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Preface: You can either
dismiss all of the allegations in the first part of this post as nutty
conspiracy theories, or decide that they are real and that I am using
parody. Your choice. Either way, it is clear that we've been had ...
Forget that Bin Laden likely received CIA training and support in fighting against the Russians in Afghanistan. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
Forget the allegations by France's oldest and second-largest newspaper that a CIA agent met with Bin Laden two months before 9/11, and the claim by a former FBI translator that Bin Laden worked with the CIA right up until 9/11.
Forget that 9/11 was entirely foreseeable, and that government more or less heard the 9/11 hijackers' plans from their own mouths.
Forget that Dick Cheney was in charge of all counter-terrorism exercises, activities and responses on 9/11 (see this Department of State announcement, this Department of State announcement, this CNN article and this essay), and that:
- In the 70's - Cheney and Rumsfeld were
instrumental in generating fake intelligence exaggerating the Soviet
threat in order to undermine coexistence between the U.S. and Soviet
Union, which conveniently justified huge amounts of cold war spending (and see this)
- According to former high-level intelligence officer Melvin Goodman, Cheney orchestrated phony intelligence for the Congress in order to get an endorsement for covert arms shipments to anti-government forces in Angola
- Cheney
and Rumsfeld (and many other high-level officials in the Bush
Administration) were prominent members of a thinktank which called for a
new American empire well before 9/11, and lamented that, without
a "catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor",
transformation of America into an empire would be very slow.
Forget that governments from around the world admit that they carry out false flag terrorism to justify their political goal.
Finally, forget that the U.S. could easily have captured Bin Laden in 2001 or 2007, but chose not to do so.
Bin Had
Ignoring the above, it is still obvious that we've been had.
Specifically, only 5 hours after the 9/11 attacks, Donald Rumsfeld said "my interest is to hit Saddam". He also said "Go massive . . . Sweep it all up. Things related and not."
And at 2:40 p.m. on September 11th, in a memorandum of discussions
between top administration officials, several lines below the
statement "judge whether good enough [to] hit S.H. [that is, Saddam
Hussein] at same time", is the statement "Hard to get a good case."
In other words, top officials knew that there wasn't a good case
that Hussein was behind 9/11, but they wanted to use the 9/11 attacks
as an excuse to justify war with Iraq anyway.
Moreover, "Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President
Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S.
intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of
Saddam Hussein to the [9/11] attacks and that there was scant credible
evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al
Qaeda".
And a Defense Intelligence Terrorism Summary issued in February 2002 by the United States Defense Intelligence Agency cast significant doubt on the possibility of a Saddam Hussein-al-Qaeda conspiracy.
And yet Bush, Cheney and other top administration officials claimed repeatedly for years that Saddam was behind 9/11. See this analysis. Indeed, Bush administration officials apparently swore in a lawsuit that Saddam was behind 9/11.
Moreover, President Bush's March 18, 2003 letter to Congress authorizing the use of force against Iraq, includes the following paragraph:
(2)
acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is
consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take
the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons
who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks
that occurred on September 11, 2001.
Therefore, the
Bush administration expressly justified the Iraq war to Congress by
representing that Iraq planned, authorized, committed, or aided the
9/11 attacks. See this.
Moreover, the torture program which Cheney created was specifically aimed
at producing false confessions in an attempt to link Iraq and 9/11: er,
the type of torture used since 9/11 was a special type of torture specifically aimed at creating false confessions:
- One
of the Main Sources for the 9/11 Commission Report was Tortured
Until He Agreed to Sign a Confession that He Was NOT EVEN ALLOWED
TO READ
- 9/11
Mastermind: "During ... My Interrogation I Gave A Lot Of False
Information In Order To Satisfy What I Believed The Interrogators
Wished To Hear"
And see this.
As American historian, investigative journalist and policy analyst Gareth Porter writes this week:
Cheney and Rumsfeld were determined not to allow a focus on bin Laden
to interfere with their plan for a U.S. invasion of Iraq to
overthrow the Saddam Hussein regime.
It's not just Iraq.
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair says that Dick Cheney's vision of policy towards the Middle East after 9/11 was to re-draw the map.
Porter writes in the Asia Times:
Feith's book, War and Decision, released last month, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on taking down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network but on the aim of establishing "new regimes" in a series of states [including Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia and Lebanon ]
There are some bad guys out there, but their importance has been greatly exaggerated to justify America's imperial ambitions. No wonder former U.S. National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski told the Senate that the war on terror is "a mythical historical narrative".
Bin Laden might have been a bad guy ... but the way his life and death have been used have been dishonest.
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hey i like grits.........
Me too...served up nice and hot with gobs of butter inside whats left of Flackmeisters head ;-)
i can see you two guys really like each other.........
My level of hatred for socialists is only surpassed by my level of hatred for communists.
And a pregnant socialist will always give birth to a bouncing baby communist.
i have very much enjoyed this verbal joust.
and will look forward to the next instalment.
when in oz its difficult to get a good scrap going.
'And a pregnant socialist will always give birth to a bouncing baby communist.'
Yes, and they are the enemy within. The fabian society in england is full off well-off toffs who hate themselves and their country because they are well off. They'll do anything to destroy it and sell their country down the river eg McLean and Burgess in the 60's.
Their type are bad news, flakmeister, i suspect you are a typical holier-than-thou eurotrash who thinks they are smart because they took the train around europe and annoyed people everywhere he went. Easy to rack up 10 visited countries and lord it over yanks after that.
While i like germans overall they have a reputation for being loud and sunbed seizing while on holiday.
LOL
I'm glad you got a few cheap thrills...
BTW, I have lived in 3 countries and worked in 4. I have given invited (and paid for) talks in 9 countries spanning 3 continents. And on the NA side, paid-for invited talks include 13 states and 4 provinces. I have not included those places where I was merely a tourist...
Yeah, tourists do tend to be loud and sunburnt... Doesn't make 'em bad people though. I hate to say it, but American tourists may be the worst.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I have never had any form of Eurail pass, nice try though. Also, I have been to Amsterdam 8 or 9 times, put that in your pipe and smoke it :)
g'day nwemn mate, hope u r still up.
flakcomrade mate, hmmm, in my line of work doing paid talks means you have sold yourself down the river and u r in the pocket of industry but it seems to give you self respect and that is a good thing. It means you must have something to say... don't make it bullshit.
Have a good look at the UK if you want to see what 20 years of a socialist government with lots of money can do to a country. The place is utterly stuffed - money pissed away on layer upon layer of bureaucracy, fostering a culture of dependancy and importing 2.8million mainly untrained immigrants while keeping 3 million native brits on welfare.
That the 2.8 million new arrivals would tend to vote for more socialism makes the crime even worse.
If you have been to the 'dam so much you will share my misery at its equivalent demise.
I 've had some fun times there although never with the ladies.... i went for the van goghs.. almost sounds like coffee shop.
:o
Naw, never sold out... invites were based on original research that people wanted to hear...
I agree the UK is a shitshow, they have been bankrupt since 1940 (if not earlier). Sold their oil at the bottom and sold their gold at the bottom too...
I don't fraternize with the ladies, at least on a client-provider basis... Last trip I made was to catch the Caravaggio-Rembrandt exhibition at the Rijksmuseum. When I got there, I realized, oh shit, this is Queen's Day...
You've gone to the 'dam 10 times and not partaken of its 2 main drawcards?!!
And i'm not talking of the Rijksmuseum here.
What sort of German are u? I like my germans with big tits and balls, rolling across the plains in furs and heavy armour.
i demand u change your name from flakmeister - i thought you were a hard man of the friebund, not a dreamy lefty - did you leave europe for work or did you feel like a fish out of water in the fatherland? Spill the beans.
Not German... but, given my avatar, you are not the first to make that mistake. Got my handle from my wargaming days...
And no, I ain't no dreamy lefty, too old for that shit. Just a pragmatic guy that has seen enough people get screwed. FWIW, the Canadians think I'm a fascist. Go figger...
Why pay for it when you can get it for, relatively, free? And by two main drawing cards, you aren't implying the canal cruises, are you? :)
Not a German, that'll teach me to come on this website straight.
i suspected as much - a german would have shagged his way around amsterdam like it was 1942.
and you aint old - if you were a gamer you are 40's at the oldest.
if i used my old wargame avatar i would use 'Cthulhu hates banksters'
Looks can be deceiving... n'est ce que pas?
Used to do Squad Leader, (my fuck, that was a labor of love), ended up doing Panzer Campaigns on-line: Operational Level stuff with logistics. Personal fav to was the Battle of Kirovograd (Jan 44) and the Korsun Pocket. Used to win as the Russians or the Germans. Kirovograd was battle where more soldiers were killed, MIA, what have you, than the first 20 days of the Normandy campaign and 99.9% of people have never heard of it...
Anyway, it's been a slice, bedtime for Bonzo, so to speak.
LOL...glad you enjoyed it Big D...it is Fight Club.
"Yes, and they are the enemy within. The fabian society in england is full off well-off toffs who hate themselves and their country because they are well off. They'll do anything to destroy it and sell their country down the river eg McLean and Burgess in the 60's."
Yes they are.
They have enemies as well...afterall, nmewn is an abbreviation of enemy within ;-)
(The scene is the police chiefs office from mad max 1)
'Goddam it, nmewn...i've seen it in your eyes!! You're beginning to enjoy it'
;-)
I love it. God help me, I do love it so.
(Scene from Patton)
hehehehh
you sure drew in a bunch of oddballs this thread, its been good banter.
now get back into that V8 interceptor.
Idiots and their labels... Are the other rabbis in your commune just as stoopid?
I'm not Jewish...check your bigoted premise and try again.
Yah I believe you, rabbi.
Haven't you debauched yourself enough for one evening?
Both sides of this debate despise Yahoo refugees, this is a very different place...you can't get away with posting bullshit here.
At seven weeks old, you need to build your cred up a little first, change your diaper and try again some other time.
Take the advice and go in peace.
"you can't get away with posting bullshit here"
You defy your own logic. One post at a time.
You define ignorance, all the time.
Change your diaper yet?
Wow, made it all the way to Canada... Must have been frightening to be in the lair of the socialist wolf. Bet it felt good to get back...
Kudos on picking up on the Kelly's Heros reference. I just learned that you are not just to ignorant kid typing in Mom's basement, which in some sense just makes you more pathetic as you are old enough to have learned a bit. Get out and see the world, you will likely benefit.
I bet I have been to more countries than you have been to NASCAR races.
You also never had anything to say about how "Upward Mobility" is higher in socialist countries than the US. And, re: Switzerland, for the most part "
The Right" in Europe is way left of the center in the United States.
Face it, you can't debate the points and all you are left with is mudslinging.
After two paragraphs of mudslinging and a sentence confirming you are in fact a pathetic socialist driven here to try and aquire wealth only for yourself you get to;
"You also never had anything to say about how "Upward Mobility" is higher in socialist countries than the US."
That would be in Greece?...Portugal?...Spain?...as I alluded to before when you brought up Japan...LOL!!!
At what cost to everyone's net worth who lives there? Their currency is being trashed by debt backed socialist/Keynesian monetary theory running amok! Wasn't he from England and a Fabian socialist?
This is not what's best for the "common man"...it's what's best for the fleet of foot, for the connected, for politicians, for the elites...as you wish to present yourself here.
"And, re: Switzerland, for the most part "
The Right" in Europe is way left of the center in the United States."
I said...Switzerland is a capitalist economy and the SVP is decidedly not leftist you lying, obfuscating, deceitful twit. It's in the link and can be confirmed by anyone accept you apparently.
What has happened here...is in your attempt to demean me, you have demeaned yourself with your holier than thou attitude...as all those who "think" they are elite will always do. Your snobbery of thinking you were speaking from on high with some country bumpkin was and always will be your kinds undoing.
I don't watch NASCAR...but I love my grits...and my bowl is your skull tonight you fucking socialist bastard.
I'm back after a nice dinner and getting my knob polished. Did you hang out here all night at the Hedge?
Back to Switzerland for a moment. I said it was Socialist and you said that, no, it was Capitalist. Umm, seems you don't even know what a Social Democracy is? Do you?
Here is the funny thing. I got my beliefs and you got yours. I don't spew bile about your, admittedly misguided, beliefs but you get all excited and start spouting inane hateful shit about mine.
Another thing you don't seem to get. This country was sold out to the corporate lobbyist. You haven't figured it out that the same source of money is telling you that the "Socialists" did it? My fuck, are you that naive? The Right wing in this country screwed its constituency using their own values.
Re: Upward mobility, since you may be suffering from Alzheimers I'll post the link again:
Here is a synopsis:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/social-immobility-climbin_n_501788.html
and here is the original report:
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/2/7/45002641.pdf
This is, afterall, only the third time I have posted it for your benefit.
"I'm back after a nice dinner and getting my knob polished. Did you hang out here all night at the Hedge?"
I could have gone all day without knowing about your gay red light district cruising habits and if you click on my avatar you will find a handy tracking tool that allows you to see the last time I posted. For the second time, you profit from me having put nothing but your own dignity at risk.
"Back to Switzerland for a moment. I said it was Socialist and you said that, no, it was Capitalist. Umm, seems you don't even know what a Social Democracy is? Do you?"
I said, for what seems like the twentieth time, it is a capitalist economy. You said, if I can read through the braille script of the broken neurons of your mind, it is a socialist country.
These are two very different things.
Socialism is, by definition, anti-capitalist, it is of Marx (appropriately buried in London) & Engels whose eugencs stupidity it seems humanity will be forever plagued by.
If you are holding up the model of Switzerland as your socialist utopia you have failed in your central thesis of socialist righteousness because it is a capitalist economy which allows for its prosperity.
Now you will define for me what you think a purely socialist country looks like...apparently, Greece, Portugal, Spain, UK, Japan (LOL) etc. are out.
And so is the pseudo-monarchy of Canada by the way as the Queen of England retains the right (by Canadian law) to remove the elected (that would be, by the people) sitting Prime Minister via herGovernor General.
So what/where is it?
"Another thing you don't seem to get. This country was sold out to the corporate lobbyist. You haven't figured it out that the same source of money is telling you that the "Socialists" did it?"
Crony capitalists are socialists and are exactly who did it you blind fuck.
What do you think the word "crony" means in crony capitalist? Could it have anything to do with the state?...as in favorable and/or lax regulation?...ya think?
Capitalism requires the destruction of malinvestment.
True capitalists do not go running to mommy government for public money incentives, subsidies or bailouts...in true capitalism they are allowed to be destroyed by their own stupidity or failed business models. There was once this thing called short selling in a free market.
Do you propose FNM, FRE, GM, Chrysler, Citigroup, Bank of America et fucking al are symbols of true capitalism? I don't see them lying on the ash heap of history. They were/are government controlled & nominally "owned" by the private sector through worthless stock receipts are they not?
Isn't that fascism? And where did fascism come from Heir Heinrich? Intense nationalism combined with your statist pollyannish socialism?...hmmm?
I'm beginning to get bored with you defending a philosophy that's indefensible...make it good or don't bother.
I'll ignore the gratuitous slur....
Re: Switzerland, you seem to have problem understanding that a country can be socialist and have a capitalist economy. By your measure, Germany, France, Canada, Sweden and numerous others are not capitalist economies. That is news to me.
Looking at your writings, you really seem to be hung up on the word "socialism", you seem to use it as a blanket term for a lot of different forms of the political economy. Socialism does not mean "Central Planned Economy" or "The means of production lie within the hands of the State". That is Communism, and I agree that Communism is a failure. Nice on paper, but it don't fly, much like extreme Libertarianism.
Canada is a Consititutional Monarchy where the Queen is the nominal head of state. She does not appoint anyone, the GG is selected by the PM and rubber stamped in Westminister.
Well we do agree that capitalism requires that malinvestment needs to be destroyed. Let's look at what a true "socialist" government did when confronted with a banking crisis. Sweden's banks imploded like the US ones in the early nineties:
http://www.contrahour.com/contrahour/files/TheSwedishBankingCrisisRootsandConsequences.pdf
The Swedes nationalized the banks, fired the asshats in charge and then re-privitized them over the next few years. One the major causes was deregulation, sound familiar? Now "Socialist" Canadian banks weathered the crisis in 2008 better than any other banks because they were tightly regulated in their role as "public utilities".
I agree, the companies you mentioned are not symbols of true capitalism. They only survived because the directors privatized the profits and passed the losses on to the public. They gamed the system. While it is quaint to say "Socialism for the rich", it is really fascism bordering on feudalism. In feudalism the elite hold a special place where they are not held accountable for their actions and their taxes are relatively low compared to the general populace. Sound familiar?
I was apoplectic when TARP was rammed through. It was a goddam financial coup d'etat. The crisis of 2008 was the result a throwback to "laissez-faire" capitalism. The lesson is to be had is that the "Market" is not self-correcting, and if given a chance will go to such excess that it can/will destroy itself....
By any standard reading, fascism is the marriage of corporate and state interests. And we do agree that is the case here in the US. We also agree that the corporate lobbyists control this country. Yet, the "socialists" are blamed, go figger.
When are you going to comment on "Upward Mobility"?
"Switzerland, you seem to have problem understanding that a country can be socialist and have a capitalist economy."
Red herring.
You seem to have a problem understanding socialism limits individual liberty as a term of its very existence. All the countries you mention are highly restrictive on a persons natural right to defend themself and others with a gun...accept Switzerland. So it can be many things can't it?...and again, the SVP (deemed as free market by anyone's measure) is the majority party.
"Looking at your writings, you really seem to be hung up on the word "socialism", you seem to use it as a blanket term for a lot of different forms of the political economy."
I'm just as "hung up on the word socialism" as what are called progressives...they cannot bring themselves to call it socialism where I will and do.
"Socialism does not mean "Central Planned Economy" or "The means of production lie within the hands of the State". That is Communism, and I agree that Communism is a failure."
If you now refute Marx & Engels how can you defend socialism?...so I call bullshit.
"Canada is a Consititutional Monarchy where the Queen is the nominal head of state. She does not appoint anyone, the GG is selected by the PM and rubber stamped in Westminister."
Wrong.
The Queen of England does, in fact appoint him under advisement or not. She has the final say on his appointment and serves at her leisure, not the PM, who the GG can remove if ordered to do so by the Queen...by law. Sticky wicket what?
"Well we do agree that capitalism requires that malinvestment needs to be destroyed."
This can't go on...agreeing.
"Let's look at what a true "socialist" government did when confronted with a banking crisis...The Swedes nationalized the banks, fired the asshats in charge and then re-privitized them over the next few years. One the major causes was deregulation, sound familiar?"
I note the quotes...Sweden is another monarchy run as a "socialist" nation, that is, dead wood at the top...what is it with kings & queens with you people?
But yes, lets look at Sweden's problem that the crony capitalists held up as some sort of model to follow...that dickhead Barry Ritholz being one.
Sweden had and has a tax rate of almost 50% of wages earned. This is capital that goes directly out of the economy into government coffers. Now we can assume that being a moncarchy and a "socialist" utopia the real estate and banking boom fueled by debt (not savings) was approved at the highest reaches of government...can we not? It had less to do with deregulation and more to do with lack of real capital as a cushion IMO. And even if I were to concede the point of a "socialist" government allowing deregulation it would be the "socialist" governments fault for doing so.
I see dead crony people.
As far as nationalizing the banks & firing asshats...if they did anything illegal they should have been thrown in jail and their pilfering seized and placed back in the treasury...but that didn't happen as far as I can tell...sound familiar?
Now they also have a 25% VAT...at now, pushing 75% they might as well confiscate it all and see how that works out...but we already know how that works out don't we?
"I agree, the companies you mentioned are not symbols of true capitalism. They only survived because the directors privatized the profits and passed the losses on to the public. They gamed the system. While it is quaint to say "Socialism for the rich", it is really fascism bordering on feudalism. In feudalism the elite hold a special place where they are not held accountable for their actions and their taxes are relatively low compared to the general populace. Sound familiar?"
There you go again...this will have to cease or we can't have a decent fight.
"I was apoplectic when TARP was rammed through."
Well, the record of "progressive" votes speaks for itself...I deem "progressives" as socialists these days.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-26
"It was a goddam financial coup d'etat. The crisis of 2008 was the result a throwback to "laissez-faire" capitalism."
Horseshit. We have not had laissez-faire in at least a century.
"The lesson is to be had is that the "Market" is not self-correcting, and if given a chance will go to such excess that it can/will destroy itself...."
Not everyone was long AIG, FNM etc. ;-)
"By any standard reading, fascism is the marriage of corporate and state interests. And we do agree that is the case here in the US."
Ok...now you're getting on my good side...this will never do.
"We also agree that the corporate lobbyists control this country. Yet, the "socialists" are blamed, go figger."
Again, crony capitalism requires corrupt government officials to be successful...to be their bodyguard against market forces...like me and others, it is socialized risk that they place on the people through taxation & government debt, it is reinforcing the state over individuals, it is statism, it is currency devaluation, it has the form of socialism at its core.
"When are you going to comment on "Upward Mobility"?"
ROTFL!!!...as soon as one of the socialist monarchs you point out above steps down and appoints a serf as the replacement. It can be the Queen of England or the King of Sweden...either one will do.
You get the last word...
Since this has gone on for a while, I'll be short.
Switzerland requires and issues most males a rifle for the purposes of a common militia. Issued loads are checked and accounted for on a regular basis by the government. Otherwise, personal freedoms are very restricted in Switzerland. But what do I know, I only used to work/live outside Geneva. Switzerland is the essence of a "Nanny State"...
Your issue is with any form of statism. That is your problem as the State is here to stay in some form or another. Deal with it. I also suggest that you learn to differentiate between different forms of Statism. It would help make your arguments more coherent and consistent. Your understanding of what a Constitution Monarchy is also lacking...
Finally, one of the best measure of the sucess of a society is Upward Mobility. Once upon a time, the US was head and shoulders above the world. That is no longer the case. You have done nothing to refute that the "Socialist" countries in the G20 are now superior in that measure. I'll call that a win on my part...
"Otherwise, personal freedoms are very restricted in Switzerland. But what do I know, I only used to work/live outside Geneva. Switzerland is the essence of a "Nanny State"..."
So, you say its a socialist country/society eh?...checkmate ;-)
Ciao.
Hey, why don't you emigrate to Somalia? It is clear that you are very unhappy here. You would be free to pursue whatever your ambition is unfettered by the State.
You naive libertarian types that think freedom is the end all and be all. You got romantic illusion that you are capable of "fending for yourself" and that the "Free Market" will solve everything. You had better ban the Corporation along the path to your Nirvana... That "Free Market" is gonna eat your ass up and spit it out... You can't explain how to control the ambitions of the socio-paths out there that change your little paradise into real serfdom.
"Hey, why don't you emigrate to Somalia? It is clear that you are very unhappy here. You would be free to pursue whatever your ambition is unfettered by the State.
You naive libertarian types that think freedom is the end all and be all. You got romantic illusion that you are capable of "fending for yourself" and that the "Free Market" will solve everything. You had better ban the Corporation along the path to your Nirvana... That "Free Market" is gonna eat your ass up and spit it out... You can't explain how to control the ambitions of the socio-paths out there that change your little paradise into real serfdom."
This is ending better than I could have ever of hoped for, thank you, sincerely.
Like I said...checkmate.
Face it you lost....it is only a fool who claims victory in such a manner after you explictly stated that I would have the last word....
Still can't wrap your noggin around "Upward Mobility", couldn't face the facts, eh?
You don't even dare take on the issue and role of corporations in your Libertarian Nirvana.
Go back to your sweet dreams of bliss, your posturings are reminiscent of the hard left that thought Communism was the solution.
Somalia is calling you, perhaps you could explain to them how they should be doing it... Hah...
Till we meet again, but I do suggest that you brush up on your terminology, moving the goal posts is not a valid form of argument..
LMFAO! This completely made my friday, f'cking slayed me! +10
Flakmonster, you've been eviscerated. You and your kind will always be eviscerated, whether through the intellect (oh, return debate was indeed given), or the kukri, of free men.
Hey SG, when I want your opinion, I'll rattle my zipper, now go crawl back in your hole and STFU.
Fucks like you throw hollow threats and imbecilic name calling in a vain attempt to claim power you do not possess. You got spanked. In public. By a better man. Sucks to be you.
You fit in well here as you are paranoid enough to think that I threatened you when all I did was advise you to crawl back into your cave and STFU (something I still suggest).
You have been around here for quite a while I see, but I have never seen you make any substantial contribution aside from jumping in when you think it is safe.
Why don't you stand up on your own two feet, eh? This is Fight Club, quit hiding behind momma's apron....
I love how they always say "let's leave aside" X country's...you know...Greece, Portugal, Spain etc.
"They've always been basket cases"...but they never have an expression or thought or comprehension on why they should be left aside or have always been basket cases.
I had great fun with him...(he said something about, if I challenged him my ass would sting, very strange for a male...wink wink).
I'm laid up, recovering, bored, nothing better to do than drink a few beers (eat grits...LOL!!!) peel back some skin and fuck with the socialist rot inside.
Hey dipshit I was talking about upward mobility. If you want to compare Greece and Portugal as "Socialist failures", it is valid for me to bring up that libertarian nirvana Somalia.
Now run along and do what the corporations tell you to and be a good little sheeple while you get sheared and are left holding the bag...
BTW, the only skin you peel back is on the end of your dick....
"BTW, the only skin you peel back is on the end of your dick...."
Unlike a euro-trash ape like you...I have never had a penis infection...and I never will...you can see it better when you take it out of your mouth...POP!!!...see told ya so ;-)
damn flak, you are mean......
Naw, I only play by the rules that are defined by the other side....
GW, I salute your unending passion in the pursuit of truth and justice.
Thank you.
his passion in the pursuit of truth and justice ends Janauary 20, 2009. His criticism of government actions never reaches beyond that date.
Why does your post end in 2008? All the info and links you posted are rehashes from the past 8 years. How about a post on the current situation?
What about 2009-2011? What is being done to end the wars in the Muslim world? Why did we just "kill" a bunch of innocent men Pakistan? Why are we bombing Libya?
Hey guy, is G.W. supposed to be your personal superman? get off your ass and look for answers yourself. Whoee Wo! Milestones
Hey asswipe, keep your head stuck up his ass. Hoowee! sun tzu
IDK Zero Gov't....? What are you going to do?
When Obummer lies, a few go hungry, when Bush lied, thousands (millions) died....just sayin
We know you don't like any form of government, but will you keep watch 24/7 on your block, or will you trust your neighbor to keep you sfae when you want some shuteye with your girl? call it what you want, but you need allegiances somewhere. call it politics or neighborly duty, you still need a social decorum...
When Obummer lies, a few go hungry, when Bush lied, thousands (millions) died....just sayin
Yet Obama continues the wars based on Bush's lies and starts a third one in Libya where I'm sure nobody has been killed by the 800 tomahawk cruise missiles
Yes, we need local police departments. We don't need a federal police marching around with machine guns and jackboots. Besides, the police don't keep you safe. How many times has rape or murder in progress been stopped by the police? How many crimes have the federal police stopped?
All politicians, Bush, Obama, Clinton etc cannot be trusted. The same goes for career government bureaucrats. I've worked with them and know them well. Some are decent people, but they never make it to the top. The power hungry, backstabbing bastards make it to the top and proceed to throw their weight around. The bureaucracies are full of Ken Lay and George Soros types. That is why they should not have control over all aspects of our lives. They have proven that they are corrupt liars and murderers who are too easily bought off.
That's why you have the Law of the Street...fuck with me or my family, and that's where we're takin' it. The people ARE very willing and able to govern themselves, dont'cha know...