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CIA Agent Caught Red-Handed Aiding Pakistani Terrorism?
CNN notes:
News
that the American accused of killing two Pakistani men is a CIA
contractor has intensified an already highly charged situation in
Pakistan.
"Raymond Davis is a CIA Guy," read the headline in the Daily Times newspaper Tuesday.
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Davis
was jailed January 27 after fatally shooting two men who pulled up to
him on a motorcycle in a bustling Lahore neighborhood.
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The
36-year-old Davis is a former member of the U.S. Army special forces
and had been employed by security firm XE Services, previously known as
Blackwater.
Davis began working for the CIA nearly four years
ago. He was assigned to Pakistan in late 2009. He was living with other
security personnel at a safehouse in Lahore before the shooting
incident.
On Monday, a U.S. government official also said that Davis was a CIA contractor providing security for CIA officers.
The
U.S. at first falsely claimed that Davis was a diplomat with the State
Department and should therefore be granted diplomatic immunity:
Despite
the revelation of Davis' true line of work, U.S. officials on Monday
renewed their argument that he has diplomatic immunity and must be
released.
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Before Monday, U.S. officials
had described Davis only as an employee who was attached to the U.S.
Embassy in Islamabad and who was working at the U.S. Consulate in
Lahore at the time of the shootings.
But the deeper story is that Davis allegedly actively aided and abetted terrorism. As CNN notes:
Some newspapers cited unnamed sources to link Davis with "terrorist activity" and the Pakistani Taliban.
"CIA agent Davis had ties with local militants," read the headline in The Express Tribune.
The Tribune quoted an unnamed "senior police official" as saying Davis was suspected in masterminding terrorist activity.
"His
close ties with the TTP (The Pakistani Taliban) were revealed during
the investigations," the paper quoted the police official as saying.
"Davis was instrumental in recruiting young people from Punjab for the
Taliban to fuel the insurgency."
The Star explains:
In
a story published Tuesday, the English-language Express Tribune quoted
a Punjabi police official who said Davis was actually working with the
Pakistani Taliban in a bid to stoke insecurity in Pakistan and support
the argument that its cache of nuclear weapons isn’t safe.Call
records of Davis’s cellphone allegedly establish his link to 27
Taliban militants and a sectarian group known as Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the
police source said.
Reuters points out
that two other CIA contractors were involved in a fatal car accident
last month while trying to help Davis. Reuters notes, and have now quickly departed
from Pakistan, and notes:
Two U.S. officials confirmed media reports the
two men involved in the fatal accident were working and living in the
same building in Lahore as Davis. They said all three men were working
on similar security assignments for the CIA.
Most dramatically, South Asian news agency ANI reports that - according to Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service - Davis was giving nuclear and biowarfare materials to Al-Qaeda:
Double
murder-accused US official Raymond Davis has been found in possession
of top-secret CIA documents, which point to him or the feared American
Task Force 373 (TF373) operating in the region, providing Al-Qaeda
terrorists with "nuclear fissile material" and "biological agents,"
according to a report.
Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is
warning that the situation on the sub-continent has turned "grave" as
it appears that open warfare is about to break out between Pakistan and the United States, The European Union Times reports.
The SVR warned in its report that the apprehension of 36-year-old Davis, who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore last month, had fuelled this crisis.
According
to the report, the combat skills exhibited by Davis, along with
documentation taken from him after his arrest, prove that he is a
member of US' TF373 black operations unit currently operating in the
Afghan War Theatre and Pakistan's tribal areas, the paper said.
While
the US insists that Davis is one of their diplomats, and the two men
he killed were robbers, Pakistan says that the duo were ISI agents sent
to follow him after it was discovered that he had been making contact
with al Qaeda, after his cell phone was tracked to the Waziristan
tribal area bordering Afghanistan, the paper said.
The most ominous point in this SVR report is "Pakistan's ISI stating
that top-secret CIA documents found in Davis's possession point to his,
and/or TF373, providing to al Qaeda terrorists "nuclear fissile
material" and "biological agents", which they claim are to be used
against the United States itself in order to ignite an all-out war in
order to re-establish the West's hegemony over a Global economy that is
warned is just months away from collapse," the paper added.
However, ANI's allegations are uncorroborated at this time, and it is unknown whether Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service said anything of the sort.
See this, this, this, this and this for background.
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Would you like all of those services report just facts and truth as it's the case with American media?
You are being polite. Hey, here's a novel theory....Davis is a contractor hired to protect US personnel who have come under threat from elements in Pakistan, which may include members of the ISI. Young ISI officers were following Davis, and one of them played cowboy, brandishing and cocking a pistol. Davis took no chances and emptied his Glock into the two men who had been tailing him.
Yes, I know, not sexy enough for the ZH crowd, who like to get their "facts" from news agencies whose names they didn't even know yesterday.
Fair, but why would the CIA need security? Its not like blackwater (or whatever bullshit name they are now using) hasn't been caught up in situations like this before.
In this echo chamber, a voice of reason.....
Right, and like he is really going to have documents proving he sold nukes to AQ - like what, an invoice - "One Nuke" Sign here__________
Regardless, saying a spy has diplomatic immunity should be filed under "Nice Try."
Thus accusation, no matter the source, becomes fact, especially if it is outlandish. There's an audience for it, especially those with the Downing Effect for Sophistication, so why not give them what they want?
Incidentally, every spy at every country's embassy everywhere in the world, carries diplomatic immunity so long as they carry a diplomatic passport.
"Listen, I am sure this guy is no angel."
Definitions come hard in that "game".
"Don't accept as true what you read in Pakistani Newspapers (I use the term news very loosely), from Russians and from the ISI. Mix it all with the CIA and you have one big cesspool of twisted reality."
Mixed in with as yet, unidentified "unnamed Punjabi police official" it's a real cluster fark to be sure.
Thanks for the moment of clarity Bill...before chants of purloined Soviet fissile material...suitcase nukes...or even laser guided nano-thermite coated passenger jet seat cushions, in addition to voice to skull transmissions driving conspiracistists out of the woodwork like the Orkin Man's truck rumbling down the driveway...LOL.
I await the slings and arrows of satire with shirt torn open & breast exposed ;-)
Simple enough for even a 9/11MORON to understand.
#991471
"Corroborating evidence of the crime in question is required to make the circumstantial believable in a mosh pit of liars I would think."
Nanothermite is serious stuff, expensive components, very difficult to mix properly without incident. I worked on a process involving nano-scale alumina for RDECOM, nasty shit indeed.
You'll never outdo millimeter scale thermite or dolemite. Dolemite is nano scale weaponized debt burden ink particles.
dolemite. i used and bought bags of dolemite in my ceramic uses. i think it is pretty inexpensive.
And here I thought Dolemite was a pimp action hero from the 70s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDcoFeuQeyI
It's a tangled web, alright:
http://wn.com/Former_Pakistani_ISI_Chief_says_Mumbai_attack_likely_a_false-flag_destabilisation
Just out of curiousity, who flagged these comments as junk?
I'm just curious as to who has their head so far up their ass that they couldn't even consider that maybe, just maybe, there is the slight possibility that Pakistani and Russian intelligence are lying?
Oh, I forgot, only the US and its governement agents would do such a thing...the angels on the other side never would, they are way too upstanding...
And as for the 'false flag' operations - there is a boogeyman under your bed, he was put there by the CIA...if he isn't under your bed he's probably in your closest.
Explain to me how you beleive that the US governement can fuck up just about everything but 'false flag' operations...really.
"Explain to me how you beleive that the US governement can fuck up just about everything but 'false flag' operations...really."
How did you ever get the idea that the US gov't. doesn't fuck up its false flag operations? There's lots of evidence to the contrary. Does 9-11 and Bldg #7 ring a bell? How about the USS Liberty or the Gulf of Tonkin "Incident"? The terrorists that work for the US gov't. are as incompetent as they come. They depend on a controlled media and idiots like you to cover their obvious tracks.
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Marks - GW posts attract the virtual droolers of ZH. They believe the "junk" button is purely there as a way for them to express their displeasure with any concept requiring thought. Check it out sometime - you'll see enormously more junks on GW commentors than anywhere else (although Cognitive Dissonance attracts much the same crowd). Trying to argue rationally just makes it worse. Best course of action is to skim GW's long posts filled with cherry-picked "uncorroborated" quotes followed by empty yet ominous commentary and then go on - if you are driven to try to engage in rational discourse you WILL receive multiple junks.
I have a simpler explanation. It was Charlie Munger and the Board of Directors of Berkshire Hathaway.
As likely as any. We peons and peasants get rumors and false truths from "news sources" - thus my need for ZH where we can at least put a BS detector to it all.
Keep your head low, make what you can, save most of it, prepare for the worst and pray for the best.
Lotsa black swans flock above - 1 landing will be disastrous, 2 landing is TSHTF, 3 is biblical. And there's a whole flock looking to land.
Two words: Oliver North
The game was clearly exposed decades ago. No, nothing new, but...
Are you referring to the Cocaine Importation Agency?
You are right, the US gov't blunders just about everything it gets its hands on recently. The false flag op is not government run though. Politicians have no stomach for it. You probably know this. The op is run by the paramilitary military industrial complex. They could run anything exceptionally well if they want to - but they are into making money see? Rest assured, the boogyman cares not for you and I individually because it does not pay to kill us. As part of nuking a city to start a very profitable war though? We're dead. Does that make sense?
Face it, GW don't know shit. Quoting Russian
and Pakistani sources as the truth. He don't know shit
and neither does anyone else on this blog about these
subjects. All speculation, no facts just links to
the NY times etc.
Dude, great stuff. Aren't you worried you might get whacked? This kind of shit has been happening on the North American continent since before the American Revolution and I'm not even going to mentioned what the Spanish did to the Aztecs. The English traded Hudson Bay blankets to the Indians that were coated with small pox germs and it was your handle himself who stared the French and Indian War by murdering a French officer during a parlay. Good stuff, eh?
Eh? Shaddup.
On the other hand i'm quite convinced that all this will be bullish for gold.
Sarcasm alert for USA readers.
Of course the ISI would say that.
maybe
Intelligence services seem to recognize that the"Global economy that is warned is just months away from collapse". Most people can't...
Sure, but that part is pure editorial bs because no field agent would be captured holding papers that say such a thing, it wouldn't make any sense. They don't get written orders, and even if they did, they would be back at hq in a safe, not on them.
exactly!
This is more sinister than a James Bond plot. Al-Qaida is the criminal organisation run by Blofeld/Bin Laden. But ex-CIA agents working for al-Qaida to help USA, hidden, Machiavellian evil empire, achieve its global design of retro-fitting itself into Blofeld's, making him surrogate vassal in the great evil game, is something that never occurred to Ian Fleming; the fertile master mind of the great spy game. Reality as concocted by this scenario makes Julian Assange pretty watered down lily. This makes Khadaffi look like a real Saharan donkey, Hitler a jew hating monkey. This is in a league of its own. WoW....Orwell's 1984 is depassé!
Not hard to see where Ian Fleming got his ideas from. Just look at his past. Fast forward 50+ years and he might have a different perspective on the world of 007. No?
"...a terrorist doing work for Spetsnaz does not, in the great majority of cases, suspect he is being used. He is utterly convinced that he is acting independently, of his own free will and by his own choice.” - Viktor Suvorov, Spetsnaz, 1987
Anyone that thinks the CIA and Mossad don't employ the same methods that Spetsnaz did is terminally naive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetsnaz
Of course the CIA helps Al Qaeda, they created Al Qaeda.
Google Tim Osman, Bin Laden's CIA asset name.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/binladen_cia.html
"Of course the CIA helps Al Qaeda, they created Al Qaeda."
Damn right.
Everyone knows it ... except GW of course.
Guess he's still trying to figure out how 8 ragheads pulled off 9/11.
No wonder we've have trouble finding Bin Laden - we should've looked in the white pages for Timmy, or What, donated more to his poppy fields enterprise.
Our whole Empire expedition is FUBAR. But its all about to crumble in months if not weeks.
I cheer and applaud the destruction of all this corruption.
What is so hard to understand about it? He's an intelligence operative. If you're going to collect information, you have to get with the right people. So that is what he was doing. Whether or not the US is playing both sides, who knows? It is possible if you believe in the "forever war" scenario that a major power would be in the business of drumming up enemies at times when no good ones exist. Why not?
We all know the US Govt. has no ethics whatsoever. One need only look at what the Federal Reserve/Treasury has done to us. Why not foment bigger regional conflicts if it will sell more weaponry in an attempt to lift global economic activity?
We should not be nuking our own people to get a war started -- oh, I forgot - 9-11. I guess if thats the way it is, lets just nuke ourselves, ok?
fuck it - RIGHT!?
"We have always been at war with Eurasia"
Free "Our Diplomat" Raymond Davis before he loses too much weight from his hunger strike. Thanks in Advance!
Let him die. He has cost enough lives already.
Thank Gawd for a compassionate conservative! We should all be mindful of our true heros. Milestones
Free our diplomat indeed!
Time to ask Hillary why Ray had the numbers of 27 Taliban militants on his cell phone I think!
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/943387--in-pakistan-cia-s-activities-come-under-glare-after-murder-charge-against-american
In Pakistan, CIA’s Activities Come Under Glare After Murder Charge Against American Published On Wed Feb 23 2011Rss
In this Jan. 28, 2011 file photo, Pakistani security officials escort Raymond Allen Davis, a U.S., center, to a local court in Lahore, Pakistan.
Hamza Ahmed/AP file photo
By Rick Westhead South Asia Bureau NEW DELHI—What was a C.I.A. agent doing in the streets of Lahore last month with a telescope and GPS device, a camera, and loaded Glock semi-automatic pistol?
Davis’s link to the C.I.A. was first mentioned in the western press on Sunday by the London Guardian newspaper after several U.S. news organizations, including a Denver TV channel, the Associated Press and The New York Times, agreed to hold stories about Davis’s shadowy employer.
A columnist on Salon.com wrote Monday that the Times, America’s most influential broadsheet, should be “humiliated” for “allowing the U.S. Government to run around affirmatively depicting Davis as some sort of Holbrooke-like diplomat" while it concealed “ highly relevant information about Davis because the Obama administration told it to.”
The Colorado TV channel 9News learned of Davis’s link after tracking down his wife. She referred a reporter to his employer, a C.I.A. spokesperson in Washington. 9News reported the development, but quickly deleted the story from its Website.
In a story published Tuesday, the English-language Express Tribune quoted a Punjabi police official who said Davis was actually working with the Pakistani Taliban in a bid to stoke insecurity in Pakistan and support the argument that its cache of nuclear weapons isn’t safe.
Call records of Davis’s cellphone allegedly establish his link to 27 Taliban militants and a sectarian group known as Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, the police source said.
i wonder if one of them was Osama Bin Laden? That would be a turn up for the books!
he had a glock too
ROTFL!!!
Maybe he is trying to recruit them as agents or information sources to the CIA.
All is fair in love and war, you know.
One needs a steady supply of terrorist to perpetuate a "war on terrorism" - which is the moneymaker for Blackwater & Friends;
The problem is that there hasn't been any decent terrorists lately. When the underpants bomber is the best they can come up with on their own, surely they need help. Otherwise business may suffer.
There is no shortage of terrorists. Islam has seen to that. The key is getting them to the "objective". For that the CIA can be very helpful.
Yes. The world is running out of enemies and new ones always need to be cultivated. When I tell people that, no one believes me that the US plays BOTH sides of the conflict.