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BP plc And The Administration Replace First Amendment With $40,000 Fine And Class D Felony

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CNN's Anderson Cooper, one of the few people who apparently hasn't or isn't leaving the troubled news network (surely Ted Turner has learned by now from CNBC that his female anchors should wear transparent body suits, show belly button deep cleavage, and install a stripper pole or seventeen for those ever more elusive Nielsen points), reports some troubling developments out of New Orleans. "The coast guard today announced new rules keeping photographers, reporters and anyone else from coming within 65 feet of any response vessel or booms, out on the water or on beaches. In order to get closer you need to get direct permission from the coast guard captain of the Port of New Orleans. Shots of oil on beaches with booms - stay 65 feet away. Pictures of oil soaked booms useless laying in the water because they haven't been collected like they should. You can't get close enough to see that. And believe me, that is out there. But you only know that if you get close to it, and now you can't without permission. Violators could face a fine of $40,000 and class D felony charges. The coast guard tried to make the exclusion zone 300 feet before scaling it down to 65 feet." While Cooper's conclusion is spot on, "we are not the enemy here, those of us down here trying to accurately show what is happening down here, we are not the enemy. If we can't show what is happening, warts and all, no one will see what is happening, and that makes it very easy to hide failure and hide incompetence", it doesn't matter, and little by little, nothing else matters, except for what the administration, the Fed, and the megacorps think it is in America's best interest to be able to see, hear, read, do, and what assets they have, where they can invest... especially if all this is done in conjunction with maxing out yet another credit card to buy the latest and greatest weekly edition of the iPhone.


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Sun, 07/04/2010 - 18:40 | 452237 Cathartes Aura
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lol "redneck xmas". . . *clinks a bevvie with Miles*  cheers

this one's for you sir.

http://www.ifc.com/blogs/indie-ear/2010/06/gil-scott-heron-new-here.php

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 00:31 | 452610 Miles Kendig
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And to you!  Thanx for your truly thoughtful gift.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 18:42 | 452233 Cathartes Aura
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p'haps it's just a new language to you, AVP. . . and p'haps you'll learn to speak it if you survive.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:49 | 451105 repete
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They are supposed to have 6000 boats out skimming oil.  If that is the case how many boats do they have picking up the oil that they have skimmed?  You see all kinds of boats towing boom but never a boat collecting the oil from them.  On evening news I saw 2 sport fishing boats hauling a piece of boom between them and the boom was pure white.  It had yet to see a drop of oil.  The water line of the boats were perfectly clean.  Brian Williams was out on the shore showing the cleanup earlier this week and they actually showed a boat using a shop vac to pick up the oil.  Maybe the censorship is to help stop things like the following from getting around.  Language warnng.

BP fails boom school

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx8kMXufu3w

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:22 | 451108 Number 156
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Oh be still my bleeding heart...

It was these idiots made an art out of filtering truth. Anyone remember the Acorn scandal, the Black Panther voter intimidation scandal et al..

Oh please Anderon, stick to your narratives and stop crying as your facade known as democracy crumbles and down around you.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:26 | 451110 ThinkAVP
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 Kid Speaks Out Against the Government and Economy

This lil Guy has it CORRECT!! This is what we should be teaching our youth..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdta3i3gMhw

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:46 | 451121 MarketTruth
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Rammstein - AMERIKA

We're all living in America,
America is wunderbar.
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.

Wenn getanzt wird, will ich führen,
auch wenn ihr euch alleine dreht,
lasst euch ein wenig kontrollieren,
Ich zeige euch wie's richtig geht.
Wir bilden einen lieben Reigen,
die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen,
Musik kommt aus dem Weißen Haus,
Und vor Paris steht Mickey Maus....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6iOGJCAIuA&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 01:34 | 451365 Miles Kendig
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dm7AYZ-tg

Remember, all it takes is one....

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:49 | 451132 sysin3
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Well, it sounds onerous, but I could piss on those booms from 65 feet.  Just sayin'.

And just where in the Constitution do you find that the Coast Guard is given power to tell me where and when I can go ??

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:12 | 451154 RichardP
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Boat much?  The Coast Guard have always had that power.  They are the policemen of the seas within U.S. coastal limits.

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 20:55 | 451133 litoralkey
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Anderson Cooper and the other sociopaths at CNN.com could talk about the rest of the story, and the rest of the Other documents that Obama has restricted all access:

According to additional records listed at the The Obama File http://www.theobamafile.com , other documents that remain unreleased include:

Occidental College records

Indonesian Citizen Passport Obama used to travel throughout Pakistan and Asia.

Columbia University records

Columbia thesis "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament"

Harvard Law School records

Harvard Law Review articles

Complete files and schedules of his years as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004

Obama's client list from during his time in private practice with the Chicago law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill and Gallard

Illinois State Bar Association records

 
Obama/Dunham marriage license

Obama/Dunham divorce documents

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license

Adoption records

....

Further, the Obama Administration could stop blatantly and willfully breaking Federal laws regarding lobbying and data rentention and stop having off campus secret meetings with lobbyists on a near daily basis, and could stop using private email and blackberry networks so the Presidential and Excutive Office records have the ability to be open to National Security guidelines, Federal Archives and FOIA laws as required by law.

Or Anderson Cooper and the co-conspirators at CNN can feign indignation for a long weekend slow news cycle and recall this new affront to open government "old news" by Tuesday afternoon.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 10:55 | 451564 pan-the-ist
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You're suggesting something.  Please be more direct for those uf us who can't read between the lines.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:01 | 451141 DocLogo
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CIA's Anderson Cooper?

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:05 | 451145 RedwoodTree
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DANGER Wil Robinson...constitutional suspension dead ahead....

I am not Chumba Bumba Numba Rotumba or anyone else...

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 10:42 | 451554 FEDbuster
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Testing how far they can go.  "Let no crisis go to waste".

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 18:50 | 452245 Cathartes Aura
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indeed.

the bully draws a line in the sand with his foot, dares one to cross it. . . the collective steps a step back so as to avoid confrontation. . .

the bully erases the line with his foot, takes another step forward. . . and redraws the line. . .

endlessly.

to expect otherwise is to disregard the nature of a bully.  power over.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:05 | 451146 Samual Adams
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'It rubs  the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again.  It puts the lotion in the basket.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgS6qLsVM4

I like to think of The Bankers and Corporations as the guy holding the little white dog which is the US Government.  The lady in the well is the American citizen.

Movie clip of the famous scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCSZfmbFJyQ&feature=related

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:06 | 451147 Samual Adams
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'It rubs  the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again.  It puts the lotion in the basket.'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgS6qLsVM4

I like to think of The Bankers and Corporations as the guy holding the little white dog which is the US Government.  The lady in the well is the American citizen.

Movie clip of the famous scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCSZfmbFJyQ&feature=related

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:07 | 451148 Samual Adams
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Apparently I posted twice,  still figuring out this whole interweb works.

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:19 | 451208 Rusty Shorts
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 - easy trigger, look at your post, there is an "edit" option, designed specifically for trigger happy commentators.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:45 | 451828 WaterWings
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That's "thrice".

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:07 | 451150 RedwoodTree
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DANGER Wil Robinson...constitutional suspension dead ahead....

I am not Chumba Bumba Numba Rotumba or anyone else...

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:58 | 451185 Problem Is
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Where is the Chum-ster?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:57 | 451458 Cognitive Dissonance
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Chumba is gone and never to return.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 11:16 | 451587 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Freedom of speech? Massage the message? Tow the zero line? Obviously hypocrisy makes some feel warm and fuzzy.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:34 | 451702 Problem Is
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"Chumba is gone and never to return."

Retirement? Change of occupation? Prison?

Or...

No longer of this earth?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 15:52 | 452013 Scooby Dooby Doo
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Objection! Asked and answered!

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:46 | 451832 WaterWings
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Seriously?

Chums! Wish you the best in your kingdom!

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 18:58 | 452250 Cathartes Aura
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Chumba is gone and never to return.

 

any chance you might expand that statement, CogDiss?

so many possibles inherent, and I'm hoping to discard some for a truth.

[edit] ahhh, "access denied". . . that is truly sad.

 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 21:56 | 452380 Cognitive Dissonance
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I think you already figured it out. Find one of Chumba's old comments and click on his name.

"Access denied"

As you know I've been celebrating ZH poster's one year ZH "birthday". A few weeks ago as I clicked on some names to see who has been around for a year, I got that message with Chumba. And I haven't seen him/her around.

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 16:03 | 453368 Cathartes Aura
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yes, that where I went too. . .

Chumba's posts were blustery, profane, and often challenging - but there were words of truth that few others were posting. . . sometimes you just need to go beyond polite discourse to make/validate a point. . .

I didn't agree with everything he wrote - and who agrees with everything others opine? - but I always looked out for his posts. . . he spoke with the urgency of someone who knows time is short, impatience even. . .

while I doubt he would linger here, I'll say it to the ethers - best wishes to you Chumbawumba, ole cranky one! and to your family as well.

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 16:22 | 453369 Cathartes Aura
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apologies for the triple post - page hiccup, not showing the edit as posted. . .

(tempting to leave up all "3 cheers" for Chumba, but I won't)

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 16:19 | 453370 Cathartes Aura
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.

Mon, 07/12/2010 - 11:00 | 464250 Marla And Me
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That's too bad.  He's loud, but at least he explained himself and could be reasoned with.  I'm not a fan of banning.  I'm all for enforcing certain standards, especially since I find ZH to have one of the best comments community on the net, but I prefer to be able to make up my own mind.  Heck, I wouldn't even want ZH to ban CrackSmokeRepublican since that's the beauty of the first amendment; it helps everyone see where everyone else is coming from. 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:09 | 451153 onlooker
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Do not take this too seriously. Janet Napolitano and Obama both said this last week that the US southern border is too big to control, sort of a reverse of too big to fail concept. They can not defend nor control the illegal passage of persons and drugs. The internet shut down thing is a little more draconian.

 

Being that the coast line is close to the size of the land line, the government can not control it nor has a desire to control it. NOW, if they are able to control the coast line, then they are able to control the land line. That would indicate that drug money has more power than the US citizen’s right to have information access to the Gulf ecology disaster.

 

Now, if you remember Green Peace bumping ships attempting to force their cause, this may be an issue. But, Katrina had a lot of coverage without injury or damage. Democrat news bias covering a Republican problem. Now we have a Democrat creation and a cover up.

 

Maybe we should take it seriously. Remember short wave radio in WW2 and USSR controlled countries? It did have a reason and it did work. Will Tyler become Radio Real America broadcasting from Canada? Or will an upcoming election turn the tide of tyranny. Vote.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:15 | 451157 cossack55
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Lets see:

The Democrats are socialist scum

The Republicans are nazi scum

Think I'll pass, though you may continue to pretend if you wish.

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:11 | 451254 knukles
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They're all one team wearing different coloured jerseys for public scrums.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 02:01 | 451366 Miles Kendig
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Taking turns with the pom poms while in drag

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:16 | 451261 CD
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There is a slight detail you seem to forget. Said short-wave radio was also used to broadcast silly messages of democracy, promises of US military and diplomatic support for popular uprisings against communist regimes and the oppression of the USSR. Radio station promotions also included airdrops of propaganda pamphlets to the local population saying much of the same. The sheeple there believed it, revolted, managed to drive out WW2-issue Soviet tanks. Then 30 days later up-armored, next-generation t-52 columns showed up, shot the shit out of everyone involved, executed the prime minister who dared to leave the Warsaw Pact and declare neutrality. On the upside, asylum visas were granted to the few thousand to make it to American shores. The thousands dead or deported to gulags were a necessary price for the pawns to pay.

The idea is not intrinsically a bad one -- alternate modes of communication must be found, as the internet can be a fickle creature in the hands of a totalitarian government. Just please don't forget who ran Radio Free Europe, and whose agenda they represented.

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:29 | 451274 knukles
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And to further that good line of thought, where shall the transmitters of said short-wave facilities be based?  And thusly, under whose aegis, control, ideals and motivations will said broadcasts be colored?  

Name a host domicile, name the alternative hidden agenda tempering and twisting said messages.

The Internet is the Modern Guttenberg press.  It Must be the Priority of the Power Elite to Dominate and Control.  QED

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 16:56 | 452094 Clycntct
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When the new Paul Revere finishes his nightly rides it will not be with a The British are coming, but with a pass this flash drive on to supporters.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:22 | 451265 knukles
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"Do not take this too seriously. Janet Napolitano and Obama both said this last week that the US southern border is too big to control, sort of a reverse of too big to fail concept. They can not defend nor control the illegal passage of persons and drugs. The internet shut down thing is a little more draconian."

Ah, but they've both "committed troops" to the defense of our southern border.  Connecting the dots (Ya'll been told by them very folks already, now, Dr. Freud is here!) that more resources will be needed, more freedoms infringed upon in order to properly achieve the responsibilities, the goals of their sworn office.  At our expense. 

Draconian, the Internet control?  Why only last week in one of the public government records, it was announced that the procedures to institute the Internet Identity Layer Protocol were in fact, being formally initiated.  Which will include a biometric identity card for Internet access for each American citizen. 

Follow that logic.  Biometric identity card for Internet use for citizens?  WTF......  Biometric with the Web?  WWW access for US citizens?  What about the rest of the world?  Clusterfuck!

The Steel Fist of Government crashing down upon Freedom of Speech under the guise of National Security, to Protect Your Freedoms.

Don't get better than this, folk. 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:17 | 451160 torabora
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Just WANTING to see pictures of black pelicans & oil soaked beaches is a misdemeanor. They're watching what you Google too. Better behave yourselves. It's called corporate porn, or CP for short. They'll take your guns, money, job, freedom...and your computer 'privileges'.

I, for one, welcome our corporate overlords.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:26 | 451163 Ruth
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I'm sure they'll have this all worked out by the time it gets to Clearwater Beach and the various other 10 or so beaches here.  In other news...studio beachfront apartments are aggressively being rented by cnn, fox and zerohedge news, along with every other media outlet trying desperately to grab their beachfront condo and apartments to adhere to the 65 feet restriction on oil cleanup photos which can only be shot during low tide, as high tide will bring on hefty fines and jail time for the tourist and media, as they attempt to enjoy and report on oil covered beaches that Gov. Charlie Christ so vehemently advertised to come and enjoy.  Tourist are saying they just couldn't afford the extra $40k and fines added to their vacation budget.  Well folks, so much for Charlie's ads, beachfront owners and tourists will promptly be leasing and subletting their units to the highest bidder from every media outlet in the land.  Many are counting on the governor'spardon in sentencing.  The governor could not be reached for comment.  <not sure sarc is on, just my version>

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 01:39 | 451368 Miles Kendig
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Tourist are saying they just couldn't afford the extra $40k and fines added to their vacation budget

ROFLMAO

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:02 | 451859 WaterWings
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Can I still get food stamps while I pay it off since I was fired and now generally unemployable as a felon?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:30 | 451890 Miles Kendig
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Just as long as you support the businesses at your point of transaction...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_15413977?IADID=Search-www.contracosta...

Have a wonderful holiday dear amphibian!  peace

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 17:27 | 452148 WaterWings
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Wish I could pour you a 100 proof shot for serving our nation.

Happy 4th all veterans! Honor the warrior, not the war!

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:46 | 451176 skippy
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The real effort see:

 

 

TALLAHASSEE — In the immediate aftermath of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, BP publicly touted its expert oil clean-up response, but it quietly girded for a legal fight that could soon embroil hundreds of attorneys, span five states and last more than a decade.

BP swiftly signed up experts who otherwise would work for plaintiffs. It shopped for top-notch legal teams. It presented volunteers, fishermen and potential workers with waivers, hoping they would sign away some of their right to sue.

Recently, BP announced it would create a $20 billion victim-assistance fund, which could reduce court challenges.

Robert J. McKee, an attorney with the Fort Lauderdale firm of Krupnick Campbell Malone, was surprised by how quickly BP hired scientists and laboratories specializing in the collection and analysis of air, sea, marsh and beach samples — evidence that's crucial to proving damages in pollution cases.

Five days after the April 20 blowout, McKee said, he tried to hire a scientist who's assisted him in an ongoing 16-year environmental lawsuit in Ecuador involving Dupont.

"It was too late. He'd already been hired by the other side," McKee said. "If you aren't fast enough, you get beat to the punch."

At the same time it was bolstering its legal team, BP was downplaying how much oil was spewing from the Deepwater Horizon well — something that lawyers say is likely to be a critical factor in both court decisions and government fines.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/03/1714485/bp-wasted-no-time-preparing-for.html#ixzz0sfcERaOk

 

Skippy...whos your daddy.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 05:51 | 451434 downwiththebanks
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In the wake of all this, props to the government of Ecuador for taking on these obscent world-fuckers.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:48 | 451180 DJFUNK
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Oil in London by Christmas. And.....our oil...this oil...is the only thing that can travel legally to Cuba. The lawyers shall feast. 

Western civilization hangs on a thing called "bottom-kill." How ironic.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:49 | 451181 Rusty_Shackleford
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This kind of directive is not coming from the Coast Guard. 

This is coming straight from the top.

Rahm and the bunch are smart enough to realize that every picture of an oil soaked bird is a knife in the gut of the Executive branch.

The unfiltered reportage simply must be stopped, and they will use everything in their power to do so.

Bank on it.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 10:53 | 451562 FEDbuster
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You got that right.  "Let no good crisis go to waste" except when dead whales covered in crude start washing up on beaches. 

Obama is a one term president, unless they suspend elections due to a "crisis".

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 21:55 | 451183 Problem Is
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Whatsamatta Douche Bag Cooper?
Tired of your career as an overpaid corporate hack "news" media whore?

That is a tough job you have Cooper-Douche. Keep sniveling...

"we are not the enemy here..."

Allow Me to Retort Cooper:
Yes you are.

You and your douche colleagues have failed the special privilege granted the press in our now shredded Bill of Rights in continuous and miserable fashion.

A disinformationist, worthless corporate propaganda whore such as yourself taking up space and public air waves.... is a treasonous enemy of the misinformed Amerikan public...

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:15 | 451467 cossack55
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Here, here.  +265.3

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:16 | 451201 John McCloy
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  This is flat our tyranny people. Unequivocal tyranny. Who voted for this guy Jesus. They may as well admit to what an economy killer this volcano is and here lies all the proof you need that this oil volcano is considerably worse than any one of us are imagining.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:16 | 451205 papaswamp
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Oligarchy biotches

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:18 | 451207 RockyR
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this is bad PR, yes.  but:

a.) 65' isn't that far

b.) a good telephoto lens will make up for the distance

as unfair and despicable as the policy is, it doesn't stop people from reporting.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:30 | 451221 papaswamp
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So when it goes to 100ft is that ok? 300ft?

 

When they take just a little freedom that is ok?...little bit more? This is supposed to be the United Fucking States of America...a constitutional republic where the people are in control...not BP. I don't remember any restriction zones around NO after Hurricane Katrina with dead bodies in the streets....the flood waters highly toxic. This is a completely different 'ball game'.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:36 | 451225 John McCloy
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+1

It is not called the "Convenientstution"

Land of laws & not men.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:40 | 451228 RockyR
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i basically agree with your outrage over this.  my point is that reporters can still pictures and get the story.  td suggests that they can't.

 

and, yes.  there were multiple restrictions on press in and around new orleans after katrina.  you think we got the real story about what happened there?  when i heard my first first-hand account of the relief effort in new orleans, i was shocked over what i heard. the real story was much, much worse that what was reported in the media.

 

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:46 | 451234 papaswamp
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Sorry RR I am pissed. Sure you can slap a big lens on there but it isn't the same. 21 meters is a big distance when trying to show the impact to an ecosystem. Though there was some restriction in NO there wasn't any jail time or fines associated with it....this is use of force on the 1st ammendment.

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:55 | 451240 RockyR
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we agree on the transgression against the first amendment.  this is certainly one for the courts to sort out.  we can hope

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:07 | 451868 WaterWings
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Ding! Ding! Ding!

You have to pay an expensive lawyer to wrench your life back for taking a photo. What if their expert witness says, "There is no way that was taken with a telephoto lens. I was employed by Nikon for a decade before my career with BP. I should know!"

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:46 | 451723 Kali
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They will arrest you for "taking a picture".  It has already happened.  Remember an article just a few weeks ago, about a motorcycle driver with a head cam on his helmut pulled over for speeding or something by police.  The guy didn't get a traffic ticket, but they arrested him for filming the incident.  I guess troopers can have car cams, but citizens can't.

Remember reading an article about police in NY (?) recently, confiscating cell phones from people who were taking pictures/video on phones of police arresting someone, some claimed, abusively arresting person.

So if "lines in the sand" won't work, then they move to confiscating equipment.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 19:08 | 452255 Cathartes Aura
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"The Confiscation Act of 1861 was an act permitting seizure of property, including slaves, being used to support insurrection during the AmericanCivil War"

(source: wiki)

just like the powers-that-be do in "drugs crimes" eh?

long history of "seizure".

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:11 | 451252 NOTaREALmerican
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Why do you think Jesus votes Republican!! 

 

You figure it out! 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 15:46 | 451995 Papasmurf
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"This is supposed to be the United Fucking States of America...a constitutional republic where the people are in control...not BP."

Not anymore.  Now it's the united states fucking americans.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:25 | 451214 Carl Marks
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Politics aside, this crap has been escalating since Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War. The two party system is symbiotic. They feed at the same trough and do their masters' bidding and their masters are ultimately the highest bidders for their souls.The system only works because partisans actually believe the crap they spew. WE have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. Any law or ideology to the contrary, must be ignored and those in favor of such abuses must be denounced 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:41 | 451230 Rebel
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Yeah, too bad my boy Bobby Lee did not have his best game on at Gettysburg.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 05:47 | 451433 downwiththebanks
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What we need is slavery.

Back to real capitalism.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:17 | 451468 cossack55
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We already have it.  Are you new to the game?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 08:09 | 451482 nmewn
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downwiththebanks,

The true value of a public education on display.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:43 | 451475 papaswamp
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Bad intel from a lazy Cavalry Commander

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 08:24 | 451486 Rebel
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Agreed. Maybe I would not have used word "lazy", but certainly did not have priorities straight on that particular day.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 23:12 | 452473 nmewn
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Reb,

I was going to ask downwiththebanks about the finer points of the Emancipation Proclamation...but it would seem I didn't have the right bait ;-)

Deo Vindici

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:47 | 451235 Rick64
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 Wouldn't be nice if the media was this passionate about the treasonous action of our politicians and corporations against its citizens. I'm not saying the issue at hand isn't a valid one, but we have been betrayed and let down by the media. They are no longer the watchdog for the citizens, but when their rights are being trampled on then they step up with indignation.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:50 | 451237 10044
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America:Freedom To Facism


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NpTVXitOQk

 

RIP: Aaron Russo

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:57 | 451242 Lux Fiat
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Gov't - shredding the Constitution one opportunity at a time.  Different Admin., same shredding, although it does seem like they are stepping up their game.

Rusty had it right - this had to come from the top.  It will be interesting to see just how captured the MSM media is with this story, or whether there are still some budding Woodward and Bernsteins running around out there.  If the lead story is about little Suzy who was injured falling off an oil boom, so keep little Suzies away from any cleanup equipment or efforts, you'll know it's even worse than I thought.

I would imagine that a host of legal non-profits are waiting for someone to get brought up on these changes so they can challenge this idiocy in court.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 22:59 | 451243 Oh regional Indian
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Trickle down fascism.

That is what Regan really set in motion.

Actually Bush Sr. via Regan.

And today, we proudly stand at the edge. Voluntarily enslaved.

Everyone here is guilty with sins of omission. 

This is the collectivist fascist state.

Imagine how easy it will be for "them" to buy another year of sheeple peace.

Hey, you know, all these years, we were wrong about Mary Jane. Yes Sir, bad gubmint, bad grubbyumint. Okay, you can all light up now. Lighten up now. Oil is Well! Swell!

Oh, almost forgot, you know that whole oldest profession thing! Of course it's legal. Should always have been. There, have at it you porn twisted, porn addicted people. 

Yes, the mafia will lose a little green love, but they will be, ummmmm, compensated.

 

Good luck all around.

Looked inward lately? Or really hard at the mirror?

The attic visit of the Dorian Gray in all of us looms, right before our individual and collective noses.

And the mirror cracked.

 

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:14 | 451259 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  That is what Regan really set in motion.

 

Just more unpatrotic negativity from liberals who hate freedom and democracy, and the troops.  This is how we lost the Vietnam war.

 

You're either with us, or your against us.  

 

You figure it out.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:35 | 451279 skippy
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We lost because we did not understand out opposition (sorta like Afghanistan...eh), just listen to Mr. Strange him self see:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2739267258043256895#

 

Skippy...watch the doco fog of war some time. 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 05:46 | 451431 downwiththebanks
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Is BP for us or against us?

You know when I hate the troops:  when they're sent to kill babies and steal other peoples stuff for people I hate.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:04 | 451248 Milestones
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WE THE PEOPLE-- are OWNERS of this country--when in the fuck are we going to start acting like owners-not serfs!! It is shit or get off the pot time folks.

It starts when each and every one of us says Basta es Basta!! Enough is a fuckin nuff.  Milestones

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:13 | 451258 arnoldsimage
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we can always contact our congressperson or sign a petition to ask them to stop. it worked well with T.A.R.P.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 05:44 | 451429 downwiththebanks
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Get real:  the 'owners' of this country are the ones who bankroll the government and buy the law.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:48 | 451833 Things that go bump
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cancelled

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:52 | 451845 Things that go bump
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Oh please, of course we are serfs, and maybe lower than than serfs and closer to slaves.  Serfs could own things, if not the land they worked on.  They were at least allowed possessions.  If you think you own anything, stop paying your taxes and you will shortly be disabused of your naivete.   The medieval serf worked an average of 3 days a week for his lord.  Tax freedom day was April 9 this year, so we work 3.6 days a week for our feudal lords.  It could be worse.  In 2000 tax freedom day was May 1.  According to Wikipedia, in the 18th century, Polish serfs worked 6 days per week for their lords.  I think we will approach that in the not-too-distant future.  I'm sure they will still tell us how fortunate we are to live in a free country.  When you think of taxes in this way, it becomes quite apparent that we are not a free people, and haven't been in quite some time, certainly not within my lifetime, and I was born during the Truman administration. 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:15 | 451249 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: "we are not the enemy here, those of us down here trying to accurately show what is happening down here, we are not the enemy. If we can't show what is happening, warts and all, no one will see what is happening, and that makes it very easy to hide failure and hide incompetence"

 

This is America!  Anyone who questions the motives of the greatest country in the entire whole wide world is an obvious terrorist.

 

Real American patriots support our troops anywhere they go because wherever they go the enemy is there!    Those who question America support the enemy, which is why liberals question so much - because they hate the troops and freedom and democracy.

 

Cooper is just another lie-bral.   You figure it out.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 09:23 | 451513 David449420
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You are a shill. A Government shill.  You are beyond contemptable.  91

 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:55 | 451746 Kali
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Dick Cheney, is that you?  Die fucker!

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:10 | 451770 thesapein
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Are you sure mom's a terrorists?

Okay, let's torture the planet some more until it tells us where the rest of the oil is hiding and stops hitting us with organic WMD's.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:34 | 451898 Miles Kendig
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Ya, right.  And the neo-cons demonstrated their love of the troops at Walter Reed and the VA....

From a 100%'er...  When did you ever do more than purchase some cheap pos Chinese made yellow ribbon magnet for your suv's?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 16:02 | 452028 technovelist
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I'm surprised you got junked, considering your post is obviously not serious. I guess even anti-governmentalists can lack a sense of humor.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:27 | 451271 jesusfreakinco
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What can you say... It is a sad day in America.  A sad day indeed!

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:56 | 451747 thesapein
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happy 4th?

so happy we're paying higher taxes than before we went solo.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:31 | 451277 arnoldsimage
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this dude is blunt but nails exactly where we stand at the moment in our country. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgG9gRWFQs0

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:36 | 451285 Misean
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"You don't need to see any pictures."

"We don't need to see any pictures"

"This isn't the infotainment you're looking for."

"This isn't the infotainment we're looking for."

"Move along..."

"Move along, move along..."

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:56 | 451459 Miss Expectations
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...First they institute Order 65....And a little later they execute order 66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcLyFokDcU&NR=1

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:37 | 451287 bruiserND
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class D felony charges replace the "free press"

 

  SURROGATE WARFARE, KILLING AMERICANS FOR FUN AND PROFIT : Veterans Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXoNE14U_zM&feature=related     "Can a government be a government when every tax is meant to help the banksters, every weapon meant to enrich their “war profiteer” clients, every treaty, every war, every threat, every new law has to pass the “bankster” seal of approval ?"   http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/03/gordon-duff-surrogate-warfare-killing-americans-for-fun-and-profit/     "Thus, the great Christian colossus, America, and its global military hegemony becomes a helpless dupe, stuck in war after war making even the hypocrisy of Vietnam seem like a holy crusade in comparison, each war more vile, more venal, more cruel than the last.  Tens of thousands of troops, spending years away from home, drugged on anti-psychotics, almost afraid to return to the United States to suffer at the hands of our military, courts, the VA fear ending up in a prison cell as did so many Vietnam vets.  With no jobs, no assurance of anything for many, even families have disintegrated during the senseless ten year conflict, agreeing to spend a lifetime in the military is the only chance for survival for most.  What was meant to be a professional army is now a force of highly trained economic hostages.  If the Nation of Karzai is a narco-dictatorship, and it is, ruling the city of Kabul with an iron checkbook, a medieval duchy in the midst of a permanent national uprising, can Americans even be called mercenaries anymore?"
Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:34 | 451336 skippy
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Thanks!

Worked over there in the day and yep he's got it down pat. 

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:39 | 451289 Chupacabra
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Anderson "In The Pooper" Cooper

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:27 | 451882 WaterWings
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Instead of holding up thirsty babies in front of the Superdome like Geraldo we have Coop telling us: resistance is futile

Thanks Poop! I mean Coop! I really meant Coop. Thanks for being so concerned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_V6SCiDhEA

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:40 | 451290 Cheyenne
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Not sure why so many folks here are down on CNN's A. Cooper. I get 95% of my info from the Internet with sites like ZH, but reading a computer screen 16 hours a day ain't on the menu. I gotta roast a bowl and watch the tube now and then. When I do, Cooper's Gulf coverage and Jon Stewart are generally what I turn to. Does Cooper push hard enough? Fuck, no. But is there anyone on TV doing any better? If so I'd genuinely like to know...

Additionally, it seems like even blog coverage of the Gulf has dropped off quite a bit (excepting sites like oildrum, which for some reason I find largely un-readable). For example, it seemed like just two weeks ago there were tons of hard-core scientific comments following a GW post on exactly what was going on the Gulf, right down to pipe size, informative shit. And then just like that, nothing. Things like that make me twitchier and twitchier, like we're getting real close...

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:05 | 451315 dogbreath
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"For example, it seemed like just two weeks ago there were tons of hard-core scientific comments following a GW post on exactly what was going on the Gulf, right down to pipe size, informative shit. And then just like that, nothing..................."

 

I think its call ADD.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:32 | 451334 Cheyenne
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Like I said, nothing.

But thanks for the Nth illiterate misuse of "its" on a blog. 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 01:57 | 451373 palmereldritch
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I think its called pedantic

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 03:10 | 451389 Rusty Shorts
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Jesus wept.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 12:46 | 451728 Problem Is
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"Nth illiterate misuse of "its" on a blog. "

LOL:
Grammar policing rears it's ugly head.
Its you with the problem.
Your just nit picking.
You're fetish for grammar is showing.
Whose really going to care?
Who's grammar rules are we using?

Cheyene: In honor of you being junked... I got your favorites into one post...

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 20:41 | 453638 Miles Kendig
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Ibe, hebe, shebe, yoube, webe, theybe, theirbe, yallbe ... all to simply be...

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 16:57 | 452095 Muir
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I be thankful.

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:45 | 451292 NOTW777
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someone may need to blame Pres. Bush for the new rules before this will get widespread coverage.

where s the ACLU?

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:51 | 451299 Misean
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"where s the ACLU?"

 

Holding a a Dumborat party fundraiser in West Palm Beach...Duh!

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:51 | 451297 agrotera
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God bless and keep Anderson Cooper!!!!! He said it!!!!!

Sat, 07/03/2010 - 23:59 | 451306 Kreditanstalt
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TD sounds really despondent, frustrated and irate today.  Getting dangerously close to the truth: that ANY government-with-a-herd-of-captive-taxpayers is THE problem...

A lot of this nonsense would be impossible to enforce if the checkbook were taken away.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:04 | 451312 barkingbill
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i like transparent body suits and cleavage

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 16:03 | 452029 technovelist
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Do you like money too? If so, maybe we should hang out together.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 16:34 | 451318 CD
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cougar_w 

You said something a few days/weeks ealier about the damage caused by the current spill taking decades to understand. Not that you need it, but here is the official h/t to you from our esteemed MSM. Besides that, it is a fascinating, if sanctioned, look at what is to come and how things will be done:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/03/AR2010070303040.html

"I don't think we will fully understand the impact of the spill for decades," Tuttle said, adding that state and federal authorities will have to make their "best guess" about the extent of damage to reach a fair settlement with BP."

[...] 

"Entrix is one of two major U.S. consulting firms that specialize in assessing an oil spill's impact. BP provides the boats used to conduct surveys and even the snacks consumed on board; it funds the scientific studies that have been launched by government agencies; and eventually, the company will have to pay for the time of every government official and contractor involved. At the moment, roughly 100 Entrix employees are working alongside more than 250 officials and contractors from state and federal agencies."

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:13 | 451319 barkingbill
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maybe instead of a tea party, we could have an iphone party. take iphones and smash them up, throw them on big piles and roll a monster truck over them, destroying thousands at a time as a demonstration of our desire to be free from their plastic crap. 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 01:05 | 451353 RockyRacoon
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I'd have to steal one in order to join in.  I sure ain't buying one.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 17:20 | 452134 Clycntct
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There in lies the problem? How to buy one when you have to stand 65' away from it.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:24 | 451469 cossack55
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What's an iphone?  Anything like a partyline.  Why don't we go back to rotary dial.  It allows you a moment of thought prior to completing an interuption in someone's day.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:35 | 451323 juwes
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In a rigged system, where courtrooms are like mafia hang outs, police are tax collectors with unchecked power, money is controlled/diluted/stolen, and citizens are hiding from danger in front of their insulating flat screens (peeking out the window only to see if terrorists are nearby), is it unclear why there is no action cogdis?

 

I propose we use meetup.com or some other internet site to hold zerohedge meetings around the country.

 

I will cast the first (faux bearded) hand crafted stone and...  (after a few wasted moments on $$meetup.com$$) without further ado:

http://groups.google.com/group/zerohedgeflorida

http://groups.google.com/group/zerohedgeflorida

http://groups.google.com/group/zerohedgeflorida

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 17:23 | 452142 Clycntct
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Google said I had to stand back 65' so I couldn't' sign in.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:42 | 451343 Xibalba
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Get your guns and ammo!  Oh...and some popcorn for the fireworks.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 00:52 | 451348 MaxVernon
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What kind of cunt makes free speech illegal?  Oh, that's right, the cunt who is facing extinction.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 01:47 | 451370 DoctoRx
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If you had a Marxist father, sought out Marxists in college as you stated in your memoirs, and were the ultimate master of the Masters of the Universe, you'd be all for unrestricted access to anything that just might embarrass you, wouldn't you? 

What, you wouldn't?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:38 | 451426 downwiththebanks
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Except that this is a CAPITALIST disaster, brought on by CAPITALIST greed in pursuit (as always) of CAPITALIST accumulation.  The government has abetted this at every step of the way to allow the CAPITALISTS - the same-said gang that has destroyed the Gulf of Mexico - to keep accumulating cash-money.

The government cannot act for BP and for the people.  And they aren't.  It's obvious.  This is what precisely what CAPITALIST governments are - weapons for those who have amassed wealth to continue doing so, by means of law and force (military, cultural, political, juridical, economic).

CAPITALISM is antithetical to democracy.  CAPITALISM, through it's little legally mandated fictions like 'corporations', demands that one act psychopathically - ransacking and demolishing the world in pursuit of CAPITALIST accumulation. 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:41 | 451450 anony
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We will await your explanation of the top 10% of COMMUNIST and SOCIALIST kleptocrats.

 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:54 | 451454 downwiththebanks
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Care to elaborate a bit on whose behavior I should explain?

Or address the point:  this is a CAPITALIST disaster, and the actors with power are acting to further extend CAPITALIST accumulation.  The existence of the oil spill barely matters now - the question is how to make MONEY from it?

Apart from the theatrics, Sotero's concern is that someone gets paid.

To put this crisis on Marx, or Marxism, is remarkably idiotic.  By this logic, anyone who takes a first-year college history course is a Marxist, since they must read 2 pages of text from Karl Marx.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 11:28 | 451599 UGrev
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This is not capitalism.. it's Neo-Corporatism. 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 08:37 | 451494 bugs_
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And don't forget the COMMUNIST environmental
disasters.  Of course we have complete and
unfettered access to those.  We know how
much compensation was paid and to whom.

LOL!!!

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:13 | 451466 papaswamp
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This wasn't caused by free market action at all. It is a rigged game (just read the hundreds of articles here on ZH) run by an Oligarchy which has the govt. as it's enforcers. This is another example. BP (part of the Oligarchy system) has the govt (in this case the Coast Guard) using threat of force (arrest, prison, fines) to control the flow of information.

This country is not supposed to be a democracy (mob rule) but rather a constitutional republic.

As Ben Franklin so aptly put it....'Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.'

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” ~ John Adams, 2nd U.S. President

“We are a Republican Government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or in the extremes of Democracy.” ~ Alexander Hamilton, author of the Federalist Papers

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:00 | 451755 Kali
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But as a republic, we aren't doin any better. ( :

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 15:41 | 451987 papaswamp
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We haven't been a Republic for decades...that is my point...we are an Oligarchy.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 15:49 | 452003 Papasmurf
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Not since 1913

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 02:34 | 451380 Overleveraged_a...
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Tyler durden

I love your fucking website. oh my lord.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 04:22 | 451414 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Lets hope they don't start slaughtering non embedded reporters like they did in Iraq (Palestine Hotel)

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 05:52 | 451436 downwiththebanks
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Remember that NOPD shot at a couple of them during Katrina, too, when the gov't was trying to create as many internally displaced people as possible.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:52 | 451457 newstreet
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Where is Project Mayhem when we need him?

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 07:07 | 451464 Miss Expectations
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I'm going to hazard a guess that too many commentators told him to get lost because this is a trading blog.

We do need him.  I miss him every Monday morning.

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 08:49 | 451501 anynonmous
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http://www.projectmayhemresearch.com/

 

Seems he disappeared

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 08:54 | 451503 Cui Bono
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Hey Cog Dis-  is Chumba really gone?  That is terrible.  Is there any chance of a return??? CB

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 09:04 | 451507 anynonmous
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this was his last email address

 

project.mayhem.research at gmail

 

 

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 13:17 | 451780 Kali
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Really, did he get "extraordinary rendition" from CIA?  Seriously, this disturbs me quite a bit.  What has happened to Chumba?  We may have to go rescue him from some dark pit dungeon in Georgia (not US Georgia, former USSR).

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 14:25 | 451884 WaterWings
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"Abu Ghraibed"

Mon, 07/05/2010 - 00:39 | 452617 Miles Kendig
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Perhaps just some old fashioned diesel therapy....

http://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking2/Ferranti.html

Sun, 07/04/2010 - 06:58 | 451460 Fred123
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What did anyone expect from the piece of trash in the White House? If you voted for this man-child garbage in 2008 you better redeem yourself this november.

 

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