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Commerzbank Pulling Greek Repos, Lehman Deja Vu As Greece Shifts To Full Blown Liquidity Crisis Mode

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And so the Greek funding crisis shifts to a liquidity crisis yet again. Bankingnews.gr reports that Commerzbank, among many others, is now pulling its repos with Greek banks, essentially killing liquidity in the entire financial system. Cue Lehman Brothers and Sunday CDS trading. At least it's not Friday so OTC traders don't have to worry they will be pulled from their Hamptons retreat. The Greek website is reporting that according to sources, Commerzbank which is one of the biggest repo counterparties to Greek institutions, was dumping bonds in yesterday's sell off. Not only that, but it is now pulling repos, in essence starting a cascade of asset liquidation, in which banks, already experiencing a depositor run, will be forced to sell assets at any prices they can get just to fund their operations for one extra day.

A Google Translated version of the Bankingnews piece:

According to information Commerzbank was concerned about the Greek bonds accepted as guarantees of Greek bonds. Commerzbank has provided some liquidity to Greek banks are more concerned about the Greek bonds. Based on a reliable source in the recent past, foreign banks have applied to withdraw repo with Greek banks even offer powerful bonus.

The piece concludes:

Foreigners do not want to have in their portfolios Greek bonds. It is now clear.

We could not have said it any better.

 


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Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:06 | Link to Comment Cookie
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Oh dear

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Asimov
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"Here we go."

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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end hoo iss yoo calling ze NAZI biz-nitch gehunden flicke??

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Ragnarok
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Somebody's rocking the boat.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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Accident?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:19 | Link to Comment vote_libertaria...
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Everybody will be rioting and there will be banks runs...and everybody will have an IPad to watch movies while in line.

 

...as AAPL is at all time highs again today.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:22 | Link to Comment HarryWanger
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And a cnbc.com they're calling for a pullback....after SPX hits 1300 in September.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:21 | Link to Comment CookieMonster
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Better have Israel nuke Iran, quick! We need a distraction......

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Commander Cody
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This must, in some way, be good for equities.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:24 | Link to Comment HarryWanger
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Certainly won't hurt. Ben about to speak in a bit and markets will go green once again. Even after we hear the same thing we heard yesterday in the FOMC minutes, market will act like it's the greatest news ever and rally.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:40 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Of course... meltup by that tsunami of liquidity exiting bonds, and it simply has no alternative but to go into stocks.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:37 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Just have to get with the program...

If commodities are higher, it's a sign of a healthy economy and should be taken as a bullish green shoot.

If commodities are lower, it frees consumers from a stealth tax and allows them to spend more on cyclicals and discretionaries.

 

So, like I was saying...

Foreign sovereign debt failures push money into the US bond market. This drives down yields, pushing investors into risk assets as a safe haven. The resulting lower rates are passed through to consumers.

See, this is a fun game.

 

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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Hey, why all the cynicism?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:25 | Link to Comment sigmonster
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Why can't AAPL issue greek bonds. The company can solve all demand problems by throwing in a free ipad with all bond purchases. This can give a whole new meaning to ibond.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:38 | Link to Comment stewie
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LOL!

+1

 

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:28 | Link to Comment bugs_
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This is a big f*ckin deal!

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:49 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Well, yes.

So is California.  Illinois.  Florida.  New York.

So is the 100 x gold apparent fraud.

So is the $2 trillion deficit.

So is our huge (who's numbers do you use) debt.

So is the coming tax hike.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:34 | Link to Comment doggis
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what game are the oligarchs playing? the disconnect between these events and the equity markets has a bad peutrid smell to it.  me smells "buy the dips" financial engineering at work here -aka GS with an end goal to manufacture a financial equity market collapse.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:41 | Link to Comment rubearish10
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Looks like you're right sir! There's just no such thing as selling US Equities.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:56 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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It would be, except that there are no longer even any dips to buy.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Squid-puppets a...
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nup. this is the oligarchy's engineers petrified that the machine has stopped working, and beating each other with their monkey wrenches in blame

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Looking forward to the RBS article pointing out the 'hysteria in the blogosphere'  surrounding the pending default.  Wonder if they've managed to liquidate any of their positions.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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Asset sales at any price?  Put me down for a Gyro plate with rice.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:36 | Link to Comment docj
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And here... we... go!

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:52 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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I'll join you watching the world burn down if you will join me in the cheap seats section.  In the bleachers is fine.

Seems like the cliff comes ever closer each day.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:02 | Link to Comment docj
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Swim out past the breakers, watch the world die.

Yeah, I'm with you.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Bonesetter Brown
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"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

Does this mean there is some "World CDS" I can get in on?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:41 | Link to Comment sweet ebony diamond
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i asked this question before. how does the greek government know what islands it owns.

http://gogreece.about.com/od/greekrealestate/a/registergreece.htm

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:44 | Link to Comment truont
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Advice for Greeks--please close your gaping mouths before the SHTF.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:44 | Link to Comment KidHorn
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Isn't this the same thing that happened to Bear Stearns right before they went for $2?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:53 | Link to Comment deadparrot
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Don't you get it. Equities are going up in order to entice some more dumb money into equities. Pros need to cooperate and create a perception of a risk-free, ever-rising equity market to get the suckers to buy. Who do you expect them to sell their over-valued shares to, each other? That only works for so long.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:59 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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I can't read this anti-Greek propaganda. You guys have no idea about what is going on in Greece. It's actually disconcerting reading this nonsense. Even Greek television hit it on the head this morning: the crisis right now is mostly psychological. Get over Greece, and keep your eye on the real debt woes developing in the United States.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Stranger
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The crisis may be psychological, it's still going to axe-murder Greece.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:14 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Leo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dISKvZetkQI&NR=1

All crises are mostly psychological.

Love ya, little Buddy!

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:11 | Link to Comment CookieMonster
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Interesting point but I would think that the squids are using this as a TEST CASE for what you are saying. No need to waste a good liquidity crises, eh???

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Ripped Chunk
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All economic crisis is psychological.

Not sure what you are trying to point out? 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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A crisis of confidence, kind of like 2008? Won't a liqudity tsunami fix that?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:23 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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I'm reading carefully over this and I don't really see anything that would constitute anti-Greek propaganda, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

 

I think the significance of Greece is as a template for what happens to other insolvent states. So far, it has resembled Argentina, where it was very important to be the first to panic.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:29 | Link to Comment zero intelligence
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Greece by itself is relatively small (if you can call $364B+ of debt outstanding "relatively small").

However, it isn't "psychological."

Nothing psychological about either their immense budget deficit or their immense debt/gdp, or their immense inability to correct either problem without the shock of a default.

We're watching Greece because of the timing. It's like Bear Stearns, or the RMBS CDOs breaking down. At which point do the problems that everyone knows about become a market event?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:27 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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The 'psychology' part of it is the extent to which one is able to suppress concern over the reality of insolvency.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:35 | Link to Comment BS Inc.
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I can't read this anti-Greek propaganda. You guys have no idea about what is going on in Greece. It's actually disconcerting reading this nonsense.

Now you know how I feel reading your "solars" crap.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:48 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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Today may not be the best day to make that point.

http://www.tickerspy.com/newswire/?p=1887

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:59 | Link to Comment chet
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Banking is psychological, Leo.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 17:52 | Link to Comment MacedonianGlory
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Λ?ο, λες βλακε?ες.

Leo, put your foot in your mouth and stop all these crap about brave Greeks. Greek people are in agony bacause of a totally incompetent government. Rumors about bankruptcy reminds to the oldest the years of 1946 and 1953. Government only speculates and media propaganda says that IMF is the only sollution since the EU dosn't lend more money to the corrupt system that governs. 

Something teribly wrong is happening to Greece and there is no hope anymore.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 11:59 | Link to Comment Postal
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July my ass. They're going to be lucky to make it to Monday.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:03 | Link to Comment moldygoat
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how was I just watching live video from a building with a power failure. I guess they needed some people to go and look at this shitstorm. The USA is a banana republic.

Pull the "power outage trick", why not the fire alarm.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Rainman
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This Greek debt crisis is like the story of Lazarus rising from the dead over and over. But sooner or later even Lazarus had to end up in the hole.

I think I'll dust off my Dow 10,000 hat. It's been sitting idle a while.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:06 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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GS up 3.80 as their Hellenic CDS portfolio blossoms.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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From Athens News (Buy when there is fear! That's what smart money is doing):

NBG gets Danish thumbs-up Issue No. 13384   Copenhagen    Danske Invest recently bought shares in National Bank of Greece (NBG), fund adviser Anders Hornbak said in a Danske Invest newsletter received on March 30.   NBG shares fell 55 percent between October 15 and February 9, while the Stoxx 600 European bank index  lost 22 percent in the same period. Greece stunned markets in October when it revealed that its 2009 budget deficit for 2009 would be 12.7 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) - over twice the previous estimate and more than four times the 3 percent ceiling imposed by the European Union. In the latest stock market upward leg, which set in on February 9, NBG has narrowly outperformed European peers . The bank is running a healthy business. Loans are fully covered by deposits and a big part of revenue is coming from Turkey where the economy is growing strongly,” Hornbak said.   The NBG Group’s loan-to-deposit ratio was 97 percent at end-2009, according to the bank’s 2009 results statement.   “Even though the Greek state is heavily indebted, Greek households have not taken on as much debt as is the case in countries such as Spain, Portugal and Ireland,” Hornbak added. Danske Invest, with nearly $60 billion worth of assets under management in over 200 funds, is part of Denmark’s biggest lender, Danske Bank.
Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:18 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Buy some bonds, Leo. Buy that yield. Call Bill Miller, he will probably want some too.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:57 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Oh, I don't think anyone here is fearful.

 

We're laughing at the superior intellect, Khan.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Augustus
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The households can just trust the government to take on that debt for them.  Welcome to the new normal.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:18 | Link to Comment MAGICWIZARD
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well said rainman, well said.....

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:19 | Link to Comment economists_do_i...
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Can you really trust the management at NBG?  During this crisis, they're opening up a new subsidiary.  What wonderful timing...

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Leo Kolivakis
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Umm, maybe they do not se the crisis that all of you traders are seeing on your Bloomberg screens. Ladies and gents, Greece is alive and kicking. I can assure you that the average Greek doesn't give a fuck about the traders on Wall Street engaged in trading masturbation.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Leo, so are the every day citizens in Iceland. What is your point?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:29 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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He who panics last gets fucked.  You  look good with your yield-rally hat on, Leo.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:17 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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I think we've established that Greece's leadership is batspit insane.

Hopefully, the average Greek will have the wisdom to vote out or kick out anyone who chooses appeasement of foreign banks over its citizenry.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Bonesetter Brown
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Leo,

Dick Fuld was going to skull f*** the shorts at one time.

I have healthy respect for your liquidity arguments, and I think you are given way too much grief on this site.  But the Greek situation is just a case of weak hands being forced, and comparing this situation to the US states really misses what is going on here.  A number of European sovereigns are headed into default or bailout.  Greece is only the first.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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the reality is, whether you like it or not, that IF repos are getting pulled, depositors will follow.

Greece's survival is NOT an entitlement.

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:28 | Link to Comment wagefreedom
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Anyone else find it interesting that the Euro is getting only slightly hit by all this?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Yeah, spanish market up all day. Weird.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:37 | Link to Comment pat.heili@gmail.com
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Completely out of record but I really love Greece and if you want to relax a little bit have a look at this webcam. At this time, the night is coming but if you're lucky you will assist at an arrival of a boat. distressing

 

http://www.tvchannelsfree.com/watch/6471/Parika-Paros-Webcam.html

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 12:58 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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"Athens. The two major trade unions in Greece – the General Confederation of the Employees in the Public sector (ADEDI) and the General Confederation of Greek Workers (GSEE) are on high alert and are getting ready for new wave of strikes and protests over the draft bill for reforms in the pension-insurance system, Greek Express daily reports.

State employees have already planned a protest meeting in downtown Athens on Thursday, while on Friday there will be a sitting of the general council of ADEDI, which is very likely to declare a strike on April 20 – 22."

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n215725

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:10 | Link to Comment docj
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Today, Athens.

Tomorrow, Sacramento and Albany.

Soon, coming to a state capitol near you.

I'm dealing with it on the local level - we have (unionized) teachers in contract negotiations saying they "won't accept" anything less than +3% per year locked-in for the next 3-years.  The chief negotiator for the town tossed them the business section from the Boston Globe and told them they may want to have a look at what's going on in the dreaded private sector.  The MTA hack's response?  They couldn't care less what's going on in the dreaded private sector, they want their f---ing raise.

This is going to be about as much fun as a prostate exam.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:31 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Unionized public sector employees rioting... could there be anything less likely to garner support? 

Unless, perhaps, they were Taliban firing on unarmed puppies from attack helicopters.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Stranger
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Unions don't need support. They just need fear.

Politicians will always make the most convenient, short-term choice available. Unions exploit this by creating fear of chaos.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:02 | Link to Comment ignorant
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Lets see wht the the man writes in his article

""

According to information....

Based on a reliable source in the recent past....

Foreigners do not want to have in their portfolios Greek bonds. It is now clear.

""

Can you guys as pro, rely on such idiotic assumptions. amazing.

and a tip,  consider tht the same man on Oct last year was for days  promoting and strongly suggesting as an opportunity thru TV for people to enter in asset raising and buy shares of a greek bank at 12-13euro by tht time. Next couple of months was region 7euro.

Very clear indeed.  

 

 

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:16 | Link to Comment RunningMan
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Two ways to print money. (1) Treasury auctions which are starting to look dicey, and (2) get banks to pump market no matter how ugly the news and go massively short right before the rug gets pulled out. No one gets hurt because the investors are on the sidelines, right? Greece is a sideshow before the main event.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 14:09 | Link to Comment stewie
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I fail to understand how (2) creates money?  Better is:

(1) Banks extend loans

(2) Fed expand balance sheet.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:28 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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By definition, the swan is now being hatched somewhere other than Greece.

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:34 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Will Mamouns stay open?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:48 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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This will get really hot just in time for the weekend.

Then 48 hours for the real money to bail out or hedge to the moon.

Then "Implosion Monday"

Did I miss anything?

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 13:52 | Link to Comment tom
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Leo, I suppose I'm making a rash assumption based solely on your last name, but it seems to me you're letting your ethnic pride interfere with your financial judgments. If your point is that Greece still has a relatively good future and there are some buying opportunities there, go for it. If your point is that Greek state finances and the Greek banking system are not in as bad a shape as the market thinks, you're fooling yourself. They are in even worse shape.

I think Greece should get it over with, just default now and push through a tough restructuring deal, and slash like crazy to completely eliminate the fiscal deficit. It's not the end of the world, and brings recovery a whole hell of a lot faster. What is trashing Greece's reputation are all these revelations about the previous government's dishonesty to private bond markets and now the current government's protracted effort to extort bailout money out from the EU and IMF with threats of riots.

("Any danger that they'll cross the Balkans or the Adriatic?" "Uh, no, definitely not, sir." "Well, let 'em riot, then.")

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 14:11 | Link to Comment stewie
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Replace Greece with US and your paragraph still makes sense :o)

Wed, 04/07/2010 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Fire up the vaporizer, get the popcorn, grab a beer and watch the zombie dance party as it moves fully into mutual consumption time.

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