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Casualty Reported As Protesters Storm Israel Embassy In Cairo; Video Of Palestinians , Syrians Entering Israel-Controlled Golan Heights

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As the Nakba protests continue late in the night across the Middle East, things in Egypt have taken a turn for the worse after Reuters reports that Egyptian police have fired teargas to force back pro-Palestinian demonstrators who had broken through a barricade in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo, according to witnesses. Additionally, according to the twitter stream, at least one person has been killed during the protest after being shot in the head. Those who wish to follow the latest on the ground updates from Egypt and Israel may do so by searching the #May 15 hash tag. Judging by the early drop in the EURUSD, the sentiment is definitely risk averse.

Additionally below we present a video of Syrians and Palestinians entering the Israel Controlled Golan heights earlier today.

More from Electronic Intifada:

A dramatic video published by the website baladee.net  shows the moment when hundreds of Palestinian refugees and Syrians break through the border fence from Syria into the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights (part of Syria occupied by Israel in 1967 and illegally annexed in 1981).

The video, which appears to be taken from the Israeli-occupied side shows a group of hundreds or perhaps thousands of marchers carrying Palestinian flags heading toward the boundary fence. Spectators on the Israeli-occupied side – apparently worried about the safety of the marchers – call on them to go back because of the danger of land mines.

However, undeterred, the marchers continue, and break through the border fence as people on both sides call for the liberation of Palestine. As the marchers break through there are scenes of joy, high emotion and embraces with those on the Israeli-occupied side. One man is heard to say, “This is how liberation is.”

And for some of the more dramatic pictures from today's Nakba violence we turn to the Guardian.

A hand reaches out to an injured man, one of a
several wounded when the Israeli army opened fire at thousands of
protesters crossing from Syria into the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights,
close to the Druze town of Majdal Shams

Palestinians run for cover as Israeli soldiers
fire teargas canisters during clashes with stone throwers at the Israeli
manned Qalandiya checkpoint, between Jerusalem and the West Bank city
of Ramallah

A Palestinian youth is detained by
Israeli border police during clashes in the Shufat refugee camp, on the
outskirts of Jerusalem

Israeli soldiers stand at the border fence between
Israel and Syria as demonstrators approach the village of Majdal Shams
in the Golan Heights

Protesters climb the border fence between Syria and Israel during a demonstration marking Nakba day, near Majdal Shams

A masked Palestinian youth sits on top of
Israel's controversial separation barrier during clashes with Israeli
troops in the West Bank village of Anata

The body of a Syrian protester is carried near the
border fence between Syria and Israel, close to the northern Druze
village of Majdal Shams, in the Golan Heights



 

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Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:18 | 1277238 anynonmous
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Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:31 | 1277591 Hephasteus
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That's some grade A bullshit there. Much better than usually produced.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:20 | 1277698 Spirit Of Truth
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The bullshit is what you've been misled to believe lock, stock and barrel over the last couple of decades.  Do you really think the Russians and Chinese were that inferior and stupid?  Well guess who has the disproportionately large strategic nuclear arsenal and controls the means of production now?  Guess who managed to put their own into the top command position of their intended target?  Believe what you want to believe, the 'Old Enemy' knows they can count on Westerners for that.  In the meantime, the Jews are facing their final holocaust and America's days as global hegemon are seriously numbered.  Enjoy the last hurrah of this Noah's time party while it lasts...

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 00:20 | 1277822 JR
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Seems like the AIPAC celebration of Israel’s exceptionalism next weekend in Washington, DC should be held in Israel.  Why are we gathering throughout the U.S. to celebrate Israel?  Why will all our politicians be standing in line before this powerful Israeli lobby waiting for handouts from money provided by the U.S. taxpayer?

And, to not pass by and kiss the hems of their garments, is to inflict a thousand cuts delivered from neo-con columnists, Harvard educators, and an assortment of Dershowitzs and Abe Foxmans scattered throughout the landscape.

As they say, Washington, DC has become Israeli-occupied territory.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 02:05 | 1278290 Bringin It
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Why will all our politicians be standing in line before this powerful Israeli lobby waiting for handouts from money provided by the U.S. taxpayer?

Disturbing question JR with an equally disturbing answer.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:35 | 1277725 Ahmeexnal
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The bankrupt european colonialist powers need more wars to kick the can down the street for a few months more.  European intel has been providing information to Syria, Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran as well as funding, training and arming them to the teeth.

But there are a lot of players on both sides of the Israeli-Arab "conflict" that know the colonialists are the ones instigating the hatred. 

Europe is about to have the shotgun explode in it's face.

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:13 | 1277834 JR
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That’s drivel, of course.  The revenge, hatred and under currents for war emanate from Israel and from Israel’s Amen corner, the Likud-arm of the U.S. government.

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 02:26 | 1282141 FlyPaper
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How about another scenario:   While the "Arab" spring has been engaged, the normal anti-Israeli focus has waned.  Well, can't have that, especially if Syria is having trouble with its population.  So what does a clever Syrian dictator do?  Send a bunch of loyalists across the border to Israel to try and "change the dialog."   And Egypt: let's kill some more Christians, then open the border between Gaza and Egypt (by fiat if not outright); and start the shelling again.  That way the world won't notice the military is installing another crony dictator in Egypt.   

Kinda the way Obama lets bad news leak on weekends, and crowing about wonderful made up things when bad news hits the press.  

Don't need any "european colonialist powers" and a grand conspiracy here.  Just run-of-the-mill distraction of the masses. 

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:38 | 1277735 Ying-Yang
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Great photography.. sad situation.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:09 | 1277246 WaterWings
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Take the power back.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:30 | 1277711 Lord Welligton
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I think that they just might be doing that.

If they can suffer 10,000 deaths they will have succeeded.

Here's the thing.

10,000 unarmed Arabs must die.

Then Israel makes peace.

Better than 10,000,000 Arabs dying in outright war.

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 23:07 | 1277979 WaterWings
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And we must end the annual $3,000,000,000 Israel gets for "aid".

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:00 | 1278214 JW n FL
Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:06 | 1278219 JW n FL
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it is expensive hunting down and killing children with rock and sticks.. think of the nvg costs alone.. never mind the tech that Israel steals from us.. like uranium.

 

great friends! trust them with.. something.. what was it? the Money! Banks! Washington DC..

 

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Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:06 | 1278223 JW n FL
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Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:09 | 1277250 unky
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I was in Israel a couple of times. I stood at an Israeli military base on the Golan heights near the border. The border to Syria at the Golan heights is all full with mines. How did they manage to cross the border so easily?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:26 | 1277293 lolmao500
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Those are tank mines, not anti-personnel mines.

And there's reports Syria tanks have entered lebanon.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:34 | 1277303 unky
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I dont think so, the mine fields were for people. The place i saw had very steep mountains and you would not have been able to get up there with a tank from Syria anyway. Plus they had Czech hedgehog to stop tanks.

When watching the video did u notice they all go in one line until they arrive at the border?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:37 | 1277317 Max Hunter
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So was your original question rhetorical or were you just trying to see if the rest of us are as observant as yourself??

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:40 | 1277325 cossack55
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Might be all command controlled.  Dumb mines are too indescriminate.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:18 | 1277550 Muir
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Yes, because Israel is highly discriminate in the use of it's weapons.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:26 | 1277577 mick_richfield
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you would not have been able to get up there with a tank from Syria anyway

 

The mines are for tanks.  One of the great tank battles of history was fought in the Golan Heights in October of 1973, and Israel came very, very close to getting its ass kicked permanently.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:47 | 1277628 bankruptcylawyer
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this is 100% correct. the golan is mountainous land separting fertile areas of israel to the south and the damascus valley to the north/east. you can only get tanks up the golan from a few specific paths. there are mines meant to deter people. but mostly, the golan is secured by cameras and patrols that respond to constant surveillance. 

it is rather quiet on the border and you can go fairly close to the 'fence' without actually approaching the fence. the land around is beautiful . 

israel could easily attack damascus from the golan, but it never has and never will need to i hope.

i've been to the golan many times. there is a reason israel annexed the golan, it is because syrian tanks tried rolling down on israel from the heights in order to roll towards tel aviv and bring an end to the very existance of the nation. 

 

if syrian owned the golan now, syria would have it lined with anti-tank and and anti-air missiles and be using it to launch missiles at all the israeli farmers in the valleys below, attacking israel's food supply. 

the golan is israeli land now (not just 'controlled' but possessed)  and until the destruction of israel , it will stay that way.

bitchezzzzz 

assad is going down, the brotherhood is coming up and war is coming. nothing you can do but run, hide, fight, or in the case of tyler, look the other way and pretend this is all about oil when it is about the very right to exist. 

 

 

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 05:10 | 1278405 gratefultraveller
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Actually Isreal "took" the Golan heights because Israel's biggest source of sweet water is there.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 09:19 | 1278764 buzzard
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Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner. Tell us what he has won.

 

One week all expenses paid to hotel of your choice in Gaza. Enjoy your stay.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:38 | 1277320 dark pools of soros
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Hope you can believe in

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:45 | 1277338 cossack55
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Change you hope you can live on.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:54 | 1277366 High Plains Drifter
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I think all of this is very suspicious. I am not sure what is going on here, but i think the whole situation is controlled somehow and someone is angling for certain results, not sure what? i really don't think any of this is just spontaneous. one thing is for sure. it makes it appear like poor little israel is under attack from those mean old moooslims from all sides and is in dire straights........yeh sure.......

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:15 | 1277406 goldsaver
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So, based on your insinuation (and apologies if I am reading incorrectly between the lines) you are more willing to believe that Israel paid and organized Syrian and Egyptian men to attack their border in order to have photos appear all over Western media decrying the "brutality" of the IMF, than to believe that Iran, thru Hamas, did so.... hmm, somehow the logic escapes me.

Why is it so hard to believe that Iran would organize and finance an attack on the borders of Israel by cannon fodder in order to get the photos and the "world opinion" stocked against Israel? Do you hate so much that you must now ignore the logical?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:35 | 1277450 High Plains Drifter
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well who can say what is really going on?  but the point is, that israel will play this up for their benefit, no matter how it goes, you watch and see. if you notice who has guns and who has the sling shots and rocks?  i promise you, if they did not have the internet and youtube, the machine gun barrels would be red hot by the end of the day and many arab men would be laying dead on those hills. this i know and this i promise you. it is not out of any worry about killing that they hold off on their shooting. they know full well they are being filmed........and this causes them to hesitate. i mean after all, it is a war for the mind right now, isn't it?

 

oh by the way, iran is controlled opposition. they are playing their part. all of this bullshit is controlled and sure things may not go according to play sometimes, but believe me, the hidden hand is at work here, i just feel it........

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:50 | 1278277 RichardP
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I think Israel should respond by sending columns of Israelis across Iran's border and filming the whole thing.  It would be interesting to see Iran's response captured on video.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:41 | 1277468 downwiththebanks
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Aside from a deep and abiding desire to kill Iranians, what evidence do you have that Iran was behind any of this?

Do you seriously believe that the stolen land being re-occupied by refugees isn't reason enough?  That the jailbreaks have occurred in Gaza, the Heights, and Shebba Farms can HARDLY be a surprise.  

That said, the tide has turned - Apartheid Israel's army without soldiers cannot kill civilians with enough efficiency.  

Looking to blame it on Iran ignores the resentment created by 63 years of Ethnic Cleansing.  Which is, of course, the point.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:12 | 1277546 zen0
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ethnic cleansing? No Arabs in the Knesset? How did they miss them? Are they disguised as Jews?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1277565 BigJim
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The zionists allowed a few token Arabs to stay so that trolls like you could claim Israel is an inclusive 'democracy'

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 02:15 | 1278297 Bringin It
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++ for clarity.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:48 | 1277629 downwiththebanks
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Here's a good example of what it means to be an Arab in the pro-Apartheid Knesset:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUxZnHb2ig

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:56 | 1277797 Lord Welligton
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Don't you just love Parliamentary Democracy.

By the by.

Is Israel a Republic?

Tue, 05/17/2011 - 02:35 | 1282146 FlyPaper
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Is America a Republic?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:58 | 1277523 Keri at Bankste...
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You might want to do a little research into the origins and Hamas, and exactly who started it and funded it, before you bring "logic" into anything having to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

And also, what's with your statement, "Do you hate so much that you must now ignore the logical?"

Gimme a break, what a strawman.  What did that guy say that indicates he's "hateful"?  He's skeptical---and I am, too.  Do a little more research about Isreal (like, oh, I don't know...maybe the USS Liberty attack?) and you might be as skeptical as I am.  What's wrong with being skeptical when you know governments are constantly lying, including the Israeli government?

Why it is only "hate" to be suspicious of, specifically, the Isreali government?  You are obviously, by your own "logic," "hateful" of the Iranian government based on your comments, because you're already pinning this on them; but you won't call that "hate," will you?  No, because being skeptical is not "hate"--it is being skeptical.  Any why, pray tell, is it more "logical" to believe that Iran would stage this than to believe that Israel would stage it?  There is logic to support either conclusion; that's why you don't use just "logic" alone, but evidence as well.  Show the evidence than Iran did this, and you might have some support for your claims.  We don't have the evidence of anything right now.

I get sick of this attitude that questioning the motives and actions of the untouchable, can-do-no-wrong state of Israel is, and can only be, "hate."  Israel is just another corrupt, oppressive government engaged in widespread illegal and immoral violations of human rights; they don't get a pass from me.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:31 | 1277589 Michael
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I have evidence Israel killed 34 American sailors and wounded 172 of our servicemen aboard the USS Liberty without any repercussions.

The Loss Of Liberty (USS Liberty Cover-Up)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7384200507117357203#

Dead In The Water - The Sinking of the USS Liberty

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311#

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:45 | 1277920 Ponzi Unit
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Right you are, Keri. Hamas was started up in 1988 by Shine Bet, Israeli internal security org equivalent to our FBI, as a counterweight to the PLO. Unintended consequences abound...

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:43 | 1277924 Ponzi Unit
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Right you are, Keri. Hamas was started up in 1988 by Shine Bet, Israeli internal security org equivalent to our FBI, as a counterweight to the PLO. Unintended consequences abound...

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:44 | 1277932 Ponzi Unit
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Ouch. Make that Shin Bet. typo...

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:46 | 1277485 MakeMineADouble
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And not just that...

that just did not look like 100's of people to me

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:36 | 1277595 MakeMineADouble
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take it back.  looked at it again.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:20 | 1277856 JR
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The border flare-ups may have an origin with the Mossad because it helps Israel demonstrate that her enemies are war-like and not fit as a negotiating partner for peace.

Netanyahu needs the Gaza war to show that West Bank Palestinians should not be talking to those Hamas “terrorists.”  It fits exactly with AIPAC’s new talking points to prevent peace at all costs with Palestine: Israel can’t talk peace now because the West Bank and Gaza have been talking to each other about a unified state and to demonize that effort means: ‘There’s no qualified party to talk peace with.’”

This, from M. L. Rosenberg in “Time Is Not Israel’s Partner in Crime”:

“An Israeli government that actually wants peace with the Palestinians would encourage Abbas' efforts toward Palestinian unity, without which there will never be peace. Israel need not endorse Abbas' efforts; it should simply wait and see what comes out of Fatah-Hamas talks.

“Opponents of peace (actually, opponents of Israel returning any territory) point to Hamas as the big obstacle. And it is, so long as it either engages in violence or tolerates it. But the fact is that far more Gazans die at the hands of Israel than the other way around.

“Reports from Gaza indicate that Hamas now fears that the cycle of violence will get out of control, leading to another Israeli invasion and the horrific loss of Palestinian lives (in 2008-9, the Israeli invasion led to 1,400 Palestinian dead - mostly civilians - compared to fewer than a dozen Israeli soldiers).”

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/03/201133171011117285.html

So this is the path of Likud, the path of AIPAC and the path of the U.S. Congress.  If this is the path of the American people, we will have followed Netanyahu into Hell.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 02:14 | 1278298 Bringin It
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AIPAC is unAmerican.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:07 | 1277251 Arch Duke Ferdinand
Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:43 | 1277331 cossack55
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Tyler may want to take a peek at the article. Spot on.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:42 | 1277480 Miss Expectations
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Thank you Arch Duke.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:18 | 1277556 trav7777
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Empire is a necessary artifact of the central banking scheme.  Any nation so infected has no choice against the math of the compound interest function.  It HAS to feed.

Who is going to renounce empire when it has allowed us to live so well?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:30 | 1277586 mick_richfield
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I renounce it.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:16 | 1277686 hedgeless_horseman
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Paraphrased from memory, I recall, "There is more money to be made from the destruction of a nation that the creation of one." 

-Rhett Butler

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 00:44 | 1278194 cossack55
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I second the motion

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 00:12 | 1278128 Terminus C
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That dude needs to learn what a paragraph is.  He's a professor?

That and his premise is false:

He thinks that America has become an empire late in life but I do recall it started out as 13 states along the Atlantic coast and now spreads across a continent (just the country itself).

Wars with "Indians", with the British (for control of the continent), the Mexicans (for the western States) and the Indians again for the mid west.  All of this was prior to the imperial wars of WWI and WWII.

The list is long and an empire dressed as a republic America has always been.  Though now the clothing is tattered and falling off.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:08 | 1277252 TexDenim
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So far neither Isrrael nor Al Qaeda have played any role whatsoever in the Arab Spring. That was too good to be true, and now things may get worse across North Africa.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:43 | 1277333 Al Gorerhythm
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Thanks Tex, you've made my day. Nice avatar.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:18 | 1277255 Turd Ferguson
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"This business will get out of hand and we'll be lucky to survive it"

--Admiral Painter

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:00 | 1277657 Abitdodgie
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+1

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:35 | 1277736 Alienated Serf
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Actually it is- "This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

 

Best movie ever

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:11 | 1277264 Hannibal
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Shit is hitting the (Isreali) fan yet?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:17 | 1277281 MacGruber
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Can't wait to hear Hillary's "freedom and liberty" backpedal on this one.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:21 | 1277283 Hugh G Rection
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Make bullets more expensive.... that's the only way to stop the jews from shooting people

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:37 | 1277326 JW n FL
Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:21 | 1277557 hognutz
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Free bullets for all!

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:20 | 1277289 bob_dabolina
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Yahtzee!!!!

Let there be war. 

War is a natural fixture in the chandelier of the human condition. 

Let 'em fight it out.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:36 | 1277305 I only kill chi...
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Yes the eternal fight continues, has it ever stopped. and Hughg you need more than a bullet to shoot someone, it's called a called a cartridge.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:36 | 1277313 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Eternal fight....you must think that the world was created five thousand years ago.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:42 | 1277330 I only kill chi...
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I meant since humanity came on the scene, I have no fuckin idea when the world was created.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:12 | 1277506 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The present can change the past, and obviously the future.  Not trying to one up Sabbath, never would.

Common- Time Travelin'(A Tribute To Fela):


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Mon, 05/16/2011 - 02:23 | 1278306 BlackholeDivestment
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My friend, the Truth does not ''change'', every knee shall bow, the Truth is not a choice. The revelation upon the last generation is defined clearly. Three key points of order define the time, Israel restored as a nation and Jerusalem restored http://bible.cc/daniel/9-25.htm to Israel. Now you can't dispute the prophetic fulfillment of those two being upon this generation. The third point is the revelation of Christ preached http://bible.cc/matthew/24-14.htm throughout the world, combined with those two points of order. It's always time, with the Truth, in agreement with the image of the host, be it the Groom or the Bride to be in agreement. Time is quickening right on schedule. Get ready, the event ( sure looks like a WMD event to me, combined with http://bible.cc/luke/21-11.htm the increase of disasters) for the prophetic false peace is on our horizon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSjlEjpyA9g&feature=related

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:50 | 1277346 PY-129-20
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"Alles Leben ist Krieg." - Wumpscut

"Alle sieben Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat. Stalingrad. Massengrab." - Stimme aus Moskau.

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Be careful what you wish for, Bob.

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Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:35 | 1277309 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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War is not natural, peace is.  War has been conditioned into the human pshche for the last few thousand years.  Neighboring tribes intermarried because they knew that the gene pool worked better this way.  Big wars happened between American tribes (before the man came) every few generations.  Pagans lived peacfully in Gaul before Rome.

Yes there were fights, but most were settled mano y mano.  Did a man from another tribe steal your horse?  Fight him or quite whining about it!  We need not jepordize our humanity because you went and got your horse stolen.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:35 | 1277321 cossack55
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But then war became good for business.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:26 | 1277429 Holodomor2012
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It's good for the Jew, that's for sure.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:41 | 1277478 downwiththebanks
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It's damn good for Capitalism as a whole.  Military contractors aren't all Jewish, and they're making bank whenever Apartheid Israel cashes its welfare checks.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:37 | 1277324 I only kill chi...
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Population density was a lot lower back then. Cram to many rats together even with enough food and watch what happens.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:41 | 1277327 Max Hunter
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Correct.

I can't imagine a soldier killing another and saying "boy, this feels so natural"..  Might be a few sick pups that enjoy it but, no, it's not natural..

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:13 | 1277404 bob_dabolina
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Uh? huh? 

Pretty sure Muslims orgasm when they kill a non-muslim. 

And why do you think men join the Marines instead of the Navy? Must be the uniform right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Nf1MK7lts

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:18 | 1277413 jomama
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oh, ok, didn't realize you were a vet.  when/where did you serve?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:34 | 1277456 bob_dabolina
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If you can tell me why it matters to you personally, I'll tell you.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:40 | 1277475 jomama
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give me a fucking break.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:42 | 1277479 downwiththebanks
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Perhaps you've not been paying attention to the collective orgasm that has taken place throughout Christendom over the last fornight.

And that was for killing a Muslim AVATAR!  

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:45 | 1278269 dogbreath
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isn't the office of the president under the department of the navy.  gentlemen

 

the "dogs of war" ,   low intelligence killers

 

the air force,  never sees the eyes of their enemy

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:12 | 1277397 bob_dabolina
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What the fuck? No seriously...what the fuck are you talking about? 

There has been war since humans grew brains and opposable thumbs. 

The gene pool isn't better off with interracial mingling either. I have no idea where you came up with that hypothesis.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:13 | 1277408 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Before large scale cities people lived with, at the most, a hundred people.  So if you and yours decided to go warring, it was realistic that your whole fam and bloodline would be wiped out.  War was always the last resort.  Always.  War is propaganda, and nothing else.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:31 | 1277440 bob_dabolina
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No....

Warring started when one neanderthal was hungry and saw another neanderthal with food and clubbed him to death to take his sustinance. 

War is a natural part of the human condition. There has been more war in the history of human civilization than there has been peace.....by FAR

Ever wonder why that is? 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:59 | 1277515 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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War is a collective movement.  Obviously people have moments of 'fight' (as compared to flight), but war is a collective matter.  War is a conditioned experience due to peer pressure.  War is one Nation versus another, and war, being suicidal, was always the last choice for a given society, until fear mongering and paid propaganda became the norm.  This began after 'gatherer and hunter' society....AFTER.

There was peace before war, when society functioned proper.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:10 | 1277544 bob_dabolina
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Oh really?

Which society functioned, and persisted throughout, without war?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:19 | 1277554 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The Native Americans.  The Native Africans.  The Native Southern Americans.  The Native Australians.  The Native Hawaiians.  The Native Japanese.  The Native Chinese.  The Tribes that were pre-Babylon.  The Pics.  The Celts.  The Gauls....

Before the City/State, gatherer/hunter societies acted peacefully and wars occurred every few generations, between the tribes.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:28 | 1277569 bob_dabolina
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 

Before I shame you....are you sure none of the above engaged in war?

...think it through before you answer.

(they all have been engaged in war)

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:30 | 1277585 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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none of the above engaged in war?

Never wrote that.  Wrote it happened only every few generations, because war is suicidal, and people knew it, before the city/state was able to fund propaganda.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:01 | 1277658 bob_dabolina
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You can't find a time in history where humans weren't at war. 

That's because war is a part of us. 

War is natural. 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:07 | 1277669 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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War happened few and far between before the city/state.  It happened every few generations.  War was not natural then, because people lived in small communities.  When you live with only a hundred other people, it is hard to go to war and not have everyone die.  War was suicidal, and it did not happen often, at most, every few generations.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:30 | 1277719 bob_dabolina
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Like I said....

Can't find a period in history where we weren't at war. 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:41 | 1277910 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Before the City, men did not have wars but for every few generations.  Could you imagine a century now where there was no war....Imagine....

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:46 | 1277918 bob_dabolina
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Well, welcome to the city where there is war....always has been war, and always will be war.

Welcome to the real world!

Greetings and salutations! 

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:21 | 1278242 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There was not war before the City, and there will not be war after we burn the City down.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:44 | 1277917 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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....

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:43 | 1277473 Rodent Freikorps
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Does "Gather the clans" ring a bell?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:54 | 1277486 bob_dabolina
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Oh, I see. 

You're making me out to be raycess. 

Anything better? At least throw a Hitler reference in the punch if you're gona' take a stab like that at me, afterall I am German through my heritage.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:02 | 1277518 Rodent Freikorps
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I was replying to Hendrix.

Mongols, vikings, vandals etc. didn't have large cities.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:02 | 1277533 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The Vikings were raiders and paid privateers by the King Harold in the same respect that England created pirates.  Genghis Khan held Beijing and other large cities.  The Visigoths were post Roman and were European and Europe was developed into City/States.  All of these armies were post 'gatherer/hunter' society, and all of these armies were formed in cities.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:09 | 1277543 Rodent Freikorps
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Genghis did not raise his army in Beijing. The Norse were hardly a unified group. Vandals sacked Rome. Big cities attract war. They do not necessarily start them.

Big weak cities pull conquerors like iron filings to a magnet.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:53 | 1277564 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I agree that cities attract privateers, but the armies of your examples did unify certain City/States against other City/States. 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:12 | 1277681 Max Hunter
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Well Mr. Lennon, I agree with you and the others cannot convince me that war is in our nature by simply providing examples of it.

Killing for survival may be part of our instinct but killing for policy is not.. War is a racket.. War is a lie..

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 00:53 | 1278200 cossack55
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War is profit....war is GDP growth....war is government.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 01:37 | 1278255 palmereldritch
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War is neo-tribalistic exploitation of the savages.  Easy work for a socio-pathic elite that ensures their subjects are filled with religion, ignorance, fear and hate.

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 12:00 | 1343447 bankruptcylawyer
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you're whole idea about man's state of nature is nonsense. you think that if man was rarely at war before he was smart enough to to have cities, than 'man' is naturally not a warring behavioral creature.

cities are a basic result of agriculture and increasing birth rates and productivity , where people aggregate in single spots instead of being bedoin travelers. this basic result is fully natural. 'men' aggregate in villages, towns and cities when there is a stable source of food and productivity to harvest. perfectly 'natural'. 

youre problem is you are equating primitive man with 'natural' in an attempt to identify war as something bad or unacceptable. no , what you are really saying is that primitive man could no engage in prolonged war because he was too busy looking for food most of the time and dealing with the world with his primitive toolkit and extremely limited resources. 

 

yes, man lived this way for hundreds of thousands of years before he got smart enough to grow crops and develop techniques for building more effective tools with which to till land, collect water, store food and keep it from rotting/being eaten by rodents. 

all of these things are progress, they are why you have a computer. they are not 'un-natural'. they are perfectly acceptable if you accept man's tendency to better his lot. war is an unfortunate result of man's attempt to better his lot by aggregating and organizing ourselves ( much as we see ants and other social instincts ). 

 

what you are applauding and romanticizing is the difficult and hard life of primitive man who was constantly struggling with feeding himself and the dangers of nature ( like snakes, iinsects, lions etc....). his 'war' was struggle to survive in nature. go ahead an romanticize that if you like, but don't do it because modern 'war' is unnatural. that's a simply lying to yourself. 

 

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:28 | 1277301 Atomizer
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I just bought a bennie and the propeller shaft broke.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:34 | 1277316 cossack55
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It seems Mike from California went to public schools.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:44 | 1277342 dark pools of soros
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when signs are written in English in lands that don't primarily use it, then it is most likely created by someone local to hit the western press.  So that local that did it may have some weak English but knows propaganda

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:49 | 1277353 QQQBall
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+1 :)

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:49 | 1277354 QQQBall
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+1 :)

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:38 | 1277328 Bindar Dundat
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  The Muslim Brotherhood coupled with Islamic Extremists have a common goal-- kill all the jews.  Israel is alone right now and even the U.S. Government is not on their side.  I can not help but think this will end badly--for all of us -- and we will care less what the feakin" silver spot price is!   

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:40 | 1277332 Max Hunter
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 Israel is alone right now

Boo fucking Hoo.. If only it were true

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:45 | 1277345 Al Gorerhythm
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 and we will care less what the feakin" silver spot price is!   

Oh, you will.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:53 | 1277359 john39
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anyone else sick to death of zionists using the U.S. military to oppress the entire middle east? common muslims have much more in common with the common american than the isrealis, both screwed for generations by the zionism money system. time for some justice.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:53 | 1277362 razorthin
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Jesus didn't knock over the tables of the money-changers for the halibut

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:39 | 1277610 Id fight Gandhi
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And look what they did to him for it. Sold him out and nailed him to a cross.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:47 | 1277626 mick_richfield
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Maybe not, but do you know what that little outburst did for his credit rating?  His mortgage?

Nothing good:

"The foxes have holes, and the birds of the sky have nests, but the son of man has nowhere to lay his head."

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:16 | 1277409 jomama
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and even the U.S. Government is not on their side

since when is billions of dollars of 'foriegn aid' not on their side??!!! http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:25 | 1277436 Holodomor2012
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Hasbara is out in force today.  I've never seen them this stirred up.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:39 | 1277466 High Plains Drifter
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the muslim brotherhood was started by british intelligence. british intelligence is run by the british government under the auspices of the rothschild banking cartel. having said that, then one can extrapolate that it also is mossad and cia as well. muslim brotherhood members are freemasons.......starting to smell the coffee here yet?  what did lenin say one time on such matters. in order to control the opposition, one must lead it????

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:28 | 1277582 BigJim
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Oh no! Poor little Israel!

Remind me how many nukes they have? And 4th generation fighter jets? And cluster munitions? And drones? And.... you get the point.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:43 | 1277923 zerozulu
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This is what happens with these terror tools when dollar dries up.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-PuSGjFHvY/SVFfRUrhh9I/AAAAAAAAC9A/nj8VodnoJD...

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:45 | 1277605 Keri at Bankste...
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Is this what you mean by "alone"?

Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. From 1976-2004, Israel was the largest annual recipient of U.S. foreign assistance, having since been supplanted by Iraq. Since 1985, the United States has provided nearly $3 billion in grants annually to Israel.
Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance. In the past, Israel also had received significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel’s receiving benefits not available to other countries. For example, Israel can use some U.S. military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, all U.S. foreign assistance earmarked for Israel is delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year. Most other recipients normally receive aid in installments. Congress also appropriates funds for joint U.S.-Israeli missile defense programs.
In August 2007, the Bush Administration announced that it would increase U.S.
military assistance to Israel by $6 billion over the next decade. The agreement calls for incremental annual increases in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) to Israel, reaching $3 billion a year by FY2011.

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/134987.pdf

Or, by "alone", did you mean this?

The secret nature of the Israeli nuclear program has hidden the increasing problems of the aging Dimona reactor and adverse worker health effects. Information is only now public as former workers sue the government. This issue is now linked to continued tritium production for the boosted anti-tank and anti-missile nuclear warheads that Israeli continues to need. Israel is attempting to obtain a new, more efficient, tritium production technology developed in India.

One other purpose of Israeli nuclear weapons, not often stated, but obvious, is their “use” on the United States. America does not want Israel's nuclear profile raised.144 They have been used in the past to ensure America does not desert Israel under increased Arab, or oil embargo, pressure and have forced the United States to support Israeli diplomatically against the Soviet Union. Israel used their existence to guarantee a continuing supply of American conventional weapons, a policy likely to continue.

Col Dr Warner Farr, USAF Counterproliferation Center.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm

If so, being "alone" is really not so bad.                         

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:39 | 1277329 Atomizer
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A hand reaches out to an injured man, one of a several wounded when the Israeli army opened fire at thousands of protesters crossing from Syria into the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights, close to the Druze town of Majdal Shams

That's not a very convincing. The blood looks awfully Friday the 13th to me.

 

 

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:15 | 1277545 Bicycle Repairman
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It looked very real to me.  When soldiers open fire, some bleeding is to be expected.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:44 | 1277335 jkruffin
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Let's see if Isreal now is all talk, or do they really have the balls. I say they are chicken shit, and will do nothing but talk. If you want to show these clowns you mean business, you gotta put it on the line, otherwise they will keep messing with you.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:33 | 1277588 BigJim
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Yeah, that's the big problem with the Middle East, all the zionists did was talk about setting up their ethnically-cleansed, apartheid state.

If only they had got off their asses and acted!

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:42 | 1277337 razorthin
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Just get the fuck out of the West Bank.  Problem solved.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:21 | 1277417 goldsaver
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So your hypothesis is that if Israel returns the West Bank of the Jordan river (which the won in battle) the "palestinians" would stop revolting? Funny how it did not work when they gave up the Gaza Strip....

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:34 | 1277596 BigJim
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Hmm, I'm guessing that by stating the West Bank was 'won in battle' you're implying Israel have a right to keep it and colonise it.

So you wouldn't want your house back if someone came along and 'won it in battle'?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:59 | 1277660 Gashole
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You can have the house back...as long as you never use it again to shoot at mine.  

Won't make that deal...turn down the deal again...and again...too bad....Now it's my house.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:03 | 1277663 Canucklehead
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Are you really that stupid?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:08 | 1277672 Gashole
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Nope. I have two ivy league degrees.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:30 | 1277710 Lower Class Elite
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Oh, you poor thing.  You really are that stupid then.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 23:05 | 1277972 Hephasteus
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Oh man best laugh I had all day.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 05:41 | 1278412 Gashole
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Living well is the best revenge.  At the expense of people like you just sweetens it.

Mon, 05/16/2011 - 00:58 | 1278208 cossack55
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Sort of like, well, the amerikan Indians, the Mexicans, the Hawaiians, the Phillipines.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:29 | 1277444 zen0
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The West Bank? It was Judea-Samaria for 3000 years or so, and all of a sudden became  the West Bank for a few decades.

 

You know why it had the name Judea in it, right?

 

There was a boardgame in 1936 called Juden Raus:

 

"A sort of amalgam of Monopoly and Halma, where the objective was to collect as many Jews as you could, and get them off the board. The pieces were little pawns wearing pointed medieval Jewish hats; the players moved them by rolling dice; the child winning was the one whose Jews scurried out, 'off to Palestine!' through the gates of a walled city.

"

 

So one set of anti-Jews wants them shipped to Palestine, the others want them out of Palestine.

 

Is no one's hate ever satisfied?

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 19:46 | 1277492 High Plains Drifter
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well actually theordore hertzl at the first world zionist conference in basel switzerland, in 1897, wanted to found the new nation of israel in uganda, but the rothschilds who were bankrolling the operation wanted it in palestine. so of course the big money men won the argument. then, since they knew they lacked any real reason for displacing the indigenous peoples of the region, they adopted the Bible as their "history" and their "reason" for doing this. This attracted many useful Christian right wing zionist who fell right in like and took the bait......and at the same time the trotskyites which are now called neocons, suddenly became "conservatives" ......

 

you may ask yourself, why would they want to go to uganda of all places? well uganda had a lot of good arable land and besides it was (at that time)almost empty of any population, since after 200 years of jewish slaving operation in africa, most of the indigenous blacks were either dead or gone.

and as paul harvey , that wonderful late and great, 33 degree freemason of blessed memory used to say, that is the rest of the story...........

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:23 | 1277563 Bicycle Repairman
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Then there is this Jewish homeland:

"In 1934 the Soviet Government established the Jewish Autonomous Region, popularly known as Birobidzhan, in a sparsely populated area some five thousand miles east of Moscow. Designated as the national homeland of Soviet Jewry, Birobidzhan was part of the Kremlin's effort to create an alternative to Palestine"

http://www.swarthmore.edu/Home/News/biro/

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 21:41 | 1277745 palmereldritch
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Curiously, as Palestine was also being colonized at this time, this settlement is consistent with what some people see as the Illuminati's obsession with dualism and twins.

http://www.henrymakow.com/documentary_highlights_nazi_so.html

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 22:31 | 1277885 zen0
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The Jews began returning in 1881. There were barely any indigenous peoples, as Mark Twain expounded upon in his travelogue there. Of the people who were there,  a large amount were Jews.

 

The anti-Jewish forces always pick trunckated histories to support their positions. History is a panorama, not a snapshot.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 20:42 | 1277613 BigJim
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Oooh, clever - one set of 'anti-jews' wants the Jews to go to Palestine, and another set of 'anti-jews' doesn't want the Jews to go to Palestine. Ergo, the zionists will be wrong no matter what they do! So... they might as well... go to Palestine and do enough ethnic cleansing to secure their 'democratic' 'homeland'.

By the way - I doubt the Palestinians were particularly anti-Jewish before the zionists stated turning up in large numbers and stealing the land that they, the Palestinians, had been living on, working on, and tending, for 2000 years.

Sun, 05/15/2011 - 18:44 | 1277341 mynhair
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Sure looks like the US-Mex border.

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