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just an independent socialist from a very small and insignificant State, another looney toon like Black...move along now, nothing more to see here...
yeah, the status quo isn't looney
oh Dear!...I just realized that I too am a looney toon...
30% interest on credit cards -------40-45% income tax ,whats the difference.
30% interest on credit cards compound monthly (about 100X worse than income tax).
"just an independent socialist from a very small and insignificant State, another looney toon like Black..."
Yeah Sanders.... worse. Sanders has "bizarre" ideas like Ron Paul.
Off Topic: How come you guys get Cougar ads and I get "Singles Over 40" and "Currency Trading for Dummies" ??
Is Marla trying to tell me something?
There are ads here?
Scuttles off with heavy crouching. I may have been playing a bit too much S.T.A.L.K.E.R lately.
May the Zone take you.
You are new, and I forgive you.
Marvin_M has a classy avatar though... Only the guy with the paper bag in flames on top is better...
I like Bernie when he's pissed off and doesn't hold back. And just look at that hair...he looks like he was just in an MMA death match.
Yeah it's nice to run your mouth when you know nothing you say will ever get done.
They won't be broken up. Those in power never voluntarily give up that power. They must collapse and new banks must emerge that have sound banking policies with sound currencies backed by gold and silver.
"Those in power never voluntarily give up that power."
I seem to recall tanks shelling the Duma to end the USSR.
I suppose after that the communists left "voluntarily".
It was not Duma, it was not in 1991 and it had little to do with communists.
Now, after we bailed them out. Genius.
I Just saw neil barofsky say GM paid back their loan with another loan they had put aside from tarp.
Is that Bernie's hair blowing, or the plume from (sp?) eyjacantspelldafukka?
Nice, we need alot more of this. Yelling about the TBTFs is becoming the rage this spring. About time.
Boy how politicians love to mount their thrones and pronounce this and that and nothing, but nothing actually gets done, but tiny, atomic changes at the margin.
Thats why we vote for them.
Break them up. No one institution should have assets in excess of 1% of GDP. The United States needs small banks. Screw "globally competitive". How about locally competitive. Or local competition. I'm tired of my country.
I have to say Bernie is a man to love!
If only he had added that 97% of all derivatives owned by this cartel, and that the President's Working Group is their playbook to operate off of...HEY BERNIE, AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO HAS A CHANCE TO BE IN FRONT OF MILLIONS, TELL THE WORLD ABOUT THE PLUNG PROTECTION TEAM THAT HAS TURNED INTO A GAMING PLAYBOOK FOR THIS CRIME SYNDICATE WHICH IS BEING CALLED A MONOPOLY! THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU AND LET'S KEEP THE FAITH!!!!!
If everyone pulled their money out of JP, BAC, Citi, would it make a difference? Or would Chopper just replace the funds with new money?
So let me see if I get this right - the government has to break up large corporations because the government is full of morons that keep getting suckered by them.
Makes perfect sense for our day and age.
We would die without our parasitic overlords.
Well, at least that percentage of the population that's totally dependent upon the leviathan.
But, of course, they would drag the rest of us down with them.
Damn, if there could only be some sort of financial crisis in where all these banks were illiquid and bankrupt, exposing them of the fraud that they have committed... Then the market could naturally break them up whereby the assets would be sold off at market value to those with capital, and then the people that made the bad bets would lose and those that were prudent and smart with there investments would realize gains on their smart investing and savings.
Oh, I know i am only dreaming, as our economy is way to strong right now for any sort of real crisis to actually happen.
Sounds like the ox is in the well now.
We should not imagine that "the powers that be" as we refer to them are some sort of unified block of overlords who meet weekly to smoke Cuban cigars and plot another twist in a centuries-long plan to break the slaves in the middle-class on the wheel of debt in order to harvest their savings, their holdings, their children and their major internal organs for profit.
Because they are not all that unified.
They are individuals and groups of such who have agendas that do not entirely agree. And so long as the trough is full for all the pigs, the pigs get along. Once things get crowded or the slop runs low they start looking around at each other wondering which pig is weak enough to toss over the fence to the waiting wolves.
That's when it gets interesting. Once they are locked in mortal combat to stay ... at ... the ... trough! ... they won't be in much shape to avoid the real knives.
Bacon: It's what's for dinner!
All my metaphors end up being about food. Must be a cat thing.
Goldman shifts its money to the repubs and bamo! Goldman gets hit with a fraud suit voted by the Dem majority of SEC Commissioners. That'll teach the bastards to fund the other side!!
The game is just beginning to get mean. The compliant whores in D.C. just got uppity and took out their razors. It's survival time!!
Soon, it will get real mean, as the darkening of the public mood spreads up the food chain to the big dogs. German banks refusing to do business with Goldman - Morgan Stanley, J.P. Morgan and Citi paying calls on all the squid's clients. Any more friendly deals and collegial info shareing among the big dogs, or is it turning to fear, mistrust and revenge?
Oops, gotta check that BKX!!
WASHINGTON — Angered by what it viewed as foot dragging, a special panel charged with getting to the bottom of the nation's financial crisis issued a subpoena Wednesday to compel Moody's Corp. to provide information.
It was the first such subpoena issued by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, and comes days before Moody's chief Ray McDaniel is scheduled to appear Friday before the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations.
The only thing accomplished by breaking up the banks is that we avoid a TBTF situation.
But the banks still own us.
The structure of our economy, the role of credit, the central bank, the creation of money - they all favor a growing share of our output by the banks.
It does not matter whether my master is worth $1T or only $100B - I am still a slave.
Bernie is such an old school leftie it almost makes him "conservative" in a way and even though I disagree with al lot of his cant it reminds me how much I admire some of the old school lefties (who, alas, are *sigh* mostly no longer with us)
I hate to say it but Bernie's mostly right here - although actions speak louder than words...we'll see...
If you substitute "government" for "Wall St" in the following quote I'd really start getting aroused:
"we need a new Wall Street, where it lives in the real world, not just in a world in which they can use their greed and recklessness to make as much money as they possibly can any way they can."
Giant banks = TBTF and all the problems that go with it.... I'm with you Bernie.
New acronym alert: TSTBTBTF = Too Small Too Be Too Big Too Fail
Let's shoot for that.
For all you Sanders critics, here is a clip from 2002! Imagine if they or you for that matter had taken him seriously 8 Fricken years ago?
Yeah well......unfortunately, in this youtube clip Alan Greenspan had Bernie Sanders for lunch.
Well, look who was proven corrent and who failed us.
Sanders (big supporter of obamacare) has no power (except to shoot off his mouth) and is an utter failure, unlike Greenspan who had/has maximal power and ran the nitwits who insisted on getting themselves overleveraged in debt into the guardrail where they belong.
hear, hear! finally someone with half a brain is speaking. too big to fail is ipso facto a signal to break up the banks.
the american people should be infuriated that they are holding the bag for incompetent bankster management. they should vote out every scumbag representative - i.e. all of them - regardless of party and vote for anything but dem or repub.
fuck the fed, fuck congress, fuck the president, fuck the banksters, and fuck their supporters...
Get your money out of the giant banks !!! I have my money at a local regional bank. It took me 1 hour to open a new account at my local bank ( First Merit )
I closed my Wachovia account today, went to a Canadian bank.
What a world where the crazies like Sanders and Ron Paul speak the truth, while the sophisticated and educated Benny Bernanke only speaks assuaging lies.
Break them up? Burn them down! Death to the Fed.
We deserve, we have a right to, representation and control of our nation's monetary policy.
Amen Sanders!!! And...........Simon Johnson for Treasury Secretary. :) (Asmentioned in previous posts, yes I am a dreamer!)
It's a cold day in Calcutta when a libertarian agrees with a communist, but as the sheep stealers say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The issue is clear. Will Goldman Sucks and the Washington cartels be allowed to suck all of the blood from the middle class, or will we fight for the constitution and the rule of law?
Curioser and curioser.
Why waste all that energy on the banks.
We need to shank that other monopoly called the Federal Government.
Once we've killed that leviathan, killing the Wall Street banks will be like stepping on an insect.
Right. First........get rid of Sanders.
Well, actually, we should encourage the State of Vermont to succeed and join their commie comrades in arms in the province of Quebec.
I have to wonder if 'Weekend At Bernie's' alzheimer's is kicking in or he just conveniently suppressed the S&L crises from the 80's and 90's.
I guess the failure of over 740 savings and loans back then to the tune of nearly $160 billion, admittedly a fly speck compared to today's profligacy, was something to be shoved down the memory rat hole.
At the same time we may approach the shut down of approximately 2000 small banks nationwide.
My point being, breaking these TBTF banks up into smaller entities does not solve the problem when they are being run by criminals and politicians.
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