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Biggest Terrorism Scaremongers Are THEMSELVES Promoting Terrorism
The biggest scaremongers regarding the threat from terrorism are themselves promoting terrorism.
Don't believe me?
Well,
Pulitzer-prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh says that
the Bush administration (and especially Dick Cheney) helped to fund groups which the U.S. claims are terrorists (see confirming articles here and here).
And as the New York Times, Washington Post
and others are reporting, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani,
former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, former national security
adviser Fran Townsend and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey - who
all said that the terrorists were going to get us if we didn't jettison
the liberties granted under the Bill of Rights - are now supporting terrorists in Iran.
If you've forgotten how shrill these folks were, here's some background on Giulani (and see this), Ridge, Townsend and Mukasey (and see this and this).
As Raw Story reports today:
Former
New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Homeland Security Secretary
Tom Ridge, former national security adviser Fran Townsend and former
Attorney General Michael Mukasey all attended a forum organized by supporters of Mujaheddin-e Khalq (MEK).
The MEK is a communist group that helped Saddam Hussein
carry out attacks against Iraq's Shiite population in the 1990s. The
group attacked Americans in Iran in the 1980s and helped with the 1979
takeover of the US embassy in Tehran.
The US designated the MEK a foreign terrorist organization in January 2009.
Giuliani and the former Bush officials, however, sided with the group due to their opposition to the current Iranian regime.
"Appeasement
of dictators leads to war, destruction and the loss of human lives,"
Giuliani told the forum. "For your organization to be described as a
terrorist organization is just really a disgrace."
"The United
States should not just be on your side," he said. "It should be
enthusiastically on your side. You want the same things we want."
"If
the United States truly wants to put pressure on the Iranian regime,
it takes more than talk and it takes more than sanctions," Townsend
declared.
Georgetown University law professor and attorney David
Cole believes that under US law, the group of conservatives may have
gone too far.
"The problem is that the United States government
has labeled the Mujahedeen Khalq a 'foreign terrorist organization,'
making it a crime to provide it, directly or indirectly, with any
material support," he wrote in Monday's edition of the New York Times.
"It is therefore a felony, the government has argued, to file an
amicus brief on behalf of a 'terrorist' group, to engage in public
advocacy to challenge a group’s 'terrorist' designation or even to
encourage peaceful avenues for redress of grievances."
The Supreme Court has ruled that any "advocacy performed in coordination with, or at the direction of, a foreign terrorist organization" is a crime.
And see this.
Does American exceptionalism mean that terrorism is okay when we promote it? Some in government have been acting as if they believe so.
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Excellent article.
Only lefties think Guliani is a conservative. Tea Party types don't think much of America's Mayor.
OK, maybe FOX will tell people Guiliani is a conservative, so I can understand the confusion.
beware of jew yorker/jew york times.
the latter's defense of khodorovsky tells you all you need to know.
http://www.judeofascism.com/2010/12/thugs-in-pod-corrupt-and-murderous.html
Last I checked Roosvelt got into bed with Big Joe Stalin. Unless you can deconstruct that you have no RIGHT blogging!
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I think that the people who promote the terrorist scaremongering and constant encroachment on liberties in the name of security are the real threat to your democracy. 'The terrorists' don't hate your freedoms as much as the people within your own country who are dismantling it.
With all the steps downward America has taken in the last decade, I'd say the Bin Ladin accomplished his mission on 9/11. Who knew his most effective partners in this would be people calling themselves patriots.
"If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it." - Julius Caesar.
(Apparently the quote attributed to Caesar that was so popular on the interwebs a few years ago about "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war..." was apocryphal, if not just made up. Too bad; it was a good one, whoever really said it.)
Those aren't terrorists. Those are freedom fighters!
Classic comrade.
Che Guevara?
Slow news day?
must be for you since posting three meaningless comments in this one diary alone - you must be bored. Unless that makes your day.
and for you to notice!
If you plan to make your fortune by starting a professional sports league, you have to recruit some teams. And as you're getting the teams ready, you have to motivate other people to fund and build a whole bunch of stadiums.
So in what way does this differ from other large business ventures?
Please don't call these people "conservatives". Assholes is more appropriate.
Statists. Globalists. One-worlders.
Yeah, assholes works just fine.
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GW did some nice reporting on the Gulf oil spill but most of his posts since then are embarassing.
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TEMPEST IN TEA POT!
The boogey man is going to get you unless I protect you. I know the boogey man will get you becasue I paid him tooo!! I also trained them to do it.
You go mexico. You kill those worthless Los Zetas fucks that were trained in American Army Gang forts. You kill them and you make that hilary clinton bitch send you a congratulations card for every one of them that you kill. Make her sign it in blood.
Dang Jeffe Hepha you smart gringo number one! How u know so much?
You been watchin' the STASI VIDEO:
DHS use Stasi as training material in just how to surveil the entire population and how to secretly eliminate the dissidents fighting political corruption with the ancient Stasi Art of 'Disintegration':
(PART 3 SHOWS FULL DHS DISINTEGRATION WHERE A SECRET CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OCCURS AGAINST DISSIDENTS FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICS:)
part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7B1fHB_0I
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwNO_hGJFM
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnrK7jYi-M
part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ZPI-aaOjg
part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSVWMDm5i0
part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9E6s85GYg
You must use Secret Disintegration to destroy a citizen dissident secretly so the locals don't figure out it was a 'political hit' by sabotaging their social, financial or physical life. I.E. car accident ruins car or injurs them, pulling strings in big co to get them fired, following them to new jobs and preventing hiring, 'talking' to girlfriends to get them to leave you, or just poisoning or giving them weird virus, etc. This is how a KGB did it in Stasi and now DHS uses this trick. But its the Neo-Cons like Cheney that are the top Israeli Mob experts at this secret Disintegration. Why you think Mossad motto is "War by Deception". If you read Sun Tzu you find out. Best general wins battle without fight. If he can get you to shoot your own people like DHS gets cops to shoot you for being a patriot, then viola!!!
Better get the new 'Little Red Book' now printed in France and read it sheeps. He ex Nazi POW and not take bullshit and thinks like me. We need to get in street and sit down like Buddhist Monks, but hold off on lighting your ass with gas while I think of how to drop you all coffee and donuts from my hot air balloon.
Best Bank Book "None Dare Call It Conspiracy": www.filefactory.com/file/b422gc9/n/ndcic.pdf
Video shows CIA & LAPD Import Cocaine: www.filefactory.com/file/b42304b/n/crackthecia.wmv
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Hersh and the NYT/NYorker are upset that the American government is funding some communist outfit in an effort to leverage one crazy bastard Middle Eastern group against another crazy bastard Middle Eastern Group? Heavens to Betsy.
Since these guys wouldn't ever consider communism or terrorism a threat to anything the alleged crime here must be that supreme liberal sin of sins: hypocrisy.
Whatever the hell the government is/was trying to accomplish here it almost certainly isn't going to work. I have no idea what it is but I'll put money against it.
Bush and Cheney aren't running the show anymore Seymour and they haven't been for a while. What? nothing more topical to write about? How's Obama doing?
Coming next week: Well if Bush and Cheney supported communist organizations to further their administration's agenda what's the big deal if we have an actual communist heading this administration?
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Bush and Cheney aren't running the show anymore Seymour and they haven't been for a while. What? nothing more topical to write about? How's Obama doing?
Odd, isn't it, how for some people history began on 21 JAN 2009 and for others (like poor old Sy and, evidently, GW) it ended on 20 JAN 2009.
And not for nothing GW, but you do realize that precisely none of the people you cite in your article (Bush, Darth Cheney, Rudy G, etc.) have been in a position to run anything for the better part of 2-years. Right? So under what capacity are they - as your title implies - right now, today, "promoting terrorism"?
"but you do realize that precisely none of the people you cite in your article (Bush, Darth Cheney, Rudy G, etc.) have been in a position to run anything for the better part of 2-years."
Irony abounds, no?
It hardly takes the oxygen out of Coptics being blown apart in Alexandria as people chant Allah Akbar stomping on Christian body parts in the street or Central & South Americans being massacred by Mexicans (72 this time, President Calderon still screeching about Arizona for some reason).
Strawmen seem to be going out of fashion.
Elpresidente is scaremongering at the behest of our very own kind to further our domestic agenda. "Make no mistake", the most significant domestic ramification of the complaints relates back to limiting the sales of fhairharms in the border states, and thus by extension....
Another herring propagated by the left Les.
We don't sell grenades, full auto AK's (without a Federal Firearms License holder taking delivery), bazookas, RPG's etc. at mom & pop shops.
I've seen the story...traceable and actual traced guns are the key...it was a lie when Hillary first uttered it...not only that...some of the shit without serial numbers, M16's recovered...(that is manufactured in the US) are from armories...that ain't got nuthin to do with mom & pop's.
Just sayin.
It's a non-partisan thing. I assume that if the Bush admin was doing it, team Obama maybe too.
By the way, are you sure that people like Cheney don't still have a hand?
I'm sure Cheney has many people friendly to him that are still in both the government and in the military.
If you donated $10,000 to the campaign cause you got the name "Bushie," and that cash bought you a little green (or red) star on your name tag so when appearing at events you got talked to (besides secret service) . Silver star meant $25k, and gold $75k and up. Silver and gold's also got the routine photo-op's, greens if there was time. High boners were typically a different circle (event) altogether, no silly stars.
I can also tell you with absolute certainty that team "Obama" (completely arbitrary) is still knee deep in this pot of oppressive shit. Don't confuse it with executive function, it used to be Pentagon and DOJ all the way until Homeland insecurity, which is now the token "bad bank." Not surprisingly, homeland insecurity has a presence in just about every annexed US community in the lower 48. Ask yourself why. (HINT: Domestic surveillance, they already own your local law enforcement - bought and paid for)
Not defending the man's actions, but Cheney's bad habits with abuses of power started long before the second Bush circus of lawlessness came to town... ask ANYONE who was there.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and every "administration" (HA!) is dripping with it. The real genesis of accelerated abuses (or complacency to it) started in the 60's.
Cheney has the most pussy handshake you will ever shake. I learned long ago never trust a limp-dick-handshake (no pun intended).
Cheney got exposed early on to the way things work as Gerald Ford's staff during the Warren Commission. Rumsfeld too.
So yeah, the 60's.
Uh, BS. Whatever.
docj,
You post "Uh, bs, whatever" two minutes after G. Washington posted his link to a very long article with documentation from mainstream conservative/liberal sources.
You must be a friggin genius to review that whole article, verify the multiple quotes/sources, come to a reasoned, thoughtful meditation in less than two minutes and reply with;
"uh, ah, mmhmm, douh, c-o-g-n-i-t-i-v-e dissonance --does not compute-- , deay a-a-a mu- mus must b-be BS, daaaa, ehh, ehhhh, Whateverrr, daaa"
Wipe that saliva off your lip, you retard.
We're operating under wild west rules now -- good guys wear white hats and bad guys wear black hats, or feathered headresses or turbins, or talk funny, or look funny, or maybe have low utililty, or something we want, or they want something we have, or ....
The short answer is that those in power will say and do anything to remain in power. And hypocrisy is part and parcel of the tools of their trade. So when promoting, supporting, enabling, arming or becoming terrorists is in the best interest of those in power it is considered a legitimate tool of "statecraft", even when used against their own citizens.
The question is sort of like asking if it's okay to use cattle prods to herd or corral cattle. To those in power, we are considered potentially dangerous, undisciplined and ultimately expendable farm animals. It's up to us to prove otherwise and we have been failing miserably.
YOU DA MAN - THIS IS WHAT E.GERMAN STASI EXACTLY DID AND WHAT DHS IS NOW DOING TO THE USA! Note in Stasi Video how their job was to protect E.Germans from external spying but they were found to have done no such thing and only spied on internal political dissidents fighting corruption or jumping wall to W.Germany.
DHS is doing exact same thing and only spies on us to catch 'corruption fighting patriots' or they would be down on the Mexi border shootin the border jumpin invading Mexikans. But no they are shootin us for being irritated by their finger jammin TSA mob and big bro video cam and gun toten donut eatin' asses.
Oh sorry their I go again, gettin' irritated for being irritated. What the hell could possibly be eatin me? :)
Oh notice now they have a new 'mental illness' described as 'unusual or prolonged tendency to be mad at society'. Go figure...
STASI Video:
(IMPORTANT: PART 3 SHOWS FULL DHS DISINTEGRATION WHERE A SECRET CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OCCURS AGAINST DISSIDENTS FIGHTING CORRUPT POLITICS:)
part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7B1fHB_0I
part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwNO_hGJFM
part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMnrK7jYi-M
part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ZPI-aaOjg
part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkSVWMDm5i0
part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h9E6s85GYg
YOU WILL NEVER SEE CNN MENTION DISINTEGRATION. WHY?
CNN is a tool of the Disintegration. They can just arrest you dissidents and put on CNN that you shot the Pope or JFK or Kilt Kenney (Killed Kennedy).
Fear not the good shepard will leave his flock and come and get you. Ok he want's lamb for christmas dinner but he'll come get you. LOL It's like alien vs predator except it's jesus versus little bo peep.
no time like the present to demonstrate our value. The biggest problem I see is decades of indoctrination regarding the red vs. blue wars. Even some of the brightest people I would think see past the illusion do not, and are in fact even more rigid in their defence of their red or blue ideology than ever before. 'Yeah but the Republicrats are worse! We can't let them get back into power'.
When I say they never left it just blows right on by like a fart in the wind.