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We present two rather amusing research reports by then-Merrill Lynch Securities Broker/Dealer analyst Guy Moszkowski, discussing Lehman Brothers. Just because with financial analysts like this, who needs a shotgun Bank of America bail out. Oh yeah, Merrill. We also present a soundbite by Fox Pitt Kelton "analyst" David Trone, who, based on his extensive experience determines that David Einhorn, who nailed Lehman, is "looking at data from an inexperienced standpoint; investment banks are very complicated." Oh yes David, indeed they are. In fact, please give us your mailing address, so we can dispatch this particular piece of literature you so richly deserve.

First - an upgrade from Neutral to Buy in early June 2008.

 

 

Second - an upgrade from Underweight to Neutral on September 8, 2008 a week before the bankruptcy.

 

And the piece de resistance: the question of how Fox Pitt Kelton did not need a bail out as well. Note the "insight" by FPK "analyst" David Trone at 5:15 into this CNBC clip, which also shows how skeptics like Einhorn are usually spot on in the long-run. Let us paraphrase: any bet against the sustainability of the US ponzi will eventually pay off infinitely (even if that means the end of the world, thank you Hank Paulson and the entire Mutual Assured Destruction demolition crew). (h/t to Berlinjames02 for video).

 

 


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Sat, 03/13/2010 - 00:34 | Link to Comment Chopshop
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those who had buys on LEH instead of being in the to death or zero do it part column ought have some kinda asterisk on their U-5 or similar historical record.  such is simply beyond anal-ytically egregious.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 00:43 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Heh....

Never underestimate the determination of the penny stock Riverboaters....

They are still gunning Lehman Bros. and Washington Mutual.

"Hey, if it goes up just .01% I can make a 100% gain!!"

Here's a closeup of Friday's action in WaMu.  It actually traded 235 million shares.

LOL...

 

 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 15:16 | Link to Comment deadhead
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re: wamu...like how it was taken down pre JPM/WAMU settlement then some lucky buyers got in as settlement was being announced....

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 00:46 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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ARS asking Einhorn whether or not Einhorn is talking his book is ironic considering ARS's spent most of TBTF's 600 pages characterizing Dick Fuld as a "tragic figure" (more like a fucking psychopath).

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 08:01 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Another fine example of what will make this report a timeless reflection of our age. Dick Fuld, the tragic icon of Wall Street.

Right is wrong now
Shut up you big lie
This black and white lie
You comb your hair to hide
Your lying eyes - Dave Matthews

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 01:45 | Link to Comment faustian bargain
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any bet against the sustainability of the US ponzi will eventually pay off infinitely

That crystallizes my thoughts perfectly...thank you. I wish I had come up with that on my own; I like to think I would have eventually.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 03:03 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Because With Research "Analysts" Like These Who Needs [assholes]

 

Why does Einhorn still look 12?  I'm envious.

In that clip I saw someone who knew exactly what he was talking about educating people who were asking questions about things they knew nothing about.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 05:27 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 15:18 | Link to Comment deadhead
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Of course, "eventually" is a bitch of a word

maybe even a greater "greatest zh quote ever". !!!!

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 06:41 | Link to Comment ratava
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banksters have a lot in common with priests, they complicate the simple stuff and simplify the complicated. and they bad touch little boys

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 06:45 | Link to Comment jmf
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Moin from Germany,

don´t forget the "famous Lehman Brothers (LEH)
Hostile Takeover?
" call from the still omnipresent Dick Bove...

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008/08/22/15320/the-bove-note-on-lehman-in-full/

"Will it happen? I do not know. Should it happen? Absolutely, opportunities like this are rarely evident in the markets."

Make sure that you don´t miss the chart with his time table & his recommendations......

 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 06:51 | Link to Comment jmf
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Moin again,

"Adding shareholder value at its best"

http://immobilienblasen.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-want-my-buyback-backlehman-edition.html

In the 13 quarters from the end of that year through this year’s first quarter — that is, before the new $2.8 billion loss — Lehman reported net income of $11.9 billion, and spent $11.8 billion on share repurchases.

It paid an average price of $62.19 for shares that dropped under $23 after the shake-up was announced.

 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Miyagi_san
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Bove..."Serving the smart money since 1876"....Yeah, dead and buried but still collecting commissions

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 08:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 03/13/2010 - 09:20 | Link to Comment deadhead
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I think ML (BAC) is still doing a cut and paste job of these reports for today's crew of bank junkers.

Repeat: anybody buying US bank common now is a marginal buyer (along with the Fed) in the biggest Ponzi scheme of the last one hundred years.  The bank sell siders are in desperation mode to get people to buy their common.  The meth fueled hype by the "analysts" and "strategists" right now is despicable.  They are giving the impression to the public that bank are completely healed, all is well, and the stocks will double, triple. Anybody who cannot see the near insolvent (and in some cases downright insolvent) status of the US banking system has spent more time watching American Idol than participating in financial markets as well as study the last couple of hundred years of economic and financial history.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 09:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Crummy
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That's a bit like saying Issac Newton was wrong because Superman can fly.

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 05:11 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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like it.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Sisyphus
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And remove the FED from this entire equation, and all the names you list above will looking like, I don't know, God? You think this market can sustain itself without the FED. You know what I have realized, bulls are like sidekicks of bullies at school - they feed on the crumbs left behind by their masters and think they are smart and invincible. Actually, they are the weakest of them all. On their own they are wussies.

And you know who the bully is, you guessed it right, the FED. Remove the FED and all those bulls, i mean sidekicks, will wet their pants and go running back to their basements.

 

Sun, 03/14/2010 - 05:51 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 10:13 | Link to Comment Brokenarrow
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Einhorn is an industry god.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 10:22 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Einhorn: "The significance of this point is much larger." "Why did the values change after the conference call?" "What does that imply for the internal controls?"

He obviously suspected they were cookin' the books. Props to Einhorn.

 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 10:57 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 11:21 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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I wouldnt want to be in the crosshairs of Greenlight Capital, I wonder who the Big backers of his fund are? 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 03/13/2010 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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There was a time when CNBC was more than fluff?  You're kidding.

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 03/13/2010 - 21:30 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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Einhorn's short position was up a few hundred Million by June of 08, he was in the drivers seat.  Brilliant.  Lehman was 60 in 07. Half that by June of 08.

I would field some cnbc bozo question also..The Market was proving him right.

He won't be getting invited to any Dinners at the Greek PM house though.. :)

 

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 22:03 | Link to Comment harveywalbinger
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Einhorn's just another Wall St player.  If only we could deploy the one function our gubmint is good at (turn the Marines loose to clean up Wall St & let God sort em out).  

Sat, 03/13/2010 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sun, 03/14/2010 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Mark Beck
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If I may, let me expand on the financial report realitive to the conference call facts, and we get, as described in the clip, Discrepancies.

But, at some point, when the numbers diverge too much we should just call it a non-truth, or better yet a LIE. The accountants should have had their 10-Q position firmly established and a one-pager presented to upper management before any conference call to share holders.

Lets add it up. The financials are spasmodic, and the quarter conference call data has huge descrepancies with the filing. In the clip it shows the ignorance of some members on the panel, that financial facts can some how be brushed aside as irrelavent in terms of judging the companies health. In the end, the filing and conference call data is all we really have. This pragmatic look at the facts, is what should guide us in understanding the true financial position of a corporation or a country.

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So this brings me to the heart of the matter. Trust in the financials is the corner stone of equity investing. More importantly, the ability to guage corporate health is a neccesity in promoting private sector economic growth. To openly corrupt this "trust" through meddling with FASB and not addressing off-balance-sheet derivative positions obviously designed to hide capital requirements, illustrates the economic ignorance of our policy makers.

Also interesting is that during periods of economic hardship we have Banks (well some banks) out performing other sectors of the economy. How is this possible? Especially, for a support industry which is reluctant to provide loans (their main product?), and the industry is touted as one of the fasted growing sectors (financials).

Well this is all very suspect. It is as suspect as pretending a heavily sided consumer economy is sustainable. That is, looking towards the consumer to spend without considering how, in economic terms, they received a fair or even flat wage growth relative to real inflation.

The facts speak for themselves, if we only take the time to listen.

Mark Beck

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