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Chinese Real Estate Bubble Pops: Beijing Real Estate Prices Plunge 27% In One Month

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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:45 | 1168156 tek77blu
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another collapsed market? uranium stocks. the japanese crisis has take companies down 50-70%...if those aren't bargain sales, I dont know what is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-EkkhJi9VY

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:55 | 1168180 Oh regional Indian
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tek, perhaps Uranium as a fuel source is dead? Except for .gov use?

I think so and that sector may never really revive.

ORI

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:12 | 1168216 Thunder Dome
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What's the alternative ORI?  The vast majority of people here were crying the sky was falling during the BP spill--writing about mass evacuations and Corexit.  Where are BP, RIG and APC trading now?  50-150% higher.  Tek is on the right track.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:17 | 1168228 Harlequin001
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Anybody want to buy a Bentley? Apparently there's fucking loads of 'em going cheap in Beijing...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:25 | 1168242 Oh regional Indian
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Thunder D, not sure if you are following the GOM story on alt. press, because it's pretty dam bad. Stocks may be up, but this is the most manipulated market (especially the past year, since GOM began, coming up to the anniversary actually). 

And th ealternatives...hmmm, if I point them out, the naysayers come screaming out of the woodwork. ;-)

Try this when you have time at hand...

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/12/31/a-big-part-of-what-this-here-place-is-about/

No one is ready to get off the oil/cheap energy bandwagon...yet.

ORI

 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:06 | 1168554 falak pema
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Ori,

You are a strange mix of oriental mystery and occidental pragmatism.

Being an oriental makes you a proponent of Holistic solutions.

Being an occidental makes you also a practitioner of reductionist actions.

Untie the Gordian knot or cut it; the world waits for would be inventors cum entrepreneurs to become practitioners. Biting the bullit is the acid test. But then timing is of essence to find the tipping moment to produce the best holistic effect from a reductionist proposition.

Hopefully, a realistic contract to build prototype or test a theoretical model not an impossible compromise of principles...I understand the dilemma brother, only to well...I hope the 'solution' is worth the voyage as lonely prophet in his desert trek. 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:22 | 1168848 Oh regional Indian
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Falak, looks like the visionary's dilemma is familiar to you.

They say that when you are granted a vision, you are usually also granted the energy to see it to fruition and the discernment to know a mirage from reality in that desert.

I'm not sitting on my hands, always doing and un-doing. People are startign to appriach with open hearts and minds. I know that the motive for profit cannot be in the mix at the start.

Timing is really everything. So I play music, and watch. 

your turn of phrase and in-sight is much apreciated.

ORI

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:35 | 1168464 Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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Alternative?  Thorium.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:46 | 1168292 Bicycle Repairman
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"Prices of new homes in China's capital plunged 26.7% month-on-month in March"

LOL.  Can you imagine a similar plunge in Washington DC prices after Bernanke exits QE?

Exactly.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:22 | 1168233 oh_bama
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BJ housing prices (good locations) were either flat or even slightly higher.

  • A lot of losers are hoping for a lower prices.
  • A lot of politician are manipulating statistics ( they learn fast ) 
Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:32 | 1168263 squexx
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You've posted the same garbage on every other thread. Begone, troll!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:47 | 1168158 French Frog
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:48 | 1168159 eigenvalue
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But this information is from the Chinese government. Therefore I highly doubt it

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:09 | 1168201 Harlequin001
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let the boom continue then...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:30 | 1168250 PeaBird
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I'm with you Herr eigenvalue.

My cynical self thinks the inflated chinese gold production figures over the past few years is for the purpose of not making the price explode, which in turn is for the purpose of chinese private & official accumulation.

My other cynical self thinks the recent chinese trade deficit figures release, and this latest release is to help provide plausible deniability to claims that the Renminbi should be revalued upwards, but instead be devalued against the USD downwards, due to a trade deficit & "now" plunging real estate values.

Nothing is coincidence in this game.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:47 | 1168162 almost_have_a_name
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"kidney beans down 6.3%..."

but kidney's are up 235%, ice is up 73%.


Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:48 | 1168164 augie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h7V3Twb-Qk

 

old video but none the less Ordos' are everywhere.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:50 | 1168165 vxpatel
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I thought most chinese investment property purchases were all cash...?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:04 | 1168196 Imminent Crucible
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That was what you were told by the China pumpers. The 60% down payments applied to individuals buying a "second home" (read "apt to flip").

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870329320457610587309465935...

But commercial purchasers (and who else would buy an entire apt building, office tower or condo complex?) were never subject to those restrictions.  So the Beijing and Shanghai bubbles were bid up at the commercial level.  Further, the foreign money took on its leverage outside China; much of it was leveraged investment fund money.

Chanos 1, Rogers 0

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:54 | 1168960 patb
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Its all shark loan schemes.  Invisible banking.

 

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/07/ponzi-shark-loans-fue...

 

Families lend, friends lend, and they all rely on each other for cash reserves. The ties of honor and reputation are all that enforce repayment. It is a great shame if you can't repay. Face is everything. Many simply repay by "rolling the debt" borrowing more to pay the vig.

I have had to bail my mother-in-law out several times. The accumulated interest was greater than the principal she originally borrowed.

Parents of lend to their children to buy their condo with the understanding it will be repaid or they will come to live in their old age under that roof. Almost no one has the 20 to 30% down to buy a place. The down payment is typically borrowed at terrible interest or comes from a "marriage gift" which had its origin in borrowed funds, not from savings.

It's like fractional reserve lending on steroids. Everyone works their ass off to pay the loan, pay the vig, and save their face so they can borrow more if needed. A collapse of the bubble could cost lots of folks their life savings. This makes the financial aspect of Chinese society much more fragile than it appears on the surface. There is a lot of interconnected personal debt below radar.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 12:08 | 1169027 vxpatel
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makes subprime seem quaint in comparison...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:50 | 1168166 French Frog
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Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:51 | 1168171 no2foreclosures
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Another one of my "Nine 2011 Predictions" is becoming true:

5. The Chinese real estate market, the last investment vehicle in China for those Chinese with money, will also begin its collapse suddenly, hitting hard cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Fuzhou, etc.  According to a very recent article by UK's Daily Mail Online, there are as many as 64 MILLION empty homes in China with no one occupying these brand new homes!  This China real estate crash will have serious implications for the real estate market in Vancouver.  There won't be m/any Chinese millionaires plunking down $1+ million CASH for buying real estate in Vancouver, as has been the case over the recent years.

http://rense.com/general92/stdr.htm

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:14 | 1168219 Harlequin001
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were these 'Nine 2011 predictions' made in  er 2011 by any chance?

wasn't difficult to see that one coming...

I also predict that it will either rain, there will be a financial calamity, a nuclear power plant will blow up or it will go dark tonight...

I too have a 100% success rate in making predictions.

Question is, 'How far will Chinese house prices fall, and when will they stop falling?'

We'd all like to know when the global economic expansion will take off again. If you can predict it, perchance...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:03 | 1168358 no2foreclosures
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If you read the full article (PDF), it was published on December 23, 2010.

As to your last question, GD2 or Great Depression 2 won't end until we are through with WW III or WW IV, because that's the last bubble to inflate (pun intended).

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:55 | 1168518 Stun Gun
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+10

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:52 | 1168172 Cdad
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ahhhhh....now we see why The Goldman moved on that copper downgrade.  We also probably know why the commodity trade unwind more broadly has begun.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:52 | 1168173 Oh regional Indian
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Rapes down 8.8% and noboy's heard it.

Such delicious typos, layered.

Sad to report that the Indian RE bubble bubbles on, every "rent" in the bubble's fabric being papered over by more "foreign" money.

We have REMax selling houses here now! Why? And LJ Hooker? The irony is not lost on me.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/spinal-tap/

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:56 | 1168177 Rodent Freikorps
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Spell check will never replace careful proofreading.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:59 | 1168186 Tyler Durden
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Neither will it replace actually checking the source information. Go ahead. Click. Let us know what you find.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:05 | 1168193 Harlequin001
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I think you may have missed the point of that comment entirely Tyler...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:55 | 1168719 slewie the pi-rat
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how can anyone's cucumber be down?  this is wonderful!

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:14 | 1168215 Global Hunter
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Having been born in the UK and raised in North America, I would go back to the UK for the summer during my school days. I was a taken aback one day when driving out in the countryside my Grandmother said something to the effect of the rape was looking lovely in bloom.  

I think its flax seed in North America.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:17 | 1168223 Global Hunter
Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:18 | 1168226 Flakmeister
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Canola....

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:49 | 1168316 Byte Me
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And in Dutch (or Flemmish at least) rape(n) are turnip(s).

Nice to hear that turnips are now affordable by the masses again then...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:14 | 1168222 Rodent Freikorps
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Learn something new every day.

My bad.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:03 | 1168188 Harlequin001
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absofuckinlutely old stick...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 07:54 | 1168178 cheesewizz
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Just hate those high beta houses...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:05 | 1168198 Harlequin001
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what high beta houses...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 10:07 | 1168552 MSimon
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The high gamma houses are worse.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:00 | 1168183 pan-the-ist
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Isn't this what should have happened in the US?

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:02 | 1168191 Harlequin001
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coming to a house near you...

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:04 | 1168197 overmedicatedun...
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Tek, stop buying the paper stocks..buy the Uranium itself..but remember you can't eat uranium with out getting a hot ass.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:07 | 1168207 Thunder Dome
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Yellow cake.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:22 | 1168232 Harlequin001
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psst, got some nice glow-in-the-dark fish going cheap...

big discounts...

very good quality, much cheapness...

from Japan.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 08:12 | 1168213 JPDG
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Looks like Bernanke inflated the wrong RE market. 

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 09:06 | 1168368 no2foreclosures
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Now that's funny.  And too true.

Thu, 04/14/2011 - 11:12 | 1168812 slewie the pi-rat
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lol!  USA exports rule!  try to beat america in a race to the bottom ya commie bastards!  go ahead, make our day! 

i've said it before and i'll say it again:  our banksters will kick chinese ass til the kingdom cometh.  new BRIC reserve currency?  okey dokey!  just revalue the fuking yuan upward like we told ya in the first place & shut tf up!

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