China To "Investigate" Wreckage Of Top Secret Stealth Chopper Used In bin Laden Raid

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Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:06 | 1262439 Sudden Debt
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Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:14 | 1262449 Ident 7777 economy
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What - they have a sudden interest in L.O. TAIL ROTOR designs? (News to China: That's all that was left after intentional destruction of this craft ...)


L.O -> Low Observable (stealth)



Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:24 | 1262514 Sudden Debt
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That chopper wasn't left behind by accident.

I'm pretty sure there's a hidden agenda with all this.

Otherwise a single missile would have cleaned the place.

You can say whatever you want about American, BUT IF THEY WANT TO BLOW SOMETHING UP THEY BLOW IT UP IN STYLE!

The had drones with hellfires flying over when they did the attack. Don't you think they'd blown it if it wasn't supposed to be found?

And gently "asking" it back? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:27 | 1262535 Ident 7777 economy
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That chopper wasn't left behind by accident.

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"An accident left the chopper behind"

There; fixed your logic for you ..


(with the main body of the craft 'blown up'  by our forces)

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:48 | 1262627 amusedobserver
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Sudden Debt got it right the first time.  They should be investigating who got the payoff to have the "mechanical failure" at just the right moment.


Maybe the same guy who dropped the video link for 25 minutes during the take down of the impersonator of OBL.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:49 | 1262632 nmewn
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If the compound is still standing...what went boom?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:29 | 1262854 Bananamerican
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Fuck Pakistan and fuck China...and fuck Amerika™ for hollowing itself out

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 14:53 | 1264347 falak pema
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if you did it to yourself you'd show them the Hemingway...did.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:30 | 1262539 johngaltfla
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Odds are it was shot down. Otherwise they would have bene more thorough about "cleansing" the area.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:42 | 1262608 Ident 7777 economy
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Odds are it was shot down. 

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Looked to me like they (the chopper) were setting down/coing down right on top of that wall ... notice how the tail section is sitting ...

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 16:56 | 1265034 zerozulu
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Question? In the event of tail landing on the wall, Can the crew survive inside the cockpit? engine running full power, rotter spinning full rpm? 

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:48 | 1262641 john39
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the entire chopper story smells like bs to me, perhaps to cover the fact that the entire osama story is bs...  layer upon layer of lies.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:56 | 1262669 hedgeless_horseman
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I agree. 

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 13:54 | 1264031 dogbreath
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yup, agreed.  The chopper was there for a reason and I would think the mission was planned before the birth certificate issue blew up.  Like you say, layer upon layer of bullshit. 

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 12:02 | 1263404 Broder_Tuck
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It is called technology transfer, we wouldn't want the third world war to be over to quickley now would we...

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:26 | 1262534 just_looking
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I read that the 'destruction' was flawed, leaving too much in tact on the ground.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:29 | 1262551 Ident 7777 economy
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IIRC the vid presented shows 'licking flames' where the main bulk of the wreckage was ...

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:41 | 1262603 Gene Parmesan
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I believe the tail section fell on the other side of a wall, so they couldn't get at it from the ground. Missiles were probably out of the question given the circumstances.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:56 | 1262668 Ident 7777 economy
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That's what I said - just a few posts above ...they set down on the wall (in all likelyhood)

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:53 | 1262664 Derpin USA
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My understanding was that it crashed into the compound's wall, causing the tail section to fall outside the compound. That would easily explain why it was left unmarked by any signs of fire or explosion. They couldn't get to it.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:46 | 1262914 caconhma
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The entire mission was a catastrophic failure. The mission purpose was to remove "Osama bin Laden" and witnessed. The helicopter crush made it impossible since there were not enough room inside the remaining helicopters.


- Numerous witnesses had to be slaughtered. It became a mafia hit instead of a military operation.

- The numerous "family members" also were left behind creating a big headache of how to handle them

- Without the left helicopter, there would not be any publicity about the mission itself sparing the Pakistani puppet government from the humiliation and insults 

- Finally, the latest US stealth technology will end up in Chinese hands greatly improving their future military capabilities


Yes, dear Obama bin Laden, you fucked up America one more time. But don't worry, American imbeciles are proud of having you as their president.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 11:16 | 1263205 Cardinal Fang
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Nice summary. Although, the sense I get from the pictures is that it is some kind of conversion kit and not a full on stealth unit.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 15:22 | 1264531 DosZap
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 Finally, the latest US stealth technology will end up in Chinese hands greatly improving their future military capabilities


This is NOTHING, Clinton when in office gave they CRAY computer technology.

Thus enabling them to hit ANYWHERE in the USA using ICBM's, with the same accuracy as ourselves.


To me this was a treasonous act.Before that, they were only able to hit the West Coast, and with no real practical accuracy.


On a final note, can ANY person here tell me one thing Teleprompterman has done RIGHT?.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 16:47 | 1264960 zerozulu
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Sooner you will see chinese chopper flying with invisible tail.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:11 | 1262461 unky
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Pakistani officals are corrupt, so whoever will bid more will get the helicopter

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:23 | 1262841 Mad Max
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Is this somehow different from officials in other countries?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 15:23 | 1264535 DosZap
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Why JUNK unky?.

It's TRUE.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:19 | 1262485 Weisbrot
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prez BJ Lewinsky give them silent screw sub technology and 0bummer gives them a viable sealth shell.

does anyone actually believe these things are accidents??

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:29 | 1262869 Dolar in a vortex
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Wasn't it missile systems through Loral?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:28 | 1262528 I am more equal...
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The upside is that if the Chinesees get it they can make it cheaper there and sell it to the US.  But what would the industrial military complex do then?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 11:11 | 1263161 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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Go to plan "B." Make billions torturing the American people with TSA / Dept of "Father"land Security.



Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:10 | 1262441 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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I think the whole world, including true American patriots, should align with China and forge an alliance to get rid of the nasty cancerous US of A before it kills us all!

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:18 | 1262494 Internet Tough Guy
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What time do you self-immolate?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:20 | 1262506 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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Same time as the Tunisian fella.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:58 | 1262685 Derpin USA
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The preferred nomenclature is Ulcered Sphincter of Asserica.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 18:57 | 1265631 augie
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comic gold.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:11 | 1262450 augie
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And yes, Pakistan already owes China

So does the American government. Clinton sold missle secrets to the Chinese right? How difficult is the leap to see that the chopper was left there intentionally in return for less pressure on our monetary policy?  On the world level i dont think "money" is the only currency, technology is a great barter tool.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:15 | 1262478 serotonindumptruck
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A conspiracy, wrapped in a riddle, surrounded by a conundrum.

It seems like a new "axis" is forming. Russia, China, India, Iran, Syria, and now Pakistan.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:23 | 1262517 augie
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Another amalgamation by the world elites. Divide et impera. It will be dissolved and reconsituted in some other conflict to maintain the fear just as it has been throughout human history.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:35 | 1262564 serotonindumptruck
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You are no doubt correct. The elite hold no sense of blind nationalism or allegiance to any one nation or the corresponding rectangular piece of cloth. "Patriotism" and "nationalism" are implements of control, to be used for purposes of manipulating mass opinion.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:40 | 1262596 augie
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This is why i love ZH. So many people with their eyes open.



Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:34 | 1262570 taxpayer102
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from aviationweek :

"The Seals appear to have destroyed almost all of the airframe that landed inside the compound, but part of the helicopter’s tail landed outside the wall and escaped demolition during the roughly 40-min. ground operation.

The public photos show that the destroyed Black Hawk’s tail features stealth-configured shapes on the boom and the tail-rotor hub fairings, swept stabilizers and a “dishpan” cover over a five- or six-blade tail rotor. It has a silver-loaded infrared (IR) suppression finish similar to that seen on the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey.

Stealth enhancements for rotorcraft are not new and were applied extensively to the Boeing/Sikorsky RAH-66 Comanche, canceled in 2004. Compared with fixed-wing stealth, more emphasis is usually placed on noise and IR signatures."


Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:51 | 1262640 serotonindumptruck
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"It has a silver-loaded infrared (IR) suppression finish similar to that seen on the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey."

Well, no wonder it crashed with that kind of flawed engineering. Probably wasn't even shot down.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:49 | 1262645 duo
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silver...kills bacteria, bankers, vampires, AND radar reflections.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:30 | 1262882 Dolar in a vortex
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Investors too.

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:18 | 1262813 Ahmeexnal
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"...silver-loaded infrared (IR) suppression finish..."


Now THAT'S why the thing failed! Should have been plastered with FRNs instead!!

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 12:21 | 1263509 knukles
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Within the parametrics of the well disproven, more aptly described as yet to be rigorously tested and confirmed Efficient Capital Market Hypothesis (which is why it's referred to as a fucking Hypothesis, as nothing has been proven other than just being somewhat even less than anecdotal bullshit, just like the Keynesian multiplier being any number, pick a number greater than 0, Not) it would be interesting to establish a correlation between silver prices and stealth helicopter crashes.
Ergo (likewise within the framework of at best anecdotal evidence established as a sample set of one event which is more rigorous than that for the ECMH) we can conclude that the helicopter crashed because the price of silver crashed.  Further, employing in this case exceedingly faulty Syllogistic Logic, given that silver crashed because JPM slammed the market (manipulation in the dark ages which was treated in a manner similar to debasement of currency, with the accused nailed to crosses along the Appian Way) then JPM's actions were responsible for the crash of the helicopter and thus, by extension should be construed as treasonous.

And thus, silver manipulators should be exported to Italy to be crucified along the Appian Way for the beneficial education of the starving, oppressed sheeple to enjoy during prime time newscasts, furthering the dominant social theme of not fucking with the elite's monetary system.
Which further opens the question to Benny and the Red's engagement in the conspiracy, the truth of which could only be found subsequent to the recently now apparently legal and socially acceptable application of the newest Olympic sport of water-boarding.

Have I missed anything?

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 11:31 | 1263263 oogs66
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maybe it was left as payment to pakistan

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:12 | 1262454 Xibalba
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And we thought a land invasion was unlikely.......

Wed, 05/11/2011 - 09:14 | 1262457 Aengrod
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We will soon see Chinese "stealth" helicopter with russian engines. LOL.

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