China Forced To Deny It Will Experience HYPERinflation In 2011, As Russia Unexpectedly Hikes Interest Rates

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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:46 | 1006083 JW n FL
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I like China will be refusing to admit there is any hyper inflation at all, thusly hyper inflation will not be effecting me either in 2011... thank you for your support and no worries, the beatings will continue until moral improves markedly.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:59 | 1006116 Bob Sponge
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The world powder keg is really heating up and we are only at QE2.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 02:18 | 1006241 tellsometruth
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well put...stunner of a state-ment

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 02:33 | 1006257 Michael
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Steroidal Inflation anyone?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 03:43 | 1006316 Michael
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I uploaded a high quality copy of Alex Jones on The View.

Alex Jones Hijacks The View for Charlie Sheen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKolDyhD0Vk

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 04:30 | 1006341 spdrdr
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What a fucking wanker........

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 04:45 | 1006347 asdasmos
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Jim Rogers on CNBC 02/27/11 (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY3QuT5xWpc

Jim Rogers on CNBC 02/27/11 (Part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcRpYpp81U

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:05 | 1006120 traderjoe
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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:04 | 1006126 traderjoe
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Not that I want to get in the middle of it, but do you think your personal troll will stop by tonite? There's been a few threads (including others) that have lately devolved into personal arguments...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:09 | 1006139 JW n FL
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mine? if so mine is dead and gone. no worries, lets get back to the work of educating or bashing each others arguements to make them stronger / fun!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 11:08 | 1006710 ft65
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Quoting JW n FL / GLP ^TrInIty^

mine? if so mine is dead and gone. no worries, lets get back to the work of educating or bashing each others arguements to make them stronger / fun!

Why don't you allow the same on your wo-wo forum www.godlikeproductions.com, instead come here to ZH to bespoil the comments section. Why do you never educate or bash my comment here at ZH do you have something to hide? Are my posts invisible to the HB Gary MacDill software you use / test?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1008075 JW n FL
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Jason / Alex / whoever,

 

Quit fucking stalking me... so that you can keep pasting your website here in ZeroHedge... you are a bottom feeding group who cant pay for your corp docs to be filed... last ditch or not, you picked the wrong person to stalk. now fuck off.

 

James Edward Workman

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 02:52 | 1006247 Michael
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You called? What the hell is it with the comment counts on these threads being so low? Lets get this party started.

Extra Extra, read all about it;

"9/11 was Assisted by the Government".

You have to nudge the MSM and make them say, "9/11 was Assisted by the Government".

Use these exact words 10,000 times and the MSM will talk about it. Don't use the old phrase, "9/11 is an inside job". There is too much cognitive dissonance with that phrase.

Write lots of blog stories with this headline;

"9/11 was Assisted by the Government".

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 04:03 | 1006332 Xkwisetly Paneful
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and all the mindless government drones somehow pulled it off and kept quiet about it. First nomination for king of the moronistas.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 06:37 | 1006387 MolotovCockhead
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Building what? building.org..........that's building7.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 08:25 | 1006455 Alcoholic Nativ...
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They managed to commit war crimes in Iraq and get everybody and the MSM to shut up about it.  The two are very linked.

Remember the first time the WTC got bombed, it was government supervised, the underwear bomber ring a bell?

I understand the knee jerk protectionism of your country, but really, the U.S. has gone to shit since 9/11. Nobody is going to jail? Why? because no crimes were committed?  No, Financial crooks and war criminals are all that's left.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 08:41 | 1006482 smlbizman
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i would just ask you to think of all the terroist attacks you can think of.  they all seem to be of  simple planning. now consider the complexity of the 911 plot. it does not seem to fit their m.o.  i do not think of a conspiracy, i dont even know who alex jones is, but from my own common sense it appears fishy.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 09:12 | 1006547 Xkwisetly Paneful
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They can't deliver the mail or plow the streets properly but they assisted in the largest domestic attack on the continental USA right under our noses where people are on video at random 100times a day. In the country's most populous city of all places. 

 

If they went to all that trouble, why didn't they just plant WMDS in Iraq? Much simpler and they pinned the entire war on it. It must be because they had a bout of their conscience kicking in.

 

 

I really understand the self loathing having been indoctrinated in the same basic moonbat, whackjob educational institutions as the rest.  

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 09:16 | 1006585 JW n FL
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by Michael
on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:52
#1006247

 

You called?

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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 02:08 | 1006232 robertocarlos
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I also like China.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 08:50 | 1006508 Bobbyrib
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By increasing their Treausury holdings they seem to be trying to stick us with the unwanted inflation they are experiencing.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 09:54 | 1006680 ft65
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Quoting JW nFL / GLP ^TrInIty^

I like China will be refusing to admit there is any hyper inflation at all, thusly hyper inflation will not be effecting me either in 2011... thank you for your support and no worries, the beatings will continue until moral improves markedly.

Yep, that sound par for the course with you. Explains why you so love to dish out the bans at your forum www.godlikeproductions.com. I can sleep at night knowing we are safe for another 10 months... "But what then oh enlightened one?"

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 09:59 | 1006699 swanpoint
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My (Chinese) neighbor here at work just got back from China; 50% food increase over the New Year holiday.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 10:20 | 1006768 MiddleMeThis
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Plastic Rice Baby!!!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:50 | 1006092 holdbuysell
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In the continuum of being increasingly more extreme, what is the word for "being one notch below hyper". Ultra?

Maybe that's what China means.

Whew, we can relax. It's only ultrainflation to be expected in China.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:56 | 1006105 Spitzer
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Are any of you aware that China has to print RMB to buy dollars to peg the RMB ?

So the second that China stops printing RMB, inflation will stop in China and start in the US ?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:03 | 1006124 DonutBoy
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Yes - that's the Bernank's plan in a nutshell. They get massive inflation or they break the peg.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:13 | 1006147 Spitzer
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haha, yeah and the act of breaking the peg automatically pushes the inflation on the US.

US dollar down, RMB up. And just in case you didnt know, you don't need a weak currency to be export competitive. Germany has higher wages then the US does yet it has trade surpluses with China.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:18 | 1006163 DonutBoy
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The Germans never hollowed out their industrial base, they have built and maintained brands which garner deserved world-wide respect for quality.  Thus they can keep higher wages.  The US cannot, we don't have that base or the rep.  We need the lower currency.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:42 | 1006202 Spitzer
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A lower value currency is the unfortunate result of Fed policy. Unless you live outside the US, there is no reason to want a low dollar. Thats like wanting low wages. The dollar will have fallen even if there was no bailouts or stimulus. There is no reason to try and lower the value of the USD, the market will price it.

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:54 | 1006214 Dr. Porkchop
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Yes, they've been pushing the weak dollar concept here in Canada for ages... because it's 'good' for our exports. What they are really saying is, here, have a weak currency and higher priced imports for your troubles, oh, and here's NAFTA for good measure, that will be a net benefit to the middle class too.

I find that when things grate against your common sense, it's because something is wrong.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 12:32 | 1007280 tellsometruth
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i agree with you

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 09:38 | 1006619 Spalding_Smailes
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What the fuck are you talking about ... ? They are printing like mad in China ... M2 in U.S. up what, 2 % ....

 

By the end of January 2010, the balance of broad money supply (M2) in China was RMB 62.51 trillion ($9.15 trillion), a year-on-year increase of 25.98 percent but a decrease of 1.7 percent compared with the end of last year. Narrow money supply (M1) in China at the end of January stood at RMB 22.96 trillion ($3.36 trillion), indicating an increase of 38.96 percent year on year, while money in circulation (M0) was down by 0.79 percent year on year to RMB 4.08 trillion ($596.95 billion), with net cash flow in the month in question at RMB 251.2 billion, down by RMB 425.2 billion ($36.75 billion) year on year.

At the end of January, RMB loans of Chinese financial institutions stood at RMB 41.37 trillion ($6.05 trillion), a year-on-year increase of 29.31 percent, with the growth rate down by 2.43 percent compared with the end of 2009.

Domestic and foreign currency deposits at Chinese financial institutions increased by RMB 1.514 trillion ($221.51 billion) during the month of January. With a year-on-year increase of 26.77 percent, the domestic and foreign deposits stood at RMB 62.72 trillion ($9.18 trillion) at the end of January.

http://www.steelorbis.com/steel-news/latest-news/chinas-broad-money-supp...

BEIJING (Dow Jones)--China's broadest measure of money supply, M2, is likely to rise by 16% this year, Gao Xiaoqiong, the head of a regional branch of the People's Bank of China, said in a commentary piece in the Financial News on Monday.

At the end of December, M2 was up 19.7% from a year earlier.

Gao, the head of a PBOC branch in Nanchang city, southern China's Jiangxi province, said in the article the shift in China's monetary policy stance to "prudent" from "moderately loose" will have an especially large impact on China's less-developed areas. The central bank should try to promote small-scale loans in rural areas and to poor individuals as well as loans to women starting businesses, he said.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110227-702695.html



 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 07:36 | 1006412 Popo
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Yes, that is the Bernank plan.  Force China to raise rates by pushing inflation on them.  

 

Unfortunately,  Bernanke is a naive academic and believes that a stronger Chinese currency will magically manifest itself in a resurrection of American manufacturing and exports.   On this note he is hopelessly, tragically wrong.   Economists rely on animal spirits as a matter of religious belief -- but the US manufacturing base has been gutted and cannot be resurrected due to social and political obstructions which are not easily overcome in 10, 20 or even 30 years.  

 

The rise in Chinese rates will spell the beginning of the disastrous plunge in living standards which will be the most significant event in the American 21st century.  

 

Bernanke will scratch his bald head and wonder why our debauched currency isn't magically spawning industry, jobs and social order.  It worked on paper, afterall...

 

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 08:58 | 1006530 Bobbyrib
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Our manufacturing base can be resurrected, but corporations would have to make sacrifices.

 

As we all know labor is the only one who should be making sacrifices...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 05:48 | 1006361 Mentaliusanything
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In the end (and I mean it literally) I'm betting on 

mega, turbo, or nitrous inflation - NUCLEAR

NUCLEAR - the modern way to clean the stains left by Capitalism

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:52 | 1006094 Bolweevil
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Hella inflation

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:53 | 1006097 Harmonious_Diss...
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Dude Trader?  By any chance does The Dude abide?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:56 | 1006109 three chord sloth
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Heh. I thought dude trading went away when they closed all the bath houses.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:52 | 1006099 Spitzer
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China will have to hyperinflate to keep the dollar peg so in other words, China is just saying they will not be purchasing as much dollars.

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:54 | 1006101 xPat
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>Also, just where does China put the threshold cut off on "hyper" - 10%? 20%? 50%?

 

Assuming you are referring to annual inflation rates, none of the above even begin to approach hyperinflation. There are several definitions, but 50% per MONTH is probably the most common.

xPat

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 07:52 | 1006422 Withdrawn Sanction
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There are several definitions, but 50% per MONTH is probably the most common.

True, there are several definitions, and 50% is the most widely cited.  It comes from Philip Cagan's work, but it is ultimately, an arbitrary threshold.  Perhaps "really fast" or "a lot" would be equally as accurate and useful.

In my view, the really interesting part of the left field Chinese comments is the staunch denial of an accusation not made.  As the old saying goes, "nothing is confirmed until it is officially denied."  

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:55 | 1006103 DonutBoy
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Whoa mate!  Who asked you about hyper-inflation?  I predict a career move in Yao Jingyuan's immediate future.

The rest of you move along, these aren't the droids you're looking for.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 00:58 | 1006115 TJWP
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So first off all, China has so many people it stands to reason that if they do it they do it big. Secondly you didn't honestly think that China was going to allow Geithner and Bernanke to one up them. Over in China they do things BIG and authoritarian. 

 

Or perhaps they are simply pulling a Gadaffi - "deny till you die"

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:12 | 1006143 JW n FL
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Over in China they do things BIG and authoritarian. 

 

Or perhaps they are simply pulling a Gadaffi - "deny till you die"

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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:09 | 1006127 bob_dabolina
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I agree.

I am observing healthy inflation due to a robust global recovery. It is by nature that prices would rise in congruence with my observations.

Unemployment as measured by U3 remains lofty, however, the birth-death rate as well as people no longer caring to even find work should off-set this figure in the coming months. I expect a 0% unemployment figure by 2015 according to our models.

-Ben Bernanke.

 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 02:39 | 1006260 Bob Sponge
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Yes, Ben. When the economy is not creating jobs, in 4 years many, many people will have given up on finding a job. Are you figuring on starvation and suicides increasing the death rate part of your models?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:06 | 1006131 chump666
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China is the big danger now, they can't fudge hyperinflation. Tea prices are a good example as is rice..

Oil crunch coming for China.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 01:08 | 1006141 reader2010
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The price of pork is the ultimate gauge of inflation for the Chinks. I heard they had about 500 million pigs last year.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 06:10 | 1006370 MsCreant
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Chinks? 

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