This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Bin Had
Preface: You can either
dismiss all of the allegations in the first part of this post as nutty
conspiracy theories, or decide that they are real and that I am using
parody. Your choice. Either way, it is clear that we've been had ...
Forget that Bin Laden likely received CIA training and support in fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
Forget the allegations by France's oldest and second-largest newspaper that a CIA agent met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11, and the claim by a former FBI translator that Bin Laden worked with the CIA right up until 9/11.
Forget that 9/11 was entirely foreseeable, and that government more or less heard the 9/11 hijackers' plans from their own mouths.
Forget that Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11 (see this Department of State announcement, this Department of State announcement, this CNN article and this essay), and that:
- In the 70's - Cheney and Rumsfeld were
instrumental in generating fake intelligence exaggerating the Soviet
threat in order to undermine coexistence between the U.S. and Soviet
Union, which conveniently justified huge amounts of cold war spending (and see this)
- According to former high-level intelligence officer Melvin Goodman, Cheney orchestrated phony intelligence for the Congress in order to get an endorsement for covert arms shipments to anti-government forces in Angola
- Cheney
and Rumsfeld (and many other high-level officials in the Bush
Administration) were prominent members of a thinktank which called for a
new American empire well before 9/11, and lamented that, without
a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor",
transformation of America into an empire would be very slow.
Forget that governments from around the world admit that they carry out false flag terrorism to justify their political goal.
Finally, forget that the U.S. could easily have captured Bin Laden in 2001 or 2007, but chose not to do so.
Bin Had
Ignoring the above, it is still obvious that we've been had.
Specifically, only 5 hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld said "my interest is to hit Saddam". He also said "Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not."
And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th, in a memorandum of discussions
between top administration officials, several lines below the
statement "judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [that is, Saddam
Hussein] at same time", is the statement "Hard to get a good case."
In other words, top officials knew that there wasn't a good case
that Hussein was behind 9/11, but they wanted to use the 9/11 attacks
as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway.
Moreover, "Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President
Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S.
intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of
Saddam Hussein to the [9/11] attacks and that there was scant credible
evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al
Qaeda".
And a Defense Intelligence Terrorism Summary issued in February 2002 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency cast significant doubt on the possibility of a Saddam Hussein-al-Qaeda conspiracy.
And yet Bush, Cheney and other top administration officials claimed repeatedly for years that Saddam was behind 9/11. See this analysis. Indeed, Bush administration officials apparently swore in a lawsuit that Saddam was behind 9/11.
Moreover, President Bush's March 18, 2003 letter to Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq, includes the following paragraph:
(2)
acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is
consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons
who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks
that occurred on September 11, 2001.
Therefore, the
Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war to Congress by
representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the
9/11 attacks. See this.
Moreover, the torture program which Cheney created was specifically aimed
at producing false confessions in an attempt to link Iraq and 9/11: er,
the type of torture used since 9/11 was a special type of torture specifically aimed at creating false confessions:
- One
of the Main Sources for the 9/11 Commission Report was Tortured
Until He Agreed to Sign a Confession that He Was NOT EVEN ALLOWED
TO READ
- 9/11
Mastermind: "During ... My Interrogation I Gave A Lot Of False
Information In Order To Satisfy What I Believed The Interrogators
Wished To Hear"
And see this.
As American historian, investigative journalist and policy analyst Gareth Porter writes this week:
Cheney and Rumsfeld were determined not to allow a focus on bin Laden
to interfere with their plan for a U.S. invasion of Iraq to
overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime.
It's not just Iraq.
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair says that Dick Cheney's vision of policy towards the Middle East after 9/11 was to re-draw the map.
Porter writes in the Asia Times:
Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states [including Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon ]
There are some bad guys out there, but their importance has been greatly exaggerated to justify America's imperial ambitions. No wonder former U.S. National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".
Bin Laden might have been a bad guy ... but the way his life and death have been used have been dishonest.
»
- advertisements -
But great thing that we have kind hearted people who are willing to extend a hand to help those who were in need.
Matratze
Alex’s outlook and urges the good men and women inside the system to say no to this shameful and dangerous tactic.
cash loans
Me too...served up nice and hot with gobs of butter inside whats left of Flackmeisters
Superweiss
The Yen, and Japan, raising cash to pay for the reconstruction of the country, is already on the path of Yen appreciation and will be assisted in their efforts by the other central banks. By acting in a co-ordinated fashion they will begin to reverse the worldwide race to the bottom.
florida home insurance
I am not totally clueless but it is pretty complex. The issues I see discussed in almost every thread are: inflation/hyperinflation/deflation, the fed, Goldmann Sachs, Silver and Gold, other commodities, the EU and the default of Portugal at the hands of the Finns, the crisis in Japan, JP Morgan, something that I think starts.
florida home insurance
secret method of killing your BUSINESS that was so secret that nobody knew they did it. This is because if the STASI kills a bunch of dissidents' overtly, then their dead guys surviving friends and families could piece together what was in common among the dead that the STASI used to spy on them.
cheapest car insurance
Within two years:
Dollar worthless and USA in violent chaos. Then Russian led invasion of Israel. Invaders will be annihilated. Then world will be amazed by the
reappearance of a Roman Catholic man with a famous name who the world believes
to be dead due to fatal appearing head wound. H. Kissinger will be his head
cheerleader. The world amazing man will
become world dictator. A
"marking" will take place. Without the "mark" one cannot
buy nor sell. The world dictator will
be worshipped. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
PROOF THAT BIN HAD"S DoD !!
http://desyeuxpourvoir.blogspot.com/2011/05/depeche-de-derniere-minute-sur-la-mort.html
Oppose the Deceivers. It is working.
Sorry-thought you were fucking with me.
Why are my posts deleted?
Who is deleting my posts?
Yes, there are House resolutions that apply in Washington, DC, Puerto Rico, and other Territories but unless passed by the senate and signed by the president they do not apply in the various states.
That is why they are called resolutions instead of law. If law then they would apply to all states and would not be called resolutions.
It is a scam! Of course the federal judges are exempt from income tax and will kick your ass if you try to express the same rights as they have.
But Tom Cryer kicked their ass cause they could not show the law! Got my ass kicked though cause I thought constitution offered some protection. It does not. Constitution was suspended in 1932 by the war powers act. All presidents re-invoke the war powers act every two years.
Reason? To create phoney fiat money which would be un-constitutional were it in effect.
So realize this-there is no constitution period-lip service only-up to the crooked judge. My suggestion? Get the hell out asap!
Also see whatistaxed.com
Might surprise you
Anyone care to cite the law that requires the payment of income taxes?
Internal Revenue refuses to do so.
See Tom Cryer's case in which his defense was SHOW ME THE LAW
Core of Corruption vol.1, video complete :
http://www.youtube.com/user/CoreOfCorruption#p/a/4709D43B435E7DC6/0/_9uB64ghcq8
[earlier link incomplete in "Smokey1" comment]
Best video doc on 9/11... imo.
Watch "KILL SHOT: THE STORY BEHIND BIN LADEN'S DEATH," a special "20/20" Friday at 10 p.m. ET.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/pressroom/2011/05/kill-shot-the-story-behind-bi...
meanwhile until we get to view the Osama special the President basks in the glory of his take down of the world's most dangerous man:
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110506/capt.c043057d9689440ba0fa6cce63789113-...
As President Obama said on the upcoming 60 minutes interview to air this Sunday:
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: My number one concern was if I send them in, can I get them out?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/06/60minutes/main20060509.shtml?t...
My sources tell me that an upcoming episode of Jersey Shore will feature Snookey partying at Ground Zero the night Obama announced he took down Osama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsxRl2oeV5k
War is a racket
~ Major General Smedley D. Butler
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm
This is fine work outlining what we've know for years: the Bush Administration lied us into Iraq. Not a word about how it applies to bin Laden's demise.
This is fine work outlining what we've know for years: the Bush Administration lied us into Iraq. Not a word about how it applies to bin Laden's demise.
h
Pakistan intelligence is called incompetent and failed and uninformed.
Biggest terror attack ever happened is on 9-11. Does this means that it was US intelligence failure or incompetent or they were part of the terror plot?
And for Cheney. He better hope there is no hell for if there is one man that should be terrified of hell it is he. He would be up for an eternity having his anus drilled out with power drill.
He is the creepiest and most disgusting man I ever saw and the world breathed a sigh of relief when he left power.
one of my fantasies is waterboarding that sick fuck.........oops i am sorry, military psyops guys. please forgive me for saying what i am thinking in my mind........i know, my mind is not right but i am working on it.....doncha know.........
Did American Government perpetrate 9/11 on itself? I find it very hard to believe they would have taken that last step if even for the risk of what would happen to them if discovered.
However I do believe the people in power at the time had such a depraved nature that they would have been quite happy to have thousands of Americans murdered for their own ends. So I believe they had the personal capability to have citizens murdered but cannot bring myself to believe it whilst there are a variety of other more obvious and likely suspects about.
The extreme arrogance and level of corruption that runs right through America now, in finance, judiciary, regulators, congress and so forth that has been evidenced by the breathtaking destruction of middle America for their own ends, had its real origins during the previous administration, where it was they finally learned to jump the shark.
The war on terror era enabled many with access to power to go way beyond the acceptable and into the down right criminal and to make criminal acceptable and the norm. And having secured control of regulators, congress and judiciary they could in anycase perpetrate whatever they wanted in total safety.
We now see financial terrorism on the greatest scale in human history. The MBS fraud, a deliberate setting up and destruction for personal gain that involved corruption od all laws and statutes with total arrogance in the belief they would all be personally safe from accountability. The bailouts, the pumping of free money to banks, the regulators and the Fed helping the banks to corrupt all markets at will (just look at silver).
The American financial and political system has capitulated and been corrupted so deeply and broadly that it is easier and more accurate to describe America as a criminal mafioso state.
I am allowed to speak in decent, I served this country with honor. Then I learned what 9/11 was all about, and the psy ops behind it. It's kinda like a bill called the Patriot act, this bill was designed to set up the new Police State, but if you vote against it, your not a Patriot.. Your country is being hi jacked right in front of your eyes right now and it's just sad that a high percentage don't see it. Just please wake up if you haven't already.
Do you know what our most serious National Security problem is right now? It's our debt. War fixes that.
The Bad Guy.
Who can we fight Warguy? China? Nah too big. Iran? Nah those towel-heads are plumb crazy.
Who's it going to be? Can we manufacture and enemy? Panama? Mexico!
I thought so too for a long time...with his medical condition I knew he had to be around a medical facility...I didn't think he was still in Pakistan close by though.
AQ confirmed we killed him and are pissed about it...tough shit.
Unless someone is willing to postulate that the entire AQ organization is CIA (which I said is the end result of the illogic associated with 911 conspiracy...a very long time ago...on a GW thread) this line of reasoning reaches a dead end too.
He met his final & youngest wife when she was just fifteen by the way and was just totally smitten with her...this would be the one he callously shoved in front of him to be shot in the leg before he was double tapped out of this world.
Her family chose poorly for her to be his bride.
Did you ever question why no Paki police or military showed up at the compound after a bunch of helicopters landed and commandos jumped out and started shooting everyone? They claim the operation lasted 40 minutes, so I would think that the local law enforcement or military might be a bit curious.
also, why did they take away one body to give a proper burial, but leave the others lying in pools of blood? Did they not deserve a proper burial too? Since when was dumping a body in the ocean a proper Muslim burial? Now we have no pictures and no dead body. We do have a staged photo of the administration staring at a blank TV screen since they have now admitted that the helmet cams weren't working.
I would like to think that we got the big bad boogeyman too, but the constantly changing stories don't add up. All the media stories show OBL had failed kidneys and diabetes in the late 1990's. Without proper first rate medical care, people with those illnesses don't last long. My opinion is that OBL died years ago and they recently confirmed it through detainees or wiretaps.
All good questions...I'll give you my take.
"Did you ever question why no Paki police or military showed up at the compound after a bunch of helicopters landed and commandos jumped out and started shooting everyone? They claim the operation lasted 40 minutes, so I would think that the local law enforcement or military might be a bit curious."
I think they showed good sense not to, even if they were standing at arms ready to intervene on his behalf. I don't think anyones sittin around here thinkin the strike team was on an island by their self...no matter what is "officially" said. From drones to any other assets at hand...they were wise to keep their heads down.
"also, why did they take away one body to give a proper burial, but leave the others lying in pools of blood? Did they not deserve a proper burial too? Since when was dumping a body in the ocean a proper Muslim burial? Now we have no pictures and no dead body."
Well, his body is the one, they say they took. It was the object of the raid, so in and of itself that is not special. They do have themselves in a political dilemma over voyeuristicproof. It will leak eventually...a picture. As to leaving other dead muslims behind...they were left in a muslim country for muslims to bury.
I'm a little pissed tonight so I'm going to say this...they did not give Danny Pearl a religious burial...or American soldiers or other countries citizens they captured.
If it were me...I would have decapitated his ass and stuck his head on a stick in the middle of Times Square...but that's just me...right now, maybe I'll feel different tomorrow...but I kinda doubt it.
"We do have a staged photo of the administration staring at a blank TV screen since they have now admitted that the helmet cams weren't working."
That is interesting...I hadn't heard that. Where did you find that?...I would be interested in seeing that.
"I would like to think that we got the big bad boogeyman too, but the constantly changing stories don't add up. All the media stories show OBL had failed kidneys and diabetes in the late 1990's. Without proper first rate medical care, people with those illnesses don't last long. My opinion is that OBL died years ago and they recently confirmed it through detainees or wiretaps."
If you pull up a Google map of the area there is a hospital right around the corner. Looks like the perfect set up...security (such as it was) by the military academy close by and local police...medical facility for his health condition...modern conviences of a city/town instead of the media myth of a cave.
Not sure about the burial at sea either.
Blah.. Blah ... Blah... go back to sleep and switch to decaf... nothing new here..
The next time we have the son of a reasonably competant president, who has no qualifications for the job, and wants nothing more than to be the baseball commissioner, we should make sure that he gets the job of baseball commissioner.
He brought a bunch of ideological con-artists and political hacks along with him (with the exception of Paul O'Neill) who completely messed the country up.
I would not be surprized by the allegations made here, but I don't have the brain cells anymore to devote to conspiracy theories. Go to Alex Jones' site for that!
oh so the real problem is those wascally republicans??? where have you been?
Are you going to listen to a guy with a bag on his head??? I think he's a New Orleans Aint's fan...
is he the unknown comic?
+5 Excellent GW...
Keep pounding away at our political class of fools and idiots...
Except he's always pounding away at the past instead of the current. Bush deserves a pounding and got it for 8 years. Why is GW fearful of criticizing the current regime's actions? Are they his masters?
Yeah really. There's not much difference between the booosh and obomba regimes.
Did you miss GW's weeks of pounding Obama Bin Lyin' on the BP disaster, there Gumby???
All you need to know about 9/11 is this search, forget the samantics and the bullshit and cut right to it.
Search: "Buzzy" Krongard
All will be crystal clear, and we let them get away with it. Search: "Patriot act 2".
The Bad Guy.
Amazes me how a website filled with individuals who read and discuss the complexities of monetary policy, currencies, CDS, and capital markets can also post such lunatic comments regarding Bin Laden. If our elected leaders were so smart and capable of such ridiculous conspiracy theories then this country would not be on the path we are on.
It's all working out great for the top banks and defense contractors ...
As nobel prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz notes:
I'm beginning to think that those that inherit their wealth are absolutely (and irrationally) petrified of losing it all and becoming middle class, yet love to write checks to think tanks and political groups that say the Middle Class never had it so good and in fact have it too easy.
what did he say?
Mr Sir -- 2 weeks and 6 days -- says his thumb is up his ass at his White House unpaid intern position... More Kool-Aid for the new dick...
yep, i bet i can guess what path we are on, and frankly i don't like it one bit....
Collapse?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfVMOIUBnso&feature=youtu.be
AP:"Pentagon reports brand new bearded,skirt clad,turbinheaded boogeyman to take the place of OsamaBinDead-A-WhileAndReallyStunk"
"Mr. Al. Awlaki has emerged as the distinguished,charismatic,and extremely scary Al-CIA-DA frontman"
so says an anonymous Pentagon spokesperson who watched the Tomahawk missile fired into the Pentagon on 9-11 from an F-18.."after a Pentagon brunch briefing [Fox News] with Mr. Awlaki, the joint cheif of staffs voted 6-1 in favor of Al-Awlaki as the new Al-CIA-DA frontman boogeyman to scare American sheeple so badly they will chronically cwap their pants and keep them wide awake at night counting 302,000,000 American sheep [no pun intended] shaking and trembling in ... fear"
[and sell tons of Ambien for big pharma] more
AP:"Pentagon reports brand new bearded,skirt clad,turbinheaded boogeyman to take the place of OsamaBinDead-A-WhileAndReallyStunk"
"Mr. Al. Awlaki has emerged as the distinguished,charismatic,and extremely scary Al-CIA-DA frontman"
so says an anonymous Pentagon spokesperson who watched the Tomahawk missile fired into the Pentagon on 9-11 from an F-18.."after a Pentagon brunch briefing [Fox News] with Mr. Awlaki, the joint cheif of staffs voted 6-1 in favor of Al-Awlaki as the new Al-CIA-DA frontman boogeyman to scare American sheeple so badly they will chronically cwap their pants and keep them wide awake at night counting 302,000,000 American sheep [no pun intended] shaking and trembling in ... fear"
[and sell tons of Ambien for big pharma] more