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The BlackRock - Bank Of America Ownership Catch 22

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It is well known that Bank of America owns 34% of BlackRock via a legacy position inherited from Merrill Lynch, arguably the most valuable part of the business. As of today, the stake is worth around $11.5 billion. Yet what may be a little less known is that BlackRock has also returned the favor, and is now the largest holder of Bank of America, owning 5.35% of the outstanding BAC shares, for a total value of $6.6 billion. Does that mean that there is a wash in there somewhere? Who cares. But one thing that certainly is involved, is a massive conflict of interest, especially in the context of litigation. And a big question mark - to claim that BlackRock is willing to impair a nearly $7 billion investment is naive. Instead, due to the incestuous nature of Wall Street, and the cross pollination of MBS holders, is today's action merely a ploy to get some of the more "impacted" parties to promptly settle and eliminate any possible future litigation? PIMCO, for one, and the FRBNY fir another, have the most to lose if the MBS crisis escalates, and if all MBS are unwound. Which means that somehow this is simply another diversion, with the real action taking place somewhere. We hope to figure it out before everyone has settled amicably and the whole fraudclosure is swept under the rug.

Bank of America Holders:

BlackRock Holders:

Source: CapitalIQ

PS: the BLK holdings are not purely index. Stripping out index contribution still hs BLK at the top, when one removes the State Street and Vanguard index contribution.


 

 


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Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:53 | Link to Comment His Dudeness
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"Meet me later in the gymnasium, next to the dumbbells... you'll know me, I'll be wearing a hat."

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Let them all fail
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Anyone notice the quick spike in SPY today?

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/SPY

Sure great to see after the same problem in the opposite direction AH yesterday....

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 22:20 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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I have seen those spikes quite often on Google finance often.  I figure it is just a problem with their database, but now I am thinking there might be more to it.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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and it will be swept un the rug. Always been like that and now will be no different.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Cdad
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So many more people watching this time.  So much information out there not controlled by the MSM.  Don't see any rug sweeping.  Crooked price action, yes.  Crooked SEC-LOOK-OTHER-WAY...sure.  But no hiding under the rug.  I don't see that at all.

And so what we are talking about, in the most serious sense, is the republic, rule of law, order, facism.  These are the things we are talking about in all of this.

Either way, light is shining on it all.  And yes, we are almost certainly freakin' doomed.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Korg
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Doomed is right. Wait until after the election, then the real fireworks begin!

My Prediction:  In December the govt takes over Fannie/Freddie/ andTBTF banks like BOA to "solve" the Fraudclosure mess and halt the tidal wave of lawsuits. Citizens go apeshit....dollar crashes.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 02:15 | Link to Comment I am a Man I am...
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Uh..you're late, that's already happened.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 21:58 | Link to Comment RecoveringDebtJunkie
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Agreed. People are angry and increasingly desperate. The power elites sweeping this under the rug would be like Tiger Woods becoming a spokesman for abstinence and people actually listening to him. Impossible.

Nothing every gets swept under the rug anyway. Some problems may be partially covered up, but the negative sentiment just keeps on building up at an accelerated pace. We're already seeing the effects of disintegrating social cohesion.

http://peakcomplexity.blogspot.com/2010/10/fear-loathing-in-united-states.html

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment HarryWanger
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Agreed. Been my feeling since the story "broke". Elections coming, you won't hear about this much longer.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Cdad
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I see.  Could not disagree more.  But I'm sure you are next going to say "apple" which makes you freakin' irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

Just wondering...did you see your rally end today?  I did.

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:28 | Link to Comment HarryWanger
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Where you been? I haven't been long AAPL for a long time now. Sold at 289 in late September as I noted on this site at the time I sold. 

Regardless, this will go away with a whimper. Even ZH is now seeing that judging from the end of this post.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Harry,

Where have I been?  Here...reading your posts along with everybody else's posts.  As for your position...I have no idea...but earlier today you were talking about dip buyers on aapl.  Is that really what you saw?

I saw a bounce...met with f'n desperate sellers.  To each his own, I guess.

But what is your question?  Are you denying that you constantly post AAPL?  Seriously?  Shall we link your constant aapl posts?  Do you think I have the memory of a gold fish?

I am new here...but I'm not stupid.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 18:55 | Link to Comment Arkadaba
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Sorry Cdad I have to stick up for Harry. (OK - that just sounds wrong but ....)

He is one the few commentators that came and saw and was conquered. Which is a huge - so many won't make that change regardless of what reality throws in their face.

Yep, still talks about AAPL a little too much but understands there are dislocations in the market. And by playing day-to-day, guessing he has made out ok.

:-P

 

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:30 | Link to Comment Bob
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Found this on another thread:

THIS WAS REPORTED 12 MONTHS AGO BY:::

*** BOB CHAPMAN ***

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trLcH868ld4

 

Based on alleged insider reports.  Interesting if BAC was selected as the bad bank fall guy.  If the public were to feel sympathy for any bank, would it not be the "Bank of America"?  Kinda pulls at your patriot strings, doesn't it? 

I don't think there's gonna be any TARP for anybody, just sayin'. 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 22:00 | Link to Comment HedgeOn
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So BAC is the "bad bank" like the RTC for the failed S&L's?  This is how it's supposed to get done?  And Gross loads up on the toxic mortgages weeks before so he can pull down some more return while he shivs BAC stockholders in the process.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:57 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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This is how it gets settled.

$65 million dollar fine to banks. Thats just how shit rolls nowadays.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Rainman
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Let's just call it the WrapAround Boogie.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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heh

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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Keep and eye on the left hand. The artistry of deception.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:36 | Link to Comment knukles
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Absolutely, positively must be a deception from where the real money lies; else the VampireSquid would be right there at the front of the line already taking its turn cornholeing  the poor bastard bent over the fuck your buddy stump.

Holy Jesus.  Amazing visuals.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Bob
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Agreed, that was good.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 02:20 | Link to Comment I am a Man I am...
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Something doesn't make sense here, where is GS?  They brokered a ton of these mbs's.  They must be the innocent conduit.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 06:35 | Link to Comment LMAO
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Yep, that's the real stinker!

It is not even remotely possible that GS is not the architect of this new ploy to scam. All the actors are on stage but what about GS? There's some movement behind the curtains but I can't figure it out just yet.

I guess we have to wait for the final act upon which the director of this play steps forward to receive a standing ovation from the FED, WS and the rest of the racket.

LMAO

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Geoff-UK
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House Bill 4502, Creation of Government-Sponsored Enterprise to Provide Title Insurance, "Bank Reserve for National Title Insurance for Mortgages" Association:

aka creation of "Barney Mae" GSE

Saddle U.S. taxpayers with the liability of clouded titles = problem solved!!!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Logans_Run
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Isn't that the Barnie GAE--government appropriation and extortion?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:52 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Barney GAE!! +1

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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The big hole is the mortgage insurers who look far worse, and systemically far more important to the continued operation of the GSE's and the housing market ponzi than the monolines ever were to Wall Street or the muni market. Since the MI's are going down the fed needs to bring these functions directly under its direct control.

Especially with the access under law the MI's still enjoy.  Can't have that kind access, paper trail and institutional knowledge floating around unattended..

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:01 | Link to Comment SteveNYC
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I'm thinking more along the lines of:

1) Scare people again

2) TARP2 / QE2 force-through attempt

 

Not sure it will fly this time though.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Yep...I can see the attempt.  But I don't think it will fly...not without extreme damage and public chaos.  The forces involved will not want to take that damage.

More likely money printin, dollar weakness, MBS support via the Fed....and AMERICAN RAGE THAT FINALLY CRASHES THE GATES OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK!  And that would be worth the pain of the chaos...for we would be free [more free] from this monster.

This is the real issue...uncle Ben.  Good grief.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:06 | Link to Comment CU1981
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Cdad,

 

Welcome to the Asylum.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Cdad
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I thank you for your welcome.  Where is the meds cabinet?  Chop, chop...I am losing it quickly.

 

Did you see Lockhart this morning?   

 

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:39 | Link to Comment CU1981
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Just playing my friend.

 

Go big or go home...

 

I'm going home . ;-)

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:07 | Link to Comment ReallySparky
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I had two family members call today and ask, "What's going on with the Markets?".  (BTW, I told them to get out of the markets months ago.) I agree on the fear issue, however Tyler does bring up an interesting point regarding with respect to the real story under all this.  I am sure we will find out shortly after the elections.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Yeah, I have no clue about your comment or his, about the "real story."  I think the real story is laying right there, in the light, full on.  It is the incestuous nature of Wall Street. 

Listen, we all know now how this freakin' ponzi scheme works.  It [Wall] is on both sides of all trades, and it moves, by degrees, against the herd...when it thinks that is the best bet.  So the banks are being crammed down by today's headlines.  So let us call it...accumulation.  It has great tricks and techniques..and we can see them transacting where Average Joe cannot.  We see the rules being violated.  Just check your SPY charts tonight.  Million dollar lots above the HOD.  ?  Curious?  Just using another exchange...taking advantage of the SECs lack of ability in any way shape or form...or it's lack of integrity...whichever...does not matter.

And so it is all actually much simpler for me.  Just prosecute.  Period.  Perp walks.  Not cancelled trades...perp walks.  And if the SEC cannot do that, fire the SEC...and repopulate...which brings us back to the Republic.

That is what we are talking about.  F@ck BofA!  I could care less if every branch closed.  Rather justice prevail.  The question is, are we serious about our republic.  If that is the implied question buried within Tyler's question about who or what or things I cannot see, my apologies. 

Just sayin'....

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:14 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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I keep trying to subscribe to your F@ck newsletter, but it keeps bouncing.  FWIW, nice summary.

 

Side node - for those who complain about CAPTCHA, 16 times one equals =??

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:25 | Link to Comment SDRII
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JUst go listen to the GS call and how the banks are each other counterparties re tearing up bilateral correlation trading books. Presto risk weighted assets "mitigated" If that alone doesnt tell you all you nee to know about the value proposition of this toxicity nothing will

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Rainman
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The 2s are an odds on favorite. Lame duck critters will be compliant and exceptionally dangerous in crisis mode. They'll be looking for a real job. Google "Phil Gramm".

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 01:42 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Seriously Steve--other than people in finance, does anyone even catch the words QE when they are reading or listening to the news? No trick question here, people don't know what is going on and frankly even if you know what is going on you can't miss the fact that it is pure and simply graft that is sanctioned by our legislators.

SO with the 9 trillion missing at the Fed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlxBeAvsB8 ) and no further QE i am thinking each and every living US citizen (300,000,000) could have gotten a check for $30000 and this would have gone a long way on preventing foreclosures...

Instead we have (http://huffpostfund.org/stories/2010/10/new-tax-man-big-banks-and-hedge-funds )
primary dealers and their affiliate hedge funds, using the fed window
to borrow at 0.0-0.25% to make a leveraged buyout (buying tax notes across America)  from distressed owners across America-- a government sanctioned grab at the gold of the heartland…and these were the entities that were toosacredtofail and will be receiving a fresh batch of blood (another trillion$ or two) from QE2 (quantitative easing) while people are getting their overdue tax notes sold to the TBTF banks and their legal arms shark the overstressed owner with thousands of extra dollars of legal expenses to put the nail in the coffin in the idea that there is any hope for them to maintain their property.
 
Would it have been so bad to have been told honestly in the fall of 2008 that our federal reserve system was failed and that the treasury was taking it over to create a facility to make sure the US citizen would have no worries over their deposits, and offer a 3% refinance loan to all people who were distressed and unable to get refinancing on a loan that they probably didn't even understand to begin with?  Instead their mortgage was sold, so that later, the defrauded mortage recipient has no recourse.
  
in the meantime, we still have no word from the Senate about when/if S604 (a law proposed to audit the fed, will ever get heard/passed) --  Is it better that these TBTF (the anointed toobigtofail) are getting money at zero-0.25%, to buy treasuries, that, depending on their duration, earn 0.25-3.0%, then they get an extra 0.25% on all excess reserves, plus the fed earns 6%b on 1% of all excess reserves, (and their balance sheet has TRIPLED in the last two years?) and then using these huge reserves as margin to leverage 20x to buy securities knowing what the President's Working Group is planning on doing so effectively front running everyone?
 
I think the honesty choice would have simply saved our country--and honesty now might still save us.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 02:58 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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You are back !  Thwack !!   Nothing but net !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbmW7CY0sBw

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 13:07 | Link to Comment agrotera
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Miles, you crack me up, and thank you for your sweet words!!!

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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What can I say?  I love to watch ya play, LeBronna.  Especially since you appreciate the fun that can be had at practice.  Unlike the subjects of your commentary ... who seem to want to make a practice of outta playing their tired assed game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJDRgVwcP8

All hail LeBronna!  heh  Ya, I have missed you, and I'm sure to get this welcome home outta my system soon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhJZXOWNdMM

Especially since we both dislike those negative waves being generated in the Vegas wave pool .. knowing that happy crappy doesn't stay there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ

Ya, a threefer.. I know  I know  I'll be quiet now and go back to my research before the library monitor corners ya in staff since that would be an epic waste of your time

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:09 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I just realized why the FED is suing BAC (and probably all the other banks)...and it's not good.

This now becomes a Federal case and effectively shuts down all the investigations as well as all the charges being brought against the banks by the AG's of all 50 states. The AG's are more likely to seek criminal charges while the FED is more likely to cut a "bank friendly" deal.

The banks just won...again.

We have been hijacked.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:23 | Link to Comment cossack55
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But the FED is not an agency of the USFEDGOVT.  Kind of like the Waffen SS was not really part of the SS and never really hurt anyone.  Oh, and the Gestapo was just overdressed police.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Lapri
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Oh crap...

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Lapri
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FBI is butting in. (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Banks-unlikely-to-quell-apf-3419464958.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=)

Meanwhile, a federal law enforcement official says the FBI is in the initial stages of trying to determine whether the financial industry may have broken criminal laws in the mortgage foreclosure crisis.

The law enforcement official says the question is whether some in the industry were acting with criminal intent or were simply overwhelmed by events in the wake of the housing market's collapse. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is just getting under way.

They are federalizing it so that taxpayers can bail everyone out, again.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Bob
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The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is just getting under way.

WTF?

Just getting underway?  How have these guys been spending their time--watching B & D internet porn?

WTF?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:10 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Cannibalism...they will eat their own in order to survive.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:12 | Link to Comment RobotTrader
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Only amount of days....

Perhaps hours....

When Uncle Gorilla wakes up and decides out outright nationalize the entire mortgage sector.

Then what happens?

All those OTC Derivatives/Squared/Cubed, etc. will be vaporized and cancelled out.

And the only OTC Deriviatives remaining will be on the balance sheet of gold producers who had them foisted upon them by nefarious Canadian investment banks.

Any wonder why those horrid stocks underperform the bullion?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:17 | Link to Comment assumptionblindness
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And the worldwide implications would be...UGLY...so we have been 'sold'

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:55 | Link to Comment doolittlegeorge
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fascinating thought actually. isn't it in the interest to short the banks given the certainty of too big to fail?  and as if on cue "Goldman surged today."  I agree "the government is none too pleased" but what are they doing?  BUYING EVERYTHING???!!!  Incredible.  If i didn't see it with my own eyes i wouldn't believe it possible.  The American people are angry and "only Republicans like Wall Street"?  HAHAHAHAHA.  What a...a...i don't know what to call it actually.  Perhaps a "Space Oddity" as we go "full on Major Tom" here.  Outright nationalization?  "Here's your protein pill now put your helmet on."  The only thing....even more...more...Major would be "Gold at $3000."  In the meantime "state pensions are..." and "the war is..." and "I'm so and so and want your vote because..."

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:56 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Do you actually believe that would happen?  Seriously?  Don't you think it is an INCREDIBLE stretch between buying some MBS...and nationalizing the entire world of finance?

Nice question:  "Then what happens?"  Presumes the question/suggestion is not stupid.  Nice.  Hong Kong...is that you?  It represents a very Hong-Kong-limited-imagination-problem/characteristic.  Typical.

Harry was by here...he is looking for you...give him a call.

The stupidity of this point is trumped only by your lack of understanding of the gold sector...but hey...float another trial balloon.

So here is your quiz robo:

"Any wonder why those horrid stocks underperform the bullion?"  Why is the answer to this stupid question obvious?  Talk amongst yourselves. 

I have hit the wall on patience with stupid people.  My apologies to all.

Good grief.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:49 | Link to Comment Kina
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Harvey Organ's take on the Gold take-down by the crims.

http://harveyorgan.blogspot.com/

Wonder the price of gold in USD ex the manipulating cartel + CTFC buddies.

US and European economies possibly on their way to hell, China, Korea buy gold...time to sell gold ...yeh right.

I'm considering adding to bullion and gold stocks as they take a hit.

 

Gold today was whacked with the cover of a major Chinese Government announcement that they were going to raise interest rates by 0.25% to slow down torrid demand.   The banking cartel used this cover to massively provide unbacked paper gold and silver on the comex.  Please do not worry,  Gold and silver will resume its northernly trajectory.
and......
The total gold comex OI (open interest) rose to 638,372 from yesterday's level of 636,759.  The gain was 2,013 contracts and this puts the open interest in record territory.
Tue, 10/19/2010 - 18:35 | Link to Comment AUD
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"if the MBS crisis escalates, and if all MBS are unwound."?

It seems no one cares, gold down USD35!

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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That's the Paulson affect as he liquidates some of his holdings to get more mezz CMBS on margin

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:09 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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I think it is hilarious, or more likely sad, that this is happening the week that the SEC was supposed to start litigating with Mozillla. Does $67 million still seem like a big settlement Shemp, I mean Schapiro?

Rest assured, the rats are scurrying under the decks and we are not seeing the full story here.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:19 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Them, That's Not .. it, but you're getting closer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEx2T1NLsqw

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 19:33 | Link to Comment blunderdog
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BlackRock is willing to impair a nearly $7 billion investment

Isn't the obvious hedge a good enough explanation?

Either BoA remains TBTF, gets backstopped, and all the MBS buyers get their money back through a routine and taxpayer-funded putback program, or BoA gets slaughtered and the creditors are forced to fight over whatever slivers they can strip from the remains.

Get the lawsuit rolling:

...to increase the obvious threat to BoA and increase likelihood of some emergency Federal bailout action.

...to ensure that you've got multiple claims to some kind (any kind, please for the love of dog) of return when BoA is torn to pieces.

Looks like a double-down on the best case (Fed bailout, more free money, yay) and a hedge against the worst case (BoA completely destroyed, shareholders wiped out, OHNOEZ).

Simple enough that it could be sufficient explanation?  Principle of parsimony, no?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:18 | Link to Comment ghostfaceinvestah
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Cross ownership of shares, wasn't this a problem in another "two lost decades and counting" industrialized country?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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And some folks still think all Larry, timmay & Ben did in that situation was talk

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 20:48 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Tue, 10/19/2010 - 21:12 | Link to Comment Kina
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And at GATA

 

Eric Sprott interviewed on gold and QE2

Section:

9:43p ET Monday, October 18, 2010

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

Financial journalist Ron Hera has gotten an interview with Sprott Asset Management Chairman and CEO Eric Sprott that covers gold market manipulation as well as the declining usefulness of government "stimulus" programs. The interview is headlined "Eric Sprott on Gold and QE2" and you can find it at GoldSeek here:

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1287410400.php

And at 321Gold here:

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/hera/hera101810.html

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Mercury
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RE: that HDS screen...

PS: the BLK holdings are not purely index. Stripping out index contribution still hs BLK at the top, when one removes the State Street and Vanguard index contribution.

What about Barclays ETFs which are a sub of BLK?

Tue, 10/19/2010 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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As I stated before it didn't make sense for them to go after B of A when they know damn good and well that they don't have the money to bail them out.  I still don't see there plan of trying to get some of them to settle will work.  Because once they did what they did today, they made a beachhead for others in the US and across the planet to force buyback (it's coming just wait and see).  And these people will be wanting buybacks from not just B of A but also Citi and Goldman Sachs and any other bond issuer big or small who may have securitized and put out this junk.  Their plan is short sighted and essentially what they did was to pull the tigers tail and hope that the tiger goes after the raw meat 5 feet from them.  This may be the Hailmary of the financial sector hoping above all hope that they can pull something out of this mess.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 00:32 | Link to Comment snowball777
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Maybe it's a twisted take on an LBO; crash their shares and then buy a bigger chunk of the ruins.

Wed, 10/20/2010 - 10:38 | Link to Comment tupac shakur
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This is wonderfully reminiscent of the Japanese market, where companies purchased shares in each other in order to avoid reality. Despite widespread criticism, the practice is increasing, not decreasing, over the past few years. "Under the practice, groups of interrelated companies and their main creditor bank, as well as customers and suppliers, will buy each other's shares to insulate themselves from market pressures." Forbes http://tinyurl.com/2ce43j3

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