Chicago PMI Data Now Catering To HFT Algos, As Deutsche Borse Buys And Adds Datastream To AlphaFlash HFT Product Offering

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Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:28 | 1406461 Herbert_guthrie
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This will make it all too easy.

Lights out!
Financial System poof!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:36 | 1406469 buzzsaw99
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the suckers get a millisecond edge, the squid gets a fortnight.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:35 | 1407332 euclidean
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(someone junked this?)

+20,000, this is golden

Industrial espionage smashes another gear ....

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:40 | 1406471 GeneMarchbanks
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Frontrunning to the max! Bit- nevermind...

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:40 | 1406472 topcallingtroll
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I would like for you to show us the separate waves of buying and selling based on speed of various information flows.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:42 | 1406476 Robslob
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I am going to privatize myself and sell it on the street

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:54 | 1406519 JohnG
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There's been "hooker deflation" so be careful out there :)

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:41 | 1406483 Jambo Mambo Bill
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HFT is really a wonder...

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:43 | 1406487 swissinv
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if ZH can bring down the latency it may be indeed a source for the 3rd generation

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:54 | 1406507 baby_BLYTHE
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ZH is market mover.

Accurately predicting QE2 amongst other things.

Surprised Tyler isn't calling for QE3 when Faber, Rogers, Schiff and Ron Paul, who also got it right before, saying it is a certainty.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:28 | 1406580 Tyler Durden
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We have been pretty much on the record before Faber, Rogers, Schiff and Paul saying QE3 will come, although it will need a gating factor of a major market drop before it is initiated in the absence of fiscal stimulus.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 19:16 | 1406895 baby_BLYTHE
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Sorry for mis quoting, Tyler. I was confused due to a chart you posted earlier today in the comment section about the FED being able to rollover maturing securities in sufficient fashion to not need a QE3. Took it out of content, you weren't making a forecast.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 20:23 | 1407113 Rynak
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Got a link to that post, or just the thread (i can find tylers post if necessary - just need the right page)? I'm interested just how much can be done via rollover.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:23 | 1407291 Rynak
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Thank you. From those numbers, it appears tyler was actually argueing the opposite: That just doing rollovers, are not enough to finance the deficit spending. TBH, i would have been surprised if rollovers were enough.... i mean, the amount of bonds they put out is unimaginable, but it doesn't seem enough to survive alone from rollovers... at least with current spending rates.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 21:29 | 1407305 baby_BLYTHE
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exactly, that is why even people like Bill Gross wonder, "Who in the hell will buy all the new treasury issuance once the FED stops buying?"

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 16:54 | 1406510 illyia
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It is amazing that these gamers-in-charge continue to rig the system. If they explored their game theory further they would realize that they are the end game.

The very fact that ZH reports so quickly and pretty much accurately indicates the end is near.

My amazement at stupid gamers, still thinking they "can get one over," is only exceeded by a genuine awe at their profound lack of respect for anything resembling America - or what America once was.

Almost getting used to the new normal...for now...

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:00 | 1406524 Saxxon
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This article + the 2 x 4 upside my silver position (recovering until B.O. released SPR oil to crush specs) reminds me; I am done trading. Mean it.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:04 | 1406527 Mae Kadoodie
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I am Iron Man.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:05 | 1406540 Pez
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Need "Time Cop" sequel to go back and take-out the early derivative funds managers

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:10 | 1406543 MarcusAurelius
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Good article and the future of trading. Nice! Jack up share price and then pull out the rug, do it again and again and again......what's next super high frequency trading, then ultra high frequency trading.....then ...........who the hell knows. Back in the 70's, 80's and even early 90's there were mystical traders who made their fortunes trading. Guys with names like Dennis, Lipchutz, Marcus and a few others who actually traded their way to fortunes. Now.....well it seems stealing is the way to go. Who can f... who the quickest. Don't need a system for that just a millisecond advantage and servers right at the exchange. Just plain stupid and hopefully they will beat up on each other for years before they all go broke.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 20:28 | 1407139 Rynak
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What confuses me, is that they even do give the public access to this. As it is now, HFT is still "a bit" in control, by being restricted to the big players...... what happens if this abomination is used by the public? Isn't this just guaranteeing that crap will happen, and regulation of HFT will be introduced (even if perhaps with the biggies being excluded of course)?

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:38 | 1406605 Caviar Emptor
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Taking the Three Card Monty Game that is the stock exchange to new heights! With Deutsche Borse dealing the cards and other insiders as shill 'players' from the audience (how they hook you is by making it look like the schmuks beat the dealer, that is, until you lay your bet down)

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:44 | 1406620 slewie the pi-rat
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later, we shall be treated to the expose' that this bloomberg-competitive enterprise was licensed by...,... bloomberg!!

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 17:55 | 1406657 Caviar Emptor
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I'm looking for a full decoupling of the stock market from US economic conditions. That's because the stock market (or what's left of it after dark pools) is really just a proxy for the the TBTF banks. If they ever get their subsidies cut, look for S&P 66. 

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 20:26 | 1407150 Rynak
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What? The stockmarket is still coupled to "the economy"? This is news to me.

Mon, 06/27/2011 - 19:16 | 1406880 Jasper M
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"At Duetche Borse, we for one welcome our new HFT overlords…"

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!