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Biggest Protest In Athens Under Way As Tens Of Thousands Ask "Where Did Our Money Go", Demand No More Austerity (Now With WiFi Access)
After 12 consecutive days of protests, the biggest gathering in Athens' parliamentary Syntagma square is currently underway. The FT reports: "Thousands of Greeks protested outside parliament on Sunday against a fresh austerity package agreed in return for the country’s second bail-out in 13 months by the European Union and International Monetary Fund. “Thieves, thieves….Where did our money go?” the protestors shouted, blowing whistles and waving Greek flags as riot police thickened ranks around the parliament building on Syntagma square in the centre of the capital...Frustration over the socialist government’s half-hearted reform effort has united diverse activists –from unemployed graduates to environmentalists and pensioners – under the umbrella of the new movement. George Papaconstantinou, finance minister, is due to unveil on Monday a €6.4bn emergency package of tax increases and cuts in allowances aimed at putting this year’s budget back on track....“What went wrong? We need answers right now,” said Rovertos, a volunteer computer technician helping provide wi-fi services at the protest camp. “The government promised there wouldn’t be any more tough measures but they’re about to announce new taxes and thousands of job cuts,” said Stefanos, a retired civil servant sitting outside a tent." What went wrong is that Greece is in the process of being colonized by the global banker certal. But with summer season in swing, and most Greeks hitting the beach, we doubt many will notice until it is too late. As for those who may have noticed, below is a webstream of the biggest protest before the Greek parliament in 2011. It is sure to provide some entertainment for when the EUR opens up in 3 hours, if not much else.
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OPA!
Thousands of new jobs for the Greeks: polishing german boots!
Whoa. Zing! you just took it up a notch or... uhm... seven!
Greece should default, declare itself an offshore tax haven country and institute 2% flat tax for all foreign and local corporations. Create safe vaults for lease to anyone, no questions asked and collect fees.
These fees and tax revenews, the agri and the tourism, should be enough for 8 miilion real greeks to sit arround, sip coffee, play backgammon and chase Skandinavian tale, while the Greek women sunbathe topless.
BTW: they are already a tax haven for shipping, collecting lots of fees.
First off: HELLO IDIOT. Where art though? With your blazing yellowness?
Second: The Greeks have been slain. A long term relentless attack against their individual sovereignty and Liberty has at last born fruit. As with all social systems to date: Evil wins. It is our nature to be corrupted and so corrupted we become.
Sickening and not unpredictable. The path of least resistance is the one most of us take and you can bet your already lost ass that they know that.
The Greeks were once a great people. They have now been reduced to sheep.
Like us.
Is this your swan song before commiting suicide? You have given up, but apparently the Greeks are still fighting nobly and they will win. Baring electronic gadgets and other shit Greece is self sufficient.
Spain and Ireland are next. They will also win.
when you say , they will win. what is your definition of winning?
defaulting for the 19th time in their history of course!!!
Argentina people, it's the same thing.
Regain human respect, sovereignty, freedom from debt and hold the politicians accountable. This has nothing to do with political parties, even though the possibility of struggle amongst the political parties during the vacuum does exist, unity should prevail.
Yeah its all the politicians...where were all the revolutionaries when they were selling their 1 bedroom greek shacks to rich europeans for 600,000 euro in 2007. Pleeeeeease spare me your bullshit
Only when they accept that truth in their hearts will change come. Otherwise, it may be papered over now but will return a few generations down the line.
Banksters loaned, politicians lied........ get over it folks. It is point #1 in their job descriptions. This is what they do.
Wouldn't it be more correct to say banksters bought? Isn't that what they do, enslave peoples when prices are at lows?
LULZ is a version of LOL on steroids. It kind of means for shits and giggles.
Learn all about Infraguard and Fusion centers on this episode of Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory;
JESSE VENTURAS CONSPIRACY THEORY-POLICE STATE, FEMA CAMPS (Part-1-of-3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9844i_-Q68&feature=related
JESSE VENTURAS CONSPIRACY THEORY-POLICE-STATE, FEMA CAMPS (Part-2-of-3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrtK1uKtvnI
JESSE VENTURAS CONSPIRACY THEORY-POLICE STATE, FEMA CAMPS (Part-3-of-3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfcZg6U0ZkE&feature=related
We should use the English translation of "Al-Qaeda" it's, "The Base".
I would love for Obama to declare war on Americans and pull the Internet kill switch. Google, Apple, and Microsoft stock prices would go to zero overnight.
The mainstream media lost control of the message to sell their version of alternate reality to the American people. We get the true version of reality from the Internet now and the ruling elite don't like it. That's the main reason they are trying to shut down the Internet. Most hack attacks are government inside jobs for reasons we are very aware of.
We should encourage old people who don't get their news from to Internet not to vote, in solidarity with the voters who really know what is going on.
I would love for Obama to declare war on Americans and pull the Internet kill switch...We get the true version of reality from the Internet now and the ruling elite don't like it. That's the main reason they are trying to shut down the Internet. Most hack attacks are government inside jobs for reasons we are very aware of.
Are most libertarians paranoid schizophrenic, or just the ones with green hair?
...who you callin' green haired ?!?!?
I am not paranoid!
But I'm sure that my other personality keeps telling people that I am. The bastard!
Were you aware I've been a registered republican for the past 32 years since I turned 18?
I just liked the old school Taft and Goldwater republicans better, they were easier to infiltrate and aligned with my philosophy better than the Democrats. All the base will belong to us soon.
You're a Republican?
On one hand, that is surprising because I've been told repeatedly by Tmosely that there are absolutely NO republicans on this forum. Of course, that assumes one can ignore the 75% or more that voted for Bush either once or twice.
On the other hand, it is not surprising because one must be a total lunatic to have been voting republican for 32 years, and, simultaneously, have such disdain for the US government and the plutocracy it has become. And let's be honest, you really are a lunatic. I've been reading your whacked-out nonsense for months, and the only place you should be registered is the NIMH.
Lastly, when Goldwater said, "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice," he wasn't advocating that everyone die their hair green, go cucko for cocoa puffs, bury ham under the house, and become complete lunatics - that's not the extremism that he was looking for. Defending liberty is one thing; pretending that the US government is part of every goofy conspiracy theory known to man is quite another.
Very well written and researched, but with flaws.
I voted for Jimmy Carter and Ross Perot, need I say more?
while I agree, the internet has information that is threatening to those who would prefer their anonymity whilst pillaging the planet, on the whole, the "American people" are not waking up to much. . . the number one use of the internet is still for porn, followed by "social networking" which is, shall we say, under scrutiny for future reference by those who will gladly turn in a "neighbour" for the shiny badge 'n' title of local deputy.
as for "solidarity with the voters who really know what's going on" - isn't that an oxymoron?
@ISEEIT
I'm getting tired of this - The Greeks always claim to have given the world a lot. I think the only thing of value they have given is how to spot a bullshitter.
The Greeks were once great people? Not in anyone's lifetime bud. If you're talking about Ancient Greece, then I certainly wouldn't call infanticide and ritualistic homosexual rape of Greek boys for entering society "Great". (Warrior society for Sparta and Plato's Symposium for Greece). Stop watching movies, and read a real book on history.
As for the rest of what passes for Greek culture and mythology, if you like bullshit tales about flying horses, multi-headed sea monsters, half-snake women who can turn men into stone, and what passes for elementary philosophy from the paedophiles of their time, then my guess is you dribble quite a bit and never read a book in your life.
The Greeks are a fucking embarrassment to the EU. Nothing more than aggressive beggars demanding their next handout.
The 2000 year old Astonomical Calculator was a masterpiece of Greek innovation and forward thinking. Antikithera Machine. And they invented the Trojan Horse.
First off: HELLO IDIOT. Where art though?
The irony. The irony. Apocalypse Know.
Your plan makes more sense than the "sell-us-your-good-assets-and-enter-an-economic-depression" plan being forced on them by the EU/IMF.
Plus, we must protect topless Greek women, at any cost.
I wonder what ISEEIT was talking about. STFU, go out in the streets and hit somebody you Beef-Curtain.
10+
This is boring, I'm bored, these young Athenians need to set something ablaze, preferably a politician or at least one of those EU flags with the swastika... ... (sign)
Doña K,
For some reason I've led myself to believe that you're a fine piece of Mediterranean woman am I close? If you're a man disregard this I do not care for you...
ahhhhh... protests.
Well! My hubby is a man (he is very smart BTW) I learned from him. We both speak Spanish and a few other odd languages as we have lived in five different countries in 4 continents. Never made it to Australia.
Why would anyone give a shit about your "hubby".
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
Quit being an attention whore.
I am convinced dona is.hammy.
the first dozen or so posts from this avatar had "my hubby" adverts all through them, which usually means "I'm a dude, but want to post as a 'wife' " - I suppose there are many reasons for posing as a "woman" on a site heavily populated with "men" - I'll leave those to your imagination(s).
but my money's on the side of "it's a boy!"
My wife says I shouldn't talk to stranger women.
Not just Greece, the entire world should
NO, not me!! Why would I wanna default? I'm my own Central Bank, I keep my money in PM's...someday I'm gonna print my own fiat money.
Sorry, but when you said
I got an image of a bunch of Greeks sitting in rapt attention, listening to the Elder Edda.
Hljoths bith ek allar
helgar kindar,
meiri ok minni,
moegu Heimdallar,
viltu, at ek Valfothr!
My brain quit working for like twenty seconds.
They wont do it because that would be too rational.
lol, and I should declare the exact same thing right here on the shores of NYC, seeing as how my personal navy has just about the same magnitude of geopolitical influence that greece's navy has
Sounds like a good idea, it could work and they would rake in billions. Also they still have there 1500 islands.
Sounds like a good idea, it could work and they would rake in billions. Also they still have there 1500 islands.
Sounds like a good idea, it could work and they would rake in billions. Also they still have there 1500 islands.
Sounds like a good idea, it could work and they would rake in billions. Also they still have there 1500 islands.
per Dona K.".Greece should default, declare itself an offshore tax haven country and institute 2% flat tax for all foreign and local corporations. Create safe vaults for lease to anyone, no questions asked and collect fees."
Dona, they would be banished from IMF world bank, EU..OMG, on second thought It is brilliant until Obuma comes and bombs you ala Libya..for humanitarian reasons of course not because your leaders advocated a gold back currency for Africa,
That wouldn't work. The fed... I mean the president, would declare them terrorists, and undeclare another war.
by opening nudist camps!
It does rhyme with things from 70 years ago.
Tyler, OT, whatever happened with the financial problems of California state -- have not heard much about how their budget, funding, etc. -- did a magical bond buyer appear to make all their problems go away?
ca = rather ripped + radioactive rain
The big fat Greek sell-off
Required to contribute €50bn towards its own bail-out, Greece is finally facing up to the sale of its most treasured assets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8556698/The-big-fat-G...
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"Already advisers have been appointed to around 15 privatisation programmes, with the OTE telecoms stake earmarked as first to be sold.
The advisers and sell-offs being set up include:
• Deutsche Bank and National Bank of Greece on the sale of OPAP, the state gambling monopoly
• Credit Suisse on state lotteries
• Rothschild and Barclays appointed for road concessions
• PriceWaterhouse selected for railway firm OSE
• France's BNP Paribas and Greece's National Bank on the extension of an operating lease on Athens International Airport.
• Lazard on exploiting the commercial activities of the Greek trusts and loans funds.
Harris Ikonomopoulos, president of the British Hellenic Chamber of Commerce – which is holding a conference in London for would-be buyers of Greek assets at Claridges later this month – says: "These are long stagnating assets – and it is a good thing that the sales process is being expedited to fill up the coffers and jump-start the economy. More than that, competition will create growth. New investment in Greece is essential because it will produce new taxpayers and new tax income.""...
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""It is because management of businesses is so dependent on political influence that unions have so much power. What Greece needs is a huge cultural change from an environment where business is too close to politics. But to jump to an open and competitive market is a deep root-and-branch shift. The hope is that this crisis is actually going to be able to trigger this fundamental shift. But attitudes are deeply embedded." "..
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here instructions.
Learn Basic Hustle Step
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Rubber hits the road.
Sell it or default. Shut up and do it already, greeks.
i hope they default. i think the debts are b.s..
reset button time is here, all over.
thanks for that link, in all it's stomach churning glory.
ahhh yes "competition" and "growth" in the same sentence, how old skool, and tiring. . . but Claridge's?
yard sale, get yer Greek artifacts for pennies!
such a farce, a sad, sad farce.
"sue the bastards" !!
CRIMINAL FRAUD CHARGE REPORT
AGAINST SPECULATORS AND THEIR
GREEK ACCOMPLICES & PARTNERS
http://www.stopspeculators.gr/
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? Max Keiser ????????? ??? ?. ??????????? Fly by night dictator
http://maxkeiser.com/2011/06/03/%ce%bf-max-keiser-%ce%b1%cf%80%ce%bf%ce%...
> Where did our money go ?
You stupid fools, you don't have money and whatever you had you spent it with liberal retirement benefits and other social programs
Well that and they also bought this submarine from Germany at double the list price. The damn thing is listing at like 45 degrees when submerged. They still payed for it though.
You just can't make these things up.
Well, if the submarine company delivered it with a full tank of diesel (a German name btw) then it would have been righted when the keys were handed over.
"Well that and they also bought this submarine from Germany at double the list price. The damn thing is listing at like 45 degrees when submerged."
Insert highly insensitive Greek joke here...
Are you saying that the bottom of the greek sea is hairy?
Its lisping to port for a reason ;-)
Too full of seamen?
Not enough ballast in the bottom ;-)
Actually, it went to help insolvent banks.... plus, it just happens that if you import more than you export... something is a bit out of balance. Oh, and let us not mention the currency-peg that is the euro, which basically deflates those nation's finances and economy.
But nevermind, let the neo-republicans blame it on socialism (then again, i guess one could call financing a batshit insane economic model with debt, socialism..... but socialism on a nation-level, rather than individual level :)
on Sun, 06/05/2011 - 14:21
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> Where did our money go ?
You stupid fools, you don't have money and whatever you had you spent it with liberal retirement benefits and other social programs
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Sure! Its NOT! Like the Bankers ROBBED them Blind like in this Country! its the poor People.. just like here and their benefits!
$29 Trillion and all of it went to the Banks! not to the poor people you fuck wad Moe-Ron!! go get brain washed by CNN / CNBC / Faux News for another 24 hours a day 7 days a week!
http://goo.gl/FnxBZ Treasury Direct $14 Trillion Debt / http://goo.gl/TMl74 $15 Trillion in Loans / http://goo.gl/EXzal / ='s $29T
Your money being printed away was handed to bankers..
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE 3 Years 300% More Dollars Printed Out of Thin Air! Austerity for the Rich!
The Benefits!
You are a Banker Poster Boy! you get those Poor people! bleed them some more! LOL!!
Are you sure they are the Bankster's Poster Boy? Looks more like The Banksters "Fleshlight" to me!!
they have money but their government doesn't, as nobody pays taxes in Greece.
True! That's what they talk about in the cafes. Each company has several different invoicing pads and several different proforma's in cahoots with other companies. It is basically a barter underground economy.
That's a result of high taxation. Lower the taxes to 10% or less and no one cheats. You do collect more money.
Your user name says it all. Their money went to bail out the pigs at the banking trough and ensure their bonuses. Now, all former promises, all arrangements made in good faith, are off, and the people are told to suck it up. The big piggies didn't count on any of the serfs noticing that things were being pulled out from under them. But, now, they are saying, "Hey, wait a damn minute......" In Greek, of course. Does anyone know what that "lazer" thingy is at the bottom of the frame, in the crowd?
And ... now it's gone .... never mind.
Disobey.
Just a normal green laser pen. They are very bright to CCD cameras, especially at night. 15 bucks on ebay. Have one, great toy, suggest one to anyone who has done a trip or two.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/330571842220?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemT...
They lay around and f*ck living off of the state while expecting to live like kings. One day you have to pay the piper. The sad thing of the whole situation is that the banksters will make money off of this garbage. It stinks no matter what you say.
Go ahead, junk away you mother f*ckers!
The locusts swarm....
This must be the capital of bad Greece.
Nothing worse than serfs that won't pay.
They should create a good-greece, bad-greece, like the usa banksters did with all their toxic assets. Fannie Mae Greece anyone?
"What went wrong is that Greece is in the process of being colonized by the global banker certal. But with summer season in swing, and most Greeks hitting the beach, we doubt many will notice until it is too late."
Get real... why would the global banker want to deal with these greeks ?... This is what happens to socialist who are without industry to pay the cost of existence.
The only thing better than cheap labor is negative cost labor.
Maybe, but just exactly what labor are these greeks going to be doing?
Making some really yummy falafel gyros.
you know what...that comment made me so hungry for dem gyros i rang every greek restaurant in town, no luck..
shit man
If and when Chinese salaries hit parity with the US (or all FoxConn workers commit suicide), iPads will need a new "developing market"
Some kid in China sold his kidney for an ipad.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13639934
He still has another one left.
For us Europeans, you Americans do the same thing. You give blood for money.
Same thing.
Here in Europe we do that for free. I give blood once a year.
But by asking or expecting money for it, it's the same as selling organs.
People here in the US donate blood all the time, are you stupid or something?
Plus, an organ is not equivalent to blood - your body naturally replaces blood, not organs.
I expect a higher standard of posting from you. You disappointed today.
It's a point of vue.
We think you shoudln't sell anything.
You think it's normal to get something in return for it.
In India, you just sell your daughters for a Ipad
And in China they sell a kidney.
Point of vue. That's all.
ps: I'm still hung over from saturday night, the sunlight is giving me a migraine, so let's not discuss about this :)
I donate a couple of times a year with no compensation besides a cookie. Stop being such a self righteous eurodouche.
You are usually a funny guy, must have been the hangover.
MAYBE you should cut down on those DONATION, your brain needs blood to you know...
I SAID "POINT OF VUE"!
eh. if you had mentioned how overly litigious americans are i would agree with you about wanting compensation.
its ok, i still like you.
I still love to you man!
Hug? :)
i'd prefer we cuddle.
Hell, in this country half the people sold their freedom for the illusion of security and they sold their brains for an X-Box or a cable feed.
Oh, fuck. I could've got an X-box? Are you serious?
Dammit.
I'm not allowed to give blood ,i had rabies
I bought a lot of beer with "blood money" in college in '89. Sure I could have given it away for free but I was broke. And hey, I was thirsty. American Work Ethic, I didn't ask any one for free beer, I found a market for a product I had and capitalized on it.
Junk Me!
Blood regenerates. Last I checked, organs do not. Vaste difference.
But MethMan says it only costs $5 to dig a kidney outta the ground.
The price of Chinese kidneys will drop to $20 by August, wait and see...Buy CKK (Chinese Kid Kidneys) calls ASAP! :>D
hope he doesn't eat any GERMan bean sprouts!
The Germans should send all their sprouts to these protesters. Make sure they're well fed.
anyone know anything about this outbreak??
going germany next week for a while and wondered if any heads up...or just another over hyped mother ucking danger pandemic main stream media wank shits??
I'm going next week too and will carry grapefruit seed extract. kills all the nasties and isn't as rough as oregano oil. Oregano kills everything.
Wormwood extract kills all the nasties, also. Of course, it kills all of the beneficial intestinal flora at the same time, so use this highly potent herbal remedy in moderation, lest you will suffer the dreaded projectile diarrhea for a few days.
Better than dying I suppose, and better than getting this bug and being subjected to big-pharma antibiotics that will likely do very little to help.
Maybe that's how the "Zombie Apocalypse" begins...Bacteria infected bean sprouts from Germany that mutate with the Japanese radiation cloud fallout.
gotta admit as per the comment response, this guy has got a point. They don't work anyway and they won't work when these measures are passed. They're Greek. These bankers are making a big mistake. They are going to lose all their money. They will own a bunch of money losing assets on top of it. The unions will bleed the foreigners to death.
Because this theater, after all is said and done, has very little to do with the Greeks. It's about forced credit expansion to put on the IMF balance sheet. We are still in a credit crunch -- banksters need their GI Joes with the Kung Fu grips. The fiat meisters don't even trust each other and their whole existence of growth through debt expansion has come to a grinding halt.
By the time this is over, the amount the Greeks agree to will be a bloated number -- well beyond what is needed for Greek sustainability. Then the IMF can just do a bunch of swaps with the other nations to minimize civil unrest and avoid the deadly democratic process.
Good analysis. But don't you agree that the saturation point is near? If not past aleady? Pushing on a string is not possible.
You would think saturation would be showing to some degree at this point. Except I'm baffled daily as to how big this sovereign debt "sponge" is.
Life imitates metaphor. The string will be soaked in blood. Once it coagulates it can be pushed.
+1
That's fuckin' poetic, dude.
The entire concept of a sovereign country borrowing their money from private corporations/banks that can print that money for free (fractional reserve banking) is the true gift to bankers and elites. All of this is merely theater to further entrench this paradigm. Even the labor/debtor v. taxpayers, etc. is akin to the Republican v. Democrat theater here.
Simple truth. People get so caught up in their conditioning, which provides them the tools they industriously apply to every problem--but all they have is hammers, so everything looks like a nail. All you can get that way is the same old answers.
Only the right questions can lead to the right answers.
@ trader joe--
the only statemet that truly matters, and until we get candidates that state this issue clearly - The status quo will remain, unless the suffering can't be ignored via MSM cheerleading and the bread (food stamps, welfare, tax "credits"0 and Circus (you name it) stops distracting.
You're teetering on Stupid. Wait, no nevermind...
you're reply is so brilliant. Thanks for trying to help.
You meant to write "your reply". Now let me help since you asked nicely. What seems to be happening is a rather simple LBO of Greece in its entirety. As to your original question I think Tyler gave a nice example of what might be happening in the near future. So that appears to be the state of affairs, what will actually happen is another matter altogether.
You're Welcome!
Yep, they need to give the corporate fascists more tax breaks and get rid of all their regulations maybe then their unemployment rate will soar like it has in the USA. I mean we are just drowning in jobs created by those fascists corporations that pay little to no taxes, isn't everyone in the USA working for GE and IBM?
If they were more like the Germans they could be getting a disease that you get from eating shit.
bitter truths, well stated.
Indeed Segestan, what have Greeks produced that make enough profit to sustain their welfare State?
'Kojak: You can't corrupt it. And you know why? Because to corrupt it, you've got to show how corrupt you really are. " Kojak.
they produce ouzo and it oozes...from all their pores...its the next best thing to vodka on the rocks!
I've eaten a half a bag of pistachio's while reading these comments...
I hope there's more where that came from...
Kojak: 'Who loves ya baby'
and
Kojak: 'People who wait for changes to occur on the outside before they commit to making changes on the inside will never make any changes at all'
More drama. Wake me up when real (i.e. with consequences) change happens.
hey hammy...do you mean when it happens here?
agreed...this is the warm up to the real game...greece, ireland, portugal are just small potatoes...few billions here and there...the trillions and quadrillions are over here....thats the real game...
More Drama More Drahma
Default
...and then more Drachma.
"Where Did Our Money Go"?
A more accurate question to ask might be: "where did the Germans' money go?" Some of the Germans would like to know too.
Hint: Goldman Sachs may have some answers.
Message from the Bernank forwarded through GS........................................
Please be patient, the geen ink cartridges ran out. I am refilling them now !
Any moment I promise !
They can start selling Germany bean sprouts
What tragic about this is that these saps have no answer. Theyre just angry at having their free lunches taken away.
Should be quite the sight when the US ghetto monsters get their plates yanked.
Probably what the fema camps are for.
"probably"?
Thieves, Thieves, where did our money go?.... I like it, can we use in in the good ol' USA?
The better one is "let us live or we will f..... you." Which I was told rhymes in Greek
from der spiegel
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,766518,00.html
In today's Europe, the people are no longer in control. Instead, politicians have become slaves to financial institutions and the markets. We are partly to blame -- and changes are urgently needed to nurse European democracy back to health.
"Partly" to blame?!? Good old European dissembling...fuck 'em all
Don't count on it. The people are angry because they lost their benefits. They are not angry at the politicians that got them to live beyond their means all this time providing entitlements through borrowed money and tax and spend policies. They are angry because the party has ended. How many people have you seen being angry that so much debt was piled up by governments with nothing tangible to show for it in the end? What were they doing when the mess was being created? Voted for the bigger spender, that's what they did.
People are also angry because you can't run a business for profit due to employment regulations and taxation, etc. I'm angry! They're angry because they are unemployable. I bet many of 'those' people on food stamps in the USA would rather employ folk or work for people who want to run a profitable business. The whole system has been killed.
You are just beginning to scratch the surface on that one. Don't get me started with that. First they enact a shit load of employment regulations, taxes, indirect taxes, a pile of shit nonsense OSHA regulations which just serve to drive up the cost, more crap local state bullshit ultimately driving the cost through the roof, and then what do they do?
OPEN TRADE WITH CHINA!!!11!! You know that wild west of state sponsored capitalism where you get to do whatever the fuck you feel like, and paying peanuts wages. And it's your taxes that support this government making these decisions.
Exactly what do we have against the Greeks and their tax evading habits? The are just starving the beast. Shouldn't we be all thinking about that a bit more seriously? Tax strike Bitchez.
Starve the beast. \rant
are you talking about the USSA?
I'm talking about the West. The Eastern block of the 21st century.
The sad truth is, the people were never in control.
The whole thing is a Ponzi scheme - the banks rely on the support of the state and the state relies on the banks to buy the debt that the governments cannot live without. Politicians have promised more than we can afford and rather than being straight and admit it, they try to find ways to continue the pretense. The people will always vote for those that offer the most, because the majority is too stupid to understand the consequences. Then when the reality can no longer be ignored, they look for scapegoats. Greece is perhaps the most extreme case, but the US is not as far behind as most think.
citizenship and rule of law is a horrible thing. it requires constant vigilence and constant participation by those who are ruled. for too long , we have sent people to elected office to do a job and then we turned our backs and thought that they would do the job that they were elected to do.
The Spiegel, this dirty tool, should better explain central banking system and money creation instead of exhibiting high morals. They are also part of MSM and they also support the liars in charge (elected?)
Socialism meet Reality! A good lesson to all other socialist countries out there, too bad it's already too late
Eating shit makes you sick, stupid German betchezzz
Hey that's organic fertilizer to you bub.
Sure! Its NOT! Like the Bankers ROBBED them Blind like in this Country! its the poor People.. just like here and their benefits!
$29 Trillion and all of it went to the Banks! not to the poor people you fuck wad Moe-Ron!! go get brain washed by CNN / CNBC / Faux News for another 24 hours a day 7 days a week!
http://goo.gl/FnxBZ Treasury Direct $14 Trillion Debt / http://goo.gl/TMl74 $15 Trillion in Loans / http://goo.gl/EXzal / ='s $29T
Your money being printed away was handed to bankers..
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BASE 3 Years 300% More Dollars Printed Out of Thin Air! Austerity for the Rich!
I don't differentiate between poor and stupid those 2 human conditions are invariably interchangeable
Stop blaming the bankers for your own stupidity, it's like blaming the drug dealer for your own addiction
you deserve to be shoved up intelligently and richly like a well fed goose...foie gras anyone?
How did I miss ZH being overrun by socialist turds ? I guess since ZH was discovered by main stream Europeans
They come expecting a pity party, but this is fight club. Show no mercy.
YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THAT DAMMIT!