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China Lashes Out At US "Hypocrisy", Blasts US Human Rights "Double Standard" In Pursuing "World Hegemony"
In what can only be described as a stunning deterioration in foreign relations between the world's two superpowers, following Friday's release by the US State Department of the annual report on human rights, which expressed sharp criticism of the human rights records of China, North Korea, Cuba and Belarus, among others, China decided it has had enough. Less than 48 hours later, it has lashed back at the US with a report that is making headlines at every government controlled, and otherwise, media in mainland China, which makes a mockery of the US double standard when it comes to human rights, and exposes US "hypocrisy" which China (rightly many would claim) asserts is merely a pretext for continued US attempts at world "hegemony". As Xinhua reports on its front page, "The Human Rights Record of the United States in 2010 was
released by the Information Office of China's State Council, or
cabinet, in response to the Country Reports on Human Rights Practices
for 2010 issued by the U.S. Department of State on April. The U.S. reports are "full of distortions and
accusations of the human rights situation in more than 190 countries and
regions including China. However, the United States turned a blind eye
to its own terrible human rights situation and seldom mentioned it,"
China's report said." The war of words hits a new all time record: "The United States has taken human rights as "a political instrument to defame other nations' image and seek its own strategic interests," the report said. While illustrating a dismal record of the United States on its own human rights, China's report said the United States could not be justified to pose as the world's "human rights justice." "However, it released the Country Reports on Human Rights Practices year after year to accuse and blame other countries for their human rights practices," the report said. These moves fully expose the United States' hypocrisy by exercising double standards on human rights and its malicious design to pursue hegemony under the pretext of human rights, it said. The report advised the U.S. government to "take concrete actions to improve its own human rights conditions, check and rectify its acts in the human rights field, and stop the hegemonistic deeds of using human rights issues to interfere in other countries' internal affairs." While that last sentence may not be an explicit warning for the US to shut the hell up and focus on its own dirty laundry, or else, it sure does sound like one.
VIOLATION OF CITIZENS' RIGHTS
In the United States, the violation of citizens' civil and political rights by the government is severe, said the report.
Citizen's privacy has been undermined. More than 6,600 travelers had been subject to electronic device searches between October 1, 2008 and June 2, 2010, nearly half of them American citizens, said the report, citing figures released by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in September 2010.
The report said abuse of violence and torturing suspects to get confession is serious in the U.S. law enforcement, and "wrongful conviction occurred quite often."
While advocating Internet freedom, the U.S. in fact imposes fairly strict restriction on cyberspace, said the report.
The United States applies double standards on Internet freedom by requesting unrestricted "Internet freedom" in other countries, which becomes an important diplomatic tool for the U.S. to impose pressure and seek hegemony, and imposing strict restriction within its own territory, the report said.
The U.S. regards itself as "the beacon of democracy." However, its democracy is largely based on money, the report said.
According to media report in 2010, U.S. House and Senate candidates shattered fundraising records for a midterm election, taking in more than 1.5 billion U.S. dollars as of October 24. The midterm election, held in November 2010, finally cost 3.98 billion U.S. dollars, the most expensive in the U.S. history.
HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF VIOLENT CRIMES
One out of every five people is a victim of a crime in the United States every year, said the report.
The United States reports the world' s highest incidence of violent crimes, and its people's lives, properties and personal security are not duly protected, the report said.
In 2009, an estimated 4.3 million violent crimes, 15.6 million property crimes and 133,000 personal thefts were committed against U.S. residents aged 12 or older, and the violent crime rate was 17.1 victimizations per 1,000 persons, said the report, quoting figures from the U.S. Department of Justice.
The United States also ranks first in the world in terms of the number of privately-owned guns and had high incidence of gun-related crimes, said the report, noting that the United States exercised lax control on the already rampant gun ownership.
Some 90 million people own an estimated 200 million guns in the United States, which has a population of about 300 million, the report said citing figures from the public media.
Statistics showed there were 12,000 gun murders a year in the United States, the report said.
The report also said that the frequent campus shootings in colleges in the United States came to the spotlight in recent years.
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION DEEP-SEATED
"Racial discrimination, deep-seated in the United States, has permeated every aspect of social life," said the report.
Minority groups confront discrimination in their employment and occupation. The black people are treated unfairly or excluded in promotion, welfare and employment, the report quoted U.S media reports as saying.
It is reported that one-third of black people confronted discrimination at work, against which only one-sixteenth of the black people would lodge a complaint.
The New York Times reported on September 23, 2010 that by the end of September 30, 2009, Muslim workers had filed a record 803 claims of complaints over employment discrimination, up 20 percent from the previous year.
The report said U.S. minority groups have high unemployment rate, and do not enjoy the same political status as white people.
Poverty proportion for U.S. minorities is high in the United States. The poverty proportion of the black was 25.8 percent in 2009, and those of Hispanic origin and Asian were 25.3 percent and 12.5 percent respectively, much higher than that of the non-Hispanic white at 9.4 percent, said the report, citing U.S. media figures.
The report also said that U.S. minority groups face obvious inequality in education, and the health care for African-American people is worrisome.
Racial discrimination is evident in the law enforcement and judicial systems, racial hate crimes are frequent, and immigrants' rights and interests are not guaranteed, said the report.
RIGHTS OF WOMEN, CHILDREN IS BOTHERING
Gender discrimination against women widely exists in the United States, and women in the country often experience sexual assault and violence.
Statistics showed that some 20 million women are rape victims in the country, some one fifth female students on campus are victims of sexual assault, and nearly 3,000 female soldiers were sexually assaulted in fiscal year 2008, up nine percent from the year before.
Women are also victims of domestic violence in the United States, said the report, as some 1.3 million people fall victim to domestic violence every year, with women accounting for 92 percent.
Many children in the U.S. live in poverty and their physical and mental health is not ensured as nearly one in four children struggles with hunger, according to the report.
The report also pointed out that violence against children is very severe in the country, citing figures from the official website of Love Our Children USA that every year, over three million children are victims of violence reportedly and the actual number is three times greater.
More than 93,000 children are currently incarcerated in the United States, and between 75 and 93 percent of children have experienced at least one traumatic experience, including sexual abuse and neglect, the report said.
According to the report, pornographic content is rampant on the Internet and severely harms American children as seven in 10 children have accidentally accessed pornography on the Internet and one in three has done so intentionally.
INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
The United States has a notorious record of international human rights violations, said the report.
The U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have caused huge civilian casualties.
Figures from the WikiLeaks website revealed up to 285,000 war casualties in Iraq from March 2003 through the end of 2009, with 63 percent of the 109,000 people killed in the Iraq war being civilians.
"The U.S. military actions in Afghanistan and other regions have also brought tremendous casualties to local people," said the report.
The report cited the notorious case on a "kill team" formed by five soldiers from the 5th Stryker Combat Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division of the U.S. forces in Afghanistan. The team had committed at least three murders, where they randomly targeted and killed Afghan civilians, and dismembered the corpses and hoarded the human bones.
In addition, the U.S.-led North Atlantic Treaty Organization troops had caused 535 Afghan civilian deaths and injuries in 2009. Among them 113 civilians were shot and killed, an increase of 43 percent over 2008, the report quoted McClatchy Newspapers as saying.
PRISONER ABUSE SCANDALS
The United States have been holding individuals captured under the pretext of the "war on terror" and abusing detainees with various methods, according to the report.
The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) established secret detention facilities to interrogate so-called "high-value detainees," said the report, citing a document submitted to the United Nations Human Rights Council in May 2010.
According to the document, the CIA had taken custody of 94 detainees, and had employed "enhanced techniques" to varying degrees, including stress positions, extreme temperature changes, sleep deprivation and "waterboarding" in the interrogation of 28 of those detainees.
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Agree about the US Gov. Why not go to North Korea and try being ambivalent about Dear Leader. Same system, different season, but probably not for long.
No thanks. Spent some time in SK and the weather sucks and the fertilizer is not really potash. Biggest freakin' rats I've ever seen.
Most than the majority (true majority, not the majority US mind set has led to treat as a majority) were US citizens.
The US imprisoned US citizens of japanese ancestors on the only ground they had japanese ancestors. But most of them were US citizens.
Much of this is true but sounds like a war of propaganda. They are just pissed because their dollars are loosing value faster than they can get rid of them. There's really no reason for them to be polite to us anymore now that we can't pay our bill to them so they're just giving us a dose of our own medicine. We deserve it.
Hu is on first...
US is "I don't know"
currency wars heating up; can't wait till they get serious....
And then there were the U.S. bombings of Koreans, Vietnamese, Panamanians, Granadians, Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans, could Iceland be next?
Iceland dont have oil or gold or re's so there safe..And if the truth may be told, I dont know how safe the fish may soon be..
Good points. But, they might end up with the only "safe" fish and then there is that whole notion of Icelandic Exceptionalism.
Iceland: Our new Atlantic Hawaii
Azores (Portuguese): Our new Atlantic Guam
Still waiting on tanks to crush people on the National Mall...still waiting on a Free Tibet (for my "progressive" pals...LOL)...still waiting on DOS attacks by my government on the internet...still waiting on poverty stricken female farm girls to make a decent wage in a Chinese city factory (they feel females are easier to control dontcha know) etc. ad nauseum.
So this is what a Chinese temper tantrum looks like ;-)
As a few post have suggested, China must be reading this blog. Then listen to this if you will, we the so called "sheeple," will keep our gun's and physical silver. Might just keep my good saddle horse as well.
You can wait a long time for that. It wont change the very fact that the US has hijacked humanity through the issue of human rights to persue selfish interests.
The US is that nation that started by proclaiming that all human beings have an unalienable right to liberty and maintained slavery of human beings.
Double standard from the start, double standard onward...
Hmmm.... seeing as you don't believe there's any kind of time-limit for such crimes, please identify all the places mankind has lived that have never seen slavery.
He can't...because the British spread it just about everywhere they went.
The guilt he bears for his ancestors actions must be crushing to live with ;-)
The British navy later waged war on the slave traders, having later decided it was a bad thing. Other european powers were slower to come around to that position on the practice. Just sayin'.
Yeppers...but they damn sure had a hard time giving up their ill gotten gains from the practice.
Institute slavery...gain wealth...then say whoops...our bad, lets stop this barbaric thing without giving back the profits from it rings a little shallow with me.
What is also never discussed is the slavery the muslims engaged in regarding Africans...and still do to this very day.
Holy cow. US citizens really have troubles with their self proclaimed exceptionalism.
Please list places where freedom was declared an inalienable right attached to human condition and practizing slavery. Who comes as the mother of all?
Once a set of morality is taken, there is no reason to change the perception of it.
In the US, it is still vastly hold that some people were ignorant of the so called human rights. Yet for the US citizens, it means they are guiltier than US citizens who knew and crafted the so called human rights.
Ignore the law, break an unknown rule and you are guilty in the US citizens' eyes.
Know the law, break rules you establish yourself and you are innocent. At least, if you are a US citizen...
Look up the Shays and the Wiskey Rebellion by Revolutionary War heroes who were not paid but taxed by Hamilton, Unpaid hungry Bonus Army Campers burned and crushed by Eisenhower, McArthur and Partton with Tanks and Arsenite gas in violation of posse comitatus, or, as someone mentioned elsewhere, Ruby Ridge, McMurrah, 9-11, Texas Mormon Children, Waco et al
Crash all fascist governments and their proxy banks; BUY SILVER.
+1
Does Obama still have that torture camp?
Which one?
Saudi Arabia.
China is talking out of their ass. They have no right to criticize the U.S. on human rights. Their record is despicable compared to the U.S.
It is still illegal to teach children under 18 in China about God and Jesus. It is still illegal for three or more Christians to gather for religious purposes without government approval. Eighty percent of Chinese Christians are part of unregistered illegal churches, because they say Christ is Lord, and they will not allow an atheistic government to control their churches. Some western Christians have naively criticized unregistered churches, without understanding that they cannot in good conscience bow their knees to a government whose hands have long been stained by the blood of Christians.
I do not understand why so many austrian economists are so enamored with China like it is a beacon of sound government. Human rights are the precursor to freedom and a productive economy. The US is far from where it was two centuries ago but it is still far superior to most countries in regard to human rights. No thanks to Bernanke we are back tracking on this front.
Don't get me wrong...I'm not sticking up for fucking China...
But, I'd ban religion too.
What gives the government the right to ban anything if does not inflict upon another man's rights? Religious views should not be banned or forced upon people. It should be a free choice. Just because you do not believe in God does not mean it should be illegal to.
Exactly, try though we might we'll never be able to outlaw gullibility.
Woah leave Austrian economics out of this. First, both the US and China are having a fallacious debate. Comparing one to the other has no validity, because both countries are involved in constructing paradigms of false realities. You think you are free in America? Wait until the dollar collapses, and a police state is brought into place. Maybe Americans will remember how to write a good protest song (I do), but we need millions of people to make a difference.
Corporations dictate American ideology. Americans think they are free, but they are not. What is unemployment, and not the B(L)S number. How many are reliant on "government", which is a proxy for the corporate enterprise. I could add things, but I will cut to the point....
Where would I rather live? Not even in question, and I will stay rhetorical, but if you think that America is so much better, go to downtown Compton and ask how happy everyone there is. A false dialectic is just that, false.
I do not think I am completely free in America. I think I am much freer than I would be in China. Yes, I think America is much better than China but that is not saying much. In many respects I think it is like comparing a douche bag and a turd sandwich. Did I ever say I think the dollar would collapse? No. I think it already has collapsed. Do you know what a dollar was worth 200 hundred years ago? I have no clue whether a police state will be brought in. I am hoping Ron Paul gets elected and he puts America back where it started. He has a better chance of being president now than he ever did.
Everybody are forever complaining how the banksters are ripping off the sheeple, when a non-American say something similar, everybody shits themselves. Hypocritical wankers, look in the mirror!
Religion shouldn't be taught to anyone under the age of 40.
Under 40 you don't have enough life experience to understand yourself much less dedicate your life to a morality.
Know yourself before you seek to know another.
China's bureaucrats are terrified of losing control of over a billion people.
Its China that wants hegemony, not the US. The US just wants domination. The US could careless about your personal preferences.
No comment.
Being a product of a Catholic education I made it a point not to teach my children about God and Jesus before they were 18.
+ 1
I believe that to be truly free, a society needs to be free of institutionalized religion.
I remember a while back one Christmas in China I did the church on Christmas thing and there were police outside taking pictures and checking some people before they entered. Then, when you got in the church, there were CCTV cameras everywhere. Some "church".
They definitely need to be careful in how they cheerlead for China, but I think they are more enamored with the fact that China is saying something to the rest of the world about the USA because we presume to be squeaky clean, when our gov't clearly is not.
very nice post Luke 21
you'll find that if you want to be popular and get less junks you need to say things like:
KILL ALL JEWS
ZIONISM RULES AMERICA
CHRISTIANS ARE WORSE THEN NAZI'S
MUSLIMS ARE OUR FRIENDS
OBAMA IS THE ONE!
US GOVT IS THE FACE OF EVIL
UNITED NATIONS IS THE HOPE OF THE WORLD
CHINESE MARKET COMMUNISM IS SUPERIOR TO CAPITALISM
THERE IS MUCH WE CAN LEARN FROM THE CHINESE
AL JEZEERA & RUSSIA TODAY ARE THE ONLY TRUTHFUL MEDIA OUTLETS ON EARTH
gasp...I can't go on hahahaha
Wow, are you butthurt.
No-one here is "popular" for anti-Semitic views. NO-ONE.
Zionism DOES rule America. What do you think Israel would have to do to lose American support? I can't think of a thing.
No-one says Christians are worse than Nazis.
No-one says Muslims are our friends. They say that we should stop making them our enemies.
No-one except libtrolls still likes Obama. You are WILDLY off base on this.
US government IS the face of evil.
No-one here (except maybe Libtrolls) likes the UN. Again, wildly off base.
The Chinese do not have market communism, and we don't have capitalism. They are free market authoritarians. We like the free markets, we don't like the authoritarianism. We have socialism, and have had it since we adopted a centrally planned economic system in 1913.
Only a fool thinks he has nothing to learn.
Al Jezeera and Russia Today are better news outlets than CNN, MSNBS, or Faux.
You are an idiot. Sorry :(
Bravo
Facts are facts. Like it or like it not. That wont change. Their record or the record of anyone bears little in terms of talking.
It is clear for anyone to see that the US has hijacked humanity through the issue of human rights in order to pursue selfish interests.
This from day zero when the US citizens declared that human beings had unalienable rights and maintain human beings in slavery. Double standards from the beginning, double standards as morality...
China's record, China doings at that moment of history, nobody will change that fact.
The US has hijacked humanity to pursue self interests.
I do not understand why so many austrian economists are so enamored with China like it is a beacon of sound government.
I'm sorry? What economists of the Austrian School describe China thus?
Mark my words we will go to war with China. This is only the start of escalation.
Anyone remember one of the reasons why the Japs lashed out at the US at the start of WWII? We cut off their oil supply. Now America (Nato) is launching an invasion of Africa, ME and surrounding Russia. We are in effect beginning to cutting off oil to China.
Sound familar?
There has been a financial war going for years now, but you mean soldiers and planes and tanks and ships well yeah of course that is always the last resort of oilgarchs so you best go get your monie into your pocket or else they will start wrecking each other. But we can say no, if we are not reliant on government. Once again, the only way to do that is to be free from the chains of reliance, and that is the corporatocracy, and that is to...well, you know.
And yes we have been cutting off their oil for some time now, and a boiling point is approaching. The war would pit China, Russia, India, and Iran against...seriously, who would fight them. That is why I do not think the war makes it past the collapse of the dollar. The buildings will fall and we will all be welcomed to the second world.
Chinese Loral Missile Guidance Technology courtesy of Loral, BA and LMT and Ron Brown, Neutron Bombs courtesy of Bill Richardson and Sandia Labs, Attack subs, Stealth bomber and Aircraft carrier courtesy of more dupes, Chinese PhDs and Scholarships in Math and Science and Engineering courtesy of American Government University funding, Chinese trade surplus and jobs courtesy of Multinational Corps paying 6% of taxes, WTO negotiators directed by Bilderbugs, CFR and TriWays
I just admire the way the Chinese handle fradulent bankers and financiers - what's not to like about that?
What, they don't have a fiat currency, or fractional reserve banking in China?
Grab your popcorn, should be an exciting rest of the year.
Commodities #winning.
Soros and Brzezinski (read Rothschild, your master) supports China's calls for monetary reform aka BW3.
Ye be fucked, redneck scum.
All pre-arranged, political theater. The Chinese know what we are going to say, and theya are ready to repress as needed. We've got a better system - dissidents are just ignored and marginalized.
That doesn't sound so bad.
Ttroublehoff, I am certain that the god fearing christians who jukned you immediately fell to their knees to thank their creator for the opportunity to serve and to pray for your salvation.
all you Christian haters are scumbags :)
enjoy your anomie while it lasts
by ThisIsBobon Sun, 04/10/2011 - 14:58
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Ttroublehoff, I am certain that the god fearing christians who jukned you immediately fell to their knees to thank their creator for the opportunity to serve and to pray for your salvation.
How many rational people, given the freedom to make an informed choice, would chose a religion that is based on fear?
Why is it necessary for these 'Christians' (and I use the term extremely loosely) to 'fear' God?
fear=respect
Exactly. Told from your birth you are bad...a sinner...repent, fear. Why oh why WOULD anyone take this belief path? No thanks. Not for me. Never was, never will be. Amen.
Ahhhhh... China...
The facade that Jack Welch and Wallymart built.
Preaching to the U.S. about morality... it's like Hitler admonishing Stalin...
Remember my Chicom friend, you built your current confused Empire on American capital and American consumerism. Duplicating the American Empire with half the land and 4 times the people to keep happy, is a little difficult. No ?
Remember Confucius- He Who Rides the Tiger, Cannot Get Off.
Good Luck with that preaching morality thing.
LOL -- good points. There is plenty of blame to go around regarding governments and their disregard of human dignity. China just managed to do it on a larger scale.
A strange characteristic of Chinese culture is the tendency to deny responsibility or accept any blame for a problem. They refuse to acknowledge fault even when confronted with direct proof, and the typical response is to then blame the accuser. IOW, if you don't like the product or service, it's *your* fault!
I think we all will live in interesting times.
The difference is that China doesn't claim to be a beacon of democracy and human rights.
Kid me not. .. That is a subtlety US citizens do not seem to get.
Between a nation that has hijacked humanity, justifying actions in the so called human rights tied to human condition and other nations that have not made the same, it makes no difference.
And the other guy say that the Chinese can not take responsibility for what they have done. No matter how good they are in this department, they are miles away behind the US, that nation who proclaimed liberty as a human rights and managed to keep slaves at the same time. Talking about endorsing responsibility...
where you been hiding kayman hahaha
talk about an inconvenient truth
Question for $1,000,000:
- If China stops buying US treasuries following this report (they anyway planned to stop it long ago, because they begin to understand the effects of monetization on the value of the dollar -- the long rates are currently far too low to account for inflation)
What happens? :)
The USA become a third-world country, with no mean to maintain their military, and the Bernank monetization of everything accelerates with QE3 and QE4.
You forgot to add that if China stops buying Treasuries, the dollar tanks, and the US economy falls apart, the Chineses currency and economy also fall apart.
"You forgot to add that if China stops buying Treasuries, the dollar tanks, and the US economy falls apart, the Chineses currency and economy also fall apart."
This is precisely where you are wrong. This was true two years ago, because China pragmatically pursues its best interests -- and despite hating the US, as long as she makes money buying treasuries, she doesn't care.
But everything has changed with quantitative easing. They haven't stopped buying treasuries, but they have begun to reduce their purchases for several months now.
Their objective is to make the rates on treasuries coherent with inflation. And Bernanke refuses to let the rates go to market rates with QE.
Inflation in China is now very high, and they will have to choose between their price stability and their support of the US government.
They honestly don't care, at 15% annual inflation, if the US were to topple. They already own pretty good reserves, notably gold, and they will be able to buy very cheaply the US after their downfall.
That is one scenario -- China buys XYZ with their Yankee dollars -- and teaches ugly Americans a lesson in humility. Another, equally likely scenario, is that China falls into chaos and civil war, and the USA benefits dramatically as we regain our place as a low-cost manufacturing giant.
Which will happen? Damned if I know.
Manufacturing giant with what, sticks and stones?
The machines are mostly gone. Like Elvis, they have left the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx7fNQcJAjs 1:03
In other words, it's you belief that China will cut off its leg to spite its foot. You also believe that China (2 years ago) was willing to purchase Treasuries earning a real return of <0%, but will be unwilling to purchase Treasures earning some rate greater than that today or in the future. Am I the only one who sees a problem with this logic?
Your last statement shows the extent to which your logic is flawed. If the US were to topple, the entire world economy would collapse (the Americas, Europe, Asia, everywhere) and 15% inflation would be least of China's problems. This would put China's manufacturing base out of business.
Given that Treasury rates actually increased in response to QE2, the opposite could be true at its conclusion. With the Fed moving out, inflation fears will likely subside and foreign demand will almost certainly pick up. Of course, it could be argued that QE will not end in June, resulting in continued fears of inflation. But given that there is a growing group within the Fed that doesn't currently believe continuation of QE2 through June is necessary, it seems unlikely that we will see additional round(s) of QE.
I'm always amused how you can take the diatribes of the world's tyrants, switch the letterhead to "Office of Nancy Pelosi" and it still makes perfect sense, lol....
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/11/348949.shtml
Rather nippy out don't you chink? ... I'm sorry but that always made me laugh....
when did racism get funny again?
Oh, and to all the American chauvinists (who have yet to understand that their country is a shithole since the 1900s, not the image d'Epinal of the Wild and Free West): I feel far freer when I'm in China than in the US.
Chinese airports also don't enjoy to see you naked.
TGPonzi
I feel far freer when I'm in China than in the US.
All bought-and-paid-for Chicom Apologists would feel free in China.
Try posting a political thought on the street in China and see how quickly "street sweepers" pick you up.
Nazi party members always felt better when the SS was near.
Don't confuse the American people with the lying Political
Whores.
Actually, there is no discontinuity between the US citizens and their elite.
US politicians are just henchmen for the US People. US politicians do the dirty work, the wet work and the US citizens benefit from them.
Lies from the US govenment is not what prevents US citizens from enlisting in the US army in order to kill for fun easy targets in empoverished countries, getting benefits (free tuition, free healthcare, veteran status)
The US politicians do the dirty work, take the flak for it and the US citizens enjoy the benefits.
No discontinuity.
Again with this drivel?
In the US, freedom of speech as a threat to the power apparatus is an illusion. Why waste resources on protecting against a non threat?
Another point is that the US (and some others) are able and do destabilize other countries by arming weaker groups. Making those groups a danger to the local power apparatus. We are full in this scheme with Libya.
Speaking about two different situations: one, freedom of speech is an illusion and the other, groups can be empowered by foreign powers in order to destroy the local power apparatus.
Dont sell the US power apparatus extreme resilience as a victory of freedom of speech. It is everything but that.
YOU feel freer in China, because you are not a Chinese citizen. You are a guest, and so long as you do not stand up on a soapbox and start preaching on the street, you will be tolerated. The average Chinese citizen does not have the same rights as you in China, nor expects to have the leniency of officials that you enjoy. So if you admit that modern day China like the past splits its treatment: foreigners are treated well as to not give them a bad impression, and the people know not to step out of line, or there will be consequences. So, remember you feel safer and freer, etc etc because you are a GUEST in China. The second you become a CITIZEN I guarantee you you will lose that sense of safety and freedom. Modern China is a playground for you and other foreigners, but not for the average Chinese people.
And in the US, he was not? A native?
Leap in logics, leap in logics...
No, the point is, in the US he is a native, and is able to stand on a soapbox and rant about the government.
The US is turning into a police-state shithole. It certainly is in no position to lecture other countries about human rights. But China already is a police-state shithole. Not much of a difference to you, maybe, but it is to the rest of us.
(and no, diatribes about the US being founded on slavery make no odds here)
No diatribe, simple report of reality.
The fact is that the US's started in duplicity, double standards and all. It is nothing new. And they have kept on the trend.
The US has not changed one bit since their inception. Reminding their start is needed as so many love to rave about a fabled past where US citizens were not corrupted. Corruption does not exist in the US. For them to be corrupted, US citizens had to exist into another form. They never did.
US citizens are as duplicitous as their ancestors were. The US citizens nature is eternal.
I doubt this guy is a natural US citizen. That is why he was possibly a host in the US.
When a host in the US, people should be extremelly cautious in their criticism of the US. They could get a police experience they are not used to in their own country.
Meanwhile, here in San Francisco, another generation of Chinese has emmigrated to America, fleeing tyrrany, religeous persecution and seeking freedom, as Chinese Americans have for over 100 years.
San Francisco? Isn't there where total taxes are approximately 50%? They are lower in most China provinces.
TGPonzi
If you think you are right about China, try having a discussion in China about China.
Why say we would rather be in one country or another. Let's just make a difference where we are at. Nationalism is created through lies, everyone here knows that. Anyways, I wouldn't want to live in China for the simple reasons of plastic rice, melamine milk, all mixed together with a little Japanese radiation.
Why say we would rather be in one country or another. Let's just make a difference where we are at. Nationalism is created through lies, everyone here knows that. Anyways, I wouldn't want to live in China for the simple reasons of plastic rice, melamine milk, all mixed together with a little Japanese radiation.
Actually a lot of Chinese that fled here during the gold rush were killed or essentially enslaved.
There's a stream that feeds into the Snake River in the vicinity of Hell's Canyon where several dozen Chinese gold miners were massacred and robbed of their gold by White settlers in 1887.
http://gregnokes.com/slideShow.html
All your $USD are belong to us ...
ro shit!
The Chinese are full of shit. They blame lax guns laws on violent crime. Puleeze most gun crimes are commited by illegal guns. If the Chinese were allowed to own firearms the Communist governement would have been overthrown years ago. Second China should not talk about human rights abuse. Lets see:
Restrictions on Independent Organizing
Restrictions on Free Speech and the Media
Suppression of Religious Freedom
One Child Policy
Tibet
Discrimination against Rural and Ethnic Workers
No Due Process
Re education Camps
Labor Camps.
And many more,China will never be the next superpower because it is a paper tiger economically and militarily.China is overhyped and full of shit. Lets see building ghost cities with no one buying condos. High Inflation,and a nuclear real estate bomb which when it explodes will plunge the economy into a depression. I am not defending our federal govt because they commit crimes too(Waco,Ruby Ridge,Iraq,AfPak,Vietnam ect) but China sounds like a hypocrite.
Yes the Patriot Act is the biggest over reach in Federal Power but we do not live in a police state hell like China. We can repeal the Patriot Act by voting out those who support it.
Pretty much like the USofA,....eh!
the point was America is the hypocrite because China does not come out with its annual country human rights report saying everyone else is bad. The conclusion was fuck off with your report and mind your own business.
If the Chinese are full of shit, US citizens are what?
Only half full of shit.
Explain how.
The Chinese stand for the Chinese. They act on their own behalf.
The US have hijacked humanity and pursued their selfish interests under the cover of the socalled human rights.
As hard as they wish, the chinese attitude of responsibility did not give birth to things like dehumanization (which led to all the mass slaughters this concept led to since the US inception and that is a lot)
The US started the trend of dehumanization. They claimed the socalled human rights and had to redefine humanity in order to cover for their failures. If some human beings were not in their inalienable rights, it was not because of the US society as a failure but because those human beings were actually not human beings.
That is the US legacy to the world. Started from US inception and ongoing trend in the present.
Dont expect US citizens to stand their responsibility on this stuff. US citizens are naturally adverse to responsibility.
So yeah, how this makes US citizens only half full of shit...
Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden voted for Patriot Act in 2001 and are still in office.
So are most of the others
China needs to do this more often. Why take shit from US anymore, they should do whatever they want just like the US does.
Yes, because what the world really needs now is another marauding behemoth.
The US finally find their match,...China. Both are full of shit.
The chinese should understand human right report serves only to make USA population think it could be much worse, and to keep them from asking many questions about FED and its owners. No reason for Chinese to take it so seriously, and they should just keep buying those lovely "Treasuries"....
I wounder this kind a situation and counter clashes among these 2 super powers will couseanother world war soon i guess. I hope the general people should not suffer too much at the end of the day.
- Sandy
Ya.. image the day when the US can elect a black president...
China conveniently stepped over that one...
A black U.S. president ? You are confusing a Goldman puppet with a U.S. president.
Yes, they managed to elect the whitest black guy they could, who is a corporate whore. That's been quite an acheivement. They couldn't have found a more palatable black dude for the masses, unless they'd hired Alfonso Ribeiro to sit in the office as Carlton Banks. See if they hire a black guy that actually wants to champion black issues... how far would that get? <crickets>
black issues like what? Murder, mayhem, rape, and robbery?
There's a REASON why civilized people all over the world find the prototype "African American Male" to be threatening- it's because they ARE.
Just this one tiny segment of our population, about 6%, commits over half of our violent crimes, all by themselves. They rape the shit out of any race of woman...do white men? Nope. Interracial rape is a one-sided matter. The same is true for interracial killing and other violence. It is not racist to not identify with this, to want to be around it, or to be wary of it.
We Americans have always thought we are better than everyone else. The dollar as a reserve currency is nearing an end and we will be begging for help from countries like China, so we should shut the fuck up about human rights, it is apparent to everyone in the world that killing about a million people in Iraq gives us no high ground. We really can be a bunch of assholes
China critizing the US in human rights is like Stalin critizing Hitler on human rights.
This shit is really starting to look more like the WWE than anything else..Wait a minute, ugh, they wouldnt stage anything for a show would they?
It is laughable our department of state under either war-party even pretends to consider human rights... unless of course it's conducting humanitarian bombing.
Yeah but they cant even figure out who's on whose team...Shirts and skins people...
People would only believe the Chinesse if they began to tell the full truth.
Here are the flaws I found:
Domestic violence, it's actually nearly equal occurances according to less biased analysis. It's also faked by a lot of women. Men are guilty until proven innocent. Where I live, if a woman is at your home over night, calls the police claiming domestic violence at the man's home, he's hauled away, she can live there until evicted and essentially sell everything he owns. If you try to file a police report, the police say it's a civil issue. If you sue her, you don't have a good chance to win, your word against her (the supposed victim) and if you do win she doesn't have anything left.
Campus Shootings, I don't buy the frequent campus shootings at all, you don't hear about new ones weekly or monthly in your state!
Racial discrimination, against white american men? I see it more than ever, especially in government. Black americans? I see a whole lot of second chances given to people just because they are black. In the inner city many black americans speak out against their culture's attitudes and schemes. It's all about how people act. If you don't conform to a corporate or a boss' environment and do speak as the customers do, what makes you think you deserve to work for them? White american men in wall street and the banks are the most crooked and cost us the most though.
International Rights and Prision Abuses, these issues need to be addressed by leaving these countries alone while we focus on rebuilding america and eliminate any and all political parties democrat, republican, green, tea party, etc. As their absulte power corrupts abosultely. They are bought and paid for by banks, drugs makers, wall street, insurance companies and worst of all foreign nations.
China on the other hand. You're no better off than us other than slowly heading in the right direction by giving people more rights over time.
American companies are at the head of the pack in assiting the Chinese to repress their own citizens. I'm sure what they are learning from that will and is being applied stateside. American companies sold out their manufacturing capacity in the name of profit.
America as it was originally conceived is something to aspire to, and I can say that as a non-American. What America is today is something else entirely. I have no respect for what it is now. America instigates illegal wars of aggression for phony reasons. It truly is the biggest purveyor of violence in the world today.
Assisting? They are leading the dance. Not so long ago, the Chinese reveled in revealing that the majority of companies paying under the Chinese minimal wage were foreign corporations, including US corporations.
Calling out the US is too easy.
The US will not go into a hot war with China. Just as the US didn't get into a hot war with Brittan. China may go to war with some of Asia but the US will not. Much like the USSR in Vietnam.
China is speaking to a home audience. Beer muscles nothing more.
The kettles call each other black.
I do not like RED China at all- the dirty bastards killed my uncle at the Yangtze in 1951. I try not to buy their low quality crap. However the USA has become a virtual police state especially since 9-11. I dare any Americans to go into the street to protest. If it is anything like around here the police are such thugs they would love to bust some bones or more. So Hillery just needs to shut up, our house is not at all clean when it comes to human rights.
How do you think their low quality crap found its way into your local store? Did Chinese agents entrap Sam Walton with compromising photos of him and a Thai ladyboy in the 1980s, and force him to start importing all kinds of crap to sell in his stores? How did the Chinese government manage to brainwash all of these American companies to ship their manufacturing overseas? They must be truly diabolical.
Maybe but opportunistic is a better word, Hillary should have told Bill when he and the Repubs came out with that most favored trade thing, that ain't too smart Bill we will be competing with people that think $5 a day is a great wage?
Junk me Apple boys I don't care
+100 And the whole time China wasn't any human rights haven yet recieved most favored status. Hmm.
china makes most of the good quality power tools now. even the japanese name brands. also most cell phones are made in china. as well as computers. american small gas engines like briggs and stratton, are shit . even the chinese engines are better.I use porter cable tools, and they are now made in china, with no reduction in quality, but lower pricing, than competitors. hard to compete with that capacity. since we can't, the other route, is to destroy that capacity.
As soon as they laid Sam to rest, his family store began buying Chinese takeout
America needs more people like you.
Ummmm....... Looks like the Yellow Man wants to cut Uncle Sam's balls off with a hand razor...
China is right. Tell US to take their shit and shove it!
You are not a outlier on this topic on the trail of tears. I care for my mother inlaw whom is one of the Haynes and the point is that the oral tradition covers how her people where destoyed. Maggy as she was called, I had the honor to meet as I married Her granddaughter and she gave raised hand to bless us. Her grandmother survived the walk since and by God's grace alone survived since they fled into the wilderness from there own Government made up of people just like anyone else. I pray there is never another day since I am older now and I will not walk away. I will fight for the old and the young. The people are blind to there own eye and malachi warns us also the people will perish from famine of the word. Me and my house will only serve one. I who still have breath care for the very young and very old in my House. The yoke I wear is light and 70 times 7 and I will forgive my brother's. I will defend the people I care for and wish to be layed to rest were I fall if or when I have to on our land. As in life words to not convey what we must do since we see what they have done. I am a citizen and man who will look blood in the eye and walk away. Never must the people lay down there arms and never must the people raise them in anger. Never must we forget who wishes to take these things from us since you must opens your eyes but that is impossible with the seal in the forehead for who you serve. America must paddle it own canoe until your brother is in peril. never can words cover it all.....
Here hear
Bend over USA, the Chinese are going to fuck you over with no vaseline. its over for the USA. Stupid idiots running the USA.
If China is serious about stopping US hegemony, why did they not veto the Libya resolution in the UN ?
Oh, i forgot they also appreciate the rebel's oil, as they appreciate NATO protection of their mines in AFPAK.
Are you kidding? Our MIC budgets, our immoral and criminal use of MIC assure our self demise.
Why would they stand in the way?
For matter of responsibility. The UN is just an extension of the US, giving the US a blank check to intervene in other countries to pursue selfish interests on the behalf of the rest of the world. Big dilution of responsibility.
The Chinese have the approach that domestic issues have to be solved domestically.
You wont find them vetoing much UN intervention as they disagree with the UN principles.
The US, it is another story. Very selective use of veto by the US and big at that.
Here comes the road to US prosperity = Boycotting Chinese goods (i.e. Walmart), while raising Tariffs to pre-NAFTA highs, will help un-mothball US factories and put people to work. When China drops are dollar like a hot potato we would immediately move back to a Gold Standard..
Bring on the era of Protectionism and so called isolationism! For what would happen if we didn't, a World War ? Hell all we do is war, so that arugment is out the window.
Time is at hand boys and girls!
Sprinkle in some police corruption....
http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/
Here's one days worth...
National Police Misconduct NewsFeed Daily Recap 04-07-11 April 8th, 2011
Here are the 18 reports of police misconduct as tracked in our National Police Misconduct News Feed for this Thursday, April 7, 2011:
China could also have included all he extrajudicial killings by police for checkmate.
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/
Hu's buttboy Timmy Geithner has his Made in China kneepads on and is on his way to Bejing.
Funny
“””Some 90 million people own an estimated 200 million guns in the United States, which has a population of about 300 million, the report said citing figures from the public media.”””
This shows the high education/intelligence level of the spinsters in China. It also shows a sophisticated twist in blame shift.
However, If China really thinks that firearm ownership by the American population is a breech of human rights------ THEN they should have no objection to paying the US Government and the US Citizens a goodly sum of money (T Bills accepted) for each Chinamens made guns involved in a crime. After all the Chinese Military arsenals did manufacture almost all the SKS and AK rifles that are used in crime in the US and are very popular with the Mexican drug trade businessmen.
More AK 47s and 74s have been manufactured than any other firearm in history and the Chinese won the prize for making the most. They sold Chavez enough to arm all South America and then sold him a complete plant the make the things.
These full automatic (sub-machine guns) are exported by Chavez into Mexico to arm the Drug transportation companies and distributors. For those who are unaware, the rock and roll AK (auto) goes ratta tat tat, not bang, pause bang. Some of these may reach the US drug business men.
In that China has killed hundreds of thousands of humans with these weapons, they were well aware that they are unsafe and did knowingly sell them into the US for human usage.
China states that gun ownership is a breech of human rights. China is primarily responsible as the supplier. CHINA OWES US MONEY----- A BUNCH OF MONEY.
Haven't you heard the news?
The drug cartels are mostly armed with U-S weapons.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/2976/
let me quote at least this: "Mexican authorities have repeatedly complained that most of the weapons used by drug cartels there — including Barrett rifles — are coming from the U.S."
US citizens have several loves: they love duplicity, they love lying, they love their racism creed.
You broke this poster's enjoyment as he was so into his anti chinese diatribe.
US citizens have several loves: they love duplicity, they love lying, they love their racism creed.
You broke this poster's enjoyment as he was so into his anti chinese diatribe.
Someone remind me please, what is Chinese equivalent for ZeroHedge? And is there a Chinese Tea party that I haven't heard of and can the Economist and NYT report whatever they want? Ah, and I must have missed all these Chinese editions of Frontline...
ROTFLMAO...I can't believe that this diatribe is dignified by this debate here...
How many sovereign nations have China invaded in the last 50 years?
Korea, Spratly Islands, Tibet, Vietnam to start
You mean the Chinese are rich enough and not enough advanced in waste economy they can not afford wasting resources on non mattering speech expression?
If that could be true. ..
As for me, for the record, China is totally right. Daily, I find my self siding with/agreeing with China more and more. Senility? or is this fucking country's abhorrant domestic spying and police state tactics out-doing that of Fascist Germany?
I'm anxiously waiting for Obama's blow job on China's statement.
What has agreeing to do with that? You dont agree with facts. You admit facts. China quoting facts is no different that anyone else quoting facts.
China quoted facts as anyone else could have. This does not make those facts truer or falser. Facts are facts.
Maybe you would prefer to be a.chinese citizen then. The usa being this horrible country and all.
One cause people rush to the US is that outside the US, it is more and more legit for a US citizen to kill a non US citizen.
If you want to be protected from the US, from its foreign policy, the best place to be is the US.
Theater.
Don't the US and China do this slap fight every year?
It seems so, by the way whatever happened to the chinaman that used to comment here all the time? You remember the one that always tried to start trouble?
FatAssWilly?
Dunno, probably was executed for being ineffective.
Wow, China is really sticking it to the yanks.
"However, its democracy is largely based on money"
Well said.
Sure China have a poor "human rights" record, but they have no choice about the matter, the CIA is constantly trying to stir up revolution and they have a billion hungry people to feed. Food is more important to them then some abstract concept of freedom.
On the international side they are saints compared to the west. China is the future, we're going backwards technology wise while China are growing at nearly 10% a year. I just hope the US doesn't get sour and start nuking civilians AGAIN.