BP's Bankruptcy Would Impair 117 (18% Of Total) Collateralized Synthetic Obligations, Lead To Pervasive Losses

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Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:43 | 425782 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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oooo....Max Keiser broke rule one, and rule two on Jones today.


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:09 | 425817 velobabe
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what rule number one.

my rule one for max keiser,

is never let them use those stupid still pictures of you again,

M A X, while your audio is playing.

in a trench coat getting out of a taxi.

rule #2, always look your best, consult your handler first,

cause you are

H O T       H O T      H O T      H O T†


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:47 | 425821 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Oh, and here, but you know I know you know, but here.


Tue, 06/22/2010 - 12:59 | 426986 velobabe
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no i didn't know.

actually not up on a lot fight club. except the actors are all hot†

takes me a while, so little helpers like your video's, i enjoy.

definitely my rule is #6.

have the rules printed out and up on my wall.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:13 | 425824 Implicit simplicit
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This might be one of the main forces in the underground radio network when Bama boy pulls the plug.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:16 | 425906 TheGoodDoctor
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Shit dude Alex already is. I have been listening to Alex since I read his analysis of the Patriot Act back in 2001. I had to write a paper on it for a class. I could not believe what was in that bill. Bought every god damned film the guy had out in 2001 immediately. About 8 or 9 at the time. That is when I woke up. His documentaries blew my mind. I realized that I had been lied to my whole life. And at the time I was just going back to college for a second time. Discovering Alex changed my whole perspective on things. Just as Zero Hedge has done the same on investing, the machinations of the markets, economics, politics etc. I am so glad I discovered this site. This site and its authors and members have educated me so much. (Thanks everyone!) :)

Alex has grown by leaps and bounds. Just from what I have gleened from what he says about his IT infrastructure costs (I'm in the biz or was /sarcasm off) it sounds like he has put a lot of money into his transition to the digital media age. I have seen him go from just a couple of web sites to now I think at least a half dozen.

As mentioned above the archives used to be pay ($10 a month), now free. He has podcasts and live streams 24 hours a day on the www.infowars.com site. GCN is really good about offering their radio programs/archives for free too. Archives of all their shows go back many years. The only problem I have is I wish to Christ they would list the guests he has on each day in the archives. That would be so helpful (same with GCN too) 

And then he moved to an extra premium pay site www.prisonplanet.tv (all of www.infowars.com is free and the other sites too) and made all his movies accessible by subscription also many by others and videocasts of his show plus other stuff too. Pretty cheap subscription for a year too I might add. Though, you can see most of his movies on Google or You Tube now for free.

He's done damn near 20 documentaries too. His next one is supposed to be about chemtrails. (Endgame, the Police State series (4 of them), 9/11: The Road To Tyranny, Martial Law, Masters Of Terror and Matrix of Evil are all awesome). He is meticulous about the sourcing of his info too. He also sells t-shirts (some really good ones), videos, books, stickers etc. on his site which helps pay for all of the stuff he does. A lot from other people too. Leo if you are reading this you would be very interested in the documentary Comprehensive Finanical Reports another good one but they are all worth watching many times over. He also is open about duplicating the movies and getting them out to as many people as possible.

He is using for sure Facebook but he has welcomed the Web 2.0 technologies so his articles etc. can be posted on the Web 2.0 sites. He also has grown his reporters to I think about 5 that write stories for him regularly. He is also building a TV studio to speed up making his own documentaries and help more documentary makers develop their films. Like Jason Bermas of Loose Change and Invisible Empire fame. Additionally he has grown his staff too.

I hear Alex has a big ego and he does tend to pat himself on the back a lot on his program. But the dude really deserves to do it some. He can be really sarcastic though when talking about the NWO and the shit is so comical especially when he talks in his funny voices. But he gets awesome guests like Max (monthly), Bob Chapman (weekly), Ron Paul (at least monthly) Gerald Celente, Dave Mustaine, Jesse Ventura, Charlie Sheen, Paul Craig Roberts, Joseph Stiglitz, politicians, economists, etc. gosh just so many. It's really fascinating to see the development of his show and the growth especially in this era of a mainstream media that doesn't talk about a lot of what Alex discusses.

Basically, there is Alex Jones, and everyone else. I guess I mainly mean in alt/underground radio. Jeff Rense' site is pretty damned good too and his radio guests are awesome. Topics from UFOs to finance to politics to Nikola Tesla. Great, great stuff. www.rense.com

I guess the reason I mention this is Alex has started posting many stories from Zero Hedge at his site. I think I learned of Zero Hedge from a Porter Stansberry e-mail but shortly after that, articles started being posted on www.infowars.com


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 23:17 | 426123 Implicit simplicit
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Thanks for the RX Doc. I have saved them to my favorites.

Another guy that helps keep things in perspective is Hugh Smith over at "Of  Two Minds"


"Doom and gloom is only valuable if it works in a positive fashion to dispel and dismantle destructive half-truths, frauds, embezzlements, propaganda and misinformation designed to serve and protect the fiefdoms of the status quo."

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 23:45 | 426147 TheGoodDoctor
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A side note about the DVD's for sale on Alex's site: Many of them are on sale right now for $5 and $10. You can get all 18 of his DVD's for $170. A real bargain if you ask me for the amount of information that you are getting. And most of his DVD's are over 2 hours. A couple clock in at 3 hours+. So, if anyone is interested in buying some, now is a pretty good time for deals on his site.


Another really good one is the DVD with interviews with Aaron Russo. Russo made some noise with his documentary America: Freedom To Fascism - which is awesome! He has some interesting info that one of the Rockefellers told him. Unfortunately Russo past away in 2007. A little known fact is that Russo invented bikini panties for women. And cross dressers. LOL. He should be given a Nobel Peace Prize just for that alone! :)

The dude lived an interesting life to say the least!


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:17 | 425829 TheGoodDoctor
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Alex also said that Max is getting his own show on www.gcnlive.com I guess it is Saturdays at 9 AM Central. Should be good. I like that GCN Live has free archiving. I used to pay $10 a month for that for about 4 years or so. Then they made it free! Anyway archived for you listening pleasure.

I love when Max is on. He cracks me up. Especially the way he can't believe all the stuff that is going on.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:28 | 425847 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How does Max have time for all his shows?  TV+Radio he has about a dozen!  Maybe he cloned himself?

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:12 | 425910 TheGoodDoctor
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I don't know man. It sounded like his BBC show is no longer. But I am glad he is doing all his shows. I haven't watched a whole lot on his site but I have watched when people post links here to good video on Max's site (like Gerald Celente and Peter Schiff recently). I can't wait to see what he will do and what guests he has on the GCN Live show. Max has educated me a lot too.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:25 | 425928 OldTrooper
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I've wondered the same thing.  Max spends as much time on the air in a week as I spend awake.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 23:55 | 426161 TheGoodDoctor
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Also mentioned today was that Max was helping some (I think) French guy look into the puts that were on the airlines and other companies the day before 9/11 for some documentary the dude was making.

He also said that a FOIA request of this information from the SEC came back saying that this information had been "destroyed".

Max also stated that there was 2 million never claimed for some of the puts.

That's fucked up. Did ZH do a story on this FOIA request?

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:47 | 425786 J K
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To simplify the equation: BP=TBTF!

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:00 | 425802 GlassHammer
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So BK<BP because BP=TBTF?


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:00 | 425803 GlassHammer
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So BK<BP because BP=TBTF?


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:00 | 425804 Mitchman
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What could be more delicious than just before the midterm elections the US and English taxpayers bailing out BP!

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:37 | 425860 williambanzai7
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Today's FNC=tomorrows BOW. Falling knife catcher/Bailout whore

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:49 | 425787 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I think this is all a fabulous argument for wiping out all of this derivative dreck.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:58 | 425800 Mitchman
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+1!  You can bet the guys looking to wipe this garbage out in Europe are watching.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:03 | 425805 Implicit simplicit
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Here, here! I resemble with that remark.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:49 | 425789 Mercury
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I still believe that, BP, abetted by the UK government, will sell off non-US assets to tough bastard parties and dividend out the proceeds (or something) before they let UK investors go bust on BP's stock/bonds.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:52 | 425790 J K
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Those "tough bastard parties" might well include Petrochina, Gazprom or Petróleos de Venezuela.


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:04 | 425809 Monkey Craig
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PDVSA has several things going against it:

I'm not sure if they can raise money in capital markets, they have very capital intensive operations, and for about a decade , the country has had significant brain drain from Venezuela to Houston, NY and Calgary. Not all of the Spanish speakers in these cities are Mexican. Some are highly paid engineers.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:20 | 425833 Mercury
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I was thinking more like China dumps some US Treasuries to finance the operation.

Double ouch.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 19:53 | 425793 I need more asshats
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Although they may indeed be moral bankrupt, they are no where close to being financially bankrupt.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:05 | 425810 Careless Whisper
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there's no need to worry about Bilderberg Petroleum. they're about to borrow about $50 billion from wall street (and possibly the federal reserve bank).  so the spill will cost them about $5 billion a year in interest for the next 20 years. not a big deal for them. plus with things in the middle east heating up, oil could easily go above $100/barrel.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:03 | 425807 HarryWanger
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BP will not go BK. Plain and simple. Maybe if they had 5 wells of this size simultaneously spewing millions of gallons, it would be a different story. Right now, they'll be able to handle this.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:06 | 425811 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Psst...Harry....PMs making moves!

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:10 | 425822 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Psstt..psstt..psst!!!  Who's watching, who's watching!!!!!

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:17 | 425827 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Don't be scared China.....

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:32 | 425850 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Oh woah Platinum!  How do you say Capitulation in Mandarin and Cantanese?


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:51 | 425879 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yeah, that was a hell of a spike up and right back down.

Kind of flash-crash like... 

How do you say Manipulation in Mandarin?

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:59 | 425888 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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How do you say $100+p/b during a global depression in Mandarin?

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:09 | 425904 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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And to whomever is trolling, chill out and eat a juice pop-sickle...

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 25 in G minor:


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:18 | 425831 frog
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uh, should I say God save the Queen, how much of BP she has ?

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:28 | 425846 Atomizer
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Widows, Orphans and Maiden Lane Cruise Lines. The irony.


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:29 | 425848 ratava
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BP is not TBTF. it is not a bank.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:50 | 425878 Mactheknife
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Ahhh, but here's the rub. If whoever sold all of that CDS protection on those CSOs and BP bonds is TBTF or otherwise well connected,(wink,wink) there might be a good chance that failure of those instruments might not be an option or otherwise allowed to happen. In which case, over the next month or so might just be a good time to buy BP. IMO, the only way BP starts to have an unmanageable problem is if oil gets back down to around 50 at the end of the summer. Which is a distinct possibility.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:36 | 425857 459F
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And here comes the hurricane.

From Acuweather:  Florida may be hit, depending upon what happens in the next few days.
Starts talking about Florida/gulf danger at about the 2:40 mark.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:39 | 425862 bugs_
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Outstanding Tyler.  Thanks so much for showing us what may be the tip of another iceberg!

Incredible while at the same time so  believable.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:42 | 425867 Turd Ferguson
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Well, this is probably appropriate on this thread, too. 

BP is a goner. Sure as shit.


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:43 | 425870 bugs_
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OMG they better have freaking secret service protection on the relief well dude.

OMG they better have the freaking US NAVY protecting those relief wells.


Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:49 | 425876 jkruffin
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How about this beauty of news,  thanks Obama you freaking idiot, and your great health care reform plan that is a total failure.  These Congressmen need to be ousted, not just from the office, but from the country.



Mon, 06/21/2010 - 20:55 | 425887 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Wait, I don't have free Health Care yet?

Rut Roh!

<Sarasm roff>

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:04 | 425894 Muir
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Everthing you ever wanted to know about CSOs (but were afaraid to ask)



Terri Duhon is vice-president of European synthetic structured product at JPMorgan Securities Ltd.



Synthetic products

The next leap forward in the development of the credit derivative product was its synthetic nature. Since credit derivatives are contracts and not cash transfers (that is, bonds or loans), dealers can effectively create credit risk synthetically. In other words, there is no need to own the loan or the bond. This synthetic creation of credit risk enables banks to structure tailor-made products for investors.

From the creation of synthetic risk, coupled with access to a wider range of credits, a wide spectrum of products evolved. A recent and innovative development is the managed synthetic securitisation, or the collateralised synthetic obligation (CSO) product. This product marries credit derivatives and traditional cash securitisation techniques. It allows investors to gain access to a diversified portfolio of credits where the default risk is managed by an experienced asset manager.

The primary feature of CSO investments is that they provide efficient access to leverage simply because there is no cash aspect to the underlying credit risk. The other valuable features of the product are based on the fundamental drivers of the credit derivatives market. In a traditional cash securitisation, a credit must exist in cash form (bond or loan) for the asset manager to add it to the portfolio. With a CSO, there is no need for the credit to exist in cash form. If the company exists, a credit derivative can be created on that name, in the exact maturity and currency that the CSO requires.

Tailored portfolios

Furthermore, the portfolio of credits can be tailored to the strengths of the asset manager as well as to the interests of the investors. If the asset manager has predominantly European credit expertise, the portfolio can consist of predominantly European credits. Similarly, if the investors are interested in five-year dollar-denominated investments, the CSO can produce a five-year dollar-denominated investment.

As the credit derivative market continues to grow and develop, more innovative products that are designed to address specific investor needs are expected to come into play. In the synthetic securitisation market, JPMorgan expects the base product for ongoing innovation to be the CSO.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:05 | 425898 Muir
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This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:09 | 425905 dark pools of soros
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how are any of these deemed a 'product'???!!!


Product means you PRODUCED something... even shit is more of a product than these financial viruses

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:13 | 425913 Muir
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This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez JPMorgan Securities Corporation JPMorgan Securities Ltd- helping America into the New World.

Mon, 06/21/2010 - 21:04 | 425895 HFT1
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Let EM burn! I just paid $10 a lb for boiled shrimp.

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