a note from your Director of Research!

Seer's picture

Obtaining materials is one thing, getting all this stuff to come together is a whole nother ball of wax.