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China Lowers Weighting Of Surging Food Prices In CPI

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As we speculated earlier, China has just lowered the weighting of food in its CPI. The reason: the nearly 5% surge in food prices in the past 10 days. Turns out the US can still learn a thing or two about data manipulation from the Chinese...

From Dow Jones:

China has adjusted the weighting of the components making the consumer price index and lowered the weighting of food at the start of the year, the state-run China Securities Journal reported Tuesday, citing an unnamed official at the National Bureau of Statistics.

But the report quoted Xian Zude, chief statistician of the bureau, as saying that the new CPI statistical model will reflect changes in consumption and price levels more accurately, and won't result in a lower index reading.

The report came ahead of the release of January CPI data Tuesday morning. On Monday, state-run Xinhua News Agency quoted government economist Ba Shusong as saying that China's CPI for January may be lower than market expectations, without elaborating.

The median forecast in a Dow Jones Newswires survey of 12 economists was for January's CPI to have risen by 5.4% on year, up from December's 4.6% rise and November's 5.1% increase.

As a result of this pre-emptive manipulative action, expect to see a CPI lower than the 5.4% consensus when the number prints later tonight.

h/t LDT

 

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Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:21 | 961883 FOC 1183
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Who knew (ZH readers notwithstanding)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:37 | 961946 Thomas
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They've now caught the US.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:08 | 962053 MarketTruth
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"In honor of this massive overfulfillment of the ninth three-year plan... it's been announced that chocolate ration is to be increased to 20 grams per week!" -- 1984 Movie 

(Hint for those who never saw the movie: It was 30 grams a week before the announcement.)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:31 | 962324 Dr. Sandi
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I'm waiting for the book to come out.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:14 | 963193 Duck
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U.S. Food and beverage weighting is 14.8% NOT the 7.8% claimed in ZH post the other day.  7.8% is for food consumed at home; Americans like to eat out.  ZH should expose manipulative data claims in any direction, not just ones that support the local narrative.  Credibility.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:23 | 961891 mynhair
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That bad, huh?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:28 | 961908 Racer
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Crowds and Power by Elias Canetti (http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/ecanetti.htm)

 

and it is old news

THE CROWD

A STUDY OF THE POPULAR MIND

 

http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=BonCrow.sgm&images=image...

 

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:31 | 961924 alien-IQ
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and the ponzi goes full retard.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:33 | 961934 Weimar Ben Bernanke
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MMMM plastic rice is the shit.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:40 | 961942 mynhair
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but rubber pancakes are the cat's meow!

Crap, rubber is way up, too.

Crap, free State rubbers are gonna cost more.

Crap, my taxes are still going up.

Crap, they still make Lexan.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:35 | 961939 jtmo3
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Score another one for the turd in the Treasury. He's shown the Chinese the way. Give them our country and then our ethics. And I thought the Chinese were smarter than that.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:38 | 961949 mynhair
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Oooh, a slight misuse of 'Turd'.  Ferg is in the Treas scoping out gold holdings.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:39 | 961957 Bob
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Holy Shit, good call!  Inside info????

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:41 | 961964 mynhair
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Just another ZH miracle.  Haven't seen a miss in 18 months.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:10 | 962058 Bob
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Yeah, but that was, what, a 24 hour turnaround?  That's eerie.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:40 | 961963 b_thunder
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Nothing new here.  For decades the Chinese have been copying western "inventions."

So now they've simply copied the US Bureau of Labor Statistics' (BLS)  way of  "fixing" the CPI:  Weighting. 

On deck:  hedonics and substitution.

 

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:45 | 961979 Fred Hayek
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Hedonics.

Because a suit bought in 2011 has 20% more features and value than a suit bought in 2010 and so its higher price should be knocked down to reflect that.

 

 

 

 

 

 (and to hide inflation)

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:53 | 962005 Dapper Dan
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Fred, Crash Course by Chris Martenson?  If not see link for more eye opening info.

http://www.chrismartenson.com/

 

 

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:42 | 961968 cougar_w
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And ... PROBLEM SOLVED!

What was I worried about? Damn they really are the smartests guys in the room. Massive bonuses and Bang Dae-Ho all around.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:44 | 961971 Fred Hayek
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Only a corrupt totalitarian country would intentionally understate the pricing of such a basic item as food in its official statis-

What?

Oh.

Never mind.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:03 | 961978 mynhair
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O/T, but I am all in favor of taxing your offspring, and theirs, for my benefit now.

If you were stupid enough to have kids, that is.

Never voted a Dim in my life.  Name one that was worth a crap.

There actually is one, but you numbnuts will never get it.  And I never voted for him.

Really need a Fight Club thread daily.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:47 | 962365 perchprism
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That's easy---Zell Miller.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 23:33 | 962483 UncleFester
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Bring back the duel!  Buy, buy, buy TFD...no wait, Zell, Zell, Zell!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:45 | 961980 dark pools of soros
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but if everyone lies.. isn't that the new truth??

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:50 | 961994 mynhair
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Works for CNBS, I guess.  They are still on cable.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 23:33 | 962487 UncleFester
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I think you are ready for a Ministry of Truth promotion.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:52 | 962001 jmc8888
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I wonder how many 'news' outlets will not notice the change in methodology and just report whatever number appears. 

Those that do, will of course downplay it and compare it to our fucked up underweighting and probably call it, modernizing. 

Yes because their's is different and less rigged against reporting inflation than ours, it is not accurate.  Because they are aligning more along the lines of the world standard, this is good for the markets. 

Expect this sort of bullshit to be spouted by the talking heads, again if they don't completetly miss the boat about the methodology change.

Thanks ZH for once again setting the standard that the others, even with added time, will still fail to approach.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:04 | 962042 mynhair
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'news outlet'

There goes the keyboard again, if a '1' is missing later, no worries.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:54 | 962006 steve from virginia
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The Chinese have been cooking their books since they invented books.

What's with the GDP numbers?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 20:57 | 962016 Misean
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When food costs more people eat less. As they eat less they loose weight and even lesser. So, it makes sense that food is weighted less as it goes up in price. And the food packages weigh less too. Man, this ebbublegnomics stuff is easy.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:01 | 962029 cougar_w
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When food costs more people eat each other. It's a self-limiting problem, not worthy of serious discussion by people with more important things to ponder like derivative pricing and forex crosses.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:05 | 962044 mynhair
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but we are felines, and hence allowed to eat humans.  You are federally protected!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:06 | 962045 Misean
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Fewer people chasing an increasing number of corpses is deflationary!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:07 | 962047 mynhair
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Soylent Green has an input loss amount, don't ferget.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:40 | 962135 papaswamp
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Zombies?!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:47 | 962159 Misean
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No, that's an increasing number of corpses chasing a number of screaming humans, which is inflationary. But zombies are brain dead, so they believe the BlS numbers.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 08:02 | 962930 whatz that smell
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headonics, bitchez!

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:02 | 962030 London Banker
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Excellent Michael Pettis piece up that suggests that depressed consumption as a share of the Chinese economy, along with decades of bank excess and malinvestment, could mean a long Japanese-style correction as the Chinese economy rebalances.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/08/19/china_s_japanese_future...

Especially given what's happened in Egypt, the Chinese elites are going to be hard squeezed to maintain their subsidies at the cost of wage growth.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:11 | 962061 BlackSea
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A communist economy never rebalances orderly - it implodes and is triggers major revolts.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:15 | 962073 hardcleareye
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Thanks for the link I enjoy reading Pettis' work.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:02 | 962033 NOTW777
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battle of manipulators

who s the biggest liar

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:06 | 962043 55mph
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I love this story.  Do you think US news correspondents will draw any paralells?   

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:07 | 962051 mynhair
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No.  And you and I are cut off.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:10 | 962057 mynhair
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Why don't you people rate the articles?  3 votes.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:25 | 962089 farragut
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For what it's worth, this move was mentioned in an Aussie journal in April 2010 (1st link) and mentioned in the WSJ in Sept 2010 (2nd link):

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/China-to-raise-reside...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870394650457546909237962528...

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:43 | 962146 Alienated Serf
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thanks for the links

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:31 | 962106 vas deferens
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Fried pussy cat with egg roll, rice and a salty tea bag up 7% this year.  

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:32 | 962111 Hephasteus
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Data massage with an unhappy ending?

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:35 | 962117 Lapri
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And big, 20lb bags of rice disappeared from Safeway....

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:41 | 962144 NOPOMO
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Ben better get his finger off the print button before someone puts their finger on the nuke button.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 21:57 | 962199 tellsometruth
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neato...what an amazing trick... it would be more effective though if they just stopped  releasing it because it is too difficult to compile data like M3 in US

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:01 | 962208 LostWages
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They just got confused with the price of Rapes going up.  Counted the wrong ones.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:10 | 962240 mee-mee-mee
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thanks for that link. good one.

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:11 | 962243 SDRII
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cant wait to read the andy xie analysis

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:16 | 962259 PulauHantu29
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"If it Doth offend Thee, cut it out."

Mon, 02/14/2011 - 22:22 | 962291 PeterSchump
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I would think that the Chinese were advanced enough at this point that they would not need to copy the U.S. anymore.  I guess the U.S. is still the leader in finacial innovation.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 00:15 | 962580 Trifecta Man
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I guess I should keep my Chinese food stocks.

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 02:48 | 962783 ebworthen
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The really are learning new tricks.

What's next, establishment of left and right political parties and "elections"?

They will need a core of University media types railing against the right and a cadre of mad men type capitalist banksta's railing against the left to keep their sheeple busy for 50 years or so; inversely proportional to literacy and # of tweets and facebuk pages of course...

 

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 05:40 | 962877 Sudden Debt
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INFLATION PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

 

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 07:45 | 962920 wazoo
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To see the impact of the reweighting CPI numbers have to be quoted to two decimal places. So, with the old weights CPI would have been up 4.94%.

Wow some significant data manipulation there chaps.....

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 08:14 | 962944 whatz that smell
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Man ties machine on day 1 of "Jeopardy!" showdown

......the machine drew snickers from the audience when it answered "hu is bullshit?" to the clue: "china's cpi beats expectations again"

Tue, 02/15/2011 - 11:03 | 963392 Stuck on Zero
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China now officially weights food at 350 calories a day per person for their CPI.

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