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It may not be 12k RPM.... but it's better than nothing.
Courtesy of BATRacer’s ‘Pieczar’.
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The red M60a3 has 759 bhp@2400 rpm, top speed over 30mph
Check out the pit crew at front inspecting tread wear.
+1 .....inspired photo, you'd never see that in the NY Times!!
+2 good one.
+3 Very good one, Dapper Dan. (especially the treadware comment!)
Tanks unsupported by infantry? Suicide.
blitzkrieg didnt use infantry support
and it was pretty effective
Before the day of shoulder-mounted anti-tank weapons, with a range greater than 50m.
sorry to say, but yes german infantry rode on the german tanks and then dismounted when the enemy was sited. german tanks would roll over what ever was in their way, then the infantry would mop up isolated pockets of the enemy still remaining. that worked until everyone started doing the same tactics......than it became a numbers game and how fast the germans could shoot. history says they didn't shoot fast enough!
What finally stopped the German tanks was the fact that the US could manufacture two Sherman tanks for every Panzer. If we were in that situation today, we'd be fucked because we don't have the mfg facilities here any more.
Maybe China will sell us some cheap tanks? I wonder if they'd fit into those shipping containers? It might even boost the BDI. Woo... a win-win.
i think you dont want to ride into battle on a chinese tank. they could come apart at first use. perhaps they wouldnt even survive the transport. but hey they are cheap
We, and the Russians, and the British, were manufacturing a lot more than two tanks for every German tank, and a lot more than two antitank guns or antitank bazookas or antitank attack aircraft rockets, etc.
"Brute Force", by Ellis will give you a sense of how badly the Germans were outbuilt and out fueled and outgunned and outmanned.
You might want to double check your knowledge/sources
Time to go long RPGs.
Why rpgs? Hezbollah blew the shit out of merkevas recently with some improved missiles...
And some well-placed mines. And a baiting tactic. And some stupid Israelies to fall for it.
I am Chumbawamba.
"According to Merkava tank program administration figures, missiles penetrated 22 tanks, killing 23 crewmen. The missiles in these cases were heavy Russian-made RPG 29, Kornet E, Metis-M, and Concourse missiles, used by Hizbullah. These are tandem missiles, with a double warhead that can penetrate the Merkava’s reactive armor and steel plates 70-90 cm thick."
When are you invading Lebanon again, oh vaunted IDF? Hizballah's missles and mines await ye anew.
I am Chumbwamba.
Why invade when one can nuke? Dead civilizations fire no rockets.
Hizbullah is a military joke and PC ROE are the only thing that saved them.
If you're going to use that tactic, you'd better be 100% sure that your victim isn't able to nuke back.
Or you have a functioning ABM system in place. (and plenty of shots)
You have that exactly backwards.
The IDF is a joke, and the only thing that saved them is the United Nations with US backing.
Next time, they won't be so lucky.
>>The IDF is a joke
Underestimating your opponent again. How like a typical Arab. I never said they were the good guys. The reason the IDF keeps kicking the assess of the unorganized militia units all over the place is that they are a professional, disciplined military unlike the shitbirds out of uniform screaming arabic and dying for their god.
And just like the SS, they may be bad guys in your eyes but underestimate their ability to kill your ass at your peril.
Oh, but isn't that what the IDF was guilty of in 2006: underestimating their opponent? So sad. So very sad. Why don't you direct your counsel towards Ehud, since he's really the one who needs it?
As far as the IDF, I probably over-estimate them. What can one really expect of a so-called "army" that's been beating up little kids and shooting unarmed protesters in the back for the past two decades?
Hizballah displayed as much discipline and professionalism in that epic ass-kicking as the IDF has ever been able to muster. Hizballah units held their ground; Israeli soldiers ran screaming like little girls back towards the border.
Also, Hizballah was considered a "non-state actor" by Israel and the US at the time. 121 IDF dead vs. 250 Hizballah (outnumbered more than 3-to-1) killed. How is it that a "non-state actor" sent one of the world's supposedly most formidable armies running for their lives back across the border? I'll tell you how: spending decades playing army against 13-year olds with slings.
You undermine your credibility by not knowing jack shit of what you speak.
History of real wars with Israel.
1948, 1956 ,1967, 1973 (all victories) + 200 nukes.
Hizbullah, Gaza, Hamas and the West Bank go away when the IDF and Israel decide to accept the political fallout / price of exterminating them like bugs.
And there is nothing the non-state actors will be able to do about it.
Sorry your arab-sympathetic mind cant wrap itself around those facts.
You mean, if it comes to that you won't be standing in front of an Israeli tank to show your feelings? Oh, the humanity.
Agreed SWRichmond esp. in an urban setting. Camels would be better; but you saw how the camels got dealt with - approach it from the sides.
Send enough of your army out in pressure-cookers with wheels, they see a few of their comrades roasted alive and they do a 180 and point their barrels back to the govt. buildings LOL.
The Trojan sponsored tank (just out of view) is supporting the infantry.
The Trojan sponsored tank (just out of view) is supporting the infantry.
"We will expel American imperialists from our homeland!!!!!
that tank is CHERRY RED!!!!!!
RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!!!!"
question is, can the iranian gov't secure Schumacher as a driver?
I wonder if we could get jacques villeneuve in the other tank and the nazi could try and wreck him over and over to save the championship? (to no avail).
Whatever. Eat my ass. Here is a video for you junkers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgfuoSFerDU
I got $100 on the Red Ferrari. I assume we are measuring something other than top speed through the protesters.....right?
Well there's style points, you've played armorgeddon right?
Because red makes it go FASTER!!
Is this a joke or is that for realz?
You need to get out more often
Iranian forces now battling protestors across the country.
I don't see an M1 Abrams there, but if they had one, their engines turn much more than 12,000 rpm...
That is too funny! I like the sponsors.
(Silver hit over $34 already)
I'm putting my money on Hamilton & Mercedes.
Looks like Schumacher is slightly ahead with Hamilton closing. Ross Brawn did say he would come back this season with a winning vehicle for Mercedes GP.
No, that is Nico.
Luckily Schuey did not get seriously hurt in that very dangerous wreck he had with Liuzzi the last time there was a Middle East F1 race (Abu Dhabi).
Bahrain GP is normally a snooze fest. Hopefully they'll allow the protesters in.
Is BUD the sponsor....????
That is really funny in a sad/funny way.
Brilliantly done though.
Nobody wants to hang out in a burning tank.
Hamilton could really run over the other drivers with that Merc!
yes, i read an article stating this potential, a while back. the "circus" won't be cuming to the near middle east. they just had a large pro bicycle race in Oman.
that is the funniest picture yet, coming out of the war zone. hey, where is Virgin Atlantic? sir branson and crew haven't been doing to well lately. tough circus to crack.
the only way LOTUS could be in that pic is if they were getting lapped
The subject matter is serious, but I did think the picture is inspired!
Its too bad that the elite will have to forgo F1 this year. The sacrifices these guys make.
'Big connection between unrest and F1'
"The race has been the prince's dream since he was a child," Hasan Dhani, a 23-year-old protester, said. "He wants to negotiate so he can fulfill this dream, and it makes me sad that his dream is more dear to him than the needs of his people."
Another elitist dream crushed. He is probably nursing his sorrows in Europe with caviar and Ukraine hookers.
If I remember, there is a massive amount of debt associated with F1. If it was restructured with the best case scenario in terms of growth, they are in for a ride. I wonder if they took out insurance... Could be the beginning of the end for them.
edit- wow, the F1 soap opera never ends http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-16/kickback-investigation-tests-cvc-s-romance-with-formula-one-s-ecclestone.html
Needs a sound track.
Expect some *Carmageddon*
and the US Army sponsors a Nascar entry?
10 gallons to the mile.
No, 10 gallons
wow lotus has made significant improvements.
WW III in Color!
Don't know where that 12K RPM number comes from but rev limiters in F1 are set at 18K.
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