Bad News For Goldman: Senator Sanders Proposes Legislation Naming TBTF Firms, Demands They Be Broken Up Within A Year

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Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:27 | 122898 deadhead
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Don't worry Fed, your time is coming. There will be much greater things you need to worry about than the survival of your various Wall Street masters...Just give it some time.

Well said.


not reported yet, but Geithner has already seized the proverbial bull by the horn and broken up a TBTF named United Security in Sparta, Georgia. 

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:26 | 122901 svendthrift
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Don't worry Fed, your time is coming.


Dare to dream. Given that congress is bought, I don't know how this can happen, unfortunatley.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:29 | 122912 deadhead
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I don't know how this can happen,

* law of unintended consequences

* for every action, there is a reaction

* exogenous events

* mr. efficient market (rumors of his death have been exagerrated)

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:56 | 122924 svendthrift
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I just don't see it.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:25 | 123075 Rainman
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Yes. Sanders is a troublemaker and rabblerouser. He will be silenced. It's a National InSecurity issue.

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 11:59 | 123435 Anonymous
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If the Soviet Union can end, so can the Federal Reserve.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:31 | 122914 sysin3
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Not a problem.  Mel Watt (bought and paid for) will make sure that the bill is eviscerated.  Happy days will continue for all bankers, indefinitely.

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 15:27 | 123526 Anonymous
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Haven't your heard, GS in no longer considered TBTF, and as such, would not be affected by any such legislation.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:31 | 122915 Careless Whisper
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Props to Bernie Sanders and welcome to bizarro world, where the capitalists of wall street have become fascists, and the socialists of vermont have become capitalists.




Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:33 | 122919 ZerOhead
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Federal Reserve Governor Daniel Tarullo said Oct. 21 the idea of breaking up large institutions is impractical, calling it “more a provocative idea than a proposal.”

Provocative idea? ING, RBS, Lloyds... sounds more like a proposal to me...

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:40 | 122926 Don Smith
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Alexandria, VA - November 23, 2009 - Reuters has received word that Senator Bernie Sanders, known for his attempts at financial reforms, was found dead in his Alexandria home last night, apparently of a heart attack.  A spokesman for the Senator said that the Senator had on his calendar a dinner with an executive with Wall Street powerhouse Goldman Sachs to discuss the Senator's recent proposals...

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:21 | 122992 Cistercian
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 That's odd.I heard he commited suicide with a chainsaw.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:40 | 123090 E pluribus unum
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and aspirin

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 23:29 | 123204 Anonymous
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No, he fell on a knife 14 times

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:45 | 122928 Glen
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Like all other legislation, it'll be squashed like a day trader or be watered down worse than Gitmo detainee.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:47 | 122930 ZerOhead
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Good one!

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:52 | 122938 Anonymous
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I hope they include GE Capital while they are at it.

Also, maybe we can get these over zealous pretzel haters to attack banks:

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 18:55 | 122944 Anonymous
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Ron Paul Is Asking For Your Help, HR 1207 'Has Been Gutted'

video of paul asking you to contact specific people so bill isn't gutted.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:22 | 122962 anynonmous
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watch this clip (of all people) Maxine Waters go after Timmay on Too Big to Fail and watch him squirm at these October 29 hearings

what did he do to piss her off that she would go after him like that - in earlier hearings she fawned over him and he sucked right up - this time she just goes for the jugular


Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:08 | 123051 Careless Whisper
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Thanks for the link but where was the part where she goes for the jugular? If she really wants to break up the TBTF then she should just say so. As for Barney Frank, he is all smoke and mirrors. In the back pocket of the bankstas. Proposing a bill that does nothing and trying to bamboozle everyone in to thinking he did something.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:35 | 123081 anynonmous
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if you've ever watched Maxine in these hearings she is typically incoherent and/or talking up some special interest in her district - thus the look of stunned bewilderment on Timmay's face as she was not only aware of the concept of 2big2 fail but presisted in her demands for a list of who they are

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:41 | 123091 MsCreant
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Where is Maxine in here election cycle? Where is Barney? This might explain some "stances" folks are taking.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:10 | 122969 Anonymous
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What? Sanders didn't get his monthly "envelope" from Goldman, so he pulls this stunt? OK, so they will double whatever he was getting.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:14 | 123061 Careless Whisper
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don't even go there Anon. He doesn't take loot from the bankstas. unions, hell yeah, but no banks.


Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:12 | 122975 Anonymous
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The Fed should be included in the TBTF category and broken up, er wound down.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:13 | 122976 starfish
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Check out his PIC...hilarious...

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:17 | 123065 Careless Whisper
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dewd, we don't need eye candy. we need some politicians who will work to save our country.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:42 | 123094 E pluribus unum
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They shoulda just shown a picture of his crotch since the guy is the only one in Congress with any balls.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:14 | 122977 tom a taxpayer
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Prosecutors can break up the criminal activity at the "too big to fail" firms right now! Legislation would put the nail in the coffin, but prosecutors can act now. 

We need Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) prosecutions and mass trials in style of the Maxiprocesso (Maxi Trial) of the Mafia in Sicily during the mid-1980s that resulted in hundreds of defendants convicted. We need RICO confiscations of the hundreds of billions in illegal "profits" from the criminal enterprises of the banks, mortgage industry, and Wall Street Mafia. 


The only thing that has any hope of stopping the continual rape and pillage of the investors, pensioners, city and state funds, and taxpayers is to see the entire Wall Street crime family along with co-conspirators at the Fed, Treasury and SEC arrested and perp walked in handcuffs to federal and state jails. Now. Not a year from now.


Is there a prosecutor who is hungry for scungilli, and becoming a national hero?


Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:30 | 123006 Cistercian
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 I agree totally and I would add that unless we send the criminals to jail our economy and country are doomed.Not a poor outlook or systemic trouble but total doom.If the elite of the culture are allowed any longer to run amok, it is only a matter of time before everyone else begins to run amok as well.We are a nation of laws or....we will descend into anarchy.Speaking personally, I would prefer not to descend into an indefinite dystopian nightmare of epic proportions just so the scumbags that are robbing us all blind can continue until the system implodes, but that's just me.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:18 | 123067 tom a taxpayer
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Yes, prosecution is the first priority. Prosecution and hard time for Wall Street criminals.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:25 | 123001 Anonymous
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Does he really need 90 days identify them and new regulations.
There should some organization able to file for anti trust laws right instead of only govt?

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 19:34 | 123015 tjfxh
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The Fed should be either public or private, not a "quasi-governmental institution," run by financiers chiefly in their own interests. Since there is no way to make a government's central bank private since it has the power to issue currency, it must be public. While I don't trust politicians any more than I trust banksta's, at least politicians are accountable to the public in regular elections.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:06 | 123048 Anonymous
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Or third option: non-existent.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:03 | 123047 cocoablini
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Goldman is a piece of work. Now they get the swine flu drug before hospitals??


By MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Some big Wall Street banks are girding against the swine flu, but a flap over how the firms got the vaccine will make them miserable.

The public is outraged about reports that Citi /quotes/comstock/13*!c/quotes/nls/c (C 4.06, 0.00, 0.00%) , Goldman Sachs Group Inc. /quotes/comstock/13*!gs/quotes/nls/gs (GS 172.00, +0.22, +0.13%) and Morgan Stanley /quotes/comstock/13*!ms/quotes/nls/ms (MS 32.59, -0.01, -0.03%) along with other big New York employers, received hundreds, even thousands, of H1N1 vaccine doses before hospitals and other healthcare providers, many of which have run out of the precious drug. See full story.



A spokeswoman for New York City's Department of Health said firms like Goldman are important outlets for reaching at-risk adults.

Clearly someone from the health department should visit a hospital or doctor's office. They might discover that those are also excellent places to reach sick people or those at-risk.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:10 | 123055 Careless Whisper
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because they run the government silly.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:30 | 123079 tom a taxpayer
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Will this be the final outrage...the 10-ton straw that breaks the back of Wall Street?

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:47 | 123100 MsCreant
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Goldman Sachs, Citi, etc. are pigmen, swine. Of course they need to be treated first!!

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 23:37 | 123207 Anonymous
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Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:09 | 123052 Anonymous
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Geithner, Paulson et al only needed about a minute and a half to determine who was owed by birthright as much money as children yet unborn could ever hope to pay. Indeed, Paulson threatened Financial Armageddon if his three page draft memo demanding $700 billion was not signed in a day.

Seems to me 90 days is rather generous. That being said, just as the Bloomberg FOIA request will not be settled until the Second Coming (or First depending on your own particular superstition), Geithner will get this extended at least until he reaches puberty and has his growth spurt.

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:41 | 123092 bonddude
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No fuckin' chance, sorry.

"Got you in a stranglehold baby, better cross your legs !"-Ted Nugent

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 20:42 | 123093 Glen
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Quote from Rupert Murdoch in todays Weekend Australian/Herald Sun: "(President) Obama actually wants to cut the even more exclusive G8 to a G4 - and really, to a G2; just the US and China,"

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 21:09 | 123116 Rainman
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Aussies are getting perky of late. Rupert is their Buffett. I think they like watching Big Bro walk into a wall. Dysfunction is ugly....but amusing nonetheless. 

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 03:18 | 123310 Glen
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That's the problem when your have a PM like ours running around the world stage getting his capabilities mixed up with his ambitions. 

Fri, 11/06/2009 - 21:46 | 123140 Anonymous
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Here's the thing: I have have little to no respect for anything manufactured by GM, but if I ever heard about a car salesman who made $750,000 in commissions selling Chevys or Buicks I'd say, "Way to go, brother; somebody's got to move those chassis." But in the case of Goldman et al. what are they really moving other than the "currency" of pixels and bytes?

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 00:49 | 123247 Anonymous
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You people are lost! CIT is the test subject. The only way to eliminate CDO's and CDS from the Banks portfolio is through a pre-packaged BK. C is next. C is next......

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 10:00 | 123390 Anonymous
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I just like how he talks to them like they are 1st graders.
This is how the economy works, don't fuck with it... trust me. It's actually horrible how well he skates their questions.

"C is in TROUBLE." What are you suggesting they do? Uhhhh I would be happy to go in detail as would the chairman of the fed and go thru exactly the conditions that have been put on a range of institutions. To make sure they emerge from this safer through this not relying on taxpayer money. but I wanna emphasize one IMPORTANT thing, since I came into this offer we've had 70B in cap. come back through the system. (Isn't that like 1/10th of TARP?)

"Do you have a list?"(of bad institutions) I do not have a defined list today.

"In this legislation, do you have the authority to bail out?" No.

"Describe what you have?" I have the authority to separate the bad from the good. To sell the good businesses, what happens to the bad?

What if they're all bad?

I like how he talks about a bailout authority for i-banks without a taxpayer loss, and he makes it sound like he's shooting for an FDIC guarantee but they shouldn't pay for it up front.... REALLY?

I'm moving to Canada.

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 11:02 | 123411 Anonymous
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Daines, the Head of Health and Human Services for the state of NY mandated seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccinations for all NY healthcare workers. Healthcare workers revolted. Additionally a NY radio personality uncovered the fact that Daines wife works for GS. Enough said.

Sat, 11/07/2009 - 18:28 | 123590 Racer
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In tomorrow's Sunday Times

"'I'm doing God's work.' Meet Mr Goldman Sachs"

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