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April 14th SPY close $84.35; VWAP close: $84.77

April 15th SPY close$85.25; VWAP close: $84.41, lower than prior close.
Note the massive buying spree above $85.20, amounting to 24 million shares, a tenth of the total VWAP volume of 241 million shares.

Looking forward to news out of quant land over the next few days with intense interest.

 

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Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:00 | 2621 Anonymous (not verified)
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and by noting the discrepancy, what are you suggesting exactly? that they are artificially keeping the price of the SPY down?

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:06 | 2622 Jonah (not verified)
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I have to agree, I've been trading for more years than I care to remember and the action of the last two weeks has been as strange as I've ever seen it and increasingly "artificial". I suspect there is something going on behind the scenes and that perhaps Friday's expiration will reveal something of the hand being played...

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:10 | 2623 Anonymous (not verified)
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Hank Williams Jr. Can’t Reload in Ammunition Shortage
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=axeZXGgWdAWM

Gold, Guns, and Groceries baby.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:11 | 2624 Anonymous (not verified)
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To be real honest, I'm short like crazy. Looking for Sunday night fireworks like Marty promised.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:17 | 2625 Anonymous (not verified)
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If the market turns like Marty says, I will start a new religion in his name.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:19 | 2626 Anonymous (not verified)
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who is Marty please?

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:23 | 2627 Anonymous (not verified)
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martin armstrong, april 23

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:26 | 2628 Matthew C. (not verified)
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Yes, the market action the last 2-3 weeks has been incredibly weird. There's some crazy big-block buying going on every time the market gets weak. . .

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:28 | 2629 Anonymous (not verified)
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The date is April 19th....

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:34 | 2630 Anonymous (not verified)
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tyler, a better way to look at it intraday is "SPY index IGPV go

You can then compare volume spikes throughout the day. There is a giant one at the end of today's session. your post is just looking at volume spikes by price.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:41 | 2631 Anonymous (not verified)
Wed, 04/15/2009 - 21:49 | 2632 Anonymous (not verified)
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not that this has any bearing on the quality of Martin's thinking but he does speak from a unique circumstance:

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/a/martin_a_ar...

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:03 | 2633 Anonymous (not verified)
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I enjoy your blog, but your bearish view has caused readers (if they followed you) to miss the greatest 5 weeks since 1933.

This is an educational blog but does not make people money.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:08 | 2634 Anonymous (not verified)
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if you want to "make money" off a blog stick to seeking alpha. it is full of clueless permabulls. if you want to learn the facts stick with ZH and Calc Risk

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:11 | 2635 Anonymous (not verified)
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@ 5:28 PM

Not his original model. The 19th date is a revision. So I have some wiggle room factored in.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:18 | 2636 Anonymous (not verified)
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The commenter does have a point tough. "Dont fight the tape" is an age old phrase and it makes a LOT of sense. Look you can be bearish just dont let it overwhelm all thinking.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:25 | 2637 Anonymous (not verified)
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Folks here are trying to make a hill out of a mole. The fact of the matter is that the market is going up and yet everyone has an embedded opinion that the market should be going down.

Sure this could be a bear market rally, but there is no reason to play it accordingly. There are several ways to skin this cat, but to sit here and call the market "insane" is definetely not the way to make money.

That's why there are bloggers and there are professional traders. This blog is very informative and one of my favorite ones, but I would not go beyond that.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:28 | 2638 Eric (not verified)
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You can be bearish? Pray tell can someone give me a reason to be bullish?

The world is hopelessly insolvent. There are 6k homes in my county in the process of foreclosure. It encompasses a mid size city.

I don't know about you but everywhere I turn I see horrendous fundamentals. So, the fact that spz have rallied means jack. I could wake up one day to reality and they have fallen 100 handles because Japan has decided do print a quadrillion Yen if the YEN doesn't fall 40% against the US Peso.

As Tyler's quant example stated...if u are smart u are either in cash or losing money.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:30 | 2639 In Debt We Trust (not verified)
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PPT. PPT. PPT.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 22:37 | 2640 Anonymous (not verified)
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maybe zh should just write, the market is going up, because it's going up...i suppose that'll make some of you happy

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:02 | 2641 Matthew C. (not verified)
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Hey, I'm bearish as all get-out (to S&P 300ish) but I've been making nice money daytrading this ludicrous, absurd rally.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:14 | 2642 tippi canoe (not verified)
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perhaps the real purpose of ZH is not to make $ (or lose it) but to reveal how $ is being made.

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btw, muchas gracias whoever linked the new marty missive last night.

the cover drawing itself is fantastico!

clicky on tippi to go behind the curtain

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:17 | 2643 Anonymous (not verified)
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If the bloggers were 1/10 as smart as they think they are they;d have at least 10X the money they have.

That's a 100x underperformance.

Bears got full of themselves when it was easy. Notice none of them tell you how much this fake rally is costing them.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:18 | 2644 watch out this weekend (not verified)
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and for those holding their breath for marty's magic day:

"Armstrong once advised Canadian technical analyst Ross Clark that markets which were trending the strongest going into a cyclic turn point would be the most likely to reverse. "It is the concentration of capital that creates booms and the subsequent busts.""

"I should stress this is only a secondary turn date. There are plenty of examples in the past where nothing of any significance has happened at these junctures. In other words, they do not always work."

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:25 | 2645 Anonymous (not verified)
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cetin, is that you? did they finally kick you out of seeking alpha for failing the minimal IQ test so you have decided to troll tyler's website directly? you are a piece of work

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:28 | 2646 bullish bear, bearish bull (not verified)
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me up 21.3695% from 2/17-4/15.
SPY up 7.6112% in same period.

shapeshifting's fun.

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:33 | 2647 Anonymous (not verified)
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I'm with you "watch out this weekend".

It's going to be a non-event as we soar up to 950-975. There is a total lack of liquidity on the short side. We need more bears!

The rocketship needs fuel.

If the market was full of bulls(everyone buying, no one selling) we wouldn't go anywhere, right?

Wed, 04/15/2009 - 23:57 | 2648 Anonymous (not verified)
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"If the market was full of bulls(everyone buying, no one selling) we wouldn't go anywhere, right?"

According to the basic supply/demand curve, we would go to the moon actually.

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 00:24 | 2649 poolparty (not verified)
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oversold

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 00:27 | 2650 Anonymous (not verified)
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@7:57 PM
Strictly speaking, when no one is selling there is nothing to buy...

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 00:30 | 2651 poolparty (not verified)
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overbought! i meant overbought. i'm tweaking on coffee.

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 00:32 | 2652 inthemoney (not verified)
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Wasn't today 401K investment day? That would explain the pop at the end of the day.

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 00:59 | 2653 Anonymous (not verified)
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Wait until the Obamatick rule is implemented. This is nothing.

The goal is to finance the recovery on the backs of every short seller by simultaneously ramping all trading vehicles.

Futures up even more as we speak.

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 02:09 | 2654 Anonymous (not verified)
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3pm beige book

cnbc hyping it

Thu, 04/16/2009 - 03:01 | 2655 Anonymous (not verified)
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Actually Marty could be following the very dead William Gann...who points out April 20-25 is a time for a change of trend.

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