• Phoenix Capital Research
    09/02/2010 - 15:21
    Honestly, I cannot predict when Bernanke will unveil QE 2. All I can say is that it largely does not matter in the grand scheme of things. Yes, it will cause some short-term volatility. But ultimately QE 2 will simply be a catalyst that speeds up the processes that are already underway. Those processes are: 1) Systemic collapse 2) Destruction of fiat money 3) Massive loss of wealth
  • madhedgefundtrader
    09/01/2010 - 23:06
    The 3 1/2 point sell off in the futures for the 30 year Treasury bond (TBT), at the end of last week was the sharpest drop in 18 months. All it took to set was for Q2 GDP to come in at 1.6%, and for Ben Bernanke to remain silent about any plans to flood the markets with more liquidity. After yields bottomed in 1956, bonds suffered negative returns for 30 years! Here come the 18% mortgages. One more equity puke out in September could easily give us the real thing. (TBT), (TMV), (TIPS).

Are Bond Vigilantes Now Focusing On UK Gilts?

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The chart below is not indicative of the widening in the sovereign credit of some backwater PIIGS country. It shows the rather substantial move higher in 10 year British Gilt yields over the past week.

Are the bond vigilantes slowly but surely (and as very much expected) moving from the periphery, where all the low hanging fruit has been picked, to the core, where the acceleration is only just starting? To be sure, the Gilts are easy targets: with QE unanimously voted out, and increasing budget deficit, there is little to like.

The Guardian has more:

"The market is upset about that – the UK budget deficit is an issue, everyone wants to know what the government plans to do," said Jim Leaviss, head of fixed interest at M&G Investments. "We need to do something, otherwise we're in big trouble."Leaviss runs a website called Bond Vigilantes – reviving a term coined in the 1980s in the US when activist investors sold bonds en masse, pushing yields up, and forcing cuts in the US deficit.


"The bond vigilantes are the most important people in the capital markets right now – they're back and they'll punish the weak," said Gary Jenkins, a credit analyst at Evolution Securities. "The bond market is the single most important market and will determine what the other markets will do: the key question this year is: will sovereign countries be able to finance themselves at a rate that's reasonable? If so, markets will develop. If not, everyone has a problem."


The bond vigilantes are punishing countries with high budget deficits, such as Britain, the US, Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal, on concerns about their ability to recoup loans. Far from declaring themselves speculative opportunists, the punishment comes against "governments that have lost control of their public finances", Leaviss said, as he iwarned governments to get public spending under control.


"We're reflecting the reality that developed nations need to sort out their budget problems. Otherwise, there's potential default, or inflation," he said.

And concludes:

After a few days of calm, the cost of insuring British, Greek, Spanish and Portuguese debt against default rose again, according to data from Markit. Greek bond yields also leapt after a German official said that "not a penny" should be lent to Greece. The comments contrast with the EU's assurance last week that it would stand by the country.


"The EU politicians should speak on one voice if they want the bond market to calm down," Jenkins said.


The vigilantes are watching indeed.

If the UK goes, Germany itself can't be too far behind. If Gilts are about to be Friend-O'ed, don't look for Bund love too far from Newport Beach's Fashion Island.

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by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 15:06
#235901

why is the market ramping? can someone with a bloomberg terminal please tell me what happened at 2:15PM EST that was so damn important?

by Going Down
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 15:07
#235905

 

Focusing On Gilts?

 

Only after Goldman Sachs and John Paulson are finished with Greece.

 

Yves Smith:

 

Goldman Sachs contre, tout contre, la Grèce Jean Quatremer (hat tip Eurointelligence). I’d translate the piece, but my French is not what it once was (as in I can read it but I might muff some of the finer points). He accuses Goldman and John Paulson’s hedge funds of being the moving forces behind the attack on Greece and the euro:

Je peux donc vous confirmer que, selon des sources concordantes, Goldman Sachs et le fonds spéculatif dirigé par John Paulson seraient les deux principaux acteurs des attaques contre la Grèce et l’euro.

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 15:24
#235962

Why is this market up on big volume since 2:15PM EST???

by VegasBD
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:00
#236099

taking responsibility for your own actions is so last generation...

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 15:42
#236025

bond vigilantes are extinct

and so is price discovery

every price is determined by Goldman Fucking Sachs

so long as the government continues to allow them to operate

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 15:53
#236072

Bond vigilantes makes them sound sinister--they're not, they protect the value of our currency and our savings. Governments are way out of control with crack-pot Keynesianism, where in the long run you're dead but in the short run you're still tripping. Go bond market, sober these guys up!

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:02
#236109

Shorting government bonds in this enlightened age of the Gutenberg 5000X fiat printing press is sheer folly. This is all going to end very badly (and very quickly when it starts to topple), but not because of falling prices, of anything.

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:04
#236114

"We need to do something, otherwise we're in big trouble."

I can't see the Labour party announcing any spending cuts this close to an election and the Conservative party will talk about spending cuts but not actually tell us what they are. Unless the political leadership in the UK vanishes into thin area and politicians like Daniel Hannan come into power I think we're on a sinking ship.

At least we won’t be alone.

Oh, as I always like to be the optimist at least when the pound crashes gold 'n silver will go sky high (in the UK anyway).

by BernankeCo
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 17:04
#236118

What would be most unfortunate is twisting this event as a false pretext for going after political opponents.
That twisting has already begun. Remember, never let a good crisis go to waste.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/18/13251/7661
The start of more terrorism?
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html
Many parts of it read something like a teabagger manifesto, purportedly written by Joe Stack.

by JimboJammer
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:06
#236127

The  Dominos  are  starting  to  fall....

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:13
#236154

We would look forward to this. Please bring on the guilt strike.

We are governed by a crazy party who spend literally billions on nothing and have no respect for the (unwritten) constitution. They also couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery. Owing to the fact that all private donors have stopped funding the labour party and it has -£30 million, the unions have a lot of power and have been organizing to cause problems as soon as labour lose the election (if they don't rig it).

If a guilt strike happens before the election a) the labour party will be destroyed forever and b) the labour party will be blamed (they will try to blame it on "foreigners" ala EU & Greece however the media (bar the BBC) will know where the true blame lies).

This will hopefully allow us to tackle the bloated public sector (more than 50% GDP), remove the endless red tape, simplify the tax system (there are 16,000 pages of primary tax legislation - the largest in the OECD) and rebuild our country. Our economy is absolutely ruined and needs to be reformed, but the labour government has spent the past 18 months "stimulating" the economy by stealing from the future - making things much worse but not immediately obvious to people who don't take much of an interest in the arcane world of sovereign debt, off balance sheet items, tax revenues etc. The government hopes that when it loses the election the new government, who seem to be serious, well at least we hope, will be forced to deal with these problems (austerity) and can then snipe from the sidelines with a view to winning the subsequent election.

A guilt strike would be a good thing - focus minds.

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:24
#236186

trading the markets so long as goldman fucking sachs is allowed to operate this way is just a mistake

i'm not touching ANY securities until they are shut down

by Anonymous
on Thu, 02/18/2010 - 16:46
#236278

In case you have not noticed, US treasuries have been getting hit too...
But again like anything this may all be a head fake...

by Anonymous
on Fri, 02/19/2010 - 06:24
#237311

exactly. the spread to treasuries hasn't changed in the last week. 10y gilt is hanging around 35bps over

by the.spear
on Fri, 02/19/2010 - 02:09
#237242

It's hammer time!

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