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On China's Overhyped Export Boom And The Upcoming Deflation

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Today's early market exuberance (which did nothing but provide various FX arb opportunities during the day), was largely attributed to the news that China's export economy is surging. Alas, even a brief read between the lines indicates that this should have been fully priced in. The reason is very simple, as our friend Thermidor explains:

There's no surprise that Chinese exports are reported to be up 50% as they just follow US imports (see attached)....

 

But unfortunately US import data lags the ISM import question and that's rolling (attached). Therefore, these are almost certainly the highs for Chinese export growth and its worth noting that's even before we see the true effect of the Eurozone crisis.

The headline experts (as in people who know how to read headlines and nothing else good), starting with CNBC, willing to spin any data point that comes "better than the Apocalypse case scenario" managed to sucker the few last remaining idiot money holders. Unfortunately for them, the markets' close at the day's lows confirmed that saying about what happens to a fool and their money.

Yet another more relevant observation from our friend, is that the macro environment is about to turn a whole lot nastier, courtesy of an imminent full blown deflationary episode.

I'm definitely in a charting mood today. So I thought I'd send you this, it's the pricing question from the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) survey, which was out a couple of days ago vs. US YoY CPI.

Unfortunately, it suggests that we are clearly heading for full blown deflation with CPI likely to fall to -0.75% YoY. Now it's possible that the NFIB number bounces but they'd have to go a hell of a long way and over the last 25 years of data CPI appears to follow the survey. I think its worth pointing out that in the recession of 89-91 CPI initially diverged from the NFIB only to collapse.

As readers know well, Zero Hedge is always amused by various dataset divergences: these tend to eventually collapse (although, unlike LTCM we are unwilling to bet $10 billion levered ten times, in other people's money, on this happening). Of course, if deflation is unavoidable, there are two outcomes: a market collapse, or the Bob Janjuah proposed Ben-Bernanke-German-built-nuclear-armed-submarine (bazooka is so 2008) scenario of printing up another $5 trillion. Since Bernanke will never let the former happen as long as he is in charge (thank you Senators), the second is merely a question of time. Also, should this be announced tomorrow, we expect the 96 thousand speculative net EUR short contracts currently outstanding to line up in orderly fashion as they proceed to calmly cover their long USD exposure. Or not.

 

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Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:47 | 404367 centerline
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BB locking-in the launch codes already.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:49 | 404374 peripatetic86
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Bernanke is in charge?  Are we sure about that?  More likely he is the staff commander left to deliver the policy directives to the victims.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:54 | 404381 Howard_Beale
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You obviously missed his testimony this morning. Things are looking great! Double dip highly unlikely.

Reminds me of Spring 2007--BB didn't see any problems in subprime.

New name: Ben B'ostrich Bernanke, when 2 B's simply aren't enough.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:58 | 404399 faustian bargain
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The situation is fully contained.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:03 | 404412 mikla
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Gunpowder burns very politely also ... until it is fully contained.  ;-))

Once you compress it, even a little (like inside a simple paper sheath), its burning becomes quite explosive.  ;-))

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:11 | 404573 JohnG
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To the planet formerly known as Earth, which is currently being torched.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:37 | 404647 thisandthat
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The containment, however, isn't fully situated.

 

situated
Adjective

  1. Located in a specific place.
  2. Supplied with money or means.
Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:53 | 404384 DeweyLeon
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"...there are two outcomes: a market collapse, or the Bob Janjuah proposed Ben-Bernanke-German-built-nuclear-armed-submarine (bazooka is so 2008) scenario of printing up another $5 trillion."

It will be the latter and then the former.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:58 | 404394 Howard_Beale
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Try both at the same time. It's entirely possible. One word: Argentina

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:10 | 404421 centerline
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Yep. Just need to make sure there is enough explosive to do the job. $5 trillion is probably enough. Really sucks to blow the place and have wounded survivors laying around. Gets really messy. They tend to grip onto thier remaining assets pretty hard. More difficult to pry them away.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:58 | 404698 masterinchancery
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Reminiscent of Churchill's comment about Chamberlain,"given a choice between dishonor and war, he chose dishonor, he'll get war."

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 20:05 | 404831 Fred Hayek
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Awesome quote. 

Churchill had so many good ones.  I love the one that apparently took place at some high society party at which Winston had freely imbibed adult beverages and some prudish matron gasped disgustedly, "Sir Winston!  You're drunk."

To which he supposedly replied, "Yes, madame.  And you are ugly.  But tomorrow I'll be sober."

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 21:38 | 404970 gerriek
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On good quotes: I have to share this one!

Australian General Cosgrove was interviewed on the radio recently.
Read his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children.
Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you have to love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time.

In a portion of an ABC radio interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about
to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military Headquarters.



FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
!
We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL COSGROVE:
I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.



FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL COSGROVE:
Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?


The radio cast went silent for 46 seconds and  when it returned, this interview was over. 

 

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 16:55 | 404391 homersimpson
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Actually here's a better version of Bernanke:

http://beyondasiaphilia.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/better_tomorow_1.jpg

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:04 | 404410 Sudden Debt
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Tyler, Earnst & Young made A VERY GOOD POINT against this.

There are many companies "selling" goods and "exporting" these and after 1 or 2 months, these products are booked back in as "retours".

The EU is actually starting to investigate this practise and has already put some companies under investigation.

I heard this of the controler because I organised a right of full retour for products in my shops with my suppliers, and when this is seen in your books you risk a investigation.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:19 | 404443 Ragnarok
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Retours? Is that like trying to return once-used swimwear?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 22:43 | 405106 StychoKiller
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This sounds like something a MiniScribe CEO would think up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniScribe

"I notice you have building 2 and building 4, what happened to building 3?"

"We shipped it, brick by brick!"

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:04 | 404415 Muir
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"Also, should this be announced tomorrow, we expect the 96 thousand speculative net EUR short contracts currently outstanding to line up in orderly fashion as they proceed to calmly cover their long USD exposure. Or not. "

priceless

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:10 | 404422 Rick64
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Hugh Hendry in China last year. Empty buildings, unfinished projects, and bankrupt developers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ektMQGbW3wk

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 01:29 | 405307 Temporalist
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Why a Rising Dollar Is Horrible News for China

"In his most recent commentary, Hendry implies you better watch this chart..."

http://www.dailywealth.com/1377/Why-a-Rising-Dollar-Is-Horrible-News-for...

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 15:17 | 406707 Rick64
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I think its part of the plan to make China float their currency.

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:24 | 405971 Chupacabra
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Thanks for the link

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:21 | 404448 StarvingLion
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July 2010 copy of Hustler has an article entitled: 'The Federal Reserve for Dummies: Its a Pyramid Scheme that could destroy America' by that chick Ellen Brown who wrote the mediocre book 'Web of Debt'.

What is this world coming to when hardcore smut mags are demanding an audit of The Fed?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:58 | 404695 Celsius
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"What is this world coming to when hardcore smut mags are demanding an audit of The Fed?"

smutiocrity

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 11:26 | 405978 Chupacabra
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No surprise, really, Larry is quite the libertarian and just loves to thumb his nose at the establishment (my kinda guy).  Remember awhile back when he defended the First Amendment in his own special way?  He's not afraid to step up, G*d bless his smutty little heart.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:26 | 404460 ghostfaceinvestah
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Two huge things working against Chinese exports:

1) The Euro.

2) Their slaves are starting to wake up and demanding a living wage.

China is going to have to find a new solution, because their merchantilist ways aren't going to carry them for very much longer.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:34 | 404474 Poofter Priest
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I have no faith in China's data.

Last year (if my memory is not failing miserably once again) I saw a chart that spanned up to 2008.

It was a comparative chart of GDP to power usage. 2008 showed a similar growth to previous years but yet only half the power consumption.

Either they got 'real good' at progressive manufacturing techniques or somebody is telling a fib.

Hmmmm, let me guess......

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:01 | 404541 delacroix
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the reduction, wasn't half, but it was substantial

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 22:00 | 405017 Iam_Silverman
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Maybe they just turned off all of the lights at the Olympic venues when everyone left?

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:49 | 404509 Amsterdammer
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These Chinese figures are completely BS, I

hope we get some news from M.Pettis.

Maybe they include the exporting of Chinese

workers ´outsourced´ to Africa to continue

their stealing efforts over there...

 

 

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 17:50 | 404514 ozziindaus
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Inventories are also up. 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103396584

Can't exactly book the sale until the money is in your hand.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 19:41 | 404799 Double down
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Where have you been?:) Revenue recognition is sophistry at its best.  

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 18:33 | 404637 StarvingLion
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Who needs nations (aka relationship banking) when these fucking banking vermin want risk free profits via securitization. This is supposedly the solution Mervyn King is considering:

"There is a better way to restore trust in our financial system and get our economy rolling than by having Uncle Sam pledge always to clean up the mess, which he can’t actually do. The better way is not to let the mess happen to begin with. As indicated above, this alternative reform is called  limited purpose banking (LPB). It’s a simple and very low-cost change to our financial system, which limits banks to their legitimate purpose, namely connecting (intermediating between) borrowers and lenders and savers and investors. The costs of limited purpose banking are negligible for a good reason. The reform builds off the existing mutual fund industry, which has been functioning very smore than half a century. It also dramatically rationalizes nd simplifies financial regulation.

Under limited purpose banking, all

banks—all financial and insurancecompanies with limited liability (e.g., C-corps, S-corps, LLPs) that re engaged in financial intermediation—would operate as  pass-through mutual fund companies, which sell mutual funds—safe as well as risky collections of securities. That is, the banks would simply function as middlemen. They would never themselves own financial assets or borrow to invest in anything except those specific assets, such as computers, office furniture, and buildings, needed to run their mutual funds’ operations. Hence, banks would never be in a position to fail because of ill-advised financial bets. No-risk banking? Yes, no-risk banking. Intermediation requires no risk taking whatsoever. And we’ve just had an object lesson in what happens when you let intermediaries gamble—they can go broke, andin the process drive the country broke. With limited purpose banking, financial intermediation never breaks down. Moreover, we the people are never leveraged, and consequently never subjected to “economicblackmail,” as FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair puts it."

"Jimmy Steward is Dead: Ending the Worlds Financial Plague with Limited Purpose Banking"

Laurence J. Kotlikoff (Wiley @ 2010)

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 21:55 | 405005 boeing747
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Their CPI even doesn't including House Cost while their housing prices tripled in last few years. Maybe we shall sell US and Sino accounting books in Comic section. Tales of G2.

Wed, 06/09/2010 - 22:07 | 405025 Iam_Silverman
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"Unfortunately, it suggests that we are clearly heading for full blown deflation"

I have been hearing a lot about deflation, yet I really haven't seen it in my everyday purchases.  Food has actually gone up (with the exception of milk), and the cost of everything else my wife and I purchased at all of our stops has increased in price too.

Not trying to be contrarian, but where is the deflation?  Other than housing - are there segments where you can measurably show lowering asking prices for a commodity or service?

Thu, 06/10/2010 - 06:08 | 405486 Clancy
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Deflation would be a godsend to everyone who earns RMB.

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