China Sells Long-Term Bonds In October As Foreign Inflows Moderate, Fed Untouchable At Top Of US Paper Holders List

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Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:00 | 807865 Spalding_Smailes
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Ho hum ... Gold has traded sideways since oct 20th, but yet US Steel is up 2-3 % already today, 26% in 4 weeks .....

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:07 | 807891 tmosley
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Captain Hindsight!  What should we have done!?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:10 | 807904 Spalding_Smailes
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I have been tell you all to buy US Steel since I bought at 44$ ....Lol' Come on TMosley you must have seen a post on US Steel over the last 4 weeks ....


Hindsight ..... Nope. Ride the wave .... Lol'

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:16 | 807928 tmosley
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I wonder when you will wish that you sold?  I'll stick with the deflation in terms of PMs trade, thanks.

Political risk can be a bitch.  I don't even own miners right now.

At least you're not holding dollars.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:37 | 808018 Spalding_Smailes
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Sell some gold and buy (ZEUS) ...... another industrial play.

Dont tell me in 2 months I called this in hindsight. Its going to roll .....

Also I'm not anti- gold per say. Just dont keep all your cash in gold, take some out and hedge your bet. Buy a few stocks. I like the industrials in the USA they are launching lows. Cat mining is on fire & machine shops slammed in Chicago, suppliers of metal (ZEUS) have very low inventory, big plus for US Steel ...ect...

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:21 | 807953 spartan117
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But, but, but... what if you bought at $180 back in 2008???  You're still down 70% if you bought during its peak. 

ECU Silver is up near 100% in the same timeframe as your X, btw.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:28 | 807983 potatomafia
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HAHAhaha, now THATS funny!!!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:43 | 808035 spartan117
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Too bad he didn't get it.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:30 | 807996 Spalding_Smailes
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I didn't, I bought at $44 will sell over $80. Book it. 2 years with of gold gains in a matter of months .....


Thats why those "S&P has not done a thing in 10 years....." or "gold up 20% per year since ....... " mean very little. Today is a new day.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:37 | 808016 tmosley
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What do you do if it doesn't make it?  Price controls aren't all that far away.

Political risk is a bitch.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:42 | 808037 Spalding_Smailes
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Just have some fun with 20% of your cash. US Steel is going over 70-100. With the dollar weak this also brings in machining work from all over the globe. Our shops are world class & becoming more competitive because of the forex trade.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:08 | 808137 EscapeKey
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Yawn. Another internet billionaire who only makes right calls.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:36 | 808204 Spalding_Smailes
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Look um up babe. RIMM at 42(sold at 48 & the rest at 55), US Steel at 44( I will sell at 80 & 100)..... Buy ZEUS also we will talk in 8-12 weeks.


I called US Steel real fucking early. You can still jump on it for an easy 30-50% ....


DECEMBER 15, 2010,-------Joy Global Inc.'s fiscal fourth-quarter earnings rose 18% as the heavy-duty mining-equipment company benefited from a weaker dollar, stronger margins and a surge in bookings.

For the new year, the company projected per-share earnings of $5 to $5.30 on revenue between $3.9 billion and $4.1 billion.

Makers of mining equipment have seen an uneven commodity rally this year. Joy Global in September said it viewed the global mining sector as in the early stages of a multiyear expansion. At the time, company executives saw a slowdown in demand as temporary, stressing that commodity prices remained strong and customers' interest in new equipment hadn't fallen off in recent months.

For the quarter ended Oct. 29, Joy Global reported a profit of $146.3 million, or $1.39 a share, up from $124 million, or $1.20 a share, a year earlier. The prior year included a $6 million gain related to its prior reorganization efforts. Revenue rose 8.9% to $1.05 billion.

Gross margin rose to 37.9% from 32.4%.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:01 | 807869 Confused Indian
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Tyler, dont you ever give up?

I mean Aren'tyou fed up with "the fed". We cant beat them. These numbers make no sense to them and they dont bother at all.


Then, why?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:06 | 807880 jus_lite_reading
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I don't know either. Until the world experiences a 1779 moment, nothing will change. The banks will rob the people with help from the gov'ts.


Amazingly, London is the fishiest place on earth- all bond traders know that. ME buyers with support ffrom the Fed

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:06 | 807885 plongka10
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Tyler bears witness to the atrocities being perpetuated against humankind. More power to him in his quest to shine light into dark places.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:03 | 807874 Tense INDIAN
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i found this person very good with his analysis before.....and he is saying that the SHIT-WILL_HIT_THE_FAN   now anytime......he was one of the guy who warned the bears this year when everybody thought stocks will be down by September hes saying its game over:------>>>

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:04 | 807875 KickIce
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This link gives a very good explanation to what China is doing.


But not to worry folks, we have Ben and Timmy.



Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:05 | 807878 wiskeyrunner
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We are all going to be slaves when all is said and done. The next step is to put someone like Bloomberg as president. When that happens the Federal Reserve will have one of it's own in the White House. All this heat Bloomberg press created on the Federal Reserve  with it's request for information is simply a ploy. This nation is being overrun with money worshipers. 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:14 | 807921 Confused Indian
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going to be?

You must be joking.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:08 | 807897 sushi
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Interesting data.

My initial take on the Chairman's actions was that he was imposing some crazed plan of his own design derived from his deep understanding of the 1930's.


Reading this data it becomes clear that the Fed had to step up and buy as there were few others with interest. The Fed had no choice but to buy, buy, buy.


Not sure anyone has worked out the end game. Once they own all the outstanding US debt and have bought Ireland, and Spain, what happens then?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:12 | 807912 Caviar Emptor
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The end game? We're in it: fully committed to insanity. Fully on the path to destruction of the middle class and preservation of holy banks at all costs. Political repression to be dispensed as needed to support the farce, including secret police if needed in the future.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:10 | 807900 lsbumblebee
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Free-market orchestra conductors have been attempting for the last several weeks to lure long-term bond money into equities and away from precious metals. It's sad really.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:09 | 807901 Caviar Emptor
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The Fed Perpetual Motion Machine needs a bit more oil. Quick, someone, get some oil!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:10 | 807903 Teddy Turner
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Why does the chart not show domestic holdings?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:12 | 807915 Confused Indian
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I am reay to partly sponsor anyone who offers to drop the bomb over next FOMC meeting.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 14:37 | 808720 merehuman
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We have some excellent US Army sniper teams. Will they see the domestic enemy?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:17 | 807932 Fortunes Favor
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If the Fed is the top paper holder than we all need to be the top Gold holders.

The Three Phases of Every Secular Bull Market in Gold – By Gary Rosenthal

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:18 | 807934 Midwest Prepper
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The maniacal laughter in this video says it all...

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:17 | 807936 Jupiter
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If I had bought back in 1998 and sold it in 2000, I wouldn't be writing this post.


Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:23 | 807958 bobert
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I used to get bothered by George W. Bush's

$150-200B annual deficits. $1.5T annual deficits

was previously unfathomable to me. Yet here we

are three years running at this level (including fiscal year

2010/11). I've lost track of the bailouts, and

handouts. Anyone have a quick recap of where

the extra $1Trillion is being spent each year?

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:24 | 807964 mark mchugh
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81.6 Billion in revisions, if I read that right.  Does that concern anyone besides me?

I really am confused.  Do most people?

a) Think our Treasury auctions are real and legit.

b) Know our Treasury auctions are completely fictitious.

c) Not give a rat's ass where the money comes.



Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:48 | 808295 ATTILA THE WIMP

I'm down for B and C.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:26 | 807977 Jake3463
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Watched Morning Joe this morning.  They kept talking about the tax cut/ Stimulus 2 would all come from borrowed money from China.  Kept thinking, nope it will be printed out of thin air and the price of gasoline will be $5 this time next year.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:53 | 808082 financeguru500
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People who think we still get money from China are simply retarded. They are riding the mass media train and singing with their tune. It is easier to demonize China than to realize we are creating our own problems and borrowing from ourselves.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:42 | 808267 Jake3463
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Well on trade tactics there is plenty to demonize.

Of course we have legal ways to combat those and penalize those.

Americans choose ignorance.  I did myself till the financial crisis when it suddenly dawned on me that my function as an auditor and one with financial compliance experience was totally irrelevant because the government would punish no wrong doing anyway.


Gas hits $5 a gallon Americans will want some explanation.  It should be entertaining if it is speculators and not inflation as the culprit. 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:17 | 808174 spekulatn
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According to pragcap, Gundlach feels the US is headed toward deflation in the next 2 years. Buy bonds, sell stocks.


I'm so confused.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:36 | 808477 wiskeyrunner
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Thats the intent. 

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:22 | 808198 DaveyJones
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so the bankers really DO own the government

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:47 | 808285 Hard1
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By far the most important thing happening in the world financial markets is that China wants out of it's 900 bln UST trade and the only one whe can accomodate that in their book happens to be the Fed.

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 13:41 | 808494 TruthInSunshine
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To anyone who thinks they will own more US Bonds than The Bernank, a message from the Chairman:

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 14:33 | 808708 g3h
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There are some savvy fund managers in China.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!