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Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:44 | Link to Comment zarrmax
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Update:

-566.00  -624.00

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:07 | Link to Comment My cognitive di...
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Tock.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:45 | Link to Comment ivant
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According to my calculations, the fed should have rates somewhere at 17.325. In fact I called Bernanke the other day and he said that they will raise rates to 17.2 because the economy is weak still. The rejuvenation area is covered in green shoots, but there are a few holes in the field (that has been destroyed by plague and fire since 2007, as well as several alien encounters) that Goldman is yet to seed.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Sardonicus
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The tick measures the net sell/buy ratio of the exchange.  Usually the NYSE.  So a -624 Tick would mean a net 624 more stocks on the NYSE are being sold than bought at that moment.  Most ticks between +600 and -600 are just noise.  The bigger ones are noteworthy

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Sardonicus
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It would mean the bid got hit instead of the ask...so per my example before, a -624 Tick would mean a net 624 more stocks got the bid hit....ie sold into.  Positive ticks are the opposite.  buyers pay the ask.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Sardonicus
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those would be the extremes yes. 

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:30 | Link to Comment omi
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Number of stocks that made an uptick. Can be negative, that means that over the universe of stocks on an exchange (remember TICK is associated with an exchange) more stocks made a downtick; it can also be neutral which can either mean that stocks aren't moving at all - traders are looking at each other - or there's about the same number of stocks that made an uptick vs downtick.

It's useful to look at NYSE and NASDAQ ticks, AD (advancers - decliners) for NYSE and Nasdaq as well as Upvolume - Downvolume for both, as well as sum of upvol and downvol (to judge volume action between days)

 

Here's my 'internals' screen

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1041/internals.png

 

$Uvol overlayed with $Dvol

$ADVN-$DECN

$TICK

$UVOL-$DVOL

 

Bottom right chart is mostly usd/cad I have no idea why it's eur/usd

 

The smaller boxes on the right are time/sales data (this is what people refer to as reading the tape) showing large orders on ES (SP500 futeres) and smaller orders (many times you see them doing opposite things - small guys are essentially providing liquidity to the larger players), I also look at medium size NQ (NDX futures) and YM (DJI futues)  next box is core sectors.

hope that helps somewhat.

 

 

 

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 15:29 | Link to Comment masbay (not verified)
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:04 | Link to Comment stockoperator
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that was me...I always think I'm logged in

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 15:33 | Link to Comment Veteran
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Good read.  Thanks for the link

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:19 | Link to Comment MinnesotaNice
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That was really good and interesting...

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:18 | Link to Comment VLee
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I agree with the latter, Cash for Clunkers should spike the numbers artificially Thursday.  I plan on buying more SDS and SKF Thursday afternoon.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:39 | Link to Comment VLee
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Let's not discount what Goldman Sachs wants....  They want Ben in the driver's seat as long as possible, unless they have some other GS alum hand-picked to take his place.  BB is staying, Barry is a puppet.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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Summers is in deeper than Bernanke.  WAY deeper.

Wed, 08/12/2009 - 08:46 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:20 | Link to Comment waterdog
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That graph looks like my heartbeat after 5- six inch lines of blow.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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A very informative comment thread.

Thanks all.

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:16 | Link to Comment AnonymousMonetarist
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Tyler,

Despite best efforts was only able to decipher the prologue to the memo...

(Piacere. It is a deep and moving honor to discuss the waste mangement business with all of youze.)

(These are trying times for this thing of ours. Credit markets were saying 'va fa napole'. The Borgata was approaching a stage of crisis...)

(Let us not forget the Code of Silence. Anti-Trust violations aside... Those that go oobatz get pinched.)

(Our capo in his esteemed wisdom gave the crew a taste without excessive vig. There was initally discord on points and even unfortunately a necessary message job for those that had not in the past paid tribute. But that jamook Fuld got his, buon' anima.)

(The shylock business continues.)

(Gentleman, this Golden Age is quickly coming to an end. It is imperative upon us to complete our spring cleaning for it is possible that there might still be , despite many overtures,mannagge with the tizzun. Already the fanook is getting all chiacchierone on the shy. That NY strunz. This is causing much agita I know for there could be predicates. None of us wish to be guests of the state. This is not the time to eat alone.)

(First though, Madonn' I'm hungry ... gabagool?

Tue, 08/11/2009 - 16:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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