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Bleaker Fed Fund Outlook Now Than At Bottom Of Market

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The poll for what the Fed Fund Rate will be on December 16 indicates that a progressively higher number of people see no chance of a rate increase (or vote in the 0.25% bracket) compared to a majority who in March saw a marginal increase to 0.5%. Inflation - good luck with that. The people have spoken, and deflation is here to stay.




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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Eduardo
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This piece of CrapNBC must be watched. Look at the face of the bitch while telling her lies. Also is incredible the complacency ass sucking behavior of the so called journalists the entire thing appear to be scripted.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/32315226

 

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:36 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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no more CNBS commercials! stay away from the link!!!

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:08 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 16:20 | Link to Comment cbxer55
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I gave up watching them some time earlier this year, when I got tired of creamer. Now I just send them a nasty-gram using their "fast-mail" about once a week. Everyone should do the same, Forget they exist completely.

I refuse to even watch posted links.

CNBS is persona non grata.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Dayton Ohio
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ECHO

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:15 | Link to Comment dnarby
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IMO any time someone talks robotically like that they are usually lying and/or under stress.  It's indicative of someone very carefully choosing their words.

 

She gets a little looser once she starts rolling, but there's still microhesitations indicating she's being reaaaaly careful.

 

Looks to me like they need more retail to buy into the correction.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Just wait for real deflationary expectations to set in..

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:45 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Goldman Sachs' Cohen: New bull market has begun

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Goldman-Sachs-Cohen-New-bull-rb-2503580416...

Time to get out!

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:56 | Link to Comment D.O.D.
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Man I am so glad I sold those GS calls this AM, in n out baby...

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:48 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Steak
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To the best of my understanding the weak dollar is not reflecting deflation expectations.  The weak dollar is more reflective of growth/inflation expectations and is part of what gets people banging blunt objects against their heads...since the answers to the questions where is the growth and is it sustainable are nowhere and no.

In a macro sense investors are willing to sell dollars for "risk" currencies and assets.  If one expects deflation then one would be more worried about return OF their capital as opposed to return ON their capital, and consequently would put on a "flight to safety" trade that includes selling risk assets and buying the dollar.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Steak
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Be mindful that at least in historical examples (US 1870's and 1930's and Japan since 1990) deflation rules for several years and can conceivably go on for decades.  But inflation scares can get people to take opposite trades intermittently.  These are cyclical bulls in secular bear markets.

Deflation WILL win out over this re-flation trade, but when exactly that reversal will come is the trillion dollar question.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:18 | Link to Comment dnarby
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Agreed.  We need to have a lot of scared congresscritters willing to clean house to keep their jobs.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 14:54 | Link to Comment BustaKeaton
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I would like to see them negative. In this case they could pay GS and the others publicly... But its their own money!

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Gilgamesh
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They are already paying them - via reserve deposit interest.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:08 | Link to Comment demsco
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I think you have to decouple the theory of interest rates and inflation. Even if inflation hit big time in Q3 Ben will not raise rates, too risky politically. Not only that but the dollars decline will certainly feel like inflation. If gold is at 960 an ounce now with deflation, then I can't wait for even normalcy to come back because it will be to da moon then.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:39 | Link to Comment Hondo
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I find it very hard to believe that the type of recovery the g-shooters are talking about comes without inflation.  I don't believe you'll have any recovery that the consumer will participate in so I'm not worries about inflation in the short-term.  But the g-shooters think you can have both.

Thu, 08/06/2009 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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