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Coast Guard Says BP Saw Has Become Stuck In Riser Pipe
Hopefully JPM's prop team managed to dump all their shares in time. Breakingnews.com reports that the "Coast Guard says saw has become stuck in riser pipe in the latest effort to contain the Gulf Oil spill." Of course, all those who expressed a bullish outlook on BP today certainly foresaw this, and all future unexpected events...
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Boy didn't see this one coming. :)
Eventually 50/50 a nuke is going to have to be used, wake me up in a few years when they have that plan all ready to go. Good chance a nuke will work but there is also a chance the nuke makes it worse as well.
I bet the saw marking has "MADE IN THE U.S.A" printed on it :)
BP can't afford a saw newer than 48 years old?
No, everything we use here is Made in China, these days.
We should just outsource the whole nuclear bomb approach to the Russian govt/oligarchs.
Why not ask the Mexicans to fix it? They did it in 1980 and would probably do it cheaply as and better than we can as well.
I have no way to verify camera angles, but the shot I saw (no pun intended) yesterday, looked like they positioned the saw to cut from the bottom up. Suerly, they wouldn't have overlooked the fact that that my crimp the saw blade, would they?
Given the keystone kops team that's been working on things so far, who knows...
Anyone who had ever used a saw to cut down a tree would know that about halfway through, the cut would collapse and pinch the saw.
Now cut a wedge from the other side.
Exactly. This is why the Credit Suisse analysis is really just guess work. Since the Gulf Coast tourism and fishing industries won't survive it, I don't think BP survives this.
BOP is commencing other revenue streams. New to market is BP BBQ Lighter Starter. Each 16oz bottle comes direct from the GOM and is bottled by hand under Amercian supervision.
Pfft - who cares. Pending home sales were an upside "surprise" so it's RALLY ON!!
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June 2 (Bloomberg) -- BP Plc’s failure since April to plug a Gulf of Mexico oil leak has prompted forecasts the crude may continue gushing into December in what President Barack Obama has called the greatest environmental disaster in U.S. history.
“The worst-case scenario is Christmas time,” Dan Pickerig. the head of research at energy investor Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. in Houston, said. “This process is teaching us to be skeptical of deadlines.”
Ending the year with a still-gushing well would mean about 4 million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf, based on the government’s current estimate of 12,000 to 19,000 barrels leaking a day. That would wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf, and along hundreds of miles of coastline, said Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University.
"The worst-case scenario is Christmas time"
That is not the worse-case scenario, that is worse-case if that works.
They should be working on a plan for a nuke in case that falls through.
Obama should call Iran and ask if he can use one of their nukes.
It's faster if he asks Israel
I heard that our very own USAF has a couple o'nukes lying around, not doing anything.
See my comments below, however.
If they won't at least try to divert a big portion of the flow into empty tankers to try to mitigate the damage being done, they need to nuke it now and get it over with, already.
Sick of the worst case scenarios.
Worst case scenario? 1/3 of the seas become toxic and TEOTWAWKI. End of story.
I'm in favor of using EXPLOSIVES to close the well off. Anyone see "There Will Be Blood?" How do oilmen seal off wells? Dynamite, of course...dig a hole to the sides of the pipe, fill it with high-grade explosives and that should seal it off.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS? Maybe that would work, but I'd be in favor of conventional methods first. Why haven't they done this?
This will cost BP upwards of $30bb to $50bb before this is fully over. People along the gulf coast should be out in the streets with pitchforks.
This is death in slow motion. A new low, even for homosapiens.
The well casing itself is so damaged (possibly down to the field itself 4 miles below the sea floor) that they can't cap it in any manner without risking a blowout sideways, through the rock and dirt, the result being oil and gas popping up all over the place from the sea floor.
This was the take away from the failed "Top Kill", that the well itself is seriously damaged and won't hold pressure if it is sealed. This is why they have stopped trying to seal it from the top. This is why the relief wells are the only long term hope for stopping the oil.
"so damaged...that they can't cap it in any manner without risking a blowout sideways" - kinda like the country
You may wish to review the interaction between nukes and methane as described by the Ryskin theory. The dinosaurs asr still unhappy about the whole tar pit thing.
1 it keeps spillen and a fillen the great blue sea-black!
2 everything dies in the ocean after 2 years and nasal refugees go north to fight for food.
3.As hot oil comes out, sea water goes in. Comes to a boil down below.OOPS! have an earthquake with your fish and fries as the Gulf explodes in a gargantuan manner. A truly epic moment as the earth begins to spin faster and our day shortens into infinity.
4. We soak up the oil with printed money. Our currency has sound backing and we die. No more problem!
5. Damn i forgot the spaced aliens, me
Tigger , you have to program that thing before you post? Whiskey tango foxtrot.
My dad used to do this all the time with his chainsaw. Repeatedly. Didn't learn. *grumbles*
Yep..You can do it but you have to use wedges to keep the gap from closing up..In there case any moron knows you cut a limb or in this case a metal pipe where the weight works with you..THE TOP DOWN..Somebody is going to have to get them out of there..
wedges, we dont need no stinken wedges, we got MAN TOYS. LOL
I bet there is a lot of machismo about the use of these million dollar tools.
Often the simple way is harder but more effective. its the elbow grease and committing to the task thats missing
I say send down Erin Burnett to yap the oil back in the hole!
+100
Wait until the hurricanes spread the oil hundreds of miles inland. This oil spill might be able to kill farm land hundreds of miles inland, forests, fresh water lakes, alligators, and all of Florida. Chernobyl is still a mess, but at least its a green mess http://www.kiddofspeed.com/).
The only winners here will be the fishermen, and BP. The fishermen will get paid, but everyone that made a living off of their catch, will be destroyed. The fish warehouse? Gone. The fish restaurants? Gone. The waitresses, cooks, bus boys, etc? Gone. The tax base? Gone. The truck drivers, mechanics, parts sales people? Gone. So how will BP be a winner? They might get to buy the poisoned land for pennies on the dollar. There they can put in more wells!
Again, you may wish to pay more attention to the phytoplankton in the Gulf. I have seen no figures on this anywhere, but you may wish to lie on the beach with oxygen tanks soon.
I think there is a good chance of food inflation from this. All the protein fished from the gulf will have to be found elsewhere.
will likely create additional demand for alternate sources of protein. Look for increases in consumption (and prices) of pork, beef, chicken etc.
Im thinking the same thing but comming from problems with ships being able to navigate the mississippi river..If they are delayed due to having to be cleaned or even stopped all together food inflation is going to pop..
I was thinking of bugs. 200 million per human on earth. Anything fried or covered in sugar will go down easy.
I can see it now... a category 5, oil soaked hurricane barrelling through the gulf states.. then as it peaks in its ferocity a lightning bolt sets the bitch on fire.. now you have a giant flaming hurricane shooting fire accross the land. One giant Apocalypse Now napalm death...
Got Popcorn?
Seals 2 thru 5, all at once.
Quite an image. And it would be something to see that hit the Bible Belt. Now if only it could somehow whip all that oil up and transport it about 1000 miles inland to hit Chicago (not only the purported vacation home of the Obummer, but also of BP), that would be something.
Oh here you go. A full blown hurricane catches afire all the way to DC.
Now there is a derivative spinoff! derived and spun.
Need Russian Space Station fix!!!
And I thought the gubermint could do anything!
I hope they're working on more than one relief well. My recollection is that one of the reasons the Ixtoc disaster took so long to stop is that the first relief well helped, but it didn't solve the problem.
Even if we get lucky and seal the well by August, we're probably in for a 20-year seminar on the effects of oil on marine biosystems.
I believe they're working on two relief wells, from separate directions.
Not so many drill ships available to do more than that, I expect.
This is starting to become a Terry Thomas comedy.
BP could use the "Benny Hill" theme music at its press conferences, to set the tone.
Works for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc5_3B5xdk&feature=related
The man was brilliant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MyT6d4FWpw
It was obvious last night when the cut began that the saw was placed improperly, since the bent riser section was positioned to one side of the cut. The saw should have been placed on the opposite side of the weight of the bent riser, so the as the cut progressed the weight of the pipe would have opened the cut, not pinched the blade.
Moronic.
Maybe they can use a rope to pull the other way. HHEEEELLLLOOOOOOOO!
I was thinking the same thing last night. There was obvious pressure on the riser from the bent pipe (even though it had been cut short) and even though they had a sling holding up the short section of bent riser, how exactly do you measure the bending force from a mile underwater?
Ask anyone who cuts trees for a living. You let the tree do the work for you and you use the tree's natural lean to open the cut if at all possible. Metal is actually more efficientat transmitting internal stress than trees so they should have been thinking of this if a novice like me was. I think they positioned the saw for the best possible camera view from the other ROV, not for the best possible result.
I didnt see the final bind but the several I saw were fucking perfect. You'd think multiple engineers would have to sign off before the cut was made. Poor bastards opened pandora's boxer.
live feed from bp.com is down.
uh ohs...
How can the damn thing get stuck? It's got to be the most lubricated saw blade in the history of the world!
+10 :)
ba ha ha ha thank you for that
Totally!
a cut above the rest, with teeth and a nice spin
three chord sloth,
Loved it!!
DavidC
Dont know if that is always the same coast guard... If yes, this guy has seen things and is a well-informed person.
Kind of want to go long on a swing trade
Well, as long as you have what's important in mind, by all means. A region of the country is dying, let's see how we can profit shall we? No wasted crisis, right? You are a person that deserves this kleptocracy, it suits you just fine in my opinion.
Umm, I went long based on a technical setup, a bounce and am in no way profiting off "a region of the country that is dying" - just the volatility that comes with it.
If you are trolling, then excellent job sir. If not, then you should know better than to have a problem with taking a trade such as this, especially on a finance blog.
CC. I so long for the day money doesnt matter and people actually care about the other guy MORE than themselves. Those seeking to profit on misfortune will find their own. Karma
Hasn't getting something stuck in the pipe been their objective all along?
Yeah,
Hoping it's a really broad saw blade that got stuck and we're halfway there
LMAO
The bummer is that it's a diamond encrusted chain! No help at all.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6541
RETURN OF THE TOXIC AVENGER:
http://williambanzai7.blogspot.com/2010/06/return-of-toxic-avenger.html
I was discussing this oil leak situation with an experienced geologist. The nuclear device option is NOT a smart idea and in fact could make the leak much worse than it currently is. They must maintain the integrity of the rock bed and riser....anything the would risk destabilization of such is risky. The only safe option is the relief wells. As bad as the oil slick is, the oil spill consequence may not be as bad as the media makes it out to be. For one, oil is not a man-made product and it is biodegradable. The fortunate aspect of this leak is that it is in a very hot climate - therefore making the oil degrade at a faster pace. If this occurred in the arctic - it would be much, much worse. The dispersants are probably making the situation worse.
Many things are biodegradable. Doesnt mean a high dose of them are easy to digest.
"As bad as the oil slick is, the oil spill consequence may not be as bad as the media makes it out to be."
Are you kidding, are you fucking kidding me? You don't know shit, ok, you got that? A whole region is about to die, and you spew this conjecture?
How dare you!
+1000 - I think the media may be downplaying this one if anything -
He's right about the biodegradable part. In another 6-7 thousand years we'll be looking back laughing at this.
What a dork.
I'll take a flyer on minimizing as well. This is still as nothing compared to the size of the body of water, nevermind the oceans, or the planet. It sucks to see all that oil go to waste and even more so a vital, productive company destroyed by a moment of inattention on top of bad luck.
The well failure was not the result of "a moment of inattention." It was the result of failing to use double casing on the well, failing to install redundant POP's, failing to specify the stronger material for the cementing, and on top of all that, failing to head the results of tests which are mandatory and produced unacceptable results. This is one of the largest and highest-pressure oil reservoirs in the world. And BP repeatedly chintzed. As for a previous comment, the explosives would not damage the riser, but rather the well casing. Further, with 15,000 feet from sea-floor to reservoir, well-planned explosives can succeed. The amount of crude being dumped is huge and the gulf is shallow. The ration of pollutant to sea-water is actually becoming very high.
"It sucks to see all that oil go to waste and even more so a vital, productive company destroyed by a moment of inattention on top of bad luck."
dude! I know, I feel the same way about Eyeraq
Relax....the world is not ending. Just saying it is best to educate yourself with such matters before employing the famous American "just nuke it" clause. Would you rather have 20,000 barrels leaking per day or 200,000? . I guess Fort Macmurray tarsand oil is no longer as "dirty" as people think it is.... We are just trying to "clean up" a naturally occuring oil spill up here.
Are you saying our best friend and confidant, the russians, would steer us the wrong way.
Although Bush did stare Putin in the eyes and sees his goodness.
He saw into the "soul" of an russian. FAIL. 8 years of that shit and "condy" was a russian "expert". She could have told dumb ass russians dont have souls.
Yes, good ole condy. Where is she now?
And just clarify, russians refers to their leaders only. Sure you meant the same.
Per sourcewatch.org:
In March 2009, Rice returned to Stanford University in California, and its Hoover Institution. "Her new role on campus will start less formally, with guest lectures, seminars and personal writing projects," including two books for which she reportedly has "a $2.5 million contract with Crown Publishers." Rice plans to teach courses on "international politics, with a focus on decision-making. Specifically, she seeks to teach 'decision simulation,' where students are pressed to think about real-life questions and choices and not just abstract policy. She told the campus newsletter Stanford Report that she would enjoy teaching a simulation of the Russian invasion of Georgia." [1]
You can add your own joke on that last bullet point.
Oh, and she's probably on craigslist trolling for someone who's into angry republican lesbians...
Who the f&*^ would read a book by Condi, or any of these other hyenas? Oh, and there's a Chevron tanker named after her.
bush saw a man who could use the central intelligence agency, the energy industry, and his country's resource to enrich himself, and he saw love
Funny, I was also discussing the spill and "nuke option" with an experienced geologist (30 years, drilling, deep holes), certainly not the same one you were talking with, and he was telling me that the idea of using a nuke to "Fix" the problem was basically insane. Something about fracturing enormous amounts of rock and creating millions of new channels for oil to leak up instead of just the one channel through the borehole.
He also said that the relief wells were the only realistic fix, and that drilling technology should allow those to work - eventually. Not a fast fix.
The thinking being that the many cracks would be filled with the sediment that is carried with the oil, eventually slowing or stopping the flow.
Interesting idea, but intuitively I don't see it working, and this really doesn't seem like the time for experimental approaches.
If I were going to spend money on one fix at this time, it would be finding more drill ships to drill additional relief/kill wells, in the hopes that one of them would hit the existing borehole on the first attempt. One or two relief wells that hit will fix the problem, but you are trying to hit a 10" target more than two miles below the seafloor, coming in from an angle from a mile away horizontally... the fact that it's even possible is amazing, but a direct hit on the first shot isn't likely.
A long time ago I worked as an apprentice under certain engineers . This one guy would always seem to get caught up in all kinds of problems no matter what job we were on .His solution was always the same . " Go to my tool box and get the big fuckin hammer."
He was let go from the company for his incompetence. I am now wondering if he is working at BP. I will know if I see a big fuckin hammer underwater in the robots arm.
I've tried writing something intelligible for almost five minutes now, and all that comes out are expletives.
I have family in SE TX and S LA who work the refineries.
I'm seriously about to lose my shit.
Do something, do anything, please, for the love of all things holy stand up for yourselves. Stop working, stop paying taxes, stop paying the mortgage.... Speak in a language these criminals can understand. Please. Please, stand up before it's too late. The captured governments, the crooked corporations, the corrupt two party system... They don't give a shit about you and me. Stand up.
If you want to incentivize BP executives, give them jail time.
Until then, they'll umm and ahh and fuck around, because the mess is not on their side of the Pond. But when the executives start to believe orange jumpsuit ensembles are in their near future, BP will actually do something effective.
CC...we're all dying, act accordingly.
Crab Cake: I feel your pain, and have lots of friends in the effected area, but - this isn't about Govt - it's about the collapse of professional standards. They had no "worst case scenario". Same as what brought on the financial collapse. It was all "happy case planning".
A different government structure, or the proper execution of justice, would not address this basic problem. Gotta engineer for failure, or else. This is the "or else" part. The engineers who signed off on this should be strung up in the public square.
Yes, worst case planning promotes negativity. We can't have any of that.
There is no ice ahead, if there is our ship will bust the ice up. All engines ahead, full power!
Not the engineers. Management.
Example: Challenger space shuttle disaster. The two engineers at Morton Thiokol who knew the most about O-ring technology were overruled by their higher paid shit-for-brains management (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster):
"The engineers at Thiokol also argued that the low overnight temperatures would almost certainly result in SRB temperatures below their redline of 40 °F (4 °C). However, they were overruled by Morton Thiokol management, who recommended that the launch proceed as scheduled"
Remember, this was a LIFE OR DEATH situation, and the EXPERTS were overruled.
Put management fuck-ups in jail. THEN you will see dramatic improvements in safety records.
Yeah, you know it dude. I can only imagine those execs bitching on how much it was going to cost to delay the launch.
If you feel my pain then you know that this is so much bigger than a collapse of professional standards, or one corrupt and captured government.
Look around. Our world is shit. The illusions that most of us have been comfortably blanketed with our whole lives are just that, illusions. We, the bottom 90%, are nothing but consuming taxstock for the bottom line.
Representation? A captured government, and two corrupted parties.
Justice? A police state, and a buggy whip for the lower and middle classes.
Truth? Lies and spin.
America? A corporatist expansionist empire, one nation under the Fed.
I could go on, but I feel sick...
CC, "Don't let the bastards get you down"
Sporb - I can tell you that you can trust the engineers. It's the fucktard middle mgrs paying more attn to revenue related delays than any safety issues. The engineers probably didn't sign off on any of this, but some mgmt twerp at the well head decided to chuck the plan and make (the last) executive decision of his life.
Crab Cake,
Be at cause on this where ever you can. Give your relatives any support they need, and yes, let people know that it's better to walk away than spend life as a debt slave.
Don't forget to take a walk and see the goodness in life. Pick some flowers and pet some puppies, you'll feel better. Sometimes the internet can get your knickers in a twist.
I've never understood why people say that shit. Why should I stop working, paying my mortgage or my taxes? Why should I 'cut off my nose to spite my face'? Have you stopped working (or were you laid off)? Stand up to what? The elites laugh at us especially when they hear that kind of nonsense. You need a stiff drink or a valium or something, calm down and think through what you said above. Why should people you'll never meet listen and lose everything they have just cause you say/suggest to do so?????
do you moonlight as a support group leader?
I say things like that, because doing "shit" like that enables the kleptocracy.
Hey, if you're happy about the state of affairs, and you feel like your vote actually matters; then by all means don't sacrifice anything.
The elites won't laugh if a decent sized minority, or even a small majority, work/tax strike I assure you.
Actually, the elites are laughing at you because you soldier on no matter how much shit they dump on you. Hilarious!
I'm telling you to listen because there is no other way, it's violent or peaceful revolution at this point. If you don't feel that way tune me out. If you want a violent revolution, more power to you. If you are looking for a peaceful way to bring TPTB to heel, then maybe you should listen. God forbid you lose your job or your house to save your country, the horror.
If the saw was stuck - it is a blessing in disguise as it will block some of the flow. Where the blade has cut through, BP engineers need to slide in more thin blades of that saw to block the flow of oil. Now they can build on that blockage to block it some more.
In my best Mr T voice: Fool, the pressure is so high that a thin blade will get sheared off by the oil before it gets halfway through. That is why they are using a diamond wire saw.
And by the way the diamond wire was sheared off by the oil flow last night. The lack of thought by the rescue engineers is breathtaking.
People will have to be moved somewhere.
Further North, maybe much further. Canada?
There's oil up there too. Got any more like that one?
The Canadians are already doing a bang-up job of despoiling northern Alberta with the oil sands project, thanks.
OK, I saw the BP live feed.
My question is why has no one taken the bolts off the top of the blowout preventer and bolted a new blowout preventer over the old one? That is what is normally done above ground. The underwater tools are capable of turning the bolts, or they can shear them or freeze them with LN2.
All this cutting and sawing is a joke. The US is screwed with all the incompetence.
"The US is screwed with all the incompetence."
Some shit sinks to the bottom, some shit floats to the top.
Actually this is looking more like a scripted diversion.
Have a look at this film, where the Russians had to nuke a blowout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpPNQoTlacU
Assuming that everyone is competent, what is actually happening is that the blowout is really in the casing below the surface of the ocean bottom and seeping out like the Russian blowout.
What we are being shown is a diversion and sideshow, to draw attention away from the real problem. Unless the relief wells can take this out, there will be no diminution until pressure is relieved. This is all meant to appear that everyone is doing what they can, and that no one really wants to cap the well or oil will be coming out everywhere and will be impossible to stop, and will destroy the whole field.
Given the instability of the seabed, nukes may not be the right answer. However, I think the real reason is that they don't want to irradiate such a large, juicy oil/gas supply.
Check the film out again. The oil and gas are not made radioactive. The key is finding a capping layer and setting the explosive at the right point below the capping layer. Salt domes will do nicely.
Besides if you are so concerned about radiation, the C14 from cars and oil fired power plants is a big issue. If anyone ever offers you a brazilnut you best run away from its big dose of radiation. There is enough radioactive material in one or two brazilnuts to set off the alarms at the entrance to a nuclear power plant. All natural by the way, from the monazite sands that they grow in.
Not so much. But you might want to stay on a different planet from any coal-burning power plants, since they emit far more radiation, through uranium traces in the coal, than anything else we're currently doing including all nuclear power plants worldwide. Roughly 1000 tons/year globally of uranium emissions from coal, if I remember correctly from an article at The Oil Drum.
Anyone who has ever felled a heavy tree with a chain saw foresaw this. That's why you cut in wedges so the weight of what you're cutting doesn't jam the blade. These guys don't sound too thoughtful sometimes.
What would happen if the hurricane season comes and arrives to the Gulf area
Are we gonna see oil flying all over the place
Get a grip girls. This is verging on eco-paranoia.
It's oil; natural, organic - and very biodegradable.
Yes; it's messy and extremely bad news for wildlife, but it oozes out of the seabed in many parts of the world - and always has done. Amazingly - nature copes.
The more volatile fractions evaporate; most of the rest quickly emulsifies with the water, is then eaten by bacteria and the lumps of, sticky, tarry residue either sink to the bottom, or eventually wash up on a shore where UV radiation slowly breaks them down.
Even huge tanker spills more than 60 miles offshore just disappear before making landfall - and they're far bigger than this dribble and happen all at once.
Far from making it worse; a hurricane would clear it all away. When the Braer went aground on the Shetland Isles; after only one stormy night, not only was there no sign of the 80,000 TONS of oil - there was no trace of the ship either. www.iosc.org/papers/00193.pdf
A few PAHs in silt was the only trace that cargo ever existed. When this blowout is eventually stopped, everything will get back to normal in just a few days and the wildlife will eventually recover.
You're serious aren't you?
Yes; oil has spilled from wells and tankers hundreds of times - and at a far higher rate than this leak, although it definitely holds the depth record. [The Braer spill was twice the size of the Exxon Valdez and that oil disappeared literally overnight.]
The press screamed: "It's the end of our way of life" every single time. Flocks of wailing enviro-mentalists preaching doom to gullible reporters on every beach.
A few days, or months, later it was hard to find any visual evidence that it had ever happened - nature is actually very good at clearing up our mess, our puny efforts usually make it worse.
I'm not overlooking the disastrous and distressing effects on the wildlife, but they are mostly resilient and numbers recover back into balance with their food resources over time.
Plenty of back-up evidence on Google - from the Torrey Canyon onwards.
Yep, biodegradable, which will turns much of the Gulf of Mexico waters into an oxygen-free zone. Fish all die, bye bye (http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m5d17-Good-an...)
BP executives' options still vest, so STFU, there's nothing to worry about.
No body of water is homogenous; it's stratified vertically and broken into currents and eddies horizontally.
Yes; there will be localized dead zones where the oil emulsion has caused bacterial population explosions to use up all the oxygen; but fish are brighter than they look, tend to be hyper-aware of water quality and most will avoid such patches.
Many will indeed die, but not all - and few things exceed the breeding recovery rate of fish.
radical thought i know, but do you think these fish that you claim are all going to die might, oh I don't know, swim away to somewhere else??!!!
Damn, I forgot. It's only a small spill, affecting a small well-contained area. It will be fixed Real Soon Now.
The fish can just move out of the way. Smart thinking.
http://tvnewswatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/gulf-leak-worse-than-exxon-valde...
...Experts fear that due to factors such as petroleum toxicity and oxygen depletion, it will result in an environmental disaster, damaging the Gulf of Mexico fishing industry, the tourism industry, and the habitat of hundreds of bird species for years to come...
I'll take YOUR word for it over an expert's, ANY day.
Have you thought of a career in management? I'm sure BP is hiring. Your radical ideas will be right at home.
The Prince William sound shoreline is still contaminated a few inches below the surface. The goal of Exxon was to only clean what was visible. This oil is not "weathering" so it will remain deadly for years to come. Many species have not returned to the sound.
Yes; their cosmetic efforts would have concentrated only on the visible effects - thereby dispersing the oil and driving it deeper, away from the light.
At those frozen latitudes it will take decades before the buried oil breaks down and stops tainting the water - at least the GoM is nice and warm with plenty of hot sunshine.
So, what does it say when a stuck saw could cause 10's of million stock value loss...maybe, you were living on the edge...
Is something looking bullish ?
http://stockmarket618.wordpress.com
http://www.zerohedge.com/forum/latest-market-outlook-1
My thoughts:
Geopolitical, and these are just interesting what ifs I am throwing out:
Opinion on Fixes assuming this is real (just conjecture):
Here's something to read about what a hurricane may do with this oil spill from the horizon. Many scientists don't really know, but they do know that hurricanes can move and evaporate salts and microorganisms (hmmm, if they have mass they can have oil on them too) hundreds of miles inland.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1492