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Canada Government Falls After Vote Of No Confidence Gets Enough Votes To Pass
A second government falls in one week, after Canada's conservatives are defeated in a no confidence vote, following Portugal government fall on Wednesday. Belgium must feel like a veteran in the anarchy department, which seems to be claiming more and more countries, or at least those that do not adopt a revolutionary route.
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yet another minority govt here we come..
same as it ever was...
yeah, exactly. minority governments and non-confidence votes go hand in hand. this is not big news.
Just like in the US, there is no good choice available to Canadians. All the parties have been compromised, the only real difference may be in what special interests they favor.
These guys deserve jail time, not just dissolution of Parliament! When Canada's subprime experiment comes to an end some awefully uncomfortable questions will be asked of these politicians!
Check out the latest from the Capital Research Institute "The Day The Standards Died":
We have spent a lot of time discussing the Gold standard and what it means to have the world reserve currency here at the Capital Research Institute. But today we want to look at something a little different, but just as crucial: the importance of accounting standards. OK, OK, I am hearing the yawns already, just bear with me! When the Financial Crisis hit in late 2008 not only did Capitalism die, when the Government decided bankrupt firms (of their choosing) should no longer be exposed to the risk of failure! The history books are going to be speechless on that one, and will simple relate: “It seemed like a good idea at the time!?!?” But what may have slipped under a lot of (non-accounting) people’s noses was that accounting standards were also effectively removed at that time. The most important of which were mark-to-market accounting rules.
Well said!
Don't forget CAFR accounting standards. The public only gets to see one third of what really goes on in their cities and towns with the general fund. If people only knew.
http://www.capitalresearchinstitute.org
Note to self: When posting links, remember to include the link!
U S Protectionism just around the corner....
http://seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil.blogspot.com/2011/03/us-protectionism-just-around-corner.html
The US needs a lot more protectionism to protect and get jobs back.
Stop with your mercantilist fallacies already. I can't tell if you're a charicature or not at this point. I've stopped reading the comments section of most threads because of the stupid debates and tirades your inane and economically illiterate rhetoric fosters. You speak as if the Chinese are "stealing" American jobs but you fail to consider for even ONE SECOND that maybe, just maybe you should seek to improve your attitudes and skillsets so you aren't directly competing with billions of illiterate, uneducated, unskilled country folk for menial labour jobs. God forbid people in other countries try to improve their standard of living.
Exactly. If the Chinese are stealing our jobs, then we are stealing Chinese babies. Just because they have and we don't doesn't mean they took from us. They created their own manufacturing base while we destroyed ours, just as they murdered their babies as we continued to have them.
The only thing we have to blame for our problems is the US government (for Americans--others have their own governments to blame, likely alongside the US, who exerts influence for evil worldwide).
They took nothing, we allowed it.
Dropped theTariffs,, and bye ,baby bye.
We haven't been having enough babies,(we import ours, which is not good for America) we have(like the Chi Coms),murdered 50 million Americans since '73.
These were going to be a majority of taxpayers,and provide enough new births,workers, to stop the Grey Train.
We are(Gvt) our own worst enemies.
But,,then was the plan from long ago, JD Rockefeller spoke on the U.N in '49, on the plan of self destruction, and we fell for it.
Tariffs have no more to do with the "loss" (destruction) of our industrial base than emigration had to do with the "loss" (destruction) of their children.
Further, there is a big difference between voluntary abortion and forced abortion, much like the difference between sex and rape. A human being holds absolute authority to their body, whether that means killing their children or their conjoined twins.
Hello, bullshit alert.
Slave wages to Chinese labor & sweetheart deals to US manufacturers to move production over there is why US manufacturing BUILT the so called Chinese miracle economy.
What the US built in China it will now tear down and reconstruct in the USA as currencies are revalued & tariffs are imposed. Book it Dano.
Why weren't the "sweetheart deals" in the US good enough? Those factories cost money. Shipping costs money. The factories already existed in the US, and we have the natural advantage of not having to ship overseas.
Look up the names of the manufacturers. They are all Chinese, not American. The factories in America collapsed under the weight of the regulations we imposed. THis would have happened whether or not there was a manufacturing base in China to pick up the slack.
Regulation and taxation have taken their toll.
Tariffs and currency devaluation will have no effect save to cut us off from 95+% of manufactured goods. That is the quickest route to third world conditions.
You, like 95% of US citizens, and 99% of politicians, don't understand economics. Cry "bullshit" all you like.
I think that perhaps the only economics you understand is the discredited Chicago-school stuff, as evidenced by your comment about the "regulation and taxation" boogeyman. For manufactured goods, the single largest cost input is labour. US companies were happy to pay the cost of shifting all their production over to China years ago in order to pay people less than a dollar a day. The savings were immense, and once the doors were opened by the elimination of tariffs under GATT, US companies sent all of their capital over there.
The names of the manufacturers are Chinese, but where do you think their funding came from to build those factories and manufacturing equipment? Did it just materialise out of thin air? Foreign Direct Investment into China has been massive for the last two decades. Where exactly do you think that money was going?
Did anyone catch BlackRock's Larry Fink lie through his teeth on CNBC yesterday? Comparing our US banks with those of Europe, " since our US banks 'mark to market', we have had more success in raising capital....."
Aside: the blackberry web interface SUCKS! no wonder rimm is tanking
Canadian gov't collapses every two years.....move on, nothing to see here.
Government FAIL!
canadian translation of the message from the people to the government:
take off, eh? hosers...
hoser!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRlcjz3acU
Simultaneous Drudge headline: CANADA TAKES CHARGE ON LIBYA
They'll have those silly muzzies playing hockey by the time Lord Stanley's Cup is awarded this year
I Guess We Will Be Voting Out All Incumbents Next
do that once or twice and maybe the govm't will finally listen. if nothing else, the PTB will be pissed at having to re-invest millions to "buy" a whole new freshman class of Reps & Senators.
The puppets on the right hand will be replaced with the puppets on the left hand. Same puppet master. Same scam.
True, BUT, different string!
not at all ... both left and right run their own Ponzi schemes in Govt... whichever party is in power makes no difference, there's collusion under the table (in contempt of their jobs, their office and democracy itself) in a secret agreement not to knock chunks out of each others ponzis/budgets, just get along 'peaceably' doing their own left-right thing
Proof: the Tea Party has rocked the GOP boat. GOP have muted cuts in social security etc then up pops Barney Frank huffing (on TV) that if cuts are on the table, so should be the defence budget. You can bet within minutes of the sack of festering hot air that is Barney spouting off the GOP's military-industrial sponsors are on the blower telling GOP'ers to stop rocking the boat
Hence DC budgets never get cut, they only ever go up, no cuts can be made, raising the debt ceiling is the only way out for these left-right ponzi schemers
What? No mention of the Koch familiy?
Shill for corporate control you are...
NOTE: Please quit defacing the anarchist emblem, you give it a bad name.
hey funky, weren't you the guy speaking adout the whereabouts of the kiser coins?
Yes friend, apparently mine have been posted, just waiting for them to turn up! I know a few people who have got theirs and are selling them for 5 times the price they paid on Feebay!
I'm betting that the Conservatives form another government anyway.. they have had a slight lead over the liberals for years, and Ignatief has the personality of a wet sock. In the end they're all politicians so it matters not. My biggest concern over the next few weeks is going to be choosing which guitar I'm going to buy.
How many guitars do you need? You can only play one at a time.
Sold my paul custom last year. Too heavy, but would of been a good weapon... EL Kaabong.
I already have too many! This one will be a nice acoustic, so I can get my flatpick on. I'm looking at a Martin HD-28, but I've got my eye on some Larrivees too.
Play a Taylor before you buy a Martin.
Aye Ignatieff may have the personality of a wet sock, but Harper has the personality of a dead fish. The difference is that Harper's actually done a few things and has less political baggage.
Harper has less political baggage than Ignaitieff?
Harper is the first PM in history to be found in contempt of Parliament.
Are you drinking the Conservative party kool-aid? Try again, maybe.
Ha no way I'm a Liberal but I've been completely disillusioned by Ignatieff. He hasn't even lived in Canada for most of his life. While harper is an asshole, who has to duct tape all his ministers mouths shut or they will start trashing immigrants, public healthcare, and a whole lot of sacred Canadian things, but keeps such a tight lock on the party that they still manage to wi.
Harper is a corporate puppet, and has been systematically selling out Canada to the corporate elite (Scott Walker II)... Canadians are finally waking up. Not in time to stop the R/E crash, caused by Harper's sell out to the banks, though... better late than never.
idiot
More Conservative party Kool-aid. I'd rather have a Harvard professor than a dysfunctional geek in charge, thanks very much.
Err did you miss the part where I said I'm Liberal (and I've voted Liberal party all my life?) I'm guessing you're just trolling, but this harvard professor has spent the majority of his adult life outside of Canada. So no, he should not be our Prime Minister. I'd take jack layton over either of them ha.
I actually find Jack the most intelligent leader of the bunch. Great response to questions regarding his health in the scrum after the vote. But doesn't mean I will vote NDP.
Edit: But doesn't mean I won't either
Our comments arrived conteporaneously, actually.
Funny: lots of positive Jack comments all around the place...
Harvard professor.... dysfunctional geek
redundant much?
Meh, Harper "concealed" no more from parliament than Chretien did. Difference is - Harper ran a minority government and the left in Canada has literally foamed at the mouth since Harper first won in 2006. Bringing down the government on a reasonable enough budget must have looked like hara kiri; contempt merely suicide (if latest polls showing an almost 20 point lead is to be believed).
In any case, when a LPC partisan like Kinsella calls this a bad move....it might just be one....
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/warren_kinsella/2011/03/24/...
Just so non-Canadians know - the Toronto Sun is like the NY Daily Post - who knows - they may have the same owners.
...doesn't change the fact that Kinsella, arch-Liberal (and head of Ignatieff's war room) penned the opinion.
I will read, digest and get back to you. Fight club - CDN version.
The trend is moving toward anarchy.
KO-lapse, baby
You wish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer
not too long before the rule of law is laughed at
Too bad, it was never even tried
There are no laws anymore. Reason is veiled by the darkness of corporatocracy. Corporations can rape and pillage workers and their land, while the dialectic pits a false paradigm of bureaucracy vs bureaucracy by government vs. corporations; both have failed to meet the demands of the people.
The rule of law is better served with strict authority, not bending to the will of monied interest.
My TV told me to tell you, stop trying to befuddle my interest.
Interesting watching my neighbor to the north throw out the baby with the bathwater. Kinda fun. I loved how so many bowed after their name was called. Polite partial anarchy. So on to May we go. Just in time for spring cleaning.
Who/where is the baby?
the dingo ate it.
Good thing they took the lead on Libya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
Lemmee guess. Another Soros Open Society initiative?
And Rockefucker foundation..
Oh well, good riddance. Now time for Obama's to fall.
We wish re Owebama.
I had no idea that Canada´s .gov was so weak. I should be paying more attention to Canada and less to Peru, gold, Fukushima, US debt, MENA, doom for Europe, etc.!
I had no idea Canada had a government. Lol
If you lived there, and paid their taxes, and prices for housing you would damn sure know there was.
Only three great things come out of Canada.
Their Soldiers, their Male and Female vocalists/Artist's, and the beautiful women.(the enviroment is pretty too, if you can stand the winters.)
If they EVER got a REAL conservative Gv't, no telling what they could accomplish.
We wish. we gotta wait until 2012. :o[
Still, i'm suprised with you guys.... didn't know of your mood until this article. what is Canada irritated over?
you've still got hot babes, decent beer and loads of Au & Ag.... :o]
How about a FED Reserve Bank Referendum??? Would there be any mesurement of confidence?
people vote with their wallets every day. most FOR. accounts, checks, debit cards, credit cards, mortgages, car loans, trusts, e checks, dir. deposit, CD's, nice balances, and may we introduce you to some of our many new products?
almost 75% of all transactions daily go thru them. used yer card for yer coffee, get free points, miles, and, if you don't vote with yer feet, rubearish, 10, maybe a nice new toaster shoved where the sun don't shine, along with national debt.
i know how convenient they are for you, 10; i also know how convenient you are, for them. do you?
use them as sparingly as you can figure is humanly possible, for you.
vote with yer feet.
it counts!
You're a salesman : I'm gonna get some more new wolf Canadian silver bullions with those credit cards.
Beware when the toaster is shoved between the second and the third time. Cause two eyes are better than one.
On the bright side, NATO just appointed a Canadian general to head "Operation: What Were We Doing Again?" in Libya.
He helped a lot solving the jet fighters drunken piloted problem. You know, when you have been there...
What is the issue that lead to this no confidence vote? As with most americans, I am clueless as to the political situation in canada.
Well they've been threatening to do it for years but I think the main issue is the budget. Plus the Harper government has been less than transparent on a few issues pertaining to detainee abuse in Afghanistan, and on a few other issues. Mostly, I think the opposition was just waiting for the right moment to smell a whiff of weakness. Politics as usual. I think it will blow up in their faces.
A parliamentary committee recently recommended the government be found in contempt for failing to provide enough information about the costs of its crime legislation. Milliken ruled earlier this month that, "on its face," the government appeared to have breached the parliamentary privilege of MPs by refusing to release the information.
The Liberal motion stated that the Commons agreed with the committee's finding that the government was in contempt.
"The principle at stake in this debate goes to the heart of parliamentary democracy: the obligation of a government to provide members of this House with the information they need in order to hold the government accountable to the people of Canada," said Ignatieff.
The Conservatives hold 143 of the 308 seats in the Commons. The Liberals hold 77, the Bloc Quebecois 47, and the NDP 36. There are two independent MPs, Helena Guergis and Andre Arthur. There are three vacant seats.
http://www2.canada.com/nanaimodailynews/news/story.html?id=4503131
So basically it's lack of transparency. That's unusual for government (rolls eyes).
""What is the issue that lead to this no confidence vote? As with most americans, I am clueless as to the political situation in canada.""
Eastern Canada's Provinces of Ontario and Quebec forever have controlled the Country's purse strings.
They each continue to run up humungus Debt and budget deficits and expect Western Canada to pony up Eastern Canada's share.
Not gonna happen.
....You are witnessing the beginning of Western Canada's four Provinces stand up and who will no doubt follow thru with Secessation.
Pacific North West States should follow suit and respectively.
Alberta perhaps would like to go it alone. Manitoba, Saskatchawan and BC will never go along.
the only thing going for BC is all the foreign money being parked there. there is literally no industry or jobs in BC. This whole western canada is the best place to live is just bullshit.an average house in Vancouver is 1 million. Cant wait for that bubble to pop. If it hadnt been for the chinese parking money in vancouver it would have deflated a long time ago.
dup
What a load of crap. Canada has a policy of taxing the "have" provinces to subsidise the "have nots". There are 2 have provinces, Ontario and British Columbia of which Ontario contributes 90%. The rest stick with Confederation only as long as they can take more out than they are putting in.
Every time there is an oil boom and Alberta starts contributing more than they take out, they start yelling about how unfair the system is. As soon as the price of oil drops they shut up and stick their hand out again.
there is only one have province........ALBERTA. All the new vehicles you see in ontatio were paid for by wages made in alberta
Quick googling did not produce any reasonable explanation as to why this has happened. Can someone explain the root concern that these liberachies have?
Gov't breaking rules and not stating the facts. Sound familiar?
That could never happen State side - ahemmhmhmh
It's the Liberal bloodlust for power. This is about a minority Conversative govt vs. a coalition of socialist parties. In this case the balance of power if a coalition were to be formed would be held by the Bloc Quebecois who are a separatist party.
Canada has performed well in the global crisis and this has enraged the socialist parties that would rather run up the debt with new social programs across the board. We got socialize medicine, so they want govt run daycare next. More union workers more support.
Most Canadians don't want this so lets see if there is a price to pay.
The entire reason Canada has preformed well is Jean Chretien, a liberal. He and Paul Martin as his finance minister brought Canada back from Mulroney's madness, a conservative BTW. It took quite a while and some austerity but Harper inherited a very strong economy.
Funny so when it's a strong economy then the conservatives inherited it (Canada) when it's a weak economy then Obama inherited it... Liberal coloured glasses?
Don't confuse Conservatives with the facts.
You should study actual history, not LPC talking points. Trudeau almost doubled government spending in Canada to 48% of GDP. Mulroney inherited the debt, and interest rates that were dramatically higher in the 1980's than the 1960's and 1970's.
Chretien and Martin merely cut government spending back to halfway between Trudeau's first year and last year as PM.
They cut nothing. They downloaded the problem onto the provinces and kept their own perks.
Links please.
By marjority vote today in the House of Commons, the Harper Government was found in contempt of Parliament.
Funny how other posters here aren't mentioning that inconvenient fact.
For not mentioning the price of certain yet-to-be-finished programs. Is that worth an election at a cost of $300 million worth it?
Funny how other posters aren't mentioning that
It was a majority vote in the House of Commons. I guess that has less importance for you?
PLUS: as in ALL other Conservative governments, the deficit has gone up. It is a fact.
Harper wanted this...he is over 40% in the polls in Onterrible...hello Majority!
So what? All I know is that Duke got killed by the Wildcats last night. Too many white boys, I hear, on Duke.
And another Burger King got trashed by a big booty "black rage" sistah in a bikini. Coming to a McD or BK near you.
Not for me. In our blue states (NY for me) we keep the riff-raff in their own towns.
Economic segregation, bitchezzz.
and vanderbilt was "too white" to make the 16, according to racist sportswriters.
Duke was champion last year with white boys, surely must have been raycism
In Belgium's case the big headline would be if they would ever get a government. =D
No government or a government that screws you at every turn?
Damn, wish we had that choice!
If you are partial to a bit of Belgium bashing, this will be right up your street - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pke1mQmjwg
Thanks for the laughs!
Who needs a loathesome govt when you have chocolate, great beer and french fries. Aaand you're close to everything else in Europe. Are they accepting anarchists from other locations?
How many americans know where Canada is on a world map?
How many americans know where America is on a world map?
How many americans know what a map is?
How many americans know how many americans know the correct answers to the questions above, including this question?
;-)
If you ask that question with a box of popcorn as prize...you'd be surprised how intelligent people become! That's the true american spirit of enterprise. Nothing comes free...
Um, americans Iraqi, being as such, americans have no maps, providing free education as such.
Well played sir. Well played. This NEVER gets old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
You are nothing if not consistent with your trolling.
A lot. But does a dog with a flea on it's back care?
How many different threads do you intend to post this drivel on?
The Harper government is their best hope. The revolutionary minde socialists will bring them down
Sorry gwar - have to junk you for that.
Edit: Same gov that went into Libya with no parliamentary discussion? Whether Obama or Harper does it - I think it is wrong.
And yet the vile bureaucrats keep their jobs. The foolish regulations and "laws" stand. The taxes and corruption remain.
The government hasn't fallen. It's just growing a new head.
The politics of Lernaean Hydra
Next failed state, the U.S.A. : Mr. Obama gets impeached.
I suppose the good thing is that our elections come fairly quickly after a short campaigning run. None of this two years business.
Why don't you elect Mrs Obama as president or prime minister. That way you get the best of both worlds!
Dr. P, i vote absentee in cali. last year, instead of the ballot, i got a note in the mail, saying the ballot wouldn't be mailed to me till a date much closer to the election, this time.
lol! everybody was broke! the state, the county, right down to the scool districts. no credit @ the printers and the Post Office? won't take an i.o.u.? i think the county clerk had to get in some funding line. for a while.
i figured if things get much worse, they'd be sending out the ballots and the booklets after the election!
Gotta get the election out of the way before the campaign financing trials in June, so table a budget that will be rejected, and hope the ensuing election delivers a few more seats, even a majority.
To all those who have no idea about Canadian politics, this all falls into Harpers hands, he's just renewing his terms before shit goes bad.
well, we'll just hafta see if Gilles Duceppe has a thing or two to say about that, now, won't we?
This is by design. Harper's government presented a budget that they knew the other parties would not support to force an election. Harper's pole numbers are up and this is their chance at a majority.
yup.
That's what it looks like. Harper is a douchebag, but he's no slouch when it comes to strategy. Ignatief is dreaming if he thinks he's getting a government.
Ignatief is a Carpetbagger.
I'm not sure. I know what the polls are saying but when my dyed-in-the-wool conservative brother is bitching about Harper .... there seems to be a lot of disatisfaction aimed specifically at Harper especially wrt transparency.
Take away the banks' licence to print money ...
http://canadianactionparty.ca/news-articles/monetary-reform/330-take-away-the-banks-licence-to-print-money
That's what it looks like. Harper is a douchebag, but he's no slouch when it comes to strategy. Ignatief is dreaming if he thinks he's getting a government.
Righty right you are.
A go for the throat kinda guy is our little Stevie.
Latest poll:
A new poll suggests the Conservatives hold a commanding lead in public support heading into the campaign. The Conservatives command 43 per cent support among decided voters, putting them well within reach of a majority, according to an Ipsos Reid commissioned by Postmedia News and Global National. The Liberals registered 24 per cent support, the NDP are at 16 per cent, the Bloc at 10 per cent, and the Green Party at six per cent.
The die is cast ... what the hell is Iggy thinking?
The more I think about this, the more I see Harper's plan. He knows he's got some problems, but he still has a lead, and he knows there's no serious contender from the Liberals..and certainly not the NDP. This saves him from having to do what he did last time he was under pressure to come clean on his government's actions... prorogation.
Ignatief fell right into his trap.
Not to stomp on your end of the world tirade Tyler, but governments fall in Canada every couple years and is no big deal really. Voters here are actually quite exhausted of voting. It's more to do with an endless power struggle and dealing with Quebec's endless stream of complaints and the NDP plan to further bankrupt the nation (yah I'm from Alberta bitchez).
Exactly. Odds are harper wins ANOTHER minority gov., and we do this shit for a few more years, until he really fucks up and the liberals get voted back in.
But if Harper can pull off a majority, Iggy will be toast, and next on the program will be another Liberal leadership convention. Justin Trudeau? Hmm, I don't know, he's still pretty young and untested, but who else is there? A lot of ifs, here, but it'd be interesting to see how the west would react to another Trudeau, and this one seems even further to the left than his papa.
Yeah the same Justin Trudeau who got his skirt in a knot when the govt called honour killings and female gential mutilation barbaric. He thought the term barbaric was too inflamatory. Yeah he'd make a great leader...
JT will be Prime Minister within 10 years.
Watch Jim Prentice. That is all i am saying.
the scary thing about another trudeau is that he is liberal aristocracy. He will get the apahtetic youth vote out. his old man rode surfed the baby boomers into power and fucked the country permanantly.
ye we're doing just terribly up here and every day we curse trudeau for it.
I don't know about fucking the country permanently, but he did give the conservatives a gift that keeps on giving.. the ability to stir up westerners about NEP.
Yep. If I didn't tune into the radio, I wouldn't even know it was on. Zero conversation among co-workers during the lunch hour. People are tuning this out.
Are you prepared for anarchy? Most americans wig out if they get a flat tire or Blackberry service is interupted....this should be a great show!
Belgium, indeed, Tyler.
Where IS Sudden Debt when you need him?
Isn't Sudden German?
He might be German, but I believe he is in Belgium.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19086_5-reasons-humanity-terrible-at-demo...
Yeah, it's THEIR fault!
Democracy is to Authoritarianism what Xeer is to Democracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeer
Let me throw a "crazy" idea out there.
Lets pull our troops out of these "tough" places like Iraq and Libya and simply move them to Canada? They have lots of resources and won't put up the fight these A-Rabs are putting up.
Next time I see Hillary, I'll mention it.
Yeah we'll just be passive aggressive, make some snide remarks, demand voting rights, then force the U.S. into SOCIALISM!
Far from being crazy ; plenty of water and nice chicks too.
(Or maybe you think Hillary is a better deal?)