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BP's Attempt At LMRP Installation In Process
BP has commenced its attempt at installing the LMRP. If past experience is any indication, this last chance to capture the flow will also be unsuccessful. One can be sure, however, that many in the White House are watching and praying , knowing full well that if oil continues gushing into the open ocean through August, the administration's popularity rating may be the next thing used to plug the gusher at the ocean bottom. In addition to the embedded camera angle below, this link provides access to a second live cam that is focusing on the actual LMRP, and the direct BP camera feed can be seen here. A last fallback is the live CNN feed which seems to always work.
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I will say that they did a crappy job cutting the pipe. This could/should affect the fit.
The real problem with the top hat or dome strategy, as best as I can tell, is the nitrates. The rougher cut means more of a chance for them to build up and float the top hat or dome. In fact the damn thing could be successfully dropped on top, announced a success, and then float off because of build up; if I'm reading things right. So, I'm waiting for the headline that says we did it before close of market tomorrow, and then for the truth to come out this weekend; again. We'll see I guess. I have zero faith in my government's competency in accomplishing anything, and I certainly have no faith in fuck everyone for profit this quarter corporations in general; most assuredly not in British god damned Petroleum.
What's next? Maybe we can convince Aquaman to use his powers to stop the gushing well...
what is also not mentioned very often is the cap has to be removed during adverse weather . Then reattached once bad weather passes -
Wow, no need to buy a fishbowl with this awesome video.
Here's a tip. IMO the best investment out there related to the oil disaster is the company that makes that robot sub you see in the video feed. Also known as Remotely Operated Vechicles(ROV) made by Oceaneering Internatioal, Inc (OII:NYSE). You can't do deep water drilling without them. Now more than ever.
You can't do deep water drilling
I would stop there
Unfortunately true, ratava.
Yeah, I thought that too but OII has been as worse as BP, HAL, and RIG, check the chart..it has nosedived since the beginning of the disaster..don't try to catch falling knives...
Is this the Pink Floyd video?
You're right, it is way more epic with a soundtrack. Have a cigar?
No wait; Dogs.
Got any Window Pane? The only way I could watch this for more than 30 seconds would be after taking a tab.
You're so old school, tab. Meh. Microdot.
I preferred the 'dot. The 'panes were too unpredictable, never knew how much you were going to get...
1973. 12 hours of high speed advanced learning. Before that i never even suspected the curtains. WE are the man behind the curtain.
Liquid ... pure and very clean.
An old school fan, the song is about something unrelated but...
"One slip, and down the hole we fall
Seems to take no time at all."
I often wonder about the frequency of PF references on this site compared to other forums. Now there is a useless stat govt could be collecting.
The real question is why was BP allowed anywhere near a US oil facility? Their safety record is atrocious.
They have literally hundreds of cited violations over the past few years, while their competitors all seem to have less than ten; in many cases much less than ten.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-safety-record/story?id=10763042&page=1
Excellent point. In addition, why is a company against whom the Attorney General of the United States, Eric (Place) Holder, is considering criminal charges being allowed anywhere near the scene of the crime?
Why is an Affirmative Action Lightweight, with the balls of a flea and a brain equally micro, allowed near an oil company?
Because oil companies get to pick the war, the whore, and the holes to bore
The Rock says "that was a good one!"
+1K
To be fair, most of the violations were from several years ago- two big problems which resulted in loads of violations. Since Tony took over, safety [er, until the spill] was much improved.
I still wonder who that 'company man' was, why they did the work around to avoid doing the final steps as usual, why the MMS signed off on it, why the rubber bit from the BOP showing up in the mud didn't result in a much more cautious approach.
In general, engineering types are pretty committed to redundant systems. They had them, but it's like they opened all of the barn doors and yelled 'shoo, shoo' to a bunch of horses.
Very, very odd.
Has there been any more news on the other reported plumes? Or has the MSM blacklisted Sir Simmons?
I have not checked since the AM at theoildrum, but as of then no news.
MSM? No. In fact, there is an 'email' making the rounds claiming to be from Simmons & Co. CEO Frazier implying that his views are diametrically opposed to that of the company.
There is a reader on Oildrum claiming to have seen 'hydrate blizzard' bubbling up from sea floor from one of the remote subs, but no pics: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6539#comment-639607
"knowing full well that if oil continues gushing into the open ocean through August, the administration's popularity rating may be the next thing used to plug the gusher at the ocean bottom."
That's pretty funny, kudos on the writing!
Wow, the screen just went totally black. That can't be good.
Does anyone here use TradeKing or have any thoughts on it?
Don't use it, have browsed their comms and platform specs out of curiosity and they look like absolute dogshit.
If you're a retailer then try lightspeed, IB or tradestation.
"One can be sure, however, that many in the White House are watching and praying , knowing full well that if oil continues gushing into the open ocean through August, the administration's popularity rating may be the next thing used to plug the gusher at the ocean bottom."
Let's be honest now, they aren't hoping and praying they're planning spin control. If this thing is going to go on for weeks and months more.... Well they'll just black bag the operation (in the interest of national security of course), call the attempt a success, shut off the cameras, and feed the media the line they want spread. Come on, let us be real here. If this administration can't get a PR "win" out of this, they are going to bury what's really going on so deep no one will know the truth. What happens when secrecy is good for the administration and BP? You take a guess...
Fisherman's wife breaks the silencehttp://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/06/03/gulf.fishermans.wife/index.html
"Maybe it's food poisoning making the fishermen sick?" BP spokesman says.
BOYCOTT BP
*That's British Petroleum since I've heard no one else call them by their full name. Maybe it's a KFC thing?
I am having flashbacks to 1st Responders.
Why? There was nothing at Ground Zero that made them sick? Must have been food poisoning.
Yes, the many First Responders must have all had food poisining. That is what caused their cancers. Move along.
Or hydrogen sulfide poisoning (H2S) really bad gas. A friend of mine is disabled due to H2S sewer gas spewing into his yard from a sewer pump station.
Yes, local .govs can be as bad as the big ones.
Hydrogen sulfide gas is nasty nasty stuff.
H2S is also a big deal in oil exploration. Upstream H2S creates material issues in oilfield equipment. Non sour service prepared equipment will get eaten up by the stuff.
what the hell just happened? looks like oil just blew out like crazy...
I think the marklar didn't work right and kind of marklared the other marklar.
Dude, we are so MARKLARED!
off topic.
Yo Tyler, any chance of getting coverage on the Bilderberg meeting happening over the next few days?
iF you buy me a ticket I will sneak in with a camera. I know the lingo enough to blend in with these punks, How about an embedded camera under my hat? We could run the live video feed over your site.
I suspect, in the Bilderberg meeting of 2008, all were told that the oil market would peak July 4th, Americas Independence day, . and all should adjust their holdings .
Oil peaked 4th of July weekend, at $147 and months later would bottom out at $40.
JESUS.FUCKING.CHRIST.
I will buy you a ticket, but only if you allow me to buy a complimentary gun and some ammo with which you can shoot yourself after the conference is over.
Yeah, that would be REALLY AWESOME to run a spy into the Bilderberg meeting.
Amazing -- the robot sub dropped that cap over the pipe and now the water is filled with "stuff" so thick it obscures the view. This is better than 99% of the shows on TV!
The audio is better than American Idol as well, extra bonus.
So I was just thinking about how they wanted James Cameron to help out. What if this was filmed on a set? Tin foil hat off.....
Am I seeing this wrong, or did the situation just get a whole lot worse with the oil spill?
Tyler, you must be a copywriter. That's the best laugh I had all day.
This is machine porn.
Look Lennon, you and I both know that IS NOT machine porn....
Don't make me get a link. :)
Helluva money shot!
1. Plug the damn hole with toxic assets.
2. The oil spill should really get the carbon credits market up and running. Wonder if the pollution rights include, spilling oil in the ocean.
3. Why is Warren Buffet pitching the gold trade to the masses? Has Goldman replaced Jim Crammer with Warren Buffet as the dis info agent, telling the public to trade one way, while they trade the opposite side?
I'm as big a fan of ZH as the next guy, but the cynicism can get to be too much at times. The tone of the paragraph sounds almost like he'd prefer if this attempt failed as well. :\
Are you crazy, fail, we don't want this attempt to fail!
it's the total bullshit that ZH is fed up with.. there was no chance for success - just a dog and pony show... fucking adults acting like they are on Bob the Builder is all you got here... and a new Dead Sea
+1
And @ simonyang
Wake up. And don't be hater just because we don't look like MCC and read a pollyanna script. I can assure you that nobody, save the fisherman in Lafourche or Plaquesmine pareishes, wants this capped more than me. We are witnessing the destruction of a way of life and the greatest part of my state so you can STFU.
Naw, I dont think TD wishes for the destruction of the Gulf coast. His cynicism is more directed at the corrupt political system and the cronyism that allows such avoidable tragedys to occur in the first place. Had established regulations and procedures been enforced, instead of the govt beaurecrats rubberstamping everything, the BP company men wouldnt have cut so many corners,imo.
Same crap with the space shuttle, the financial collaspe, and just about every thing the govt sets up countless beauracracies and tons of regulations for, only to look the other way and rubberstamp everything until something blows up.
Then its the stupid assed dog and pony show of congressional hearings and crap so the responsible culprits can weasel out of consequences and even keep thier jobs (and hefty bonuses). Same basic defense every time "One in a million" "nobody saw it coming" "it was the other guys fault" be it a blown up oil rig, space shuttle, an overlooked ponzi, rigged market crash etc ad naseum.
I cant speak for TD, but from the gist of his writings here, the cynicism is abundant, but directed squarely at the root cause of these calamities, not the victims.
Im 48 and grow more cynical of our sorry excuse for a govt every year. God knows how much taxpayer revenue they spend like drunken sailors on payday night for all these freakin depts of this; depts of that; stuffed full of political cronys and given a huge budget to safeguard us mere mortals from disaster and corporate abuse.
What do we get for our hard earned money? Agencies that dont protect jackshit except for the corporate interests of the very entities who are supposed to be effectivley regulated. SEC, Dept of interior, Dept of any goddamn thing, its the same shit different title.
(rant off)
back on...
there seems to be an intentional effort in business and
government to screw up at all levels of management and
finance so the pieces can be sold off at a profit and the bill
is handed to the taxpayer, called kicking the can i think.
they rid the depts./ agencies of the technical and competent people and the
built in safety and redundancy, expensive, features. pocket the profit.
when the beans spill they blame the current clown or "leader".
bill goes to the taxpayer. the money system of debt dictates,
every system, every transaction, every approved design,
every plan is slave to the corrupt from hell money system.
every war and every whore. slave. i blame the fed, and so should you.
r.o. end the fed!
+1
Damn! Looks like they needed a 12 inch diameter pipe to ride this bronko! Looks like they really underestimated badly. I thought it was obvious, but what do I know?
It just ain't workin...another epic fail.
Jump into your pool with a garden hose fully open, hold it under the surface perpendicular to the surface and THEN try putting a bucket over it - game over, man. The great F&^KUP has finally arrived...
Overheard, not verified. Someone told me that the amount of pressure blowing out of that pipe could toss one of those huge earthmoving dump trucks in the air??
DID YOU PLUG THE WHOLE YET DADDY??
I'm literaly more pissed off than Sean Penn at "Rush to Excellence" tour stop at this EPIC FAIL 3.0, but that made me laugh out loud. When Barack O' Potus uttered those words my wife turned to me and said that was the cruelest double entrendre in the history of American politics (of course, she didn't say it that way).
Oil Drum says Browner stated that the White House is calling the shots on all BP moves. Can not wait for this to bite Rahm's ass.
Watching through the Ocean Intervention 1 cam: Looks violent...I don't see how they are going to cap that thing. Frickin shame.
Thanks for the update. The CNN livecams are not really showing anything and had me curious if this cap was working. What is your cam link?
the hyperlink titled "this link" in the article body.
Sorry, thought there might have been a better view. It seems like they parked the ROV's quite a distance from the cap which makes visualizing the progress very difficult. Intentional?
Im an electronics tech and I noticed there was a solenoid, actuator, or maybe a sensor of some sort attached to the exterior of the cap with just loose wires coming out of it. I cringed knowing when they first try to set the cap over that 3500 psi volcano of a leak that those wires would get whipped around and blasted pretty good not to mention a good chance of getting fouled on something. Their gazillion dollar efforts could be failure no. 3 with the eyes of the world on them because of a break in a 10 dollar pigtail.
Surely someone could have welded up a nice custom conduit from half inch pipe laying around on the ship?
Is this indicative of BPs "get er done" throw caution to the wind mentality?
The wire might survive intact, but damn, If I were them, Id be a little more detail oriented after all thats happened. Some chances you have to take, and some things you cant forsee, but stupid risks like that can be avoided with very little effort.
are you talking about the little black octopus swimming in the foreground?
From mauisurfer on theoildrum.com
The main action is at Enterprise ROV-1:
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:47175.asx?bkup=21144
view from distance of BOP at OI3-1
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44838.asx?bkup=45135
Currently, the top link appears to show the ROV spraying more dispersant.
There is an answer to all this madness.
In-dust-real designs for a post-carbon world.
Courtesy Oh Regional Indian.
www.squareandc.net
Enter with a wide-open mind at your own peril.
The Skandi ROV 1 seems to have clear footage as well, from what I can tell it is dispersant being shot into the plume of oil?
http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9033572&contentId=7062605
all the feeds at once
http://mxl.fi/bpfeeds2/
Super, super cool Spaceman!
Highly recommended by a lowly Bearing.
I love the idea of all the camera feeds on one screen, but am having severe difficulty opening all non-embedded feeds in all the browsers I've tried (Chrome, Firefox, IE). Is anyone else with Windows 7 having these issues, or is there a different browser to try?
This is awesome, Spaceman! Thanks! Looks like most of the action is on Skandi right now and I had been watching Enterprise.
dark pools of soros had the last and final word. well said. done and done.
sealed up. turn off the cameras.
sealed up. turn off the cameras.
Ok, so I'd probably be less embarrassed posting a link to rentboydotcom but this is the only article I could find that mentions what I just saw on the local news: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/may2010/pers-m27.shtml
Specifically: "For nearly a month after the explosion, BP hid video evidence that contradicted its claim that the impact of the spill would be "very, very modest," as CEO Tony Hayward put it last week."
Basically, from day one they only showed the one clip with the little pipe and hid two other ones that looked far more awful (accurate). Apparently the administration was aware of this and said nothing.
I don't want to turn this into a political thing but this and the decision to leave disaster relief efforts in the hands of BP (apparently for purely legal liability reasons) make this a spectacular defeat for this administration.
Here's an interesting piece that almost gets up the guts to tell the truth and put a dent/hole in the MSM's armor: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/03/AR2010060300848.html
But it never actually makes the full frontal attack it starts out alluding to ('As oil spread, did BP battle to contain the media?'), wimping out under the guise of 'fair and balanced reporting'. Yet there is a very, very revealing quote that could replace the entire article:
So, right there in black-and-white WaPo ink: 1) the story is being 'managed' 2) BP is in charge of 'management' 3) stay away if you value your health. Any other questions?
Dylan 1964 "I been out in front of a Dozen Dead Oceans."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UHUrUYkbJA&feature=related
Lower the dome in a day or two!?!? I thought that they we where going to see dome tonight! Awh, shucks.
Additionally, I would like to step back and reflect on the situation. We, humanity generally, greedy humans specifically, have opened a hole 30,000 some feet deep in the ocean, in the gulf of Mexico, which has been in existencesince the Late Triassic (The Late Triassic spans the time between 228.0 ± 2 Ma and 199.6 ± 0.6 Ma (million years ago)). From then until now many carbon based things have drained down into it, for example, during oceanic anoxic events (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceanic_anoxic_event). Oceanic anoxic events cause mass extinctions in the sea and on the land. Mass extincions result in collections of carbon ready to be covered and ripened into ng and oil. "Another, economically significant consequence of oceanic anoxicevents is the fact that the prevailing conditions in so many Mesozoic oceans has helped produce most of the world's petroleum and natural gasreserves." -Wikipedia. And this petrol and ng is at a lower pressure and different temperature than the water above it, which does make it easy to pump when your pinhole into the vat of ancient death goo and gas is controllable. However, when your pinhole starts to deform to the point where Bloomberg's TV news entertains the Russian's idea, who recommend nuking it before it gets worse, you may have a problem which involves one of the world's largest oldest collections of ripened death goo (does that "drinkingup your milkshake" thing apply underwater, under pressure. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_IhiEUp2bQ&feature=fvst)). Since that guy's chest hair, the domes, the British, the Americans, Russians, BHO, GOP, Dems, Libs, Progs, Anarchs, and catholic pedos are all failing to stop the "leak" (deforming pinhole in a death pressurized balloonat geologic time) we might all just be fucked, sorry to be cynical, but sometimes realists are confused for cynics, especially 10 or so years ago, but now as well. And occasionally domes work, but then the jumbo tron gets in the way of the punts, oh well, America fuck yeah! This rant is loosing focus, but that seems to be the way of things when the floor falls out from under an exponential growth pattern. Still we should probably do more than set the death goo on fire and setup the fucking booms fucking im-fucking-properly. Maybe we should sue BP out of existance, probably, but still death goo everywhere (BTW, under this terminology the petro dollor exchnge is the multi 100,000,000 year old death goo dollar exchange, I like mine better, it's longer but sometimes it pays to be more specific with terms, like before you start poking pin holes for death dollars.)
I don't have a solution, of course. I was hoping this would go somewhere better after oceanic anoxic events, oh well, good night.
"Oceanic anoxic events cause mass extinctions in the sea and on the land. Mass extincions result in collections of carbon ready to be covered and ripened into ng and oil. Another, economically significant consequence of oceanic anoxicevents is the fact that the prevailing conditions in so many Mesozoic oceans has helped produce most of the world's petroleum and natural gasreserves." -Wikipedia.
Bullshit. The worlds petroleum & natural gas reserves are derived from the earths mantle. I'll bet Wikipedia says the USD is money too!
This carbon gets covered by mud dirt rock, then pressure and heat power the organic soup's convesion into what you might call crude. Bullshit? Maybe your referring to:
"The abiogenic hypothesis argues that petroleum was formed from deep carbon deposits, perhaps dating to the formation of the Earth. The presence of methaneon Saturn's moon Titan is cited as evidence supporting the formation of hydrocarbons without biology. Supporters of the abiogenic hypothesis suggest that a great deal more petroleum exists on Earth than commonly thought, and that petroleum may originate from carbon-bearing fluids that migrate upward from the mantle." -Wikipedia
This theory is not favored by mainstream geologists, as wikipedia and others will tell you. Probably because the geologic locations (depthwise) of oil formations exist in layers where there was a major extinction event.
In this argument you have called bullshit based on Saturn's moon, I return your bullshit saying mass death. Imagine if you will the amount of carbon created by killing off oceanic algae alone, it would be absolutely massive, on a scale capable of accounting from much of the worlds oil reserves (which again just happen to be located right where they should to coincide with things like the mass death of the oceans algea in anoxic events.
I think they have also carbon dated the oil reserves to show that they have not been here since the early stages of earth's formation, helping to rule out a non-biological formation.
You could be right, but I'd bet money that you're wrong, or at least mostly wrong about how the majority of crude came into being.
Anoxic events are not general knowledge for most people, it makes for an interesting and relevant read, I encourage your autodidacticism (where's an english major when you need one).
Edit: I forgot to add...
"The term fiat money is used to mean:
The term derives from the Latin fiat, meaning "let it be done", as the money is established by government decree. Where fiat money is used as currency, the term fiat currency is used. Today, most national currencies are fiat currencies, including the US dollar, the euro, and all other reserve currencies, and have been since the Nixon Shock of 1971." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_currency)
Also...you cheated and moved my quotation mark to make it seem as if my crazed chatter was part of the wikipedia quote, for everyone who wants to see the real quote, look at my orginal post. That is an incorrect and ultimately useless way of winning an argument. Try again...if you want to
this accident could happen to every major oil producer enganging in deep-water drilling. so keep in mind that most big oil companies are US...
Spin, spin, spin, every politician and pundent that said "Drill baby drill" should be forced to lick oil off the asses of sea birds. To say this is Obama's fault is pure crap. Maybe they should release the minutes of the secret meetings Cheney had with the oil barons. Their greed will destroy us all.
While I can not disagree with your conclusion, you offer a topical solution to a systemic problem. When do you plan to WTF up and see root cause? This doesn't have jack shit to do with O'mama, Cheeney, Roosevelt, or Hoover. This is due to systemic failure and for root cause, I would begin looking thru the history books starting around 1913. The system is broke and it doesn't matter which patsy party is in power. They are ALL bought and paid in full.
and on goes zero hedges obsession with talking over peoples heads?
im not in the oil field...or the oil leak fixing business...anyone mind explaing what an LMRP is?
would the two minutes to write it out have hurt anyone? or are we too smart on zero hedge to actually explain something.
From here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_field_acronyms
Wikipedia is your friend. So is this site:
http://www.theoildrum.com/
thanks a bunch richard :)
Yer welcome. Happy reading.
It was only a few days ago when we watched some machine fondle the rig.
Now the ever present money shot.
"I made that!" Said little boy blue.
Machines are disgusting.