Comparison Of North And South Korea's Military Capabilities

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Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:15 | 751143 litoralkey
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North Korea Uncovered – (Google Earth)

The most authoritative map of North Korea on Google Earth
Version 18: June 25, 2009


Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:18 | 751148 Black Friday
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Cool, thanks for this!

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:27 | 751166 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Waterslide next to residence. AHAHAHA!!!

After he is done starving his civil servants he goes to the waterpark.  Nixon was a bowler, Obama shoots rock, Kim Jung Il does the slip and slide.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:35 | 751199 nmewn
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Has some young enterprising reporter asked former president Carter's opinion of North Korea's meteoric rise in nuclear arms capabilities over the last couple decades?

I thought not ;-) 

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:40 | 751211 Fred Hayek
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The South Park guys had a more realistic take on their leader in Team America (fuck yeah!) than Carter did.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:53 | 751241 nmewn
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Have not seen it...I'll look it up.

I seem to recall Carter doing a "peace in our time" campaign in which he (unofficially) opened up North Korea's nuke program...for peaceful purposes of course ;-)

Binging Team America now...LOL.


Tue, 11/23/2010 - 23:37 | 751351 Careless Whisper
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maybe you're thinking of mister rumsfeld, who sold them two nuke plants:

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 00:13 | 751445 Jager06
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Your a tool. I was in the room when Sec State Albright was ordered by Clinton to hand over the light water nukes and a gazillion barrels of oil to support the North until the nuke plants were operational. Capitulation over Capitalism. Hmmm....I think I remember former SecDef Perry in the room as well.

This round of saber rattling will get them whatever they want from Obummer, who has no logical plans for dealing with a challenge to his "God of all things" status. He can't even handle a heckler during his teleprompter reading sessions.


Wed, 11/24/2010 - 02:50 | 751745 jeff montanye
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could it be there is toolhood to spare?  looks to me like a "bipartisan" approach got us to where we are.  forty plus years with an actually armed to the teeth ussr and we can't wait a few more to watch a dead broke, truly puny failed state completely fail?  possibly not.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 07:35 | 751892 Slartibartfast
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Ain't hindsight beautiful?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 09:38 | 752011 mrgneiss
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I don't think a Gorbachev is going to show up in North Korea anytime soon.  We let Afganistan fail spectacularly, and look what happened.  They are exporting ballistic and nuke technology to all our enemies, and all it would take it is one or two EMP's and game over America.  And I'm not partisan, I'm Canadian. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 08:32 | 751929 alpha60
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did she already have the albright group cards printed up, with a price list for 'strategic support' of your business.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 15:11 | 753106 sgt_doom
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True, but had Rumsfeld been a true patriot -- which that traitor never was -- he would have resigned his highly remunerative directorship on ABB after those sales to North Korea.

Otherwise, point taken.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 07:49 | 751899 New_Meat
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The vessels and any number of other parts are sitting in a warehouse in tax-free New Hampshire. - Ned

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:53 | 751664 Anonymouse
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Meant to post this here


I believe this is the clip you want.  2nd best in the whole movie, right after the one following the line "I promise I will never die"

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 03:56 | 751803 i-dog
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This is my favourite ... with Hans Brix: "Herro, Hans. Rice to see you again".

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 06:22 | 751862 nmewn
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Thanks Anonymouse.

The poor despotic psycho does seem lonely...maybe he can order his people to hold a parade in his honor to boost his spirits ;-) 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:21 | 751603 StychoKiller
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What, no private Pr0n theater?  How disappointing! :>D

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:34 | 751194 litoralkey
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Got another resource by GoogleEarth community users

Bluffer's guide: Fortress North Korea

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 23:14 | 751299 Thanatos
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Here is a great resource on all things Military:

Extensive sections on Korea(s)


Wed, 11/24/2010 - 14:35 | 752983 Rusty Shorts
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U.S.S. George Washington Carrier Group leaves Japan bound for Korea.



Fri, 11/26/2010 - 20:50 | 756634 The PolyCapitalist
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Hopefully it includes artillery, which is missing from the AP's interactive military map.

Seoul is very close to the DMZ and well within range N. Korea's massive artillery capability.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:57 | 752454 zevulon
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Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:17 | 751146 Black Friday
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How they get such accurate numbers on a country that I can't even find on google street view. If google doesn't know, who does? :O

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:21 | 751160 HarryWanger
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They can't get accurate numbers. Kind of reminds me of Saddam's zillion man army. All ran away when the shit hit the fan.

Now that the saber rattling effect has died down, Asia is bright green and futures here are running much higher. We're setting up for a low volume rally tomorrow.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:15 | 751592 LowProfile
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Saber rattling...  Over 200 shells were exchanged, you twat.

And Asia is up 0.5%.  What was it down yesterday, twat?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 02:55 | 751752 jeff montanye
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200 shells is saber rattling.  stock markets go down for many reasons and these exchanges have quite a few of them.  why is twat a bad thing?  certainly got a lot of junks though.  insufficiently high blood lust?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 08:46 | 751938 Tortfeasor
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5 points on the futures...moonshot!

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:18 | 751150 Fraud-Esq
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They say...

Pyongyang, November 23 (KCNA) -- The Supreme Command of the Korean People's Army Tuesday released the following communique: 
  The south Korean puppet group perpetrated such reckless military provocation as firing dozens of shells inside the territorial waters of the DPRK side around Yonphyong Islet in the West Sea of Korea from 13:00 on Nov. 23 despite the repeated warnings of the DPRK while staging the war maneuvers for a war of aggression on it codenamed Hoguk, escalating the tension on the Korean Peninsula.
  The above-said military provocation is part of its sinister attempt to defend the brigandish "northern limit line," while frequently infiltrating its naval warships into the territorial waters of the DPRK side under the pretext of "intercepting fishing boats."
  The revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK standing guard over the inviolable territorial waters of the country took such decisive military step as reacting to the military provocation of the puppet group with a prompt powerful physical strike.
  It is a traditional mode of counter-action of the army of the DPRK to counter the firing of the provocateurs with merciless strikes. 
  Should the south Korean puppet group dare intrude into the territorial waters of the DPRK even 0.001 mm, the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK will unhesitatingly continue taking merciless military counter-actions against it.
  It should bear in mind the solemn warning of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK that they do not make an empty talk.
  There is in the West Sea of Korea only the maritime military demarcation line set by the DPRK. 

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:26 | 751609 StychoKiller
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Whoop!  Has Baghdad Bob moved to NK?  Perhaps this is put out by Pyongyang Phil! :>D

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:18 | 751151 keating
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South Korea has some impresssive submarines.

If a North Korean ship leaves port, in a conflict, it will be sunk in a heartbeat. Remember the Belgrano off the Falklands...yeah, like that.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 00:35 | 751502 High Plains Drifter
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They were foolish to send the Belgrano out, to some action, totally blind and undefended per se. It was a sitting duck. Those islands belong to the Argentines but British Petroleum wants the oil under them so they refuse to discuss letting go of them. Before the war, the Brits didn't even have a aircraft carrier for their jump jets so they made the some cruise ship into a aircraft carrier for this conflict.  The Argentines would have been wise to send the Belgrano to a Brazilian port or whatever to protect it until the war was over. They overloaded their humming bird asses with their big mouths and they got fed some lead for their trouble. If you start something, you had better be prepared to back up your mouth. This lesson they learned the hard way, since the society was always founded on some kinf of military dictatorship or whatever. It is one thing to parade around in nice pretty uniforms with lots of medals on your chest. It is another to fight a war with the Brits.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:35 | 751638 HungrySeagull
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And it was a good thing that the Argentine commander on the ground surrendered and stopped the fighting when he did on the last day of that little go around.

The only thing I wish to discover about that Falklands War is what happened to the Her Majesty's Frigate "The Arrow" I took a foot tour on that ship one day long ago and cannot discover the story afterwards. She was armed with a 5.4 inch (I think,) and a pair of seawolf short range mounts with 4 boxes on each along with a few 20/mm port and starboard.

What they had then was something, what the Brits have now is amazing. And yes they can fight. No question.... and probably are a touch crazy in the head when they do choose to fight.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 01:45 | 751651 High Plains Drifter
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One thing the Argentines did that was clever was to approach the British forces in the distance with cargo planes and then they would push French Exocet anti ship missles out the cargo bay doors. Then they would trigger them to start and they would of course find their targets. The Exocet was a bad boy in its day and probably still is. Most of the Argentine jets probably were destroyed by British defensive missle installations. At that time, I don't think they deployed shoulder fired stinger kinds of weapons. I have a complete US News magazine laying around here somewhere with the complete report in it on what happened in that war. In my opinion, I know this may rub some people the wrong way, but we should have helped the Argentines instead of helping the British. Of course that is just my silly opinion.  Over the years, we always heard how untrustworthy the French were etc. But the French, unlike us, more or less always looked out for themselves and when we said jump they would sit there and think about it for a whle before deciding what to do. This was in their best interest. Not ours. I can see their point now, as I look back. They were right. We were wrong. Just another in a long line of history revisions going on in my mind, that is for sure.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 08:49 | 751941 BigJim
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So... if the US had helped the Argies to take back 'their' islands (pretty debatable point, that one!), do you think the UK would have backed the US' wars in Iraq & Afghanistan?

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 03:16 | 751769 OutLookingIn
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 Before the Falklands conflict the Brits had the 'Ark Royal' jump jet aircraft carrier. There, fixed it for you!  

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:19 | 751153 RoRoTrader
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Key may be the artillery capability of the North to drop thousands of rounds onto Seoul in a matter of hours.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:25 | 751177 e_goldstein
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it would be suicide, but yeah.

as an aside,

rational unitary actor models (RUAM) tend to go out the window when the actor can't be considered rational.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:37 | 751205 Shameful
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Funny how all the bogeymen get labeled as irrational, giving us the excuse to also act irrational.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 23:27 | 751326 Trifecta Man
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Wed, 11/24/2010 - 08:49 | 751942 BigJim
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Well put, sir.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 08:50 | 751943 Tortfeasor
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If the shoe fits

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:34 | 751195 eatthebanksters
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the artillery won't last hours...maybe a few minutes...Kim Jong Dildo knows this.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 23:15 | 751301 Thanatos
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Uhh.. 1000's of rounds in MINUTES is more like it.

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:20 | 751157 New_Meat
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and Black--they have been counting for 60 years.  don't need no stinkin' GOOG.

- Ned

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:20 | 751158 onlooker
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Where is Harry Truman when he is truly needed.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 03:18 | 751773 jeff montanye
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dean acheson, head of truman's state dept, said we would not defend south korea in the event of an invasion but would leave it to the south koreans and the u.n. (which was the fig leaf but that only for the u.s.'s tardy, ill-prepared and executed, and, apparently, very inconclusive response).  neither mao nor stalin thought they would be looking at what they were eventually seeing by way of major u.s. military opposition on the peninsula.  p.s. he more than any other person, imo, gave birth to israel as we know it.

Wed, 11/24/2010 - 04:29 | 751822 Dan_Sylveste
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Possibly that was a good idea when Korea was basically a farming nation. Now that it's the number 1/2/3 (I forget) manufacturer of LCD displays and DRAM... not so much, right?

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:21 | 751159 ghostmissile
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"we z gotz a type 2 Dong" i so horny my weapons are named after sexs toys"

Tue, 11/23/2010 - 22:22 | 751163 kaiserhoff
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North Korea's Air Force is a sick joke; fifties ventage subsonic antiques.  Enough said.

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