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Berlin Conference 2.0: Russia To Bail Out Hyperinflationary Belarus As Colonization Scramble Heats Up

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Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:08 | 1339348 Caviar Emptor
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Drug pushers are so 20th century. 

Debt pushers are so much cooler 

Hey, kid, have some money...you know you want it....it'll make you feel cool, strong, invincible! All the other kids will drool....and that hot chick will want you....go on, whaddya got to lose? The first loan is on me .......till Tuesday....

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:14 | 1339372 Cleanclog
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Excellent CE!

How long until Hungary, Romania, Moldava, Estonia, Slovakia and Bulgaria get the 'ol Russian bailout?  Only Poland and the Czech Republic will escape being sucked back into the Iron Curtain - can you say Comecon Countries?  Can't really use Warsaw Pact if Poland doesn't go back in.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:28 | 1339397 Caviar Emptor
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That's the plan, buried somewhere deep inside the Kremlin.....Operation Moscow Phoenix

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 17:57 | 1339951 Hulk
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and Putin is the man who can pull it off...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 20:56 | 1340260 Enceladus
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John Maudlin has a piece from last week about 'Visegard' the Polish 'Nato'. It talks about how lines are being drawn in Eastern Europe. He gets it from Stratfor.



~ Linda Green

Polish Ambasador to Danzig

BOA Senior VP

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 04:57 | 1340751 globalcapital
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Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:11 | 1339364 falak pema
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now you see where the new empires will emerge : the Russia/Germany/Turkey axis that will solidify around Russia's gas reservoir. As for PIGS and Bella....they are toast and part of slave empire of the new oligarchic europe. We see how the Oligarchy will now move to proscribe civil liberties by financial means rather than war! 

See the new paradigm as it emerges...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:19 | 1339381 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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My thinking is there will be no first and third worlds, only one big second world where the US, Japan, and Europe share their lush lifestyles that they created on the back of worthless fiat currencie with the rest.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:56 | 1339463 Crab Cake
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FWIW The notion of "worlds" applies to economy... First is Capitalist, second is Communist, and third world is unaffiliated with either bloc. Technically there hasn't been a "world" structure since China flipped to capitalism, bastardized though it is. Third world at this point is just slang for poor, or IMF/WB bitch. At any rate...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:19 | 1339378 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Back in the USSR! 

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:27 | 1339395 tmosley
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More likely the USCR.

They have found capitalism to be a bit more sustainable than communism, at least, when practiced (rather than simply preached, as in the US these days).

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:36 | 1339560 The_Euro_Sucks
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Iam sure you ment corporatism being more stable then communism and still benefitting the same group of people. In my opinion this soap has nothing to do with capitalism. Capitalism, brrr having to take the losses yourself instead of being able to socialise them. Horror, a governement (aka the enforcer) having to live within its means and so on.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 15:37 | 1339724 marsovka
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actually is equally fucked up as communism. Happened before like the Great depression.

You know why FDR did all those socialist things and arrested banksters.

Guess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 19:38 | 1340149 mynhair
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I bet on the USOR, the United Soviet Oil Recipients.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:22 | 1339386 spanish inquisition
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Wow.... Everyone is going to have to print a lot more money to help with the bailouts..

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:33 | 1339411 Caviar Emptor
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Piles and piles of worthless cash....what does the fox see in the chicken coop that looks yummmy? 

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:33 | 1339419 Franken_Stein
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It's funny that you blame Germany for annexing Greece, which is a blatant lie.


Not only is it not Germany, but German banks,

not only is it not only German banks, but also French and British banks, who, interestingly are never mentioned in all of this,

not only is it a small power elite in Germany, France, Britain, Luxembourg and Brussels of course, providing the political framework, while the populace has no say in it,

not only is Merkel acting on behalf of the people in the CfR, who see the EU as just a stepstone on the erection of the New World order.


But that is probably too much diligence to ask for.


And regarding Putin:


Belarus was never economically viable.

I've never understood why they separated from Russia.

Until today Russian is spoken there, Russian culture is dominant there.

And Putin can't be that much worse than Lukashenko.


And why shouldn't Putin be allowed to do what the U.S. is doing on a daily basis with totally foreign countries, both linguistically and culture-wise ?


Belarus is Russia's backyard and even once belonged to the SU to 100 %.


The U..S. is not the only country allowed to illegally invade and conquer sovereign states.

It's not their God given right and the people in Washington learn that better sooner than later.


There's nothing good about America spreading "democracy".

It's just a euphemism for dominance and the installation of the Rothschild central banking system and access to natural resources of course.


So why is it bad when Russia does it and good when America does it ?


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:38 | 1339434 Caviar Emptor
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I think the historical analogy you're looking for that's more accurate to describe who's really benefitting from money lending in foreign nations is the British and Dutch East India Company. So-called capitalism hiding colonialist expansion and resource extraction through debt slavery. 

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:57 | 1339471 magpie
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At least with the re-amalgamation Lukashenko might have a chance to be Putin's handpicked successor.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:18 | 1339529 hamurobby
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In the good old days it was roll in the tanks, now its roll in the banks.

Its imperialism either way.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:46 | 1339597 Founders Keeper
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[...now its roll in the banks.]---hamurobby

Good one!


Mon, 06/06/2011 - 01:44 | 1342609 Moonrajah
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Who needs carpet bombing anymore? Today it's carpet banking.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:46 | 1339598 kito
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everything he said except for the stale rothschild conspiracy argument.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 19:44 | 1340168 TK7936
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Even if you could blame en entire population -Germany is just beating everyone at there own game. They kicked out this system 1933 and as a result of loosing the war got it reinforced 1949. So there really is noone to blame there, atleast they tried something different.Its up to all the cheerers of the Ponzy Gods now too clean up the mess. Germany can sit back and watch what happens, if things get to hot, they can just devalue the euro and compensate through exports, which is what a Greek default would insure.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:36 | 1340637 Dirt Rat
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So why is it bad when Russia does it and good when America does it ?


I'll bite. It's that old us-vs-them tribal mentality. When we do it, it's the greatest act of heroism. When they do it, it's the worst act of dastardly cowardice.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:34 | 1339423 Oh regional Indian
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The great "scam" that was the collapse of Russia is now laid bare!

Only now the "dynasty" is secure...nice moves!



Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:35 | 1339427 alexwest
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idiot putin plays w. mathches

only idiots who read about Russia in western papers in artciles written same idiots think Russia is stable..

Russian consolidated budget is ~550-600 bln $$$, not chump change , bigger then japan's ( japan has 1 trln $ budget , but prints half of it ),, so problem is


its only matter of time before oil before be down to 50$, so suddenly Russian budget wont get 25-30% revenues (as it was in 2008/9), so deficit will be 150-200bln per year..


M2 in Russia is around 700 bln $, but gold/hard currency reserves are ~500 bln, so as soon as crisis come up, there will be huge flight from rubles into eur/$, so currency will collapse 50-100% ( same in Belarus, only bigger by factor 100x)

there's HUGE INFLATION problem in Russia, official rate is around 8.5-9%, in reality life as is in every country is much dearer.. inflation is probably 15-18%, so there's no much trust in rubles, as long as currency rates ( rubles/$ , euro) are stable, fine, but as soon as oil get down, russian will take rubles from banks and put into hard currencies/real estate/gold, so banking systems will collapse too.. it did in 1998, and almost happened in 2008/9.

+++ there's huge external debt ,more than 500 bln $,



Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:52 | 1339462 Jack Burton
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  I can agree Russia is resource price dependent. The only question is will oil decline to the extent needed to trigger financial problems in the kremlin budget.

The external debt, 500 Billion dollars? Who holds it and when was it issued?

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:56 | 1340985 alexwest
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only oil decline will trigger..
goverment /consumer /mortgage debt does not exist..

#external debt

its private debt taken by private companies, mostly in oil/metals sector and banks.. I'd call it quasi-goverment debt cause biggest oil/gas companies and banks in RUssia pretty much do what Putin/goverment want , such as Gazprom, Russia RailSystem (RGD), Sberbank (biggest bank), BTV bank, LukOil, Rosneft ec,,

russia is cooked

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 13:59 | 1339476 Segestan
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Hey.. stop telling these stupid western Marxist the truth. You're destroying a wet dream.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:12 | 1339507 Cheeky Bastard
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Read "The return of History and End of Dreams" by Kagan, where he discusses and exposes the geo-economical repositioning into blocks. Main blocks being Sino-Pacific (ex-Japan), Anglo-American (USA, Canada, UK, Japan), EU, Russia (and former soviet states in Central Asia, as well as in Europe), and most surprisingly India and Middle Eastern oil producers, and Brazil as well. In short he acknowledges that while geo-politics ruled in the past 2000 years, when it came to international relations, now, without any ideological dialectics (in political context) the next dialectical field is geo-economics. How this relates to this particular situation where Russia bails out Belarus is that blocks will operate independently with the dominant country taking the role of supra-national institutions that have so far provided assistance to countries. This will not only be restricted to economic influence, but also military interventions (read the latest statements made by Russian foreign minister about Libyan situation) etc etc. In short, as this crisis progresses, you will see more and more "independent geo-economic structures" each with their own cultural identity (which is non-existent in the ideology of of liberal capitalism), military laws etc etc. This in turn will help in dethroning USA from it's position of the "World's Policeman", because it's access to resources to maintain such foreign policy will be severely reduced. Anyway, a good book to read if one wishes to gain insight into future geo-economic trends (especially with China and Russia establishing themselves as equals to US).

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:17 | 1339519 magpie
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On a related note, i was just taking Geopolitics for Poltroons and Dummies, seeing how the DVD regions decreased from 8 to the three Blu-Ray Großraums, plus China's very own standard sphere.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:52 | 1339630 dark pools of soros
Sat, 06/04/2011 - 16:37 | 1339824 BorisTheBlade
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This makes Fukuyama very sad.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 19:40 | 1340157 mynhair
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Elena Kagan can write?  O, 'he..'

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:13 | 1339509 kaiten
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Belarus first, Ukraine next.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:25 | 1339540 digalert
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Isn't Belarus on the Obama/Nato regime change hit list?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:36 | 1339561 Franken_Stein
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For any German Chancellor there are now 3 options:


1. You go the "Atlantic way": Westwards leaning, i.e. become a CfR/Chatham House whore (Kohl, Merkel)

2. You go the "Continental way": Eastwards leaning, i.e. become a Kremlin whore (Brandt, Schröder)

3. You go the "Silk road": Eastwards leaning, i.e. become a Zhongnanhai whore (none until today)


1. U.S. influence is militarily/financial.

2. Russia influence is energy-wise.

3. China influence is trade-wise/financial.

4. Turkey/Middle East influence is demographical.


So Germany is the place where cultures clash.


Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:39 | 1339583 kaiten
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Gee, and where is option 4, the real option: EU?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:43 | 1339599 magpie
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Option 5, slowly implode on your own, going Japanese.

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 01:50 | 1342615 Moonrajah
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Fiscal harakiri, prolonged for extra pleasure...

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:51 | 1339625 ike
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Belarus economy is fine. There is extreme pressure from the West now, becouse they are printing money like crazy.

This is just decoupling shock. 

All economic analysis now is like: Moody, S&P or so

But soon will be: Argentina has 40 mil people and 50 mil cattle

EU27 is 500 million but just 20 mil cattles




Sat, 06/04/2011 - 14:59 | 1339647 magpie
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So how much cattle does Belarus have ?

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 16:42 | 1339843 Hulk
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several million Belarus blues...

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 01:53 | 1342619 Moonrajah
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Um, judging from the way things are it is safe to state that EU has 520 mil.cattle, but only 20 million of them are of animal origin.

On the other hand all 520 million are edible given the right circumstances and spices, so all's not that bad.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 15:22 | 1339683 FOREX loop.
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People just dont get it. I guess they just want to be oblivious to whats going down around us.

This guy has a good take on it


Personally I think we are going straight for a cliff because the masses are to stupid, and the elite are to greedy to slow down.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 16:51 | 1339851 onlooker
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What a pleasant surprise. Hope to see you more often.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 16:50 | 1339854 falak pema
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When USA goes south, Germany will go east... and EU will follow... The economic centre of gravity of the world moves east... forget USSR and communism...see the rise of the new Oligarchy...it will not be USA centric...that is the trend as the USa is determined to go into a tail spin for the next ten years...By then, the writing will be on the wall and we will know which way the cookie crumbles for the rest of the century...or at least  its first fifty years...lets stay humble...in our predictions...The tragedy is that western civilization is losing its grip on the world...as the Oligarchs are not the people; just an empty shell of dying values, the dregs of the new house of the Atreus.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 17:50 | 1339934 magpie
Sat, 06/04/2011 - 19:58 | 1340189 Fiat Money
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yes, the Neo-Con "of, by & For Goddamn Sachs & the war lobby"  traitor bastards



have SABOTAGED America's ENTIRE industrial/production economy, so they can wallow in SHORT TERM profits... and when THAT little rubinite/summers/paulson scam BLEW UP, they (via bribed & bought congress-critters & pres-i-dents) went straight to DIRECT TAXPAYER EXTORTION ("bailouts") and SERIAL   back-door THEFT of savings & wealth (by Greenspan/Bernanke/Geithner's "FREE MONEY FOR BANKSTERS...  DEBT & DEBASED MONEY for you peons!" "Liquidity Injections" & QE 1,2, 3...)  


   Now, the rest of the world would have eventually CAUGHT UP with America's technology, industrial production, & higher education system... the Goddamn-Sachs uber alles crowd just ACCELERATED that losing race (for USA)  by 2 decades, while SABOTAGING our ENERGY PROGRESS, so to make us MORE DEPENDENT on fossil fuel (which MONOPOLY CARTEL is the BASIS of their oil/petro-dollar  Fed oligopoly trust)



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