• Reggie Middleton
    02/09/2010 - 05:12
    The levered assets of the banks in many Euro-sovereign nations easily outstrip those nations' GDP's. So when the nations' banks get in trouble from bad banking practices (and a very large swath have), the nations themselves are helpless in attempting to truly save the banks (and instead only institute a bait and switch wherein private default risk/insolvency potential is swapped for public manifestations of the same).
  • madhedgefundtrader
    02/09/2010 - 07:22
    The rug may about to be pulled out from under the market. The onslaught of contradictory news coming out of Washington is wearing the market down. An exclusive interview with Andrew Horowitz of The Disciplined Investor.

Capmark To File For Bankruptcy, More FDIC Headaches

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It's game over for Capmark, which is expected to file for bankruptcy within 24 hours. The firm which was formerly GMAC's commercial real estate business (Or GMAC Commercial Holding Ccapital Markets Corp in short), and had originated over $10 billion in CRE loans (by the way, did we say that CRE REITs are undervalued? if you didn't buy at least 5 shares of some multi-apartment or hotel REIT yesterday with every share of Amazon you were covering you are a bubble uninflating traitor and have to be shot for not believing in a 100x P/E), was LBOed by KKR and Goldman in 2006. Needless to say, that particular investment won't be making the next Calpers pitch book.

Hopefully at least Warren Buffett will make off like a bandit:

Capmark recently entered an agreement to sell its North American servicing and mortgage-banking operations to a new company owned by Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway and Leucadia National Corp. for as much as $490 million. Under the deal's terms, the sale could occur while Capmark is in bankruptcy, but would require a bigger cash payment.

The other question is how this bankruptcy will impact Ms. Bair's soothing message that all is well with the banking system.

Adding to Capmark's pressures, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. had notified the company that it must raise capital and boost liquidity at its Utah bank, which has roughly $10 billion in assets.


The bank would not be part of Capmark's bankruptcy filing, a person familiar with the situation said.

Maybe not tomorrow, but give it a few weeks. If the operating company was specialized in underwriting the kinds of loans that were responsible for a $1.6 billion second quarter loss, one can imagine that GMAC's bank which in May changed its name to Ally to cover its tracks, can't be far behind, especially not with Ally desperately trying to poach depositors as recently as 4 months ago with abnormally high interest rates. Zero Hedge previously wrote about the ABA's complaint against Ally: if Ally was that desperate for deposits that it would pay far higher rates then, one can only imagine how bad things must be. And with $10 billion in assets getting the traditional 30-40% haircut, there goes another $4 billion that the insolvent FDIC does not have.

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by DBLTapViper
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 14:38
#109560

Anyone ever play that "Tumbling Tower Game" were you pull out the blocks until the Tower falls?

Each day a "block" is pulled out of the "Tower" called the US Economy.

DBL

 

 

by ptoemmes
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:17
#109578

by glenlloyd
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:57
#109610

It's called Jenga and it does remind me of the crumbling US economy.

Someone might also liken it to the Tower of Babel as well. Just sayin

by tallystick
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 21:07
#109798

Yes, it's called Jenga. In Argentina they televise celebrities playing it while talking smack. They have learned to make comedy out of crashes. We will too.

by Anonymous
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 10:24
#109992

I see it differently though...Same metaphor, only the blocks are already scattered about and the tower is down...Only the media and the USgov have convinced everyone that the tower is still standing and actually getting higher.

by buzzsaw99
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 14:38
#109561

Ally can kiss myass. I wouldn't give them the sweat off my nuptials. I won't deposit money with an insolvent fascist ahole for an hundred bps, not for 500.

by bonddude
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 14:46
#109563

What a value !

By the way, In light of Ms. Bair's veiled warning any ideas on C or CIT?

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 14:57
#109571

That's JENGA (the tumbling tower game). Very fun at parties.

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:08
#109575

According to Barry they are going to use tarp to bail cit. What do you think all that smoke about smaller banks not lending was all about? The TGTF refuse to roll cit's garbage. Tarp will be used to pass it off on the tax payers and maybe uncle Ben has room to sweep the rest under the carpet.

by deadhead
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 08:23
#109950

we already have 2.3 billion of tarp into cit.....

 

by Anonymous
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 09:49
#109979

a billion here a billion there and you are still
talking chump change...

by Fritz
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:24
#109585

I'm sure its no sweat for the squid - they just push all the dogshit off to managed funds and let their clients take the hit while Squid & CO pockets deal fees.

Maybe the bankruptcy will show how much Goldman and KKR pulled out of Capmark over the last two years.

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:32
#109594

crapmark to file....hmmmm

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:33
#109595

Bickering begins, I hope Michelle Caruso Cabrerra doesn't fid out about this:

NEW YORK, Oct 20 (Reuters) - A Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc (8316.T) affiliate sued Credit Suisse Group AG (CSGN.VX), saying the Swiss bank failed to reimburse $21.64 million for its share of a loan to troubled commercial real estate company Capmark Financial Group Inc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/financialsSector/idUSN2045661620091020

Check out listings up for sale (while it lasts):

http://www.capmark.com/CAPMARK/MainPage.aspx?id=180&TSMTID=180&TSMTT=1&TSMID=0

Las Vegas Boulevard South
4915 Las Vegas Boulevard South
Las Vegas, NV

Summary
Price: Contact Broker
Building Sq. Ft: 76,765
Region : West
Year Built : 0

Description
# 120 feet of frontage on Las Vegas Blvd
# FAA approved building height of 266 feet
# Entitled for 493 units

Any offers?

by torabora
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 19:33
#109753

Fifty US dollars. Sight unseen.

by deadhead
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:38
#109600

"...you are a bubble uninflating traitor and have to be shot for not believing in a 100x P/E),"

that is some funny shit there....

by geopol
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 19:56
#109766

Not only is the PE dog shit  but I understand that the drywall is Chinese.

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:47
#109605

So what might this suggest about the high-flying REITS?

Time to buy SRS?

by VLee
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:51
#109652

DRV all the way!

by Fritz
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:47
#109606

Undoubtedly, this is the reason for the strange relative strength that REITS had on Friday. The PPT must have wanted to get out in front & started pumping the REITS in advance.

Next 2 weeks = numerous REIT 3Q earnings.

The PPT will have their hands full to keep a bid under REITS.

by Unscarred
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 15:50
#109607

I'm tired of hearing people say that "Only 100 or so banks have failed.  Over 6,000,000 failed during the S&L crisis in the 1990's."

I was only a kid then, but it all my research, the dollar figures (even in real terms) are nowhere close to the bailouts we're talking about today.

I get that the Resolution Trust Corp. was created and funded by the U.S. Government.  However, $1 trillion later, the FDIC is STILL requiring member institutions to pay 3 years worth of fees in advance so it can stay operational.

If this is supposedly "no biggie," then what the hell am I missing?!

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:00
#109614

A cup of kool-aid?

by Sqworl
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:06
#109707

LOL, LOL

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 23:53
#109867

The old S&L number included piggy banks, too, so yes, it is somewhat inflated relative to today. Oh, and to some extent the US was then a capitalist society where losers were entitled to fail.

by KevinB
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 06:56
#109927

"I'm tired of hearing people say that "Only 100 or so banks have failed.  Over 6,000,000 failed during the S&L crisis in the 1990's.""

Six million?! Where do you get that figure? Less than 1,000 S&L's failed; 750 is the number I see most often, and we're already up to 15% of that number, and I suspect that the number of failures is only going to accelerate.

Pretty soon, we're going to be calling her "Sheila (The Cupboard Is) Bair".

 

by E pluribus unum
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 08:33
#109955

He got his halocausts mixed up.

by Unscarred
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 09:59
#109984

BUUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Now THAT is FUNNY!

by Unscarred
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 09:58
#109982

[Reaches up to make sure the 'sarcasm' light is still working]

Are you serious?  Nevermind, that's a rhetorical question - you must be to respond that way to a number like that...  (Are there even 6,000,000 banks in the world?!)

Just a sarcastic remark.  Well aware of how many banks failed during the crisis.

 

by KevinB
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 10:57
#110004

Your ability to manipulate the "sarcasm" light is questionable, based on many of your posts. Try refining that tiny quality you may presume to be wit.

by Unscarred
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 14:24
#110024

[Edited] Change of thought:

Original post:

I'm tired of hearing people say that "Only 100 or so banks have failed.  Over 6,000,000 failed during the S&L crisis in the 1990's." ... If this is supposedly "no biggie," then what the hell am I missing?!

ALL comments:

A cup of kool-aid?

The old S&L number included piggy banks, too

He got his halocausts mixed up.

And then THIS:

Six million?! Where do you get that figure? Less than 1,000 S&L's failed

Over 10,000 people read this blog daily.  Everyone who responded got the quip, except you.  So either all 10,000+ readers have their heads up their asses, or you need to lighten up and develop a sense of humor.  (Funny, everyone SAYS they have one, but we all know so many others who don't.)

This isn't the WSOP where we have to continually go over the top to push someone else around or prove we're superior to them.  Likewise, you don't need to take your humorless shortcoming out on another contributor by going Chernobyl on them through the safety blanket of your computer.

Try refining that tiny quality you may presume to be wit.

Okay.  But for TYLER'S SAKE, do everyone else a favor and climb down off of your pedestal, join the other 10,000+ ZH members, chill a bit, and enjoy your stay.

Next time, look in the mirror and laugh at a joke that you didn't get, and leave your BLOG-rage at home.  It's cool, bro...

http://talentedapps.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/anonymous-peace-symbol-5...

http://northwestanglican.blogspot.com/2009/09/blog-rage.html

by mikeyv1970
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 15:51
#110138

Now THAT was a well reasoned, logical, & cogent response.  HOOHAH Unscarred...

-Michael

by Unscarred
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 17:06
#110186

It's too bad my new pal KevinB won't understand the amount of humor and sarcasm involved in it...

http://stuffunemployedpeoplelike.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/pointing...

http://www.projectswole.com/images/woman-pointing-laughing.jpg

by Cognitive Dissonance
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:07
#109617

To say that Warren Buffett is connected would be the understatement of the year. In fact, Grandpa Buffett is my nomination for Time Magazine vulture capitalist of the decade. If he keeps up this pace, he'll move up to century and we're not even out of the aughts yet.

How many times can this man show up at just the right time to sweep up the prize nuggets after some very interesting corporate explosions without someone asking something more probing than what he had for lunch? In a room full of horribly filthy people, I want to know how one man stays so clean and respectable.

His down home middle America "ah shucks" charm and dirty old man tendencies (notice he rarely gives interviews to anyone other than pretty young(er) females?) leads me to believe he's on a continuous IV drip of antibiotics to counter the near perpetual case of cooties he must contract from all those dirty deals he magically cleans up.

by E pluribus unum
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:48
#109650

You wrote:

"...(notice he rarely gives interviews to anyone other than pretty young(er) females?) "

 

You'd be hard pressed to find a good looking woman who was older than Buffett. 

by geopol
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:09
#109709

CD It's bee an amazing two years,, Last night we observed 7 banks hit the rocks, a lovely speech by the cretin SB, gold going parabolic, equities with 50-1 pe, peak oil, demand destruction,ss is broke Medicare is broke Medicaid is broke Amtrak is broke, the military industrial complex is creeping, Obama calling an emergency H1N1, Fema camps, mass graves................

 

I'm so screwed up I don't know weather to draw straws or dial 201..

by Cognitive Dissonance
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 19:40
#109757

Sometimes you write something, read it hours later, and you realize the words don't convey what you meant to say.

What I was trying to say was women considerably younger than him, much younger than a Diane Sawyer for example. I don't remember seeing one extensive interview anywhere of him with anyone other than much younger females.

I'm not talking about a reporter sticking a microphone in his face and asking him a question. I'm talking about in depth interviews. Even Bloomberg TV seems to only have him talking to women. He decides who is going to interview him and they just happen to be female.

But you sir are a nit picker. :>) 

by geopol
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 20:03
#109769

E pluribus unum,,,

Little  Becky Quick comes to mind on Buffetts Korean trip

by deadhead
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:16
#109626

Zero Hedge previously wrote about the ABA's complaint against Ally: if Ally was that desperate for deposits that it would pay far higher rates then, one can only imagine how bad things must be.

The irony of the COF ad popping up on this piece pitching a 2.30% CD is just.too.good.

 

by RobotTrader
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 16:48
#109648

Well I guess we have to wait and see what happens on Monday.

Will everyone sell this one off?

If so, where will the money go?

1.  Flee to bonds?

2.  Parked into money market funds?

3.  Pile into AMZN, BIDU, PCLN, AAPL, etc.?

Or will IYR actually go up on this news, with the notion that Capmark's failure means more fiatsco-flinging will the forthcoming, and even lower interest rates are dead ahead?

Thereby guaranteeing that Wall Street's Animal Spirits will remain elevated??

Who knows?

by deadhead
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:49
#109728

perfect post robo...covered all the bases.

by Fritz
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:58
#109731

The "Short CRE" play clearly is too intuitive.

Whomever has been jamming the REITs higher has a bigger wallet than I do.

However, there can't be much short interest left to cover. Massive air pocket under the REITS.

REIT common equity mushroom cloud is only a matter of when, not if.

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:08
#109708

Choice quote about Bernanke from this month's The Atlantic ("Brave Thinkers"):

"...prevented the collapse of AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac; and somehow found time to bear the made-for-TV harangues of financially illiterate members of congress."

Strange. I didn't know that Dennis Kneale was a member of congress.. ;)

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 18:30
#109718

At somepoint the price of physical gold is going to
take off.

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 19:47
#109763

Speaking of Calpers, when are they going to investigate the kickbacks involved in its investment "program?"

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 19:48
#109764

Not necessarily. Expect $2 trillion stimulus bill in February 2010.

by Mark Beck
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 20:20
#109778

Buffet just wants to taste a little FDIC frosting. Even an old shoe tastes good with the right kind of frosting.

He was sniffing around for the tastiest bank insolvency gravy train, bided his time, and pounced.

You can hear him ask his staff, "which dog should we buy at fire sale prices?"

by Anonymous
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 20:41
#109794

The capmark creditors should claw-back the bank being sold to Leucadia. They are stealing it like barclays stole Lehmans brokerage arm. Way cheap.

by Anonymous
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 14:16
#110094

bercadia is getting the servicing, agency and mortgage banking.... no balance sheet assest of capmark finance or capmark bank. The creditors will get all of those legacy assets

by RobotTrader
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 20:59
#109795

Wonder why Grubb & Ellis was up 38%??

Must be set to make a vast fortune brokering all those foreclosed commercial buildings...

LOL....

by Rainman
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 11:16
#110016

Seems you're on to something here, Robo. Some savvy investors are digging through the CRE pile of turds and finding a rough diamond like CBE. It's similar to the Ryder pop . The newly foreclosed can't fit all their junk into a Honda hatchback.

by deadhead
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 15:19
#110123

they floated 90 million...think it was some type of convertible preferred.

by Screwball
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 21:36
#109816

Great commerical. That kid is priceless.

by Unscarred
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 23:13
#109846

That kid is saying, "You guys did WHAT to my future earnings potential?!?!"

by mikeyv1970
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 15:56
#110141

Unscarred, I suspect we shall see that kid as someone's avatar soon...

-Michael

by Unscarred
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 16:58
#110177

I can't wait to see what their user name is going to be.

by Pedro
on Sat, 10/24/2009 - 23:42
#109857

"Capmark To File For Bankruptcy, More FDIC Headaches"

Good, hopefully I can finally collect on my puts that Bernanke keeps screwing me out of

by Anonymous
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 01:18
#109887

Unlikely. Capmark will likely get bailed out by Timmy. Same with CIT.

by Anonymous
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 10:40
#109997

you are confusing Ally Bank with the Capmark Bank -- there is no relationship in terms of assets, underwriting or management. Different animals and different issues.

by deadhead
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 16:55
#110176

capmark just filed per bloomberg.

by cbxer55
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 19:09
#110258

by Gilgamesh
on Sun, 10/25/2009 - 21:13
#110337

Nothing but green shoots on a Sunday:

ECB's Moyer:  "Most of the negative effects of the economic downturn on balance sheets yet to come."

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/10/25/afx7041813.html

Bombings rock Iraq's political landscape: DEADLIEST ATTACKS IN TWO YEARS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/25/AR200910...

 

And on this great news, the Risk Carry trades are skyrocketing! (along with SPY futures, of course)

by Anonymous
on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 00:32
#110431

"Needless to say, that particular investment won't be making the next Calpers pitch book."
Not sure why not? CalPERS seems willing to buy any old type of crap.

by Anonymous
on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 09:38
#110549

Many of my friends are teachers in Ca. who will retire in a few years. They talk longingly about their lush $100,000 per year retirment packages with lifelong no copay health care benefits throught CALSTRS. They praise their union for providing such a wonderful package and wonder why this can't be provided for all Americans throught a Government run health care system. Complete disconnect.

by mopgcw
on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 13:01
#110718

Ally Bank is NOT Capmark Bank -- it is misleading to tie them together; this does not mean Capmark Bank does not have issues nor does it mean Ally Bank does not have issues.  But one should try to be at least a little accurate and coherent.

by Anonymous
on Mon, 10/26/2009 - 14:51
#110822

Teachers pensions? I know someone in midwest retiring next year. She is expecting to receive 9,700$'s per month. She was a curriculum "planner". And , yes, she had summers off.

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