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Black Gold From The Heavens: Oil Rain In Louisiana?
"It is literally raining oil" proclaims the narrator in this RT video, who observes what appear to be puddle of oil following a heavy rainfall in the Louisiana area. We have not received independent confirmation of this phenomenon elsewhere but this is very troubling, and certainly possible considering the amount of oil burned and washed ashore as part of the spill recovery effort.
h/t Eric
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What do you think it is 10W30? How hard is it to understand what is coming out of the well? The "crude" is a mixture of gases, liquids and solids that could contain thousands of different "things". Each thing will react according to it's own molecular composition.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-06/993247923.Ch.r.html
And yes it can "rain" some of the "things" in the crude. Some things will vaporize on their own depending on ambient pressure and heat. Once a vapor they can either rise into the atmosphere or hang low close to the water/ground. They can also bind with water vapor that is at every altitude from 0 - hundreds of thousands of feet. Once bound with water they can fall as rain. Many molecules do not need water to bind with. They will form a vapor and rise. They will condensate and fall depending on pressure and temperature.
Start the crude on fire and all kinds of chemical changes will happen to the things in the crude.
The gulf States should have been evacuated immediately!!!!
Wow... If I heard right then its "River Ridge, LA" which is 50 miles inland. If this is true, then oh my..
Anything that can be suspended in air -- smoke, chemicals -- will be washed out by the rain. Haven't you heard it's not a good idea to drink unfiltered rain water? It's because of the pollution it picks up.
NOLA is about 16' below sea level. Mardi Gras attendees are too
snockered up to recall French Quarter smells as less than quant:
All that piss and shit via lift stations gets pumped away, mostly
untreated into the mighty mississipp. I propose directing all spewing
oil from the BP gash, back to NOLA, where it can be recovered,
separated and refined. You're welcome.
Will BP now sue those collecting 'thier' oil from the streets?
The prevailing breeze is always from the South East from May until October. The time to burn has past. Meanwhile, the thin skinned cockroach sheriff of Rock Ridge worries about his ego and honor by removing McChrystal and inserting Petraeus. Petraeus will be needed here soon enough to put down the coming revolt and riots. Hopefully Petraeus will side with his heart and the people, by localizing the war to Washington DC- where the enemy stronghold resides.
If this rain turns out to be flammable, a whole lot of people are going to be showing up at church.
I just tried to evaporate a quart of 10w40 in my microwave. It stinks but no rain yet.
mix about a gallon of water with it and then tell us what happens to your microwave. Hopefully, you have enough cash to go buy a new one. LOL
There goes the second IPAD.
Well, I can say this to the naysayers, it hasn't rained here in about 3-4wks in NC, and it just rained heavy this evening, and I went out to the street and my street didn't look like the one in the video. Nor did the drains, nor did the grass. This pretty much debunks the oily road crap people are spewing. I have seen the oil was from the roads before, but it happens just after it starts to rain, and is why driving is more dangerous just as it starts to rain, rather than raining for some time. So there must be something to it being real. The amount of water you see in the dude's yard tells you it has been raining for a while, and the oil is in all of it, especially the large puddles. The brown goop on the storm drain is enough evidence for me to believe it, since I have been looking at alot of pictures and video of the animals dying in this oil mess, and it looks the same.
Just saying, don't discount it, until its proven otherwise by citizens, because I wouldn't believe one damn thing this government or BP claimed.
Actual oil rain wouldnt be confined to a you tube video. Fox news and cnn would have a special report with a sensational "DEADLY RAIN" or " DEATH FROM THE CLOUDS" graphic. in the background.
Any time it rains on a road, the water displaces the oil and brings it to the surface, resulting in an oily sheen.
"Where is the outrage by all those private citizens and organizations who would drive a thousand miles to save a redwood?" "60 plus days into this mess and where are the environmental people demanding heads on pikes?"
Not trying to inflame here, buttttt... Maybe they looked in the mirror and saw that they are just as guilty as everyone else they would be chastising?
I am guilty too. I started up a diesel pickup and drove to work this morning - by myself. I could have carpooled or rode a steer into work (had I left yesterday afternoon), or I could buy a moped, or ride my bike, or even walk the 22 miles. Do I really need to start the tractor up to set out hay in the morning? Couldn't I just roll those 1200 lb. bales downhill into the pastures?
We demand that we have petroleum products to power our vehicles, make the plastic cases for our flat-screen TV's and iPads. We scream when the price gets too high. What a price we are paying now.
Okay, I have posted a few posts on ZeroHedge in past week. One criticism about some of my posts, and others - is there is too much wild speculation, not enough expert knowledge - and I agree - but also think that getting "wild ideas" out on the forum - it does serve a good purpose - it might spark an idea, and someone with expertise may follow up - or refute the idea conclusively. Anyway, I was intrigued with this idea that of oily rain could happen. My general feeling after watching that youtube video from Lousiana - was, that the narrator didn't come across as sophisticated - he seemed to be honestly reporting what he was seeing. What I hate - more than wild speculation - I hate so much more, people who simply say something isn't true - only because they have never heard of it before - really annoying - why don't you make a little effort before just dismissing that it cant possibly be raining oil? So, I spent the past two hours googling h] the idea - and if anyone has a few hours to read - I just stumbled on a motherlode of info on toxicity of spills - it is like taking an excellent college course on the subject - well woth skimming this document. http://www.nature.nps.gov/hazardssafety/toxic/crudeoil.pdf It is dropdead fascinating - excellent source - and, I found, near the end of it, a discussion of how oil spills are dispersed, and, this lilttle segment talks about oil particles travelling on winds, check this out: aeolian transport (when oil
droplets become airborne and are blown long distances by
strong winds).
following physical, chemical and biological processes [713]:
-PHYSICAL: spreading (thinning of the oil slick); dispersion
(by wind); movement (by currents or gravity flow);
dissolution; sedimentation or settling; emulsification;
evaporation or volatilization; aeolian transport (when oil
droplets become airborne and are blown long distances by
strong winds).
-CHEMICAL: photolysis or photooxidation or photodegradation;
oxidation or chemical degradation.
-BIOLOGICAL: microbial degradation or biodegradation
RT is the go to source of information for knowledgeable viewers. It is the future of global media.
:)
Re: is there is too much wild speculation, not enough expert knowledge
This is a financial website !
I can see the trailers for The Beverly Hillbillies II already...
"Down from the sky came a bubbling crude... Black Gold, Louisianna Tea"
ok, so their cajun in this version...
It's raining (oil) men! Hallelujah!
Yes oil might fall from the sky. Yes frogs may fall from the sky.
Question is - how many million tons of frog have to fall from the sky to damage the crops and commerce? Same question with oil. A small unusual event in a limited area is interesting but not economy destroying.
That is a terribly insane suggention.
Burned oil is now oil rain.
If it was burned, how the heck is it onshore?
Oh, Now I understand. Bullshit that is burned with being exposed never goes away on the internet. Matt Simmons has provided 13,000 ft of it, or maybe 100,000 # of it.
Yes, another controversial YT/Google video that magically has more comments than views, but we're idiots to be a little suspicious? I'm suspicious of my own suspicions these days, but even moreso of people that automatically coin something like this "bullshit". I don't know if it happened, and you don't know either.
Forrest Gump still doing walkabout? WTF kind of video is this?
Well, quite obviously, very small amounts of many of the components of crude oil - the gases, the heavy metals- mixed with small amounts of chemicals in the dispersants - very small amounts of these raining on land- will very likely have long-term effects, resulting in some increase in genetic mutations, and effecting hormone balances. I don't think that any biologist would dispute that - IF these chemicals WERE spread in the atmosphere- and in rain - and if this CONTINUED for a significant period - that it WOULD cause detectable problems. I live in Washington State - so, this effects me only indirectly- but, IF I lived along the Gulf States- and was raising my children there - I would be very seriously considering moving. If the time comes, and it very may happen after a hurricane- that, like the guy in the Youtube video- people start SMELLING chemicals in the air - well, even if it wasn't sickening them - the POSSIBILTY that it could, would make people miserably worried. This would spread rapidly thru a community - once some people start saying they feel sick- others will too - it will be very hard to figure out what is real, and what is imagined. How many times have you been in a hi-rise bldg - and slmelled smoke or an electrical smell? You really focus on it. If, in the next few weeks, people start smelling some sort of odor - they are going to start getting worried - this will further devastate the local economies. How many billions of gallons of oil mixed with dispersant can pour into the ocean, before people start smelling it?
Your wild accusations that defy the laws of physics are doing wonders for our tourism. ZH, meet reputation risk. Y'all are officially worse than the national enquirer. Thanks, assholes!
no rain say this gent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjTTKo4Lno
edit - oil
This is more scary than funny. I was just watching the reattaching process of the LMRP to the BOP between 8-10PM EST. While the 'cap' is now in place, it is still spewing oil from the bottom. There was no connection between the pipe and the cap as of 9 PM or so. Yet the Wall Street Journal posts this at 10:51 PM EST:
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100623-714346.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gIXWYBTpLtSayJtg41LKXpxSxVPAD9GHCGR00
So - a) the AFP has the script of a screenplay and accidentally released it a couple of hours too early, and/or with the wrong timestamp, or b) the supposedly 'live' ROV feeds of the well are delayed by 4 hours or so, or c) BP thinks shaving 3-4 hours off 'full-stream' spillage is worth lying to the media about while the damn thing is being broadcast live, or d) all of the above.
If this keeps up, everyone will be black.
Disclaimer: Not intended to be a racist comment.
In the chocolate city.
Hi All,
I am in a little situation here, and it could be I had this wrong. I was talking to my husband about BP. I told him that I had read that one of the first things that Obama did was to call in snipers to the wells when this "accident" happened. My husband thinks I am full of shit. I have googled snipers and BP and various other iterations and I have not found anything. Was I wrong? Do any of you know of articles that can document this better than here say? My husband is ex-military, he is insisting on harder proof. He has told me that even if I read it in the mainstream media, that they lie.
Any help you can give, even if it turns out I am wrong, would be appreciated. It would seem that a lot more is at stake than I thought which is why I am asking for this help.
I have no idea as to the veracity of these stories, but if you google "swat oil rigs gulf" you get a lot of results from both "respectable" news sites and fringe sources:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/29/national/main6444311.shtml
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/04/oil_spill_the_gover...
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-sending-swat-teams-to-inspect-gulf-...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/04/29/obama_announces_he_wil...
It may be the use of hyperbole; SWAT in this case may refer to inspection teams from MMS that were supposedly sent to 30 other rigs (see second link). However, the prez is on video saying it which should lend weight - but perhaps his remarks were not thoroughly vetted beforehand. Eerie, in any case.
Good luck.
SWAT means Special Weapons and Tactics. Likely it means that they sent out a regular bomb squad demolition style swat team to check the well for weapons damage and to rule out sabotage of some sort.
Thanks to both of you. SWAT is definitely the communication issue. I said sniper and that started a chain of events that wasn't working too well for me. He finds the SWAT claim to be lame too, SWAT teams are attached to police, etc. He thinks a bunch of inspectors may have decided they needed guns and decided to call themselves a SWAT team. Snipers on an oil rig would be silly. What are you going to shoot at what distance?
Still does not negate the weirdness of the first choices regarding the oil spill.
Thanks again.
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Off the top of my head:
Mississippi's Learning
New Oil-leans
Sweet Crude Alabama
I want 5% ;) - gross profits, not net!
The only thing new in this world is the history you don't know
Harry Truman.
I moved me and mine up to the mountains, but I will always be a Cajun boy. I don't need me no chocolate nothing. I can only wish that I had a target that I could focus my muscle, blood, anger, and lead unto death. Alas the world has passed us by and a slow degradation is all I can see.
From my grandpap's time (1927)? Listen and feel what is left of my heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGs2iLoDUYE&NR=1