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Are Reverse Repo Liquidity Suctions Approaching?

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Could this be the proverbial first step removing the trillions in excess Federal liquidity? Per Bloomberg:

Central bank officials are discussing plans to use so-called reverse repurchase agreements to drain some of the $1
trillion they pumped into the economy, said the people, who
declined to be identified because the talks are private. That’s
where the Fed sells securities to its 18 primary dealers for a
specific period, temporarily decreasing the amount of money
available in the banking system.

Or maybe this is just yet another red herring, while the true liquidity pump continues until the bubble blows up under its own weight. Knowing the Chairman, everyone's money is on the latter. And in confirmation of just that:

There’s no sense that policy makers intend to withdraw
funds anytime soon, said the people. The central bank’s
challenge is to decrease the cash without stunting the economy’s
recovery and before it sparks inflation. Fed Chairman Ben S.
Bernanke said in a July Wall Street Journal opinion article that
reverse repos are one tool to accomplish that goal without
raising interest rates.

Alas taking liquidity from PDs will be harder than weaning heroin addicts using metric ton injectable portions of methadone.

“One thing the Fed has to figure out is if they can launch
pilot programs without spooking the market and creating the
perception that they are about to tighten,” said Louis
Crandall, chief economist at Wrightson ICAP LLC, a Jersey City,
New Jersey-based research firm that specializes in government
finance. “They are discussing things like accounting issues,
and updating the governing documents to the volume of reverse
repos the dealer community could absorb.”

Looking at this market where downticks over the past month can be counted on one hand, it is unlikely that the market will be too happy if it were to be taken away its main bubble creating toy which is then translated into persistent block ramps using various algorithms in the absence of any real trading.

Yet there was no market hesitation today, as the S&P closed once more at year highs, without even a breather of hesitation, with tomorrow's FOMC unlikely to be even remotely surprising. As the table below shows, inflation expectations are only for show: nobody believes the Fed will have any response to the commodity price inflation that Americans may be witnessing. The real deflation is here to stay. Also the amount of people expecting a rate hike by December is now 5%, compared to the 59% at the market's lows in March. Which makes sense looking at Treasuries. However, to understand equities, feel free to call your friendly neighborhood PD, and also loop in whatever collocation boxes accept collect calls around your primary exchange. Don't worry, thanks to flash VoIP the boxes will already be expecting your call.




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Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:35 | Link to Comment SDRII
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i thought the fed paying interest on reserves was the tool to keep the liquidity out of the market? So now they will just do a reverse repo? What is the rate spread between a GC reverse repo and the rate paid on reserves? this sounds like a Bloomberg headline for the unwashed

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:29 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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Thats why this makes no sense. How is this supposed to remove excess liquidity when the securities will be bought with excess reserves held at the Fed? They are just shuffling these securities around in a closed-loop system.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 23:23 | Link to Comment californiagirl
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Could it be that Bernanke just wants to raise some more cash to prop up more Treasury auctions and buy more MBS?  He already spent the $1 Trillion in reserves he extracted from the banks in the past year.  Geithner needs to raise plenty more debt.  In the mean time, since Congress has not managed to pass the Cap & Trade and Healthcare, the government will not be able to spend it as quickly as it would like.  So Geithner can deposit the extra money into the Treasury's account at the FED and give Bernanke more spending money.  It is just postponing the inevitable.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:03 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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He already spent the bank reserves? This is not true, bank reserves are still as high as ever.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 18:44 | Link to Comment californiagirl
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I meant the cash the FED received from bank reserves on deposit at the FED. 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 23:36 | Link to Comment dnarby
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Lol!

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:36 | Link to Comment JOHNICON
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Anyone notice that lately, despite the ebullient sentiment, the indices are not skying everyday?  Or is it just me...?

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:05 | Link to Comment kensdad
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Everyone is max long...  The VIX is crashing and Put/Call ratios are super bearish (skewed to calls over puts)...  The market is still going up on muscle-memory dip-buying.  When the correction arrives it's going to be vicious...  Still, you've got to have steel cojones to get short...

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:20 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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The Fed has set up the conditions for a huge crash in October by conveniently scheduling the POMOs to be completed at the end of this month. Should be a very interesting month.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 19:53 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 22:45 | Link to Comment glenlloyd
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I'm hearing 28-30 days

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:39 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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Something tells me the Fed is getting worried about being audited. Maybe the real plan is to use these reverse repos to offload the worst of securities at full value, and then when the audit is finished they take them right back because the dealers certainly won't want them.

Just throwing it out there. The timing just seems too coincidental. Audit the Fed bill gets its first committee meeting and almost immediately the Fed is in discussions with its dealers over 'exit strategies'...

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:06 | Link to Comment deadhead
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"...these reverse repos to offload the worst of securities at full value"

or, the Fed can offload millions of shares of spy, bac, wfc, ad infinitum

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:13 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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The more I think about it, the more I think this may be what they are up to. Otherwise, consider how completely ineffectual this move would be if the goal was to either reduce the Fed's balance sheet or to remove liquidity from the system. It won't remove any liquidity from the system, because the money was never really in the system to begin with. There's a giant mountain of bank money sitting at the Federal Reserve as excess reserves. Also, it won't really reduce the Fed's balance sheet because the repo is only temporary. But temporary is exactly what they'.d want if they just want to stow them away out of sight of any audit. Besides, any talk of reducing liquidity when interest rates are to be kept at 0-.25% seems crazy

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 02:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:12 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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Is there a specific reason why bank reserves could not be used to fund these purchases?

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Since the terms of the reverse repo will almost certainly require the return of the securities at the expiration of the contract term, they can hide, but they can't run from an audit. Easy question to track down.

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:11 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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Ok, this is the kind of answer I'm looking for. But, still, I am not convinced. If it's so difficult to run from an audit though, I have to wonder how all these banks managed to pass the so-called stress tests.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:36 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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Yes, and don't leave out, 'recovery will be sluggish for a time'.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:08 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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You're being WAY too easy on them.

Monetary policy has been totally asymmetric (as in "EZ-Money, all the time") ever since September 1992, when Fed Funds was lowered to 3.00% and left there for a year-and-a-half in order to inflate the equities bubble. That's 17 years and counting.

At the end of the day, push eventually WILL come to shove, and the Fed will be forced to defend the dollar to prevent a run on all US $ denominated assets. But that's probably going to be a 2011-2012 problem, so party on!

 

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:51 | Link to Comment I am a Man I am...
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At the rate the dollar is dropping, it will be within two months.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 21:17 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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Shoring up the dollar is but a crisis away, easily arranged.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 21:48 | Link to Comment deadhead
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+1

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment monkeyshine
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Not to be interpreted as a defense of all things, but, the dollar has been the reserve currency for the rest of the world since long before that, and during the last 17 years in particular the ROW has had incredible expansion and appetite for spending. Loose dollar policy can be "blamed" for the greatest economic expansion in the history of the world. It hasn't been all bad.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:09 | Link to Comment mule65
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Of course you're Anonymous.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 19:56 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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Oh, OK.  I'll take your word for it, Mr. I Make Random But Very Specific Predictions With No Arguments Whatsoever To Back Them Up.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:47 | Link to Comment fotokemist
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Shold MyKillK be correct, is there any reason that the audit cannot include all transactions for, say, the past two years?

Wed, 09/23/2009 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:48 | Link to Comment Brian Griffin
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Wow, that analogy is hilarious. 

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 16:54 | Link to Comment TwoJacks
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I'll believe this reverse repo bidness when the dollar reverses. Until then, it's b.s.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:31 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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If this is a bluff, what does the Fed stand to gain for it?

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:44 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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Temporary credibility from Treasury buyers - buys time for both them and the FED.  Maybe a miracle will happen!

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:21 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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I don't believe that explanation. They don't need to buy credibility. They seem to be able to sell as much Treasuries as they so desire.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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Yeah now they do, but not once their $300 billion treasury program ends ($9 billion left)... high and dry.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 20:56 | Link to Comment jm
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There is plenty of money in the stock market to plug the hole.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:36 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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This is true. But it seems like a really weak attempt. Anyone involved in the bond market would see right through it.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:03 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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Alas taking liquidity from PDs will be harder than weaning heroin addicts using metric ton injectable portions of methadone.

classic tyler durden....

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:16 | Link to Comment donatoloscalzo
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it will all end in tears....................i feel sorry for Bernanke: he has and still is doing everything and even more than humanly possible but..............

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:30 | Link to Comment Lionhead
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I hope you also feel sorry for the millions of savers, retired folks, and assundry shareholders of all strips that are/have been penalized for his policies and wrong headed decisions. Add to that, the nation's young-lings that will be forced into paying off all this debt.

I have no tears for this man; may God judge him harshly for all the fellow citizens he's harmed.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:41 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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I stand by my prediction that he will be the first to be hung as a traitor when the Revolution starts.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 20:51 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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Solid prediction, I have been thinking the same thing. There is no more treasonous act than destroying the currency of a sovereign nation, the currency you have been mandated and paid to manage and defend, bringing about the ruin of its responsible citizens, destroying the fruits of their hard labor.

He will be judged harshly, and rightly so, in my opinion.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:57 | Link to Comment I am a Man I am...
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No offense, but I hope we don't have to leave it to an all powerful being to punish these guys.  I'm not convinced anyone upstairs is paying attention.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Stevm30
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Also he's not doing everything that's "humanly possible".  Instead, he's doing what is easiest, and getting all the bs political laurels from the media that comes with "taking the easy way".  For example: for further exacerbating a crises that we WILL have to eventually confront, he has been appointed to another term...  Remember how fawning his 60 minutes profile was?

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:17 | Link to Comment Josey Wales
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I think this is a great idea, why just look at how good the treasury sales are of late!!!  I bet the primary dealers will be chomping at the bit to give some cash in exchange for Treasuries! 

Or perhaps the FED will issue these Re-REPOS, load the banks with treasuries, then POMO them back onto some FED balance sheet a week later like they do the treasury auctions. 

Maybe this story sells in the US but do foriegners actually believe this stuff???

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:26 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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You are assuming this is referring to Treasuries, but you must have forgotten that the Fed has created several liquidity programs over the last couple years that deal with every kind of security imaginable. I would bet that the Fed is dealing with the worst of Wall Street's trash here...

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Josey Wales
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The article referenced "primary dealers", so I guess I assumed these were the same primary dealers who sell treasuries.  Perhaps I made an ass out of me and umptions...

I guess if they would sell any security with the promise of buying it back they could use that as a way of establishing a price for new mark-to-market rules.  Maybe the banks could point to the prices offered by the FED as legitamate fair value of all this trash? 

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:17 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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Here's a wonderful pdf that lists all the Fed and Treasury liquidity programs, who is eligible to participate, and what type of assets/securities are covered:

 

http://www.cadwalader.com/assets/client_friend/042309_Treasury,_Federal_...

TALF, MBSPP, PDCF, TSLF, and TOP all involve the Fed & Primary Dealers. What's very interesting, is most if not all of these programs are scheduled to finish at the end of October.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:30 | Link to Comment Fritz
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There is no game plan on the part of the Fed.

They are making shit up as they go along. If they pull liquidity now, they know its game over for asset prices.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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you are spot in your comparison, except that unlike CNBC we have a sense of humor.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 18:39 | Link to Comment MyKillK
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I doubt CNBC would even cover this story in the slightest

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 19:35 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Wrongo..., Kudlow is milking this to death as support for King Dollar.

Tue, 09/22/2009 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Uros Slokar
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See: Manifesto.

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Tue, 09/22/2009 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Bryan
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Why does the word "liposuction" keep coming to mind?

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