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Bernanke Confirms That The Key Goal Of The Fed, And QE2, Is To Boost Stock Prices

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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:12 | 698271 FEDbuster
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Benny "Bubbles" Bernanke the bankster's best buddy:


"I will try again to blow a bubble that will last all day!"

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:59 | 698407 morkov
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the owners of the means of production get higher value for their harware??

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 06:04 | 698860 Instant Karma
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Was waiting for markets response to Election and QE2. During US trading, not much. However, overseas, it's meltup. Dollar slide. Commodities meltup.

Time to deploy cash into a combination of stocks and commodity ETFs.

Have already accumulated physical metals.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 06:42 | 698883 nmewn
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Been watching it too.

It's unfortunate we have to play the stock game by their irrational rules.

Set the alarm clock for the first week of December...that should be enough time for them to get it to the trough of B ;-)

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:33 | 698903 Xedus129
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What are you talking about, the recovery is underway! /end sarcasm

On a more serious note, they did a number on gold yesterday I hope some people got in before the 25$ shoot up this AM

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 10:40 | 699401 BigJim
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Could someone please explain to me how increasing the money supply can lead us out of recession/depression when the fundamental problem is that leveraged asset values are out of whack with fundamentals, because the fractional reserve banking system has goosed their price?

For a recovery, either the asset prices have to come down (further deflation) or the cost of unleveraged goods (commodities, labour) has to rise (inflation)... or a mix of both. They're not allowing much deflation, so we're left with inflation.

How can people like Bernanke not see this? Or is it purely because he's primarily interested in meeting the needs of his shareholders (the private commercial banks), and he doesn't give a flying fuck about the economy as a whole?

Am I missing something here?

I saw what I thought was a very nice explanation for how the US$ will collapse in the ft, written by one "Viji Varghese":

I apologise if it's a bit long but I'd love the people here to comment on its logic:

"Lets face the facts here. This government's debt is 100% of GDP and the bloodletting has no end in sight. With a yearly fiscal budget shortfall of about 10% the Fed is purchasing TREASURIES in order to cover the shortfall on the government balance sheet. Thus they are fulfilling two objectives; one, help the government maintain aggregate supply levels (price of goods and services) and two, support asset prices in order to prevent any further deflationary erosion ( Like Realestate). So in the Feds calculations if you stabilize aggregate supply levels and prevent erosion of assets values you in turn would create an economic recovery, right?! WRONG!!

Now follow closely to what I am about to say. We have never recovered from the September 2008 crash. All this talk about a “double dip” is a moot point as we never clawed our way from the first dip. The economy is as it has been for the last two years; heading down, no matter what all the talking heads on radio and TV say. For you see in trying to perform the same techniques which were applied with the crash of 1929 and 1933; the Fed has exhausted its cache of stimulus tools. They have done nothing and they have nothing left. After pumping trillions into stimulus plans, and trillions to improve balance sheets of the “Too Big to Fail” banks they have accomplished one thing; they have UNDERMINED TREASURIES!!

Treasuries are the very threads that is holding this economy together and now these policies have metamorphosed them into the NEW AND IMPROVED TOXIC ASSET!! Every world economy knows that they are overvalued, they know that their yields are mediocre and still no one in the main stream talking head shows ever rails against or even exposes them. The whole world cart blanche walks on eggshells around treasuries as if it were a Financial Nuke with a trip wire trigger and a timer. A bomb if you will....which IT IS.

History shows us a pattern when and how this financial Hiroshima goes off. It begins like this:

There will be a slight and sudden rise in a price of a necessary commodity like Oil

This will send tremors through the treasury yields, Treasury Mangers will sell off their allocations and go into the commodity (e.g. Oil) in order to grab a profit. I guarantee that they will sell treasuries as it's the primary asset that many of them can sell.

This will trigger the Fed to step in and buy the dumped Treasuries as they are trying to stave off deflation by keeping low yields and cheaply funded. (Quantative Easing) The Fed knows that the Bond Market senses a “Treasury Bubble” and once again they turn on the printing press to buy every treasury in sight to calm the markets and create asset price stability

The Zombie “Too Big to Fail” Banksters smell blood in the water and begin to dump their obscene amount of treasury notes. You see these living dead institutions were never nationalized but got the best parts of nationalization; total liquidity (stimulus money) and easing of accounting and regulatory rules. The flip side was the Fed required that they purchase US treasuries. You see buying up of the treasuries allowed their balance sheets to look well funded and monetized, all the while hiding the toxic assets that were being siphoned off their books by the Fed since 2008.

The Panic sets in...Asset managers are not stupid they know the US is in much worse shape than Greece. They know that there is a “Treasury Bubble”. So when these mangers see the mass buying of treasuries by the Fed, and the mass dumping by the Zombie Banks, it will be their signal to get out of Dodge!!

The Zombie To Big To Fails and Asset Managers that have dumped their toxic treasuries will look for a place to park their new found cash. Now where might you think they can put all that new cash into? COMMODITIES. Commodities of all types will shoot to the moon. From precious and industrial metals, Oil, food staples will all skyrocket in price, catching the American public with their pants down. Commodities will be the only safe haven to go to and this is when the American public will get it's first taste of hyperinflation and it will taste like gasoline when the price of oil surges passed $150 a barrel in one week equating to $10 a gallon gas!!

Commodities SOARS and DOLLAR COLLAPSE ensues. The sell off of assets in purchase of commodities will be ballistic. People will unload homes, cars, personal belongings all once thought important for real assets like Gold, Silver, Food, Weapons, and Oil. In hyperinflation your $400,000 house will be worth $60,000 or 70 pieces of silver, for your house will not be able to help you buy things you need, while a commodity like gold and silver can.

Most of all the government can't stop it."


Thu, 11/04/2010 - 10:45 | 699453 BigJim
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I should add that I don't agree with his statement

For you see in trying to perform the same techniques which were applied with the crash of 1929 and 1933; the Fed has exhausted its cache of stimulus tools

but that's not material to his analysis overall

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 21:56 | 698058 rocker
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Now Now Guys and Gals.  Elliott Wave's Robert Prechter and Co. says the Fed does not matter.

He's calling for a out right short, again, just like he did in February of 2010.

How did that butt head call go. Oh, by the way, short silver @$17.00.  He did that call too.  Yup.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:08 | 698093 Bill Lumbergh
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Someday he may have his day in the sun...whatever collapse does happen will not be when everyone has a specific date circled on their calendar.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 08:46 | 699020 espirit
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Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

...Ace quote.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:08 | 698096 Turd Ferguson
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Prechter is nothing but a two-bit con artist and snake oil salesman.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:18 | 698127 centerline
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I don't think so.  I think he just makes the mistake of calling top and bottoms.  This crap is going to work right on cue via larger cycles - just that the noise at lesser intervals becomes more chaotic and harder to predict.  Prechter just underestimated the incredible level of manipulation we are seeing on the shorter time frame.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:56 | 698232 rocker
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You better wake up and realize how Prechter's EW cost me over 100K. He is a scumbag who sells fear. He does not know nothing about the markets. He says, "The Fed only matters to the markets for a couple of days". And has repeatedly said so. He does not trade his own calls. No conviction. Just another Ponzi Scam. Risk free news letters, I think not. This bastard, with All his employees belong in jail with Bernie Madoff.  Did I make myself clear.

He is the ultimate wealth destroyer, but profits all the same.  Yup.    He Profits.  You don't.  But he will sell you shit.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:15 | 698279 Careless Whisper
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in a virtuous circle

isn't anyone gonna comment on this?

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:21 | 698300 rocker
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Why Not ???  I ask ???

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 00:08 | 698429 Wyndtunnel
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More like a flat spin.  And then (the Golden) Goose will hit his head on the canopy while ejecting and die.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 08:32 | 698984 Jason T
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The title of Chapter 1 is "A license to Print Money" and starts off with a quick story from a play written a century prior called "Faust" by a famous German Poet named Goethe. In his play, there is a scene where the Emperor, who sold his soul to the Devil, Mephistopheles, is lacking money and asks the Devil to create it. The Devil accepts this task and a prototype note is created and multiplied a thousand times by magicians overnight. The Chancellor then gives the Emperor the note that has turned an ill into a good.

The authors go on to write on pg. 42 from this book:

It is fitting that licence to print money should have originated with a spirit akin to the Devil, the father of lies. The currency of Germany during the inflation years was a gigantic lie, which the nation recognized for what it was only in the last stage. (emphasis mine) The road to inflation, like the road to hell, is paved with good intentions, and it was to turn "ill into good" that the German government gave the licence to print money.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 02:13 | 698574 Marc45
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At what point did Prechter go into your bank account and lose your money?  The dude gives advice (wrong advice in my opinion) but YOU pushed the buy/sell button.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  That's what's screwed up with America, no one wants to take responsibility and instead wants to blame someone else and have someone else pay for it.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 02:47 | 698764 Captain Courageous
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Thu, 11/04/2010 - 08:17 | 698948 tmosley
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Right, so we should keep paying attention to him even though he has been wrong on every call.

Come on.  The guy is just pissed that he lost a bunch of money heeding the words of a flim flam man.  The point is that Prechter is wrong, big time, and paying attention to him will lose you money, just like Bernie Madoff.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:39 | 698910 Snidley Whipsnae
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I bought more physical silver at $17 and am certainly glad that I did.

I certainly would not let Prechter's calls influence what I do.

Who didn't know that silver was probably going higher, along with most other commodities, with QE2 all but a sure thing.

IMO, this QE2 is a window of opportunity for those still in stocks to get out. The insider sell to buy ratio is a good indicator of what those in a position to know think about the future prospects of their own companies/stocks.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 16:36 | 700902 rocker
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I am happy to say, I bought lots of metals before and after a 17 dollar tag on silver.

It is why my friends call me the mineral man.  Have many kinds of stuff from the earth.

Rhodium has always been another favorite.  Still cheap.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 08:51 | 699037 Common_Cents22
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Do you watch CNBS?  Blame them too.   Do you read the WSJ, Barrons, IBD?  Sue them!

Look in the mirror.  Quit being a victim of life, grow a pair of balls and move on.   Real traders and real men take responsibility for themselves, not point fingers. 

Most market trading approaches including Elliott depend on one thing, ummmm.....a market.    This is no market.   It's manipulation at the highest levels and at the micro levels (HFT).  The only people who have advantage now are the politically/money connected and HFT computers. (soros, gross etc...)   The rest of us have to read between the lines and zig when the talking heads are saying zag.  

HFT is reported to be 40-70+% of the volume.  They don't care about any fundamental anaylsis or what any underlying company is doing, but only micro short term techncial movement.   If this keeps up, the market can become nearly disconnected from reality and take a life of its own to defy gravity.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:35 | 698904 Xedus129
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I agree, its like trying to solve a 50000000th order differential equation, 4999999999 of which are manipulative and unpredictable (to us).

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:28 | 698327 dcb
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hard to tell

after all the fed initial buy program ended that march.

You know I can't post what I think because I'd get arrested. At least he confirms the worst of trickle down economics. make the wealthy more wealthy and make everyobe else poorer.

why can't he just crawl into some hole

where he belongs. I got to get out of this f"ing country. he actually believes this stuff which sickens me. But he is paid to do so.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 21:57 | 698062 Something Wicke...
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Could these fuckers do this with Glass Steagall in place? My ass is on fire.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 21:57 | 698063 Charles Mackay
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Ben says stocks, beeches.  Are we surprised here?

As for myself, I've been saying I'll take mine with silver.


Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:02 | 698077 rocker
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Ben says he is authorized by his dual "Man Date".  Hey Barney, we got a job for ya.  Yup.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:37 | 698906 Xedus129
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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 21:58 | 698064 b_thunder
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The test is this: are the newly elected T-Party congressmen and women  4 real, will they join Ron Paul, or will they be reminded who provided the campaign contributions and will guarantee future employment?



Wed, 11/03/2010 - 21:59 | 698066 Gubbmint Cheese
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I know a few of you Fed assholes read zh... So let me say this loud and clear: fuck you.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:01 | 698076 Something Wicke...
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make a duet...FUCK YOU

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:03 | 698081 rocker
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Triple.... Fuck You

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:11 | 698102 obamaphobe
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i have a feeling that there will be no dissenters to the "fuck you"

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:00 | 698224 sethco
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Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:07 | 698265 homersimpson
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Now that is old-school. +600 billion .

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:19 | 698294 frankTHE COIN
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Dont hurt'em Seth!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 01:14 | 698510 merehuman
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Beware men in suits. May all Central bankers self immolate. the sooner the better.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 01:17 | 698514 mathdock
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Awesome!  +1T Zimbabwe Pounds.  Oh, that's a quarter.  Sorry.

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:38 | 698907 Monday1929
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Well said!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 08:30 | 698974 MarketTruth
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Here's to you Ben Shalom Bukkake

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Thu, 11/04/2010 - 09:19 | 699142 Chemba
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wow.  that is cool.  reminds me of the old Digital Equipment Corporation line printers!  The one that had the telephone cradle that squawked and squealed as you made phone connection.

Those were much better days than the corrpupt socialist shit hole into which this country has devolved

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:14 | 698116 Sean7k
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Quadriple, wait, hope you never meet me anywhere and make the mistake of saying you work for the FED. You will not enjoy my response and it won't be verbal.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 23:59 | 698405 SheHunter
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We all do S7k.  If you pay taxes in the good ole USA you work for the FED.

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:28 | 698163 usexpat
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Quadruple FUCK YOU!

Thu, 11/04/2010 - 07:40 | 698912 russki standart
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Lets make it a chorus, Fed FUCK YOU!

Wed, 11/03/2010 - 22:07 | 698091 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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There's an app for that if you haven't seen it before - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Fpoebz2LE


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