The Big Banks Have Sold Us Out. Democrats And Republicans Have Sold Us Out. No One Is Defending Our Interests. Our Future Is Going Up In Flames. It’s Time For Us To Stand Up And Defend Ourselves

George Washington's picture

David DeGraw is calling for a protest next week ... on June 14th:

The big banks have sold us out.
Democrats and Republicans have sold us out.


No one is defending our interests.
Our future is going up in flames.


It’s time for us to stand up and defend ourselves.


of dollars in fraudulent activity by the big banks on Wall Street
caused our current economic crisis. Paid off politicians from both
parties, along with secret deals made by the Federal Reserve, gave
trillions of taxpayer dollars and subsidies to the very people who
caused our crisis. After taking our tax dollars, they had the audacity
to give themselves all-time recording-breaking bonuses and consolidate
wealth in unprecedented fashion within the economic top 0.01% of the



While a record number of Americans are currently
living in poverty and on food stamps; while millions of American
families have been foreclosed upon; while health care, food and gas
costs are skyrocketing; while over 200 million Americans are living
paycheck to paycheck struggling to make ends meet, the super-wealthy
have never had it better. We now have the most severe inequality of
wealth in American history. The depravity of the Robber Barons has been


As their current policies prove, economic central
planners have become so arrogant and tyrannical in their shortsighted
greed. They think we are an ignorant and apathetic population that they
can continue to exploit without fear of rebellion.

We are finally
declaring that we have had enough. We will not remain passive while
global banking interests destroy our future. We know the systemic
causes of our current crisis and we are going to strike at the root.

this Flag Day, June 14th, Operation Empire State Rebellion (#OpESR)
will launch. #OpESR is a decentralized non-violent resistance movement
to end the system of political bribery (campaign finance and
lobbying) and break up the big banks centered at the Federal Reserve.

coincide with the launch of this movement, people have begun
organizing acts of resistance throughout the US. We are calling upon
you to take an action of your own. Whether it’s taking part in a local
public protest, withdrawing your money from one of the big six banks,
starting a community group or passing out fliers. Anything you can do
to rebel against the system of economic tyranny in a non-violent
manner is welcome.


As a first step, please join the actions against the banks in one of the cities shown here, or use the ‘schedule an action’ tool to create your own.

By way of background, I wrote in 2009:

The giant banks are treating the American Citizen like we work for them, are holding the economy hostage, and are taking our deposits and using them to speculate in casino style gambling.


They've bought and paid for Congress and the White House. See this, this and this.


Will Americans exercise our power - see this and this - or become serfs to a permanent banking royalty?


An economist says the healthcare bill "is just another bailout of the financial system", and lawyers say that it is unconstitutional.


Will we defeat this giveaway to the insurance giants, or become permanent slaves to mandatory insurance requirements?


Top scientists, economists and environmentalists all say
that cap and trade is a scam which won't significantly reduce C02
emissions, and will only help in making the financial players who
crashed the economy even more wealthy.


Will we defeat this
worthless scam, or allow the failed banks like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan
and Citigroup - who have already taken many billions of taxpayer
dollars - to make a fortune off of this con game at our expense?

Americans reclaim our nation in 2010 from the thugs and con artists,
or put our heads down and stay subservient while the little we have
left in the way of money, resources and dignity is stolen by the giant
banks, insurance companies and carbon trading players?

And I pointed out last year:

Many people think we just have to sit here and take it.

Many others are starting to call for revolution. See this, this, this, this, this and this:


(For those who are calling for revolution, please read the postscript).

But there may be a third way.

As I wrote a year ago:

As MSNBC news correspondent Jonathan Capehart tells
Dylan Ratigan, the main problem is that people aren't making enough
noise. Capehart says that the people not only have to "burn up the phone
lines to Congress", but also to hit the streets and protest in D.C.

Even though most politicians are totally corrupt, if many millions of
Americans poured into the streets of D.C., a critical mass would be
reached, and the politicians would start changing things in a hurry.

As [liberal] PhD economist Dean Baker points out:

elites hate to acknowledge it, but when large numbers of ordinary
people are moved to action, it changes the narrow political world where
the elites call the shots. Inside accounts reveal the extent to which
Johnson and Nixon’s conduct of the Vietnam War was constrained by the
huge anti-war movement. It was the civil rights movement, not compelling
arguments, that convinced members of Congress to end legal racial
discrimination. More recently, the townhall meetings, dominated by
people opposed to health care reform, have been a serious roadblock for
those pushing reform….

A big turnout ... can make a real difference.

Baker is right about Vietnam.

Specifically - according to Daniel Ellsberg and many others - Richard Nixon actually planned on dropping a nuclear bomb on Vietnam Nixon also said he didn't care what the American people thought. He said that -- no matter what the public did or said -- he was going to escalate the war in Vietnam.

a well-known biographer says that Nixon backed off when hundreds of
thousands of people turned out in Washington, D.C. to protest an
escalation of the war.

Similarly, no matter how completely sold-out
to the Wall Street giants D.C. politicians are, they would start
paying attention to their real employers - the American people - if we
make enough noise.

If 3 million Americans all peacefully
surrounded the White House and Capitol Hill, holding signs saying
"We're Not Leaving Until the Too Big to Fails which Caused the Economic
Crisis are Reined In", things would change pretty fast.

million might sound like a lot of people. But many millions of people
read popular alternative financial and economic news sites. You are
probably one of millions of people who will read this essay (by the
time it is published by some of the larger sites).

In other
words, it's not even a question of convincing other people to go. We -
those who read alternative financial websites - could do it ourselves.

If millions of us don't go protest in D.C., it's because we are choosing not to sacrifice a tiny bit in order to change things.

The bad guys are only winning because we - the American people - aren't making enough noise.

Not Now . . .

It is human nature to try to put things off until tomorrow. Tomorrow, when things are easier, we'll do it...

It is easy to despair that it is already too late. Should we whine and give up hope?

Well, about a month before the American Revolutionary War, Patrick Henry said:

tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an
adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or
the next year?

If not now, when? Like Patrick Henry asked, when will we be stronger? When will the robber barons be weaker?

If we're going to save America through non-violent protests, now is the time.

To hell with circumstances; I create opportunities.
- Bruce Lee

is no act too small, no act too bold. The history of social change is
the history of millions of actions, small and large, coming together at
points in history and creating a power that governments cannot
- Howard Zinn, historian

The power of an aroused public is unbeatable.
- Dr. Helen Caldicott

The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire.
-Ferdinand Foch

times of danger large groups rise to the highest pitch of enthusiasm,
courage and sacrifice . . . Mankind will be refashioned and history
rewritten when this law is understood and obeyed.
-Helen Keller

doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
- Margaret Mead

must remember that one determined person can make a significant
difference, and that a small group of determined people can change the
course of history.
-Sonia Johnson

let one ant stand up to us - then they all might stand up. Those puny
little ants outnumber us a 100 to one. And if they ever figure that
out, there goes our way of life.
- Hopper (a grasshopper who is the
leader of the gang of thugs who are stealing money from the other bugs,
speaking to fellow grasshoppers in the Disney/Pixar movie A Bug's

If you don't like the news, go out and make some news of your own.
- Scoop Nisker


Similarly, conservative financial writer Karl Denninger writes today:

- America - You - can fix this tomorrow. Put 500,000 people around
The Treasury and The Fed in Washington DC and refuse to leave until
Geithner and Bernanke both resign and depart and the FDIC goes through
all four of the largest banks, marks their "stuff" to market, and
resolves all that are insolvent. Lay peaceful siege, MLK-style.

Denninger wrote last week:

Everyone wants a way to save them - an investment strategy, a place to hide their assets, etc.


Let me give you the answer folks, and you're not going to like it:


There is only one way, and that is to save everyone. That is, to force this crap to stop - by whatever means are necessary - and possible.


Yeah, that's a strong statement. It's also true.


presume that we don't do this... At some point one of two things

Either the world blows the dollar off and it literally
collapses in value by half in the space of a few days, or we get into a
printing spiral that debases the currency so fast that prices change
between the time you go to work and get home. But your wages won't go
up because of exporting our labor to China, so you will slowly - or
not-so-slowly - be unable to buy necessities - food and energy, along
with medical care.


Either way the end point is the same. The
government becomes unable to issue Social Security, Medicare and
Medicaid checks, along with paying people like the Military. At the
same time you're literally being starved to death. In desperation the
government will then attempt to seize everything through some form -
whether it be through massive fines and forfeiture, or whether it is
through simple tax increases. That of course will simply make it


You can try to hide in something like Gold, but it won't
do you a bit of good. The government is not that dumb. They already
have in the law provisions requiring reporting of transactions over
$600. They'll go to a fully-electronic currency (we're damn close to
being there now) and force clearing of all transactions through The Fed. This will effectively create a 100% reportable - and taxable - data stream.


If you try to barter around it, and you will, they'll fix that too. Treasury will simply expand the already existing
IRS program for "rats." Your neighbor and everyone else will be
"enticed" with a 20% reward for all "off-grid" transactions that they
report. And civil forfeiture will be used to literally steal everything
you own when - not if - you get caught.


Forget it folks,
unless you're planning on going Rambo. And if you're going to do that,
you may as well get started now. You'll go to prison or die - but
over time people dying for what they believe is nothing new. We call
them terrorists when they lose - and freedom fighters when they win.
In 1776 a bunch of men decided they had enough, and they pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honors. They, in aggregate, won and thus are "freedom fighters" - but some of them also died.


the noise I hear - all words and bluster behind keyboards but no
gunshots - tell me that nobody's prepared to do that. So quit babbling
about it. All that does is get you on the No-Fly list and a visit from
the guys in the black (and armored) Escalades. Don't bother with
"sound and fury" nonsense. You're not only wasting your breath you'll
get arrested - for nothing.


No, the only solution is for the people to get ****ed off enough to rise up peacefully but in a form and fashion that makes clear that we're not talking, we're demanding. We're putting in front of Congress and other officials positions that are not "polite requests" - they're instructions, as all citizens are entitled to put forward to their elected officials.


The people en-masse must come to the conclusion that this will not be allowed to stand.


of that mandate does not require unlawful acts. There may be some
people who decide to embark on them, but that's not the message that is
being sent or intended.


No, instead the message to send is that we have choices that are lawful and peaceful, and we will exercise them in full.

  • We will not do business with banksters who caused this or any merchant who does.

  • We will not work overtime or even work hard; we will instead engage in consumer withdrawal, making as little as possible and drawing as much from the government as we can. That is, we will try to suck the government teat dry and lawfully minimize what we give both to big corporations and government.
  • We will NOT cooperate with law enforcement.
    "You have the right to remain silent" is an absolute. This already
    takes place in parts of America - go try to investigate a crime in some
    gang-ridden place. Nobody will talk. Well, we can make that the rule
    everywhere - we can make the decision that the government is a bunch of gangsters,
    and we will not help them. Our eyes are closed when it comes to
    Government. All we will respond with is a polite "Have a nice day."
  • We WILL picket, protest, and show up in front of banksters and politicians homes - not just offices. We have a right of free speech in The Constitution and we will use it. You don't have to listen, but the streets are PUBLIC PLACES. Peaceful protests - but lots of them, in your face, every single day. Public shaming is very effective. If you want to be in a public role - running a big publicly-traded bank or in a political office you're fair game to have signs waved in your face no matter where you are. Sure,
    they'll withdraw from the public - that's fine. Guess what?
    Barricading themselves inside a fort hurts them - and their families -
    more than it hurts us.
  • We WILL intentionally ostracize both banksters and politicians. We will NOT
    cut their hair, sell them gas or groceries, or fix their air
    conditioners. A Bankster comes into church, they sit in an empty pew -
    nobody will get within 10' of them. Communion? Surely you jest. You
    want 20% of our income as a tax due to QE2? Fine. You can have it,
    but you're cutting your own hair, your own grass, and fixing your own
    damn car. We won't rent you an apartment, we won't quote your new
    windows or a new roof. In short, we're going to say "screw you", and
    every time we see you on the street, we're going to say it literally
    and loudly, just to make sure you understand. If that drives them into
    isolation, that's good, not bad. The Amish call it
    "shunning." It's part of your civil rights - you have a right to
    freedom of association, which includes the right not to associate. Guess what - being a bankster or politician isn't a protected class.

Look, at this point folks we have a former Chief Underwriter for Citibank who has testified under oath, in written form, that they were knowingly
making bad loans to people. It wasn't an accident, and it wasn't
carelessness - certainly not when they took these knowingly-bad loans and sold them to investors.


Yet people still [do business with the too big to fail banks who have committed massive fraud on America].


Its your dollar.


This nation is yours.


Its currency is yours.


And the actions of these people - Bernanke, Congress and the rest - ultimately only happen because you consent.


Are you going to continue to consent?


Once more, can I ask why? Do you like being screwed? Do you like high taxes - especially illegally-imposed back-door taxes used to fill in the holes in the fraudsters' balance sheets - the
very holes that were created through the process that caused you, or
your neighbor, to wind up with a bubble house and an un-affordable
mortgage - one that was or will be foreclosed upon?


Let's assume you refuse to continue to consent.


you choose to protest, to withdraw consent, and to engage in every
lawful act available to you to stop it, when do you consider the job
"done" and stop?


That's up to the politicians, but I'll put forward my standards for what would be "sufficient" for me to call my job done and stop writing Tickers.


The politicians can choose tomorrow
to initiate forensic audits, mark everything to the market, force the
bogus loans out into the open and, likely, take these firms into
receivership. Detonate the bad debt, renegotiate the loans that are
viable and have a lower loss in doing so rather than foreclosing, clear
the balance sheets. Break the big banks up, bar the executives from
any financial or publicly-traded firm for life. Refer anything crooked
found to prosecutors with instructions to not only prosecute but seek
forfeiture of all the ill-gotten gains. Impeach Bernanke and make
clear, through changes to law if necessary, that "price stability" means
just that - we all go to the store seeking mild deflation every day, and we insist that The Fed both stop trying to prevent it and
leave those with savings able to earn a decent low-risk return by
ceasing their tampering with interest rates and protection of scammers
and frauds.


If and when they make that decision, we the people stop, because we will no longer have anything to be ****ed off about.


then, we don't - and if that means that the banksters and politicians
wind up with hair down to their ankles, a leaky roof, a broken car and a
hundred people waving signs in their faces every time they open their


So be it.


Will you step up, or are you going to continue to consent to being assaulted?

And see this.

How can both liberals
and conservatives be calling for the same thing - massive protests
against the banking elites and their water-carriers in D.C.?

Because that's what all Americans want.

While the elites have tried to divide and conquer America into a false left-versus-right dichotomy, all Americans want the rule of law to be enforced.

All Americans want the big boys to be held accountable to the same laws that we have to follow.

All Americans want there to be a level playing field so that the little guy has a chance to compete fairly.

For liberals, remember Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi.

For conservatives, this is what Jesus would do: kick the moneychangers out of the temple.

You know it ... now act.

We can save America in a week if we follow the call ...

Postscript: George Orwell - author of 1984 - pointed out in the Tribune (October 19, 1945),
the effectiveness of arms in preventing tyranny partly depends on
whether the average citizen can afford the current weapon of choice
possessed by the government:

connection between the discovery of gunpowder and the overthrow of
feudalism by the bourgeoisie has been pointed out over and over again.
And though I have no doubt exceptions can be brought forward, I think
the following rule would be found generally true: that ages
in which the dominant weapon is expensive or difficult to make will
tend to be ages of despotism, whereas when the dominant weapon is cheap
and simple, the common people have a chance
. Thus, for example,
tanks, battleships and bombing planes are inherently tyrannical
weapons, while rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are
inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong
stronger, while a simple weapon--so long as there is no answer to
it--gives claws to the weak.

The great age of democracy and of
national self-determination was the age of the musket and the rifle.
After the invention of the flintlock, and before the invention of the
percussion cap, the musket was a fairly efficient weapon, and at the
same time so simple that it could be produced almost anywhere. Its
combination of qualities made possible the success of the American and
French revolutions, and made a popular insurrection a more serious
business than it could be in our own day. After the musket came the
breech-loading rifle. This was a comparatively complex thing, but it
could still be produced in scores of countries, and it was cheap, easily
smuggled and economical of ammunition. Even the most backward nation
could always get hold of rifles from one source or another, so that
Boers, Bulgars, Abyssinians, Moroccans--even Tibetans--could put up a
fight for their independence, sometimes with success. But thereafter
every development in military technique has favoured the State as
against the individual, and the industrialised country as against the
backward one ...The one thing that might reverse it is the discovery of a
weapon--or, to put it more broadly, of a method of fighting--not
dependent on huge concentrations of industrial plant.

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straty01's picture

Violence is never the answer as it only sets up the future for more violence.


It is easy!


Do the protests, do the marches, use the masses conscious power.

The real trick here is 'vibration'

If you 'hate them' you yourself become hate, you don't want that

Trust me, everyone on the planet is worried about America, we can see a nation of good people trapped by a military industrial banker complex. Everybody is sick of wars, they cost a lot more than peace and are just so destructive. We need solutions, not agression, warmongering for profit/empire is just such a basic, ancient unecessary motive and NOT in tune with the planet considering the challenges we all face. It could be the beginning of a wonderful age once these banker-slavery-oil-service to self entities go down. This is a free will planet, THEY MUST STAND DOWN, we want peace and co-operation, there is plenty for everyone on this earth. What could we achieve if we all worked together?

Release the free energy technology, stop the wars, get in tune with the earth, my god what a wonderful planet this could be


ThoughtCriminal's picture


actually, we were sold out a long time ago

“The Bankruptcy of the United States; Congressional Record, March 17, 1993, Vol. 33, page H-1303 … :


 (“Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan.

“Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt.

“They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt.

“All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

“In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement.

“The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world.

“Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF.

“The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.))


“…It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; …, being bankrupt and insolvent.

“H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress June 5, 1933 – Joint Resolution … dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments …the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

“The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

“All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under Emergency War Powers.

“With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy have adopted a new form of government for the United States.

“This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America.

“This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955 reads in part:

“The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States…

“Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title.

“The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate.

“In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System.

“In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.

“Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan.

“Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt.

“They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt.

“All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

“Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another.”

“In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement.

“The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world.

“Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF.

“The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)”

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Holden Caulfield's picture

Nothing good will ever come from this debate until the average, hard working, law abiding person sees that 911 was another false flag used to take their freedom and liberties away. After all they fell for the Weapons of Mass Destruction ploy. By the way, giving trillions of dollars to those that caused and are still reaping the benefits of their fraud should of got most people's attention for some kind of action, but not here in the good ol' US of A.

The future is now. Be prepared.

Breaker's picture

"They think we are an ignorant and apathetic population that they can continue to exploit without fear of rebellion."

Well, we are. Over the past 70 years, Americans have voted enormous amounts of power and money to the government and have undone the constitutional checks on their government. They voted for the jerks who did that and they should not be surprised at what has happened.

But the article gets the causation wrong. The problem is a government powerful enough and that controls enough money to be worth bribing by bankers. Bankers and businessmen will always exploit any avenue to wealth. Politicians will always sell power and access to money if they have it to sell. Paying off congressmen should NOT be a viable way to accumulate serious wealth. As soon as it is, things will go downhill fast.

Crab Cake's picture

Hey GW,

I've been reading your stuff for quite awhile now. Keep it up buddy. I don't know if you've ever read any of my posts, but I have advocated what you are suggesting in this article for quite awhile now.

My thoughts fwiw...

The idea of marching has had its day, and the US far too vast. We need a virtual revolution.

Most people call the masses of Americans sheep, and there certainly is ALOT of ignorance out there, but I would say the majority of folks I've interacted with 'sense' that something is rotten in Denmark.

KISS. Keep it simple stupid. We need a menu of five, or so, actions that just about anyone willing to participate can do. We need a website, we need a defined time of participation, and we need assistance from fringe media to assist in spreading the word.

Take Our Freedom Back July. Take back our country from DC and Wall St!
- Please do not pay your July mortgage bill, and or credit card bills, till July 31st or after.
- Please do not buy anything that isn't absolutely necessary in the month of July. Food, gas, and bills only.
- Please call in sick at least two days in July, if employed.
- Please take the time this July to move your bank accounts away from the TBTF banks if you currently use them.
-Please buy two ounces of silver or gold in the month of July, as your budget allows.
- Please do not execute any trades in the markets in the month of July, move to liquid for the duration. If you have a 401k, or IRA, please take any penalty free loan or withdrawal possible for the duration of July. Remember not to spend it, ideally you can put it back or do whatever with it in August.

Definition+Time+Actions pretty much anyone can do+Set up a website/facebook...etc...+Get the word out through like minded and pissed off organizations on both sides of the liberal/conservative spectrum = Successful Modern Protest

DeltaDawn's picture

Calling in sick is not ethical. Why penalize your company if it is not a perpetrator? Quit if it is.

uniman's picture

Hey Folks,

I've received John Connor's latest communique regarding the resistance. Getting people off their couches into a protest is a decent start, but what's the goal other than to make noise? In his latest article Connor argues that holding taking and holding land is a critical goal without which your liberation ain't gonna happen, and that protests can be used as a method of initial occupation without invoking immediate and harsh reaction.  Take a peek and judge for yourselves....

RockyRacoon's picture

The only idea I gleaned from this site was the brilliant notion that TPTB's own rules/laws/regulations can be used against them.   Overwhelm the systems and retaliate with lawsuits seeking relief and compensation from local governments and institutions which can least afford to defend themselves against a myriad of legal cases.   Not bad... not bad.

Now get a phalanx of lawyers who have not bought into the system to assist... not likely.

rocker's picture

Zero Hedge and Tyler Durden.  Please put this feed on the main thread. Many more like this need to be.

It is a Patriotic American thing to do.  One small step for America, while we still have something left.

Psquared's picture

But GW, they didn't get it all the last time. They miscalculated in the 1930s, and it has taken 75+ years to get everything right so they can get it ALL this time.

Confucious 222's picture

I was going to write how absolutely outraged I am; but I have to go now and let the TSA droolers come in the house to fondle and molest my family as they search for "ter-rists".

Kreditanstalt's picture

Ted Rall (on Dylan Ratigan) is just another statist.  Wants a)to preserve government jobs, b)a government-enacted "jobs program".

What he really wants is more money-printing and a lower standard of living via the back door, via a weaker dollar...

Can we PLEASE have some solution that does NOT call for MORE GOVERNMENT?????

Psquared's picture

"Can we PLEASE have some solution that does NOT call for MORE GOVERNMENT????"

No, we cannot. ;-)

Seriously, if you look at every solution proposed they all involve MORE government in some way, shape or form. Even Paul Ryan's plan would call for more government because it would have to regulate two different Medicare/Medicaid systems.

i-dog's picture

Thanks for posting this, George. I was just last night thinking of contributing something similar ... while reflecting on how the potentially bright future for the human race, that is often showcased by social and scientific advancements on TED, is being flushed down the toilet by the oligarchs in their selfish quest to return us to mediaeval, nay biblical, times under their yoke. At the direction of the oligarchs, the governments of the world are now collectively at war with the citizens. Fcukers!!

We still had a long way to go in terms of spreading equality of advancement through all nations, but we had made fantastic progress from feudal times. Now we are faced with the whole developed world, from Europe and America to the emerging economies, being deliberately deconstructed by the oligarchs down to the level of a Zimbabwe or North Korea ... unless we step up NOW to stop them!!

No individual can do much on their own but by personally disengaging from the system (withholding taxes, buying and bartering locally, refusing to vote or obtain licences), spreading the truth about what the oligarchs have actually achieved already (collapsing financial system, debt slavery, police state, perpetual war), and being ready to join any protest anywhere to add weight in numbers to any brave souls willing to stand above the crowd, we can each contribute as best we can.

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i-dog: truly one of the more intelligent and more caring people on Zero Hedge.  (That said, there are many intelligent and caring people here.)

rsnoble's picture

I agree, they'll try to sell us out like bankruptlawyer dude says.  However it doesn't mean we have to recognize the new owners.

In the past couple years i've been off i've made a small machine shop, working on a foundry and have 10 guns and over 30k rounds of ammo. 

IMO this place is going to go straight down the shitter. 

And now we have Lord Obama saying he isn't worried about a 2nd recession???

Of course he isn't worried he's a multi-millionaire. It's just amazing how they lie lie lie isn't it. They'll have 75% of the country in tent city trying to pay for the stupid wars and not go into default, tent city will have one community phone that rings off the hook with mastercard collection agents while nukes are falling out of the sky and we'll still be in full recovery mood. Sorry, but people aren't buying it and it's time to call it what it is and do something about it besides the usual but we can't have that. And since we can't have that----enjoy your new tent.

Oh and thanks for the easier captcha math questions lately, lmfao.  Hard to believe I got an A in college trig 25 years ago but can't recall how to deal with negatives.  At least I admit it.  I recall a neg times a neg is a positive, thats about it.  The only thing I ever learned in the math classes that I still use today is a2+b2=c2 which comes in handy often if you build stuff, most construction guys refer to it as the 3-4-5 rule.



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the problem is that you're not going to shut down the fed over night. the stakeholders will pull up their stakes if they see this coming and they will abandon this country keep their wealth abroad, and wait until the end of a deflationary collapse to rebuy this country with foreign wealthy.

the scary part is that just like russia was looted by internationally banker funded cia/gangster/soviet insiders.....the west will be plundered not only by it's own bandits waiting on the sidelines (bandits in government) but that there are significant foreign nationals with major wealth in russia and other unfriendly countries waiting to 'invest' in a post crash u.s.

it's one thing when we're forcing arabs to recycle petro dollars back into the economy, but it's another when the country is so broke that bought off domestic american businessmen will not only get  secret funding from dubai, but that they might start selling their souls to the chinese, and the russians.

major war? maybe but unlikely, the u.s. falling into an economic hole where the 'new' central banker capitalists are funded from dirty foreign sources, (including their own hidden money) , much more likely.

rsnoble's picture

I wonder if our military might step in?  Of course they're all overseas I forgot.

GeneH3's picture

Good post, George. You are energized. That is a good starting point.

I did the Tea Party thing and marched on D.C. And I did my part on May Day 1973, and before, to end the War in Vietnam. But this is not 1973 and the Tea Party (whatever that is) has been co-opted by the Republicrats. Its time, if ever, to develop into a movement has passed. In the Vietnam era we had the support of the MSM, which hated Nixon and learned to hate Johnson. It is the opposite today. Even Fox and the WSJ eschew the tacit support of radicalism the MSM exhibited in the '70's. Moreover, the sheeple (the ones being sheared) have much negative momentum. And over half of the population is feeding at the trough -- beyond the tipping point. DeToqueville was right.

How do we practicably turn this juggernaut around to return to pursuing the ideals of the American Revolution?

If we could get the masses to take to the streets as you propose, that would work. But creating the energy to cause such a popular uprising is not easy. In 2003 in an essay advocating return to some kind of gold standard, I wrote:

"A libertarian society protected from, and by, a limited government may have been an ideal that the founders sought; but it has never been achieved. Even so, that fact, and the fact that the contrary direction appears to have been generally taken, does not mean that the ideal should be abandoned. If you understand the economic risks posed by the fiduciary (“trust me”) monetary standard and the moral dimensions of its inevitable consequences, you should attempt at a minimum to educate the people around you about the history, the respectability and the security that can be found in the gold standard and encourage them to pass the word. Changing popular understanding begins in your neighborhood, in your business circles and in your associations. It is a daunting undertaking, but it most certainly will not be accomplished if those who understand its importance shrink from the task or retreat into cynicism.”

I submit that turning the juggernaut around will be a difficult and arduous task. But each of us and our families, friends and associations need to undertake the task regardless.

In my humble opinion, you will never succeed without a solid philosophy that justifies your opposition to socialism on a moral basis. Consider: and the links therein. Moreover, all of the intelligent people who frequent ZH need to understand the serious threat to our personal freedoms (and I mean in your house and on your computer) that not only the current administration poses but the accreting aggregate of all other previous administrations (after George Washington’s -- ahem) established by statute, by practice and by precedent.

Below is a related commentary purported to be by a classmate of Barack Obama that is making the rounds in e-mail.

Rahm Emanuel cynically said, "You never want a crisis to go to waste." It is now becoming clear that the crisis he was referring to is Barack Obama's presidency. Obama is no fool. He is not incompetent. To the contrary, he is brilliant. He knows exactly what he's doing. He is purposely overwhelming the U.S. economy to create systemic failure, economic crisis and social chaos -- thereby destroying capitalism and our country from within.

Barack Obama is my college classmate (Columbia University, class of '83). AsGlenn Beck correctly predicted from day one, Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. Add up the clues below. Taken individually they're alarming. Taken as a whole, it is a brilliant, Machiavellian game plan to turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival ... and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.

-- Universal health care. The health care bill had very little to do with health care - It had everything to do with unionizing millions of hospital and health care workers, as well as adding 15,000 to 20,000 new IRS agents (who will join government employee unions). Obama doesn't care that giving free health care to 30 million Americans will add trillions to the national debt. What he does care about is that it cements the dependence of those 30 million voters to Democrats and big government. Who but a socialist revolutionary would pass this reckless spending bill in the middle of a depression?

-- Cap and trade. Like health care legislation having nothing to do with health care, cap and trade has nothing to do with global warming. It has everything to do with redistribution of income, government control of the economy and a criminal payoff to Obama's biggest contributors. Those powerful and wealthy unions and contributors (like GE, which owns NBC, MSNBC and CNBC) can then be counted on to support everything Obama wants. They will kick-back hundreds of millions of dollars in contributions to Obama and the Democratic Party to keep them in power. The bonus is that all the new taxes on Americans with bigger cars, bigger homes and businesses helps Obama "spread the wealth around."

-- Make Puerto Rico a state. Why? Who's asking for a 51st state? Who's asking for millions of new welfare recipients and government entitlement addicts in the middle of a depression Certainly not American taxpayers. But this has been Obama's plan all along. His goal is to add two new Democrat senators, five Democrat congressman and a million loyal Democratic voters who are dependent on big government.

-- Legalize 12 million illegal immigrants. Just giving these 12 million potential new citizens free health care alone could overwhelm the system and bankrupt America. But it adds 12 million reliable new Democrat voters who can be counted on to support big government Add another few trillion dollars in welfare, aid to dependent children, food stamps, free medical, education, tax credits for the poor, and eventually Social Security.

-- Stimulus and bailouts. Where did all that money go? It went to Democrat contributors, organizations (ACORN), and unions -- including billions of dollars to save or create jobs of government employees across the country. It went to save GM and Chrysler so that their employees could keep paying union dues. It went to AIG so that Goldman Sachs could be bailed out (after giving Obama almost $1 million in contributions). A staggering $125 billion went to teachers (thereby protecting their union dues). All those public employees will vote loyally Democrat to protect their bloated salaries and pensions that are bankrupting America. The country goes broke, future generations face a bleak future, but Obama, the Democrat Party, government, and the unions grow more powerful. The ends justify the means.

-- Raise taxes on small business owners, high-income earners, and job creators. Put the entire burden on only the top 20 percent of taxpayers, redistribute the income, punish success, and reward those who did nothing to deserve it (except vote for Obama). Reagan wanted to dramatically cut taxes in order to starve the government. Obama wants to dramatically raise taxes to starve his political opposition.

With the acts outlined above, Obama and his regime have created a vast and rapidly expanding constituency of voters dependent on big government; a vast privileged class of public employees who work for big government; and a government dedicated to destroying capitalism and installing themselves as socialist rulers by overwhelming the system.
Add it up and you've got the perfect Marxist scheme -- all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama.

Wayne Allyn Root was the 2008 Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee and serves on the Libertarian National Committee.

Whether or not this communication is authentic, it accurately describes an unsettling move to the left in the totalitarian direction, supported by the sheeple and targeting you.

As a retired person, I have no more skin in the game except my unwaivering belief in the ideals of the American Revolution and my commitment to my children and grandchildren to preserve for them the blessings of liberty that we enjoyed. To put it mildly, I am challenged.

In The Regulation Game, a treatise on government’s regulation of enterprise, authors Bruce M. Owen and Ronald Braeutigam questioned the wisdom of using government power affirmatively to achieve economic security and justice rather than allowing the market to work. They concluded, “We do not know the answers to these questions. Nevertheless, we are reminded of Edward Gibbon’s comment on the fall of Athenian democracy: ‘In the end they valued security more than they valued freedom, and they lost both.’”

Thanks again, George, for continuing the debate. There comes a time for each of us to decide objectively whether it is more productive for us to muster the energy to continue the fight or to shrug.

i-dog's picture

"all devised by my Columbia University college classmate Barack Obama"

I smell just another fraudulent attempt at redirection into a right-left divide through a scapegoat! Never forget that Obama is just a tool ... a tool to be used by those who control him, and controlled those before him, and will control those who follow him, to achieve their own ends: Global Central Planning under a monarchial feudal system.

America is but just one of scores of countries currently under seige during this end game period. The direct descendants of Alexander the Great and Julius Ceasar are once again attempting to "rule the world" (it is a multi-generational project under their assumed "divine right to rule"), and they recognised long ago (around 1776!) that America was the greatest roadblock to their success.

BTW, Cloward & Piven were simply re-framing what had already been made public nearly a decade earlier by Robert Welch, when he gave a speech at the founding of the John Birch Society in 1958, in which he enumerated what he saw as the future tactics of the oligarchs (though he mistakenly ascribed it to "communism", when in reality communism was just one of the oligarchs' failed vehicles ... now they are trying to further the same agenda again but under the banner of the "War on Terror"):

  1. Greatly expanded government spending on every conceivable means of getting rid of American wastefully as possible.
  2. Higher...then much higher...taxes.
  3. An increasingly unbalanced budget...despite the higher taxes.
  4. Wild inflation of the currency.
  5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials...supposedly to combat inflation.
  6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of the economy and every activity of daily lives. Accompanied by huge increase in the size of the bureaucracy and in the cost and reach of central government.
  7. Far more centralisation of control in federal government and practical elimination of state lines. Further elimination of local government.
  8. Steady advance of federal aid to, and control over, education system...leading to complete federal control over public education.
  9. Constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare, the beauty and absolute necessity of peace, and the need to give up individual rights to attain peace.
  10. The consequent willingness of the American people to allow the steps of appeasement by the government which amount to a piecemeal surrender by the free world and the US itself.

All of these tactics have come to pass in the 53 years since that speech (Welch was either on the 'inside' or had access to their writings) ... and Obama didn't single-handedly introduce any of them, though he has dutifully done his part to further each of them!

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I hesitate to argue any points made in the above comments, but two thoughts come to mind that someone might be able to clear up.  1. If Obama wants to tax the crap out of the high earners what explains his willingness to extend the Bush tax cuts.  2.  If Obama is promoting "horror of modern warfare" what explains his continuation of the existing wars and plunging into a new one in Libya?   No way I am supporting any Dem/Rep agenda but the small quibbles I note don't seem to support these theses.   Nor does it negate any of the other points made.   Are these just skunks in the grand plans?

GeneH3's picture

Good point. It all reminds me of The Gods of the Copybook Headings (

goldnguns's picture

just publish the list of bankstas making the 1/2 of 1 % and 30 cents of lead will solve that equation. 

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surely we have a few "select individuals" who would be interested in "extra-curricular" activity? 

we can all chip in one silver eagle each and "git er done".

anony's picture

Peaceful protests of whatever type do not distinguish men from mice.

There is only one thing and one thing only that the likes of Bob Rubin, Joe Cassano, Lord Blankfein, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, James Johnson, theBamster, H. Paulson etc. ad nauseum will understand:

The business end of an RPG or IED directed at them.

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Thought provoking as always GW,

But I'm less inclined to broad brush all Republicans and Democrats and instead affix the blame to a select few.

Phil Gramm, Jim Leach, Thomas Biley, Robert Rubin, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Hank Paulson, Alan Greenspan, Timmy Geitner, the Bernank, and to some extent Bush the elder and Bill Clinton.

And that's just a short list!

My personal opinion is that aggressive implementation of CRA, compelling banks to make bad loans to individuals who couldn't pay them, the Banks excessive greed in writing "liar loans" and including them with packages they sold to Fan/Fred, coupled with the repeal of Glass-Steagall, fueled by unreasonably low Fed discount rates for too many years, and exacerbated by the erstwhile "wizard of smart" Wall street MBAs who allowed an inordinate share of their portfolios to be dominated by such bad investment vehicles, and the bailout of the same by our government are the ones who have really sold us regular folks out.

But really, what do I know; I'm only a humble engineer. Yourself and most of the commentariat here are financial types, so I'll look for some considered opinions and maybe learn something.

My Regards

Fiat Money's picture

i'd love ta agree with you, RocketBob....  BUT!

  NOT ONE  damn senator, NOT ONE (not even Bernie Sanders or Al Franken!)  have DEMANDED an ACCOUNTING for  ALL THE looted "BAILOUTS" loot we taxpayers have been FORCED to hand     over to the evil,  "multi-national" Fed/gs/jpm/city-of-london banksters..     (and the con-gress is not much better, even deFazio & kucinich have been all but MUZZELED.)  

  And don't forget the REVOLVING DOOR congress-critters & their staffers... or the insanely corrupt/complicit MSM, "major media" propagandist/liars!  (great cartoon about above, from this same thread!)

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To hell with peaceful demonstrations! A peaceful demonstration will not get any media coverage. It's time for 1,000,000 ARMED people to march on Washington and take back our country while we still have arms and can travel.  

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Yes, at this point it would take all-out to-the-death CIVIL WAR to "take the country back".

But it wouldn't have a chance to materialize.  Government and banksters would collapse the economy, collapse the financial system, collapse food supplies, collapse fuel supplies, collapse everything a nationwide armed uprising would need to operate, then order that million plus blue uniform federalized domestic mercenary force (aka "law enforcement") to open fire on civilians, declaring open season on civilians, take 'em out, wipe 'em out.

While battling government forces an armed uprising would also be battling millions of pro-government sheeple sucking the government teat, getting those government checks, wanting to preserve the status quo, keep those checks coming, plus millions more pro-government sheeple not wanting to rock the boat, wanting to preserve their (slave) lifestyle.

That's why cilvil war hasn't happened and won't happen.

i-dog's picture

It's not a "civil war" when the country rises as one to overthrow a corrupt government, it's called a "revolution". And the time is long past where another one is needed.

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Neither will happen.

Save yourself. Don't count on America being saved.

anony's picture

This it the only thing that they will understand.


The blood of these plutocrats must run down Pennsylvania Ave.

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Shameful's picture

Won't happen.  It's as likely as sheep taking up to protest the practice of eating mutton.  Americans will not act until they are penniless, and that's when the police state control grid snaps into place.  Will find a lot of goons who will love a uniform to jack boot around.  To protest, why would that matter?  It's not like we can do anything but elect a different looter into the office. 

The system is to far gone.  You say we all want certain things, yeah watch how quick that coalition would break when money came around.  The only hope people have is to save themselves.  The US Ponzitanic has hit the ice berg, can sit around talking about fixing it or take actions to save yourself and loved ones.

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US Ponzitanic

Love it. May I borrow it?

Mitzibitzi's picture

I may steal that one, too.


Also appreciating the irony of tonight's Sky TV playlist consisting of The Planet of the Apes (remake - and boy are there some telling lines in that baby, if you listen for them; "We tried Socialism, it nearly bankrupted us!" etc) followed by 'Black Swan' and then 'Lie to You'.

Almost makes you think that TPTB have stopped giving much of a fuck about whether we catch them in the childish mind games, cos they know they already won... oh, hang on... wait just a minute!

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God is NOT blessing America.  If anything God has declared a CURSE on America, just like he declared a curse on Israel after generations of widespread rebellion to the founding principles he set forth for the nation.

The American government isn't the only one violating the founding principles.  The American PEOPLE are too.

THAT'S why America won't be saved, but will gradually go down to ruin and disappear from the scene, just like Israel, just like the Roman empire.

Smart people know this.  They'll save themselves. 

Foolish people don't know this. They're delusional, thinking America can be saved and they'll do it somehow. 

But they don't have a FUCKING CLUE how. That worthless piece of shit (G)utless (W)imp doesn't have a fucking clue how. 

Dream on. Let's talk again in ten years and see how you're doing saving America.

Peaceful protest? 500,000 peaceful protesters at the Fed are going to make Bernanke resign?

What clueless idiotic morons.

Fiat Money's picture

"If anything God has declared a CURSE on America, just like he declared a curse on Israel after generations of widespread rebellion to the founding principles he set forth for the nation." 

 GET A LIFE!  the "god" of the bible is a REPTILIAN, with an apparent BLOOD LUST for DECAYING BODIES (because 'he' seems to revel in MASSACRE and DEAD, stinking, decaying bodies... which only an alligator, crocodile, or komodo dragon could love.)    How about DAVID - a ruthless, treasonous mercenary who MASSACRED his fellow israelites when he took up with a Philistine prince while on the run from Saul?  Or David & Solomon's MANY WIVES & concubines?   Or MOSES MASSACRING the MIDIANITES - his in-laws?!  Or Moses & Aaron's ORIGINAL "night of the long knives" - a DICTATORSHIP PURGE of their friends, neighbors, and even family members, under the EXCUSE of 'god'?   Or how about the israelites LAYING WASTE to EGYPT?  Yes, we focus on the "poor jews were treated so harshly by Pharaoh" - BUT,  read Exodus 12:36,  we see the jews STOLE, EXTORTED GOLD and wealth from the Egyptians!  (A story CONFIRMED in the infamous "GOLDEN CALF" story - an idol that AARON, founder of the priest/enforcer clan, created and worshipped over!)  

  What the bible SPINS as the "Exodus" story, was really (read between the lines) yet another story of HIRED MERCENARY WAR TRIBES,  who GOT THE UPPER HAND over their hosts (as Anglo-Saxons under Horsa & Hengist conquered & killed their Roman-Briton hosts under Vortigorn) and LAID WASTE to Egypt, before making off with their looted, stolen, pillaged plunder.

 "The LORD made the Egyptians generous to the people, and they gave them what they asked for. So the Israelites stripped Egypt of its wealth."

hmm.. we gettin' a REPEAT  here in America circa 2011 ??!!  (indeed, if "TPTB" manage to WRECK the U.S. economy worse than already, it will be the SECOND   GREAT DEPRESSION the  city-of-london ruled 'Federal' Reserve VERY PRIVATE BANKING CABAL has  presided over here in America!)

High Plains Drifter's picture

israeli archeologist have been working feverishly trying to find evidence that the escape from Egypt ever happened. so far , no dice. this is their viewpoint on this. imagine this if you will. here we have israeli archeologist saying the exodus never happened. now mind you, so much modern day "jewish" traditions depend on this event actually happening, not to mention the fact that israel uses the Bible to justify its existence. i am just sayin.........

also the numbers are funny on this. 70 israelite tribesmen went into egypt and 400 years later 1.2 million people come out? in the book of numbers it is written that there had a 600,000 man army i believe. to have that many men at arms, then how many people would there have to be in total.

needless to say, the conditions in this area were not hospitable then and they certainly aren't now. back then they had no modern farming methods. people had to eat, or they would die. the land, itself could not support these large numbers of people that the old testament talks about.

also , sholmo sand, professor of history at tel aviv university weighs in on suspicious jewish "history" in a speech he gave in new york a while back.

very interesting stuff.

i-dog's picture

You are on the right track. The jews have been trying in vain, ever since they got full control of the country back in 1948, to find evidence of their biblical roots and thereby justify their existence there.

My research places them as Amen-worshipping Egyptians - as the Hyksos Kings ("foreign rulers") and their followers who were expelled from Egypt about 1,000 years before the Bible was written and up to 500 years after they first began assimilating in small numbers into Egyptian society from Canaan (ie. about 800 years before the time of the fictitious Kings "David" and "Solomon").

This chap, who comes to a similar conclusion, has done 30 years research into it and published a number of books: - though we differ on which Egyptian Pharaoh was "Abraham" and which Egyptian god they worshipped and have corresponded on the topic. He has a great insight into who was the real "St Paul" (Saul) and the true origin of Christianity.

Here is a good audio intro to his work:

YHC-FTSE's picture


You guys always manage to find the most interesting information!

cranky-old-geezer's picture

You CLUELESS (drugged-up?) MORON.

The Israelites were SLAVES in Egypt.  There's NO FUCKING WAY they could hire a mercenary army. 

hmm.. we gettin' a REPEAT  here in America circa 2011 ??!! 

Repeat of what?  Some bullshit fantasy in your (drugged-up?) head that never happened?

High Plains Drifter's picture

yes we all know it so well don't we?  they were poor helpless slave victims in egypt.......oh my......yet their own archeologist say this did not happen. also, israelis have been caught trying to sell fake artifacts such as:


isn't it interesting, that in all of the area now called israel, they cannot find one, mind you, one artifact from either the kingdoms of david nor solomon. not all of this time. and believe me they have been searching tirelessy for them but they cannot find anything.

not to mention the location of the so-called second temple. i simply don't think they know where it is. the present day farse they call the wailing wall is a roman built wall. you can see by the design of the blocks. all perfectly put together. the romans were excellent wall builders. i think they learned it from the persians. anyway, that wall they call the wailing wall is a roman wall and it is a remnent of a temple to jupiter that the romans had built there in jerusalem.

i don't suppose someone is lying to old HPD or shall we say, uh, stretching the truth a bit to make themselves look good and to make themselves look like victims etc......

YHC-FTSE's picture

Your frustration is palpable, and peaceful protests - the kind that really takes balls to withstand the violent provocations from the police - is one way to change the status quo, and put the fire of action under the few remaining "honest" politicians who can do something about it. That doesn't mean it is always effective. The largest anti-war demonstrations in the entire history of the human race happened in 2002-2003 all over the World, but it never made the Bush administration think twice about the illegal invasion of Iraq. That does not mean protests don't work, but it does mean you have to be much smarter. (BTW, the anti-war demonstration in November 2002 in London when over a million people came to Trafalgar Sq. & Hyde Park, was the last demonstration I ever took part in).


Almost every day I read about someone who warns of violent armed confrontations with the authorities, revolution, murder, or some other form of ingenious torture for those in power (And those behind the powerful) when/if the opportunity arises. Even as wishful thinking, that is MORONIC. If you go down the mental route of thinking, "If only that person/group of people was/were dead, the world would be a better place", you are following a route to oblivion, evil, and eventually the exact same mindset as the people you despise. There is a better way: Education, persuation, popularity and promotion.


If you ever go to a demonstration, for goodness sake LEARN EVERYTHING about the issue you are protesting about, so that when the grinning cunt from Fox TV points the microphone at you, you have a lucid, salient, and wise point to make to the world instead of looking like a fucking 2nd grade dropout tramp on drugs. Make a point of having group meetings about what you might say to the media, who should say it, and what to say in the short sentence they will allow. If every demonstrator got the memo, they would be vastly more popular the next time round, then the next time, and so forth until TPTB disappeared off to the shadows, to give opportunity for the law to catch up with them for a change. No matter how glamorous, heroic, or even fun it may seem, violence is never the answer, and fighting violence with violence will rub off on you in ways that will disgust you in the years to come.