Assessing The Fukushima Radiation Danger "Near And Far"

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Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:06 | 1128591 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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The Bernank sees no inflated danger.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:38 | 1128778 Ahmeexnal
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British Columbia and the northwest US should have been evacuated days ago.

It will only get worse. Expect millions of Joe Sixpacks to frantically make a run for the Mexican border as they realize their governments have deliberately marked them for extintion.


Real estate prices in Soweto are about to skyrocket any minute now.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:13 | 1128931 mogul rider
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Canadians don't run from anything, they turn around and kick some ass.We;re kind of like the Spartans in "The 300", except we are the kindest people on the planet, Till you mess with our beer then we go Spartan and chuck you down a mineshaft.

That being said,

I notice that there is 1 millionth amount of radiation in BC rainwater required to cause cancer. Do the dopes around the world realize that we Canadians drink a million bottles of beer a month. That means the average BC'er  has a month to party.

Actually the best weed on the planet is grown in BC, Sheet!. Best order it while I can

G' Day eh




Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:42 | 1129450 BigDuke6
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Thats a big call buddy - you should visit down under....

speaking of that - my usual posts at the weekend are mashed and blithering but i'm working this one so am coherent.

here is a coherent contribution on 'to big to fail' TEPCO style.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 12:58 | 1129795 Ahmeexnal
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So you feel safe at the hands of nukular experts?

What would you do if you found out those multi Ph.D. bigshots are now trying to fix the damaged nuclear reactors with...DIAPERS, SAWDUST and NEWSPAPER???  When that fails too, will you feel safe when they next attempt to seal the cracked container with DUCT TAPE??


Engineers pinned their hopes on chemicals, sawdust and shredded newspaper to stop highly radioactive water pouring into the ocean from Japan's tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant Sunday as officials said it will take several months to bring the crisis under control, the first time they have provided a timetable.

Concrete already failed to stop the tainted water spewing from a crack in a maintenance pit, and the new mixture did not appear to be working either, but engineers said they were not abandoning it.




Engineers tried to seal the crack with concrete Saturday, but that effort failed.

So on Sunday they went farther up the system and injected sawdust, three garbage bags of shredded newspaper and a polymer — similar to one used to absorb liquid in diapers — that can expand to 50 times its normal size when combined with water.


What happens when you pour a substance that expands 50 times it's normal size into a tight crevice?  Well, the answer is...YOU BUST OPEN WIDE THE CRACK!


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 16:54 | 1130363 avonaltendorf
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The "pit" is basically a big maintenance manhole 6' x 6' x 12' with an access hatch above it. They could fill the damn thing to the brim with 15 yds of concrete, but nobody wanted to get anywhere near it (+1000mSv). So they've been shooting concrete slurry and junk down a pipe at it, from 60' away. 

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 08:02 | 1129524 johnQpublic
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ok...article lacks a bit of accuracy....I-131 was found in the rain in Pa. to be 33 times safe levels, containing 40-100 picocuries per liter

therefore, its on the ground,the grass, and thats why milk in York Pa tested positive for I-131



both versions of 'on the beach' were on yesterday, and 'K-19 the widowmaker'

i think they are trying to tell us something

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:15 | 1128942 espirit
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The disaster of Chernobyl 28 years later. The effects of Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 on life.

Many people seem to believe that distance is a factor, and time is on their side. Be wary.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 22:51 | 1129098 Fred Hayek
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That's a bit much.  Background radiation just from living in Colorado is worse than what BC and WA are getting.  Should we have never allowed anyone to ever move into Colorado?

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 08:05 | 1129527 johnQpublic
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no I-131, C-137,Xenon-133 in background radiation


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:14 | 1129438 DaBernank
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And the TEPCO chief says he can head off nuclear problem in 15 minutes by having gov't raise the legal limits of radiation exposure.

Now *that* would be a classic bureaucratic solution.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 17:33 | 1130468 In Fed We Trust
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I think it's time we called Halburton.

Fuck, they likely have bought an atomic meltdown company named Rods & Tods a few months before the accident.

When the worlds on fire, who you gonna call? Hal Burton!


Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:09 | 1128595 Dr_Dazed
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If the radiation levels are really rising at "an exponential rate" then in 100 days or so the solar system becomes a binary star system right?  No more nighttime for Mercury and Venus.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:32 | 1128649 tim73
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No, Godzilla will soon beat the crap out of those bad Fukushima plants.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:45 | 1128881 carbonmutant
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Godzilla and Mothra will come to feed...

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:24 | 1128958 MsCreant
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Mmmmm...Godzilla's favorite...roasted long pig.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:07 | 1129433 Yen Cross
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That was funny. And I didn't pop you. And the person that did is on my DOO Doo list! I like MS Creant!~

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 18:56 | 1130603 carbonmutant
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Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:12 | 1128597 Selah
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the world shuts its eye

mankind's bissful ignorance

too cheap to meter


Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:37 | 1128662 HankPaulson
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well done! :)

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:03 | 1128711 Selah
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Thank you!

It's my second attempt at haiku "in real time". It's hard to reply to a ZH post and come up with an on-topic haiku in just a few minutes! I posted one over on WB7's that wasn't quite as good, but I'll add this since someone likes it.


Sun, 04/03/2011 - 10:38 | 1129654 BloodPigOnFeces
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from the mouth of babes

a child's pink chewing gums

now devoid of teeth

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:11 | 1128598 trav7777
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We need to have isotope analysis...CPM won't tell us jack; have to know the energy of the particles or gammas

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:16 | 1128617 bob_dabolina
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Just the normal shit...plutonium, strontium, caesium. They're safe though, any day now Obama's going to Fukushima to demonstrate how safe their shrimp is.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:17 | 1128737 The Profit Prophet
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So is everything OK until we get an isotope analysis Trav?  If I'm standing in a 10,000 CPM zone, should I wait for the isotope analysis before I leave?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:59 | 1128802 bbq on whitehou...
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Your right. But so far its all we got. If you could ask NASA to turn a sat or 2 twards Japan that would be swell. :)

Your a fluffy little hedgehog as long as you dont bite.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:39 | 1128869 jomama
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reading comments from someone who can't spell 'you're' burns my eyeballs.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:47 | 1129453 Yen Cross
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You spin me well. Keep the termoil up. (sp) intended.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:59 | 1128803 Ahmeexnal
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Trav: So besides being the teleprompter in chief's caddyboy, you are now also his nukular expert spokesperson?  Do us all a favour and just stick to carrying around his golfclubs, holding his cigar, and fetching his stray golfballs while keeping your stinking piehole shut.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:10 | 1129434 Yen Cross
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I know in some weird way you care. Short wave Lenghts are the most damaging.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:12 | 1128600 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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And the data for their beautiful visual report comes from what source? .gov you say?

The Jew York Times makes me feels so safe.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:33 | 1128971 MsCreant
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Judge Mental,

Biting the race bait is for suckers, keeps us all at each other's throats. Divide and conk-her.

Fun act ya got there though, gotta give you that. You stay in character pretty well.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 23:53 | 1129165 hangemhigh
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by MsCreant
on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 21:33


Judge Mental,

Biting the race bait is for suckers, keeps us all at each other's throats. Divide and conk-her.

Fun act ya got there though, gotta give you that. You stay in character pretty well.

props the point and well stated................

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 05:49 | 1129456 Yen Cross
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You test my Where with all. I will never, nor have I ever given you a negative remark. I respect your input.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:18 | 1128616 TruthInSunshine
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"...will set off every seismic counter in Tokyo"


ZH means geiger counter.


Feel free to delete this whenever, TD.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:23 | 1128629 Kitler
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Seismic counter.

Measures the seismic vibrations of the stampeding feet of those attempting to leave.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:23 | 1128630 Herman Strandsc...
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If folk all started stamping their feet and bashing their desks it could be seismic and incidentally, the earthquakes are migrating south and inland according to USGS worldwide earthquake notices;

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:28 | 1128760 franzpick
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And we're in another EQ window (around tomorrow's new moon) until next Friday or so; when you become aware of the 1-2 monthly windows around new/full moons, perigees, 6' plus west coast tides and solar CMEs, the Tepco temporizing looks even worse.


Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:28 | 1128638 tim73
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ZH just ruined a good story by telling the truth. Why did you do that?! Headless "we are all gonna die!" chickens here are not going to like this!

Well, there is always the next "we are all gonna die!"-accident.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:40 | 1128668 Monetative Easing
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Who are all these chickens you speak of?   I haven't seen many around these parts who claim that the world is ending as a result of Fukushima.

  And since you are the expert over here and TOD, are you clearly stating that this situation is entirely under control?  Are you employed in any way by nuclear energy interests?

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:08 | 1128718 tim73
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Even googling few pages about radiation and radioactivity would tell you most of the stuff written here and in many other blogs are just overhyped scaremongering. People today just seem to be here so frigging lazy despite all that information being available. 

I wonder what they would do in real emergency near home. Probably go under the bed with their "precious" iPad and starting sucking their thumbs.  

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:23 | 1128747 Monetative Easing
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What you say is true.  However, if I understand you correctly based on posts both here and TOD, you feel as if TEPCO et al have this situation under control, correct?  Your view is that beyond Fukushima, there is nothing to worry about, right?  People in Tokyo should just go about their business.  Is that your view?

 And again, are you employed or do you derive pay from the nuclear energy industry? 

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1130068 Confuchius
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All that information available...

What, exactly, "information"

Bureaucratic bullshit and ass covering?


Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:09 | 1128819 bbq on whitehou...
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Cancer in mice.

Well it seems that i-131 can cause cancer. Imagine that.

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 01:21 | 1129289 SheHunter
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Bet the fish and other marine life that inhabit the ocean near Fuk-shima are not feeling quite so smug as thee.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 18:34 | 1128652 Kitler
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I was hoping the post was April 1st.

Sat, 04/02/2011 - 19:19 | 1128745 Ahmeexnal
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And in British Columbia it's far worse.


Sat, 04/02/2011 - 20:36 | 1128858 Homey Da Clown
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And the numbers keep rising

Sun, 04/03/2011 - 00:56 | 1129246 notsomuch
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This map froze on 3/15/11, looks comparable to me.


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