Charting The Fed's Abysmal Recent Predictive Track Record

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Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:08 | 1397174 gwar5
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The Bernank famously missed the 2007-2008 downturn and banking crisis despite his predecessor, Greenspan, coming out and sounding the alarm for 9 months leading up to the collapse. Evil geniuses or just stupid?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:28 | 1397230 Rynak
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Evil geniuses or just stupid?

Umm, broadly speaking, there are two kinds of accomplishments, which i would consider "(evil) genius":

1. Managing to deceive/beat all significant opposition, in an amazingly simple yet effficient way, which others did not consider.

2. Solving something seemingly impossible, in an amazingly simple yet efficient way, which others did not consider.

Both can be rather hard to distinguish, for people not familiar with how this stuff works. The current breed of TPTB, is none of both.... they just managed to stupidify the majority so much, that they could (so far) get away even with doing a crappy job.

There is nothing "amazing" about how "they" do stuff.... it just worked so far, because people are naive and stupid, and because they hide things behind obscurity via complexity.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:06 | 1397299 gwar5
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Agree, these greaseballs ceased to amaze a long time ago. As a reminder to self, I looked up what John Law did printing notes in France 1715-20 before he got ran out of the country as the most hated man in France.

The Fed clowns are just doing exactly same thing. In three hundred years we've put a man on the moon but haven't learned to call bullshit on the fiat money-changers until the damage is done.    

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:09 | 1397301 Raincheck
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Just stupid.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:06 | 1397176 Corn1945
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It's not "predicting" when you are making shit up.


How people can have confidence in a guy who has been wrong about everything is beyond me.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:14 | 1397188 carbonmutant
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Essentially what you have is a bunch of Eurocentric academics prostituting their PhDs for a political agenda.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:19 | 1397211 buzzsaw99
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Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:23 | 1397212 Re-Discovery
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something just gapped euro downward.  maybe realistic traders.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:25 | 1397214 baby_BLYTHE
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Don't understand what makes the money printer hate on those that wish to form capital and save... Egg Head Academia must have somewhere along the line taught him that wealth is created by savings.

Why is it he wishes not for Americans to save? Does he really feel that these big banks are worth it to rob Americans of a tremendous about of wealth in the process?... especially when he admits absolutely "extraordinary measures" were undertaken just to get marginally back to level playing ground. 

I dare you Bernank, raise interest rates. Be a man. Prove your central planning operation has some BALLZ. Or else, be prepared to be America's last ever Federal Reserve chairman

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:28 | 1397237 buzzsaw99
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The Bernank can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until the middle class is dead.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:53 | 1397277 baby_BLYTHE
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spot on

Just as his predacessor who basically admitted his operations were fradulent post-FED chairmanship

Huge 'Tell', posted previously by ZH:

The worst of this crisis is still to come. Even Greenspan knows it this time!

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:44 | 1397367 spiral_eyes
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economy is aggregate demand. fed is raise aggregate demand. savings is not raise aggregate demand. savings is evil.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:20 | 1397216 element115
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These charts suck. What are we looking at? There is no legend and both plots are the same line color and style?


Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:42 | 1397244 FOC 1183
Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:37 | 1397247 Tyler Durden
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There is bolded intro and a chart title, not to mention a % index with ranges. Perhaps if you had seen what a typical fed projection looks like it would be more understandable. You can see the one presented on Zero Hedge yesterday here.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:09 | 1397294 Brian
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Sorry Tyler, I don't understand these charts either.  Is the top line the prediction and the bottom line the actual?  I guess that can't be since the charts plot into 2012, so you are just highlighting the large spread in the fed estimates?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:16 | 1397312 Tyler Durden
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Fed estimates always have a lower and upper range.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:37 | 1397348 Rynak
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Translation: Their predictions are so broad, that they cannot fail - master of the obvious. Though, they will of course publize the "best possible case" the most.

So, if you think i'm right, everything is great - and if i'm wrong, i'm not actually wrong, because it's still in the lower bound.

Did i misunderstand something?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 00:50 | 1397612 Anonymouse
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All correct, except that even with the wide band, they still failed in their predictions.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:56 | 1397388 Brian
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Ahhh, now I get it.  TYVM!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 04:37 | 1397806 dcb
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Yeah, I had trouble with the charts as well, I understand them now, but on the graph should be the actual result as well. That way we can see if in range, out of range, etc. Also I'd like to know things like the standard deviation etc.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 04:38 | 1397807 dcb
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Yeah, I had trouble with the charts as well, I understand them now, but on the graph should be the actual result as well. That way we can see if in range, out of range, etc. Also I'd like to know things like the standard deviation etc.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:22 | 1397218 Everybodys All ...
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"That being said" ... "It's transitory." The Bernank


Looks like he's getting better at it. Only in government could you be this big of a failure and get "Time man of the Year". Unbelievable.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:26 | 1397219 Misean
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Are YOU a PHckD Ebubblegnomist!!!!!??!?!1/!?!/? I think not. Only properly degreed and trained people can read such data properly. Your presentation only serves to prove this.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:26 | 1397229 flyr1710
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no wonder he doesn't have an explanation

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:34 | 1397250 T-NUTZ
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Sub-prime is well contained, BITCHEZ!!!

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:35 | 1397251 Hedge Jobs
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dont worry, The Bernank is "100% certain" that his forcasts are always wrong.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:36 | 1397255 Derpin USA
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What do you expect them to do? Tell the truth and turn it into an ever worse self-fulfilling prophecy? If the Fed were to realistically project negative GDP, what kind of psychological effects do you think that'd have on the market and the economy?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:46 | 1397260 Rynak
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In an "ideal" world where the fed and gov is seperate:

The fed should report the truth, and the gov should promptly implement policies that solve the causes.

In an "ideal" world where the fed is part of the gov:

The gov should report the truth, and promptly implement policies to fix the causes.

In an "ideal" world where there is no fed, but a gov:

The gov should have reported the truth 20 years ago, and implemented policies to fix the causes. Therefore, everything is good now.

In the current world:

The system is fucked anyways. Only thing left is to lie and pretend.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:44 | 1397266 scratch_and_sniff
Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:46 | 1397269 Bartanist
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A. the Fed and its employees are hopelessly incompetent

B. the Fed and its employees are a pathological liars

C. Both A and B above

I am thinking that with only the three choices above, the United States of America (the republic, not the corporation) is better off without the Fed and its minions, than with them.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:52 | 1397271 sangell
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I was always curious why witches were put to death most horribly. I think I know now. Crystal balls and steaming cauldrons were no better at predicting the future than a Ph.d from an Ivy League school

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:54 | 1397274 vegas
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Well, it's a documented fact that what the Fed should do is consult Shrillary. After all, this crooked bitch, er smartest woman on earth business success story is just the kind of thing turdballs at the Fed would eat up with a spoon.


It's easy: just consult the WSJ for fundamentals, trade cattle futures [or whatever], and go pick up the money. GDP forecasts, no problem! Need to know where unemployment is going: again no problemo!! Hillary Clinton knows all. C'mon Bernank, get with the program  for cryin' out loud.


How can you guys / gals [and other types] in government not use this national treasure for our benefit?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:56 | 1397279 Pure Evil
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Testing, testing, is this retro USSR microphone on?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:54 | 1397283 Cdad
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You know, that abysmal GDP chart really takes it for me, considering the $7 trillion in fiscal and monetary stimulus we blew to get here.

OK...anyone ready to suggest a replacement for Mr. Bernanke?  Anyone in know, now that he has entirely blown it?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:11 | 1397298 Rynak
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- make fed gov-owned..... now that it is monetizing at near 0%, whats the point of pretending anymore?

- append constitution, to mention that inflation is taxation of every dollar holder

- append constitution to let population by direct vote veto any gov program it chooses

- appoint whomever you want as fed chairman, and let him wince in fear

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 21:58 | 1397284 djsmps
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Obama inherited all this from Bush. It's not his fault. It takes time to fix this. You can't fix these kinds of problems in just one term. He's doing the best the best he can. But, look, at least he killed Osama bin Laden and Whitey Bulger.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:09 | 1397305 Rynak
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you need to add </sarcasm> to prevent people with a quick finger from junking sarcasm.


You were being sarcastic, right?..... right?

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:30 | 1397314 Pure Evil
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So are you implying he'll have all these problems he inherited from Bush fixed by his second term?

Great resume stuffer:

It's not my fault the country got flushed down the crapper.

I inherited the toliet from Bush.

I wasn't exactly sure what the little handle did, but Berskank said to push down, and then whoosh!

But, at least I got Bin Laden and 'Whitey'!

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 23:33 | 1397449 Sambo
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Bulger? ...his brother knew where he was. Why should Obama get credit for the don's capture?

As for Osama, I am not sure if he is dead.

Its a Wall St govt. You cannot fix a problem created by Wall St by letting the Wall St crooks to handle the affairs of the govt.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:24 | 1397326 sasebo
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Practically speaking -

Until they start teaching the Ph.D. economist at Princeton that it takes stuff to produce more stuff and that money doesn't produce stuff, we're in deep shit as long as delusional asshole Bernanke has access to a paper money printer. And paper money is not to be used as gambling chips, but as a medium of exchange to supply stuff to those who want to produce more stuff & create jobs.   

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 22:39 | 1397364 Herbert_guthrie
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Since misdirection and lies are required for the FED to smoothly operate, this is not a huge shock to me that their predictions prove untrustworthy.

Thu, 06/23/2011 - 23:13 | 1397412 trainrobbery
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That is a cool chart...I will have to look that up in Excel.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 02:11 | 1397702 DrLamer
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Explanation of antiChrist as a hexadecimal coding and as a pentium X86 processor as a king of world's interconnected
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Fri, 06/24/2011 - 01:57 | 1397711 bakken
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Lest we Americans forget, the war for independence was based on FIAT. The US Federal Gov't ran much of the civil war, with FIAT.

Both of those instances saw very shaky acceptance of the paper notes. But those currencies were issued during potentially nation ending wars. After the Civil War, the fight between silver and gold standards was simply a metaphor for class warfare between the peons (silver backers) and the plutocrats(gold standard backers).

Today, plutocrats favor FIAT. Of course, since unlike Gold, FIAT is infinitely expandable! And, plutocrats control the printing presses, so to speak. They also control institutions of armed forces. THEY WIN!

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 08:04 | 1398015 earnulf
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Just to point out that the fact that the Fed has now pegged the GDP well below CBO estimates means that total national debt to GDP will rise above 100% once our congress stops the sideshow and raises the debt limit. (Remember we are adding billions to the debt that has to be replaced once the limit is raised.) That will show up on the public debt side of the ledger. Of course the next downgrade in GDP will further push us to the debt side.

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 08:29 | 1398059 overmedicatedun...
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a lot of racial unrest not being reported, from chicago to baltimore.. mostly black on white and black on the ecomomy falls the US society is going towards citizens fighting each other this will take heat away from government ..bernak is just there to keep it a a slow boil..anyone want to project the impact of debt is on race relations here?

Fri, 06/24/2011 - 15:38 | 1399511 AldoHux_IV
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And yet they control the economy and the markets-- shocking and very perverse.

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