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Chinese Gold Imports Surge By 500% Through October

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Thu, 12/02/2010 - 11:56 | 771762 hugovanderbubble
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Multi trade idea:

Long gold 1.392 till 1.450

Long Silver till 31$

Short EUR/USD till 1.2670

Long DUG till oil hits 80$


Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:17 | 771872 hugovanderbubble
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200 MA in SPX500 acting as resistance

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:00 | 771777 Spigot
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My personal thanks to China for helping me to achieve my financial goals via gold. I will send you a Chinese New Years card as a token of my appreciateion.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:19 | 771884 High Plains Drifter
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Do you think the gold bull will ever end?  Myself, I say no. How can it end? For it to end, would mean that the bankers would be doing the right thing. Will they ever do the right thing? Nope. End of story.  Maybe Douchinger is buying gold now, (out of the money of course) ha ha .

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:21 | 773018 midtowng
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The gold bull will end one day. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. All bull markets eventually end, so you should figure out ahead of time what it would take for you to sell.

I'm waiting for Mister and Miss Joe Sixpack to line up in front of coin stores to buy bullion.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 23:54 | 774202 l1xx3r
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I agree with you, when all my neighbours are begging for gold and silver, I will trade my gold and silver for their houses.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:25 | 771915 hugovanderbubble
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gold 1.400 coming baby¡¡'¡¡¡

and funny equity completly travested¡¡¡¡

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:27 | 771924 LeBalance
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The "spank you vedy much" token is a Fortune Cookie. (get w/ the program).

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 23:23 | 774152 StychoKiller
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Confucius say:  "Golden rock always crush paper Gold!"

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:37 | 771961 GNH
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No mention of the headline today -- thought ZH would be all over this (maybe I missed it?).

Hong Kong gold market hit by sophisticated scam
Hong Kong goldsmiths have been sold hundreds of ounces of fake gold this year in one of the most sophisticated scams to hit the Chinese territory’s gold market in decades, the FT reports. Industry executives say the scam - while not massive and hitting only the retail sector - uncloaks the increasingly elaborate gold swindles perpetrated by criminals in Asia as bullion prices soar to record highs of $1,400 a troy ounce.




Thu, 12/02/2010 - 13:15 | 772131 SilverRhino
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From your article

In one case, executives discovered a pure gold coating that masked a complex alloy with similar properties to gold. The fake gold included a significant amount of bullion – about 51 per cent of the total – alloyed with seven other metals: osmium, iridium, ruthenium, copper, nickel, iron, and rhodium.


The complexity of the latest batch of fake gold would have reduced the profitability of the scam, since it used a significant amount of bullion, and because iridium and osmium are expensive.

Someone's got a GOOD materials science guy on the bad guy's team.

Melting / Boiling points

Gold - 1604/2807
osmium - 3045/5027
ruthenium - 2250/3900
copper - 1083/2567
nickel - 1453/2732
iron  - 1535/2750
rhodium - 1966/3727

Cant imagine WHY they would do this for such low profit margin.  Hell I'd call it some variant of 12K gold and market it at a premium.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:26 | 773029 midtowng
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That's a lot of trouble to go through. It's much easier to fake bars than bullion.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:05 | 771795 truont
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Of course gold will go into a parabolic blow off top move at some point.

Real estate did.

Internet stocks did.

The mere fact that gold will be one day in a bubble does not mean you do not ride it up.

It just means that you have an exit plan, so you don't get left holding the bag.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:13 | 771858 scatterbrains
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actually I think JPM will help contain any blow offs with a nice gradual sustainable increase while they fight their losing battle against the trend.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:21 | 771899 High Plains Drifter
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Yes we always hear things like this. But what we are seeing has never been seen. What is happening has never happened. Parabolic top? What would it really mean? In the end, the sheep will all go in the direction of PM's and finally maybe, in that time, such stand by attributes such as supply and demand actually will start coming into play.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:25 | 771909 Yardfarmer
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and where do we go after the collapse of fiat and the "parabolic blow off top" of gold? back to tallysticks? gold and silver are here to stay for a long, long time.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:31 | 771937 LeBalance
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Gold is a limited resource, it can not be duplicated to infinity.

Say it again.

Say it again.

The two infinitely duplicatable commodities that you quote and similar ones CAN and WERE duplicated beyond the Demand level.

This is very very easy stuff.  I hope you get it.

FOFOA and predecessors FOA/A for your advanced class in Gold Fu.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:45 | 772009 Dr. No
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The FED can kill this rally any time they want.  They have done it in the past and one day, when things are bad enough, will do it again.  I own gold but recognize they FED holds alot of cards I wont get too carried away.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:13 | 772994 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Fed can kill the rally by raising interest rates which will make government debt unserviceable which will lead to default or additional printing from thin air which will re-establish the rally and push it to the moon.

Ya know?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:22 | 773021 Dr. No
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Raising rates will do it as you pointed out.  This will kill the economy and put the US in a depression.  Why would the FED do that?  because the FED is PRIVATE and does not serve the government.  If inflation starts to undermine the FED's private shareholder's wealth and power position, they will yank Bernak's leash.  Skeptics should read some of Rothbard's work on money.  Inflation rewards the people early in the stream and punishes people at the end.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:36 | 773064 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Why would the FED do that?  because the FED is PRIVATE and does not serve the government.

The Fed maintains its monopoly by government fiat. Bring down the government (or sufficiently endanger the sitting politicians) and the Fed will lose the monopoly. Suppose the Fed raises rates which makes the debt unserviceable and so the government simply begins printing US Notes on its own?

Can you provide a reasonable scenario in which the Fed acts as you posit and the politicians sacrifice themselves to save Ben Bernanke?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 16:45 | 773101 Dr. No
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From Wiki on Paul Volker:

Paul Volcker, a Democrat,[5] was appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve in August 1979 by President Jimmy Carter and reappointed in 1983 by President Ronald Reagan.[6]

Volcker's Fed is widely credited with ending the United States' stagflation crisis of the 1970s. Inflation, which peaked at 13.5% in 1981, was successfully lowered to 3.2% by 1983.[7]

The federal funds rate, which had averaged 11.2% in 1979, was raised by Volcker to a peak of 20% in June 1981. The prime rate rose to 21.5% in 1981 as well.

Volcker's Fed elicited the strongest political attacks and most widespread protests in the history of the Federal Reserve (unlike any protests experienced since 1922), due to the effects of the high interest rates on the construction and farming sectors, culminating in indebted farmers driving their tractors onto C Street NW and blockading the Eccles Building.[8]


The last paragraph highlights how the FED withstood the political pressure.  Granted that was then and this is now.  With the Bernank playing all of these games and putting the FED under the spotlight, he may have weakened the FED significantly enough to not withstand the pressure.  We do live in interesting times.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 17:55 | 773362 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Volker's actions did not make the US Government insolvent so you've basically got an apples and oranges thing going there. Please tell me how Bernanke will stand up to the criticism (just criticism?) and the Fed will maintain its mandate when it bankrupts the very people who oversee its charter?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 18:32 | 773508 Dr. No
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The government is bankrupt/insolvent now.  Regardless of any actions by the FED.  I have no direct evidence of how Bernanke will stand up to the pressure, since it has not happened.  I do believe once we get 13% inflation rate, people in power will be screaming for the FED to shut off the spigot.  The FED will.  The poeple on the bottom will suffer, as always.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 23:32 | 774162 CrockettAlmanac.com
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What will stop the government from simply printing its own notes? What makes you think that they need the Fed to create pieces of paper with dead white guys pictures on them?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:04 | 771797 RobotTrader
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Breadth surge today is huge.

Investor's Business Daily will likely call this a "follow through day" and all the mo-mo lemmings who stepped aside during "market in correction" will be jumping back into the pool with full force.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:09 | 771831 SheepDog-One
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OH sure...everyone in the rigged casino of course sold high to someone, then bought da dip of course. Youre a fuking idiot Robo.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:11 | 771843 Rogerwilco
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So we'll see CMG at $400 by Christmas? Ho ho ho, boo-ree-to. Let's party like it's 1999!

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:23 | 771907 High Plains Drifter
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Speaking of Christmas, I think we should get a pot going and get Robo something real nice for Christmas since he has been such a wonderful contributor all year long. Ha ha. How much are blow up dolls?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:34 | 771941 LeBalance
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You're just trying to get a mailing address for the metric ton of hog shit you have been saving for just such an occasion.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:35 | 771954 High Plains Drifter
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Oh come on. Where does Robo live?  In Truth or Consequences, New Mexico?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:39 | 771946 Rogerwilco
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Robo is like Sgt. Friday, just the facts ma'am, and I have no problem with that. The "facts" do seem similar to a time eleven years ago when momentum was everything in the markets, and fundamentals (EBITA anyone) didn't matter. IIRC, the NASD was around 5K at the time...

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 15:38 | 772849 bbtrader
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As you're the tech guy, is there a big long head & shoulders top on the bank ETF (KBE), I mean lasting over a year?

Sure looks like one to me, and obviously, the $NDX is nearing its 2007 highs but the banks have been stuck deep in $hit for this long.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:06 | 771809 Ignorance is bliss
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Gold will be parabolic as China needs to dump their worth less dollars into something that will retain value. Gold, Silver, and PMs will go parabolic. They already see rampant inflation and will be looking to secure a hedge with PMs.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:06 | 771813 Clint Liquor
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It is interesting that China is not only is the #1 producer of the world's Gold but will soon be the #1 importer of the world's Gold.


Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:16 | 771868 Rogerwilco
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Gold is an important metal for high-reliability electrical contacts, the kind used in military equipment. Just sayin'.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:26 | 771922 Arius
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its all about CASH and they got it...

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:06 | 771815 HuFwungDung
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follow the money inflows.  Chinese invest in gold.  Fed invests in DEBT (own debt).  Useless.   It will not be successful.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:09 | 771829 RobotTrader
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Yamana Gold is basing out just like Krispy Kreme which finally exploded out.

Perhaps Eric King will finally get his payday???


Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:10 | 771835 SheepDog-One
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Beat yourself to death.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:17 | 771875 A_MacLaren
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At least you're trying now Robo...

In the mean while, you've entirely missed: RBY, UXG, EXK, SLW, HL, NG, NGD, CDE, MVG, and others I have been to busy to research and track.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:20 | 771892 Turd Ferguson
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For once, you and I agree on something! That AUY chart looks very good.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:48 | 772024 Dr. No
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AUY is a heart breaker.  If you buy into the miracle, she will break your heart.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:21 | 771898 Al Huxley
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The smaller junior players (most only trade on Canadian exchanges) are generally way better plays than the more well-known ones like Yamana, Goldcorp, Barrick, etc..., but maybe Yamana will finally get its breakout.

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:26 | 771910 Spalding_Smailes
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VGGCF continues its 6 month climb Lol'

An upstart. I bought a few thousand shares at .62 a dice roll VG Gold is focused on developing its four gold projects situated in the heart of the world class Timmins Gold Camp in Canada.
Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:21 | 771837 Pladizow
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"You buy gold now, britches!"

Round eye sooooo sirry!

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:12 | 771852 koeleköpke
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who is the fucking communist ?

Thu, 12/02/2010 - 12:32 | 771939 Jason T
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God protect Ron Paul.    

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