Civil War Breaks Out In Tripoli

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Yen Cross's picture

Ahh it's about time! Now we can get CVN on them, and save some lifes.

whatsinaname's picture

meanwhile insurgents blow up refinery in iraq. 25 percent of iraq production is offline now.

66Sexy's picture

Am i missing something? Why is the MSM pumping the idea that 'Gaddafi out = lower oil price' ? Wouldnt Gaddafi out mean more uncertainty about Libyan oil? How can ANY conclusions be drawn about the power structure in the middle east: we are the 'Great Satan', and are being banished... right? How th fuck could the MSM or even our government know the outcomes here, or the effects on crude prices?

We are in a wild card scenario.. no one knows. Clearly there is an attempt to get control of the price with this association.

caconhma's picture

American democracy in action: "AP - Sixty-five civilians, including 40 children, were killed in a NATO assault on insurgents in eastern Afghanistan earlier this month, according to findings of an Afghan government investigation".

Did I mention of 1,400 civilians killed in Gaza by Israeli terrorists with American blessing?

bigelkhorn's picture

I always love listening to the guys from FFT. They are insanely accurate with their stuff.


This is their latest stuff, and analysis of the S&P 500 chart. It is well worth a look, pretty cool!.

YHC-FTSE's picture

Oh dear. Linear regression forecast passed off technical analysis?

Thanks for the link - I'll go back there again, but not impressed so far.

hbjork1's picture

Nothing there YHC.

The loonies are loose.

GoinFawr's picture

"You ar.e decripted! I know your proxies"


YHC-FTSE's picture

Carrier force? I don't think that's a good idea mate. Even the Libyans are having trouble distinguishing friend from foe, so how the hell are foreigners going to tell them apart? - sending in troops or bombing from the air will likely cause more civ casualities and cause a united front against "foreign invaders". 


So far the Libyans on both sides have been pretty decent about foreigners evacuating, even in the midst of turmoil. That will change when the collateral damage start mounting up. Better let the Libyans sort this out for themselves, and perhaps help out the resistance with deniable covert ops if things get worse.

reader2010's picture

Gaddafi will be blamed for hyperinflaiton because he is allowed to burn his oil. 

JW n FL's picture



Italy needs the 500,000bbl's a day!!! or else the German will have to pick up a bigger tab than they already have to... lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!

serotonindumptruck's picture

That must be why Germany is sending three warships.

tellsometruth's picture

and the reason zerohedge mentioned naval movements months ago clearly a US build up in the ME

serotonindumptruck's picture

The oil supertankers transitting the Red Sea and Suez are going to require combatant escort.

Long-John-Silver's picture

I was involved in Tanker escort during the "Tanker War" when Iran and Iraq were engaged in their war. It was the most miserable time I had during my time in the Navy. We suffered proximity explosions from a couple of anti ship missiles. We operated in a war zone but we were never considered to have served in a war zone so no war vet status for my shipmates and myself. Sucks big time and now it's going to happen to another generation of sailors.

serotonindumptruck's picture

It would seem that the most pressing issue at the current time is Somali pirates. That's easier to deal with than antiship missiles. At least for now.

Long-John-Silver's picture

The Somali pirates could be delt with in a couple of weeks if you've got someone in charge with the gonads to do it. Land Marines on the beach and take out the support areas. Pirates can't be pirates without a support base.

Dr. Porkchop's picture

I trust your authority on pirates based on your avatar alone ;)

pods's picture

Right.  So did they steal their fish before they started dumping barrels of radioactive waste there?  


AnAnonymous's picture

From the article:


Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our toxic waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome?


Absolutely. That is what US citizens expected them to do. And if they do not comply, then on with their termination.

US citizens do not support liberty. In their own times, they even codified slavery in their constitution.

ZeroPower's picture

Thats a load of BS imo

But im guessing you support dirty somalis killing innocent civilians.

GoinFawr's picture

And I am guessing you support the western world using the Somalia coastal waters as their toxic waste dumping ground?

YHC-FTSE's picture


How the hell did I miss that story? Thanks for the link - makes a lot of sense.

serotonindumptruck's picture

Thanks for sharing this article, philgramm.

ZH can be an educational experience, if one keeps an open mind.

Michael's picture

What do you think of this approach for pirates?

"In the days of fighting sail, a Letter of Marque and Reprisal was a government licence authorizing a private vessel to attack and capture enemy vessels, and bring them before admiralty courts for condemnation and sale. Cruising for prizes with a Letter of Marque was considered an honorable calling combining patriotism and profit, in contrast to unlicensed piracy which was universally reviled. The French used the term lettre de course for their letters of marque, giving rise to the term corsair. Letter of Marque can sometimes describe the vessel itself: a "Letter of Marque" generally refers to a lumbering square-rigged cargo carrier that might pick up a prize if the opportunity arose, whereas a "privateer" was a fast and weatherly fore-and-aft rigged vessel heavily armed and heavily crewed, intended exclusively for fighting.

A "letter of marque and reprisal" would involve permission to cross an international border to effect a reprisal (take some action against an attack or injury) authorized by an issuing jurisdiction to conduct reprisal operations outside its borders."

falak pema's picture

O knower of all...tell me who invented the black patch amongst those sea's been haunting me since I read Treasure Island and realised how deadly was the Marque of pirates, not the kings, called the 'black spot' ! Yikes! I'm a 'marked' Marquee!

ebworthen's picture


U.S. Leaders?

Let's see if we can get oil and vinegar to mix.

Rarely has a world power had such nutless, spineless, jellyfish at top levels of the Judiciary, Legislative, and Executive branches; and the military plays coy and polite and rolls over.

When will our military stand up for the people?

dark pools of soros's picture

they would of took it away anyway with austerity - why this country just doesn't openly act like an imperial state and take the ME ??? better now then later since there won't be a later very soon...


but as well all know, the banking interests don't care about USA anyway..  so the whole army should sit down until the Bankers are rooted out since Americans are getting anything but the debt from aquiring the spoils for the elite..

ft65's picture

JW n FL / GLP ^TrInItY^ good to see your flip-flop on popular Muslim uprising. How are things at MacDill and Eglin. Has Elaine sold out to you?

Cistercian's picture

 Bloodbath ensues.....

tellsometruth's picture

"and the middle class just sat down to watch too"

-speak for yourself.  It caused be to start paying attention, then educate, now opening my mouth and expressing myself to others publicly and privately...

engage your fellow man

eigenvalue's picture

Then oil will limit up on Monday morning?

Saxxon's picture

What's limit-up for CL?

eigenvalue's picture

If I remember correctly, the daily price fluctuation limit is 10 dollars. 

pods's picture

Nah, they will merely print up as much WTI as needed to keep the price down.




JW n FL's picture

India didnt want to push for GoDaffy's punishment in the War Crimes Court.. fucking pussy dot heads! I thought they had a Prime Minister!


What happened with the Ambassador selling out?

ft65's picture

JW n FL / Trinity / Captain Underpants - I think Mr Blair probably had a whisper in someones ear. It a bitch when people don't sell out.


Dapper Dan's picture

I hope there are some waves tomorrow and maybe a little off shore wind, I need some glide time, especially  after this last week,  add a little surf enhancer I'll be good to go.

The one quote I heard this week that I can't shake from my mind is from Damon Vickers when told the treasury bills were being bought by China or Japan.

 I don't think so. I don't think sales are taking place. That's why QE2 Exists. They are issuing debt and printing paper and printing money because there is not the absorptive capacity of the world to absorb the debt, and that's where we are.

HarrisonBergeron's picture

I'm with you on feeling a chill from that comment. I am pretty sure he is right and in time it will be quite obvious.

themosmitsos's picture

Tyler let me first admit I'm not super up-to date on day-to-day events, and I doubt the veracity of *much* of what I hear on AJ & US media, but simply from this description here, this doesn't sound like a civil war, this sounds like someone buttoning down and getting ready for a massive crackdown [butchering if necessary], the likes of which I expected in Egypt. Of course, the Libyan military was always in a much sadder state of affairs, hence the delayed reaction. Civil war implies the other side [rebels] have a fighting capacity and if they do [again, not up-to-date & question what I hear on AJ & US MM] the more important question to ask, is ....

WHERE'D THEY GET THIS FIGHTING CAPACITY, ALL OF A SUDDEN, with such fortuitous timing, during other ME/NA revolts?

Matter of fact, what's up with all these revolts, simultaneously? Sure, sure, a wave of freedom & democracy is spreading through the land.

Give me a fucking break.

Also, I don't believe he'll damage the Oil wells.

Captain Benny's picture

Hired mercenaries are pretty easy to come by when in impoverished Africa. There is lots of evidence trickling out of Libya to show who is doing the fighting.  The people living in Libya have very clearly said that their agressors are not natives and often spoke French.  Do you know what countries in Africa speak French?  Do you know what a civil war is?  Do you understand that the people are fighting their own government in the western portion of their country and that by definition is a civil war?  Give me a fucken break that you have no brain in your head.

moldygoat's picture

Are you daft?

Halliburton bought Boots and Coots. Of course he will damage the oil wells

nwskii's picture

Obama is behind this uprising so he can sell more Chevy Volts

Pure Evil's picture

Especially after the GM IPO tanked.

dark pools of soros's picture

Tesla's IPO is tracking about the same..