Congress Proposes Bill to Allow Worldwide War ... Including INSIDE the U.S.

George Washington's picture

Americans who have been paying attention are outraged that Bush lied us into Iraq by making up false claims about weapons of mass destruction and pretending that Saddam Hussein had a hand in 9/11.

Many are disgusted that Obama got us into a war in Libya without Congressional authorization.

But as the ACLU noted
yesterday, Congress is going even further ... proposing handing
permanent, world-wide war-making powers to the president - including the
ability to make war within the United States:


A hugely important provision for Congress to authorize a new worldwide war has been tucked away inside the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). The bill was marked up by members of the House Armed Services Committee (HASC) last Wednesday that poured into Thursday morning (2:45 a.m. to be exact).


A couple of minutes past midnight, Rep. John Garamendi
(D-Calif.) offered an amendment to strike Sec. 1034 — the new
authorization for worldwide war provision — from the NDAA. Visibly
angry that such a large sweeping provision had not yet had any public
hearing whatsoever, he vigorously characterized it as a very broad
declaration of war.


Rep. Garamendi was very concerned by the
limitless geographic boundaries of the provision. Essentially, it
would enable the U.S. to use military force anywhere in the world (including within the U.S.) in search of terrorists.




a new authorization for worldwide war has had its first public
debate, it unfortunately only lasted a hair over 10 minutes and
occurred after midnight.


Though it is a very troubling expansion
of war authority, it has been lingering for more than three years as a
“sleeper provision,” and it is finally getting the attention of some
members of Congress. We hope that further debate in Congress in the
weeks ahead will allow for a more in-depth examination of unchecked
authority to wage worldwide war, and what the outcomes of such a
provision will yield.

As I noted in 2008:

An article in the Army Times reveals that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team will be redeployed from Iraq to domestic operations within the United States.


unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the
Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports
this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a
dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit
may be called upon to help with "civil unrest" and "crowd control".


The soldiers are learning to use so-called "nonlethal weapons" designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.


This violates posse comitatus and the Constitution. But, hey, we're in a "national emergency", so who cares, right?

(We're still in a declared state of national emergency).

I noted a couple of months later:

Everyone knows that deploying 20,000 troops on U.S. soil violates Posse Comitatus and the Constitution.


And everyone understands that staging troops within the U.S. to "help out with civil unrest and crowd control" increases the danger of overt martial law.


But no one is asking an obvious question: Does the government's own excuse for deploying the troops make any sense?

Other Encroachments On Civil Rights Under Obama

As bad as Bush was, the truth is that, in many ways, freedom and constitutional rights are under attack even more than during the Bush years.

For example:

Obama has presided over the most draconian crackdown on leaks in our history -- even more so than Nixon.

As Marjorie Cohen - professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and past president of the National Lawyers Guild - writes at the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy:

Pfc. Bradley Manning, who is facing court-martial for leaking
military reports and diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, is being held in
solitary confinement in Quantico brig in Virginia. Each night, he is
forced to strip naked and sleep in a gown made of coarse material. He
has been made to stand naked in the morning as other inmates walked by
and looked. As journalist Lance Tapley documents in his chapter on
torture in the supermax prisons in The United States and Torture,
solitary confinement can lead to hallucinations and suicide; it is
considered to be torture. Manning's forced nudity amounts to
humiliating and degrading treatment, in violation of U.S. and
international law.


Nevertheless, President Barack Obama
defended Manning's treatment, saying, "I've actually asked the
Pentagon whether or not the procedures . . . are appropriate. They
assured me they are." Obama's deference is reminiscent of President
George W. Bush, who asked "the most senior legal officers in the U.S.
government" to review the interrogation techniques. "They assured me
they did not constitute torture," Bush said.




After State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley criticized Manning's
conditions of confinement, the White House forced him to resign.
Crowley had said the restrictions were "ridiculous, counterproductive
and stupid." It appears that Washington is more intent on sending a
message to would-be whistleblowers than on upholding the laws that
prohibit torture and abuse.




Torture is
commonplace in countries strongly allied with the United States. Vice
President Omar Suleiman, Egypt's intelligence chief, was the
lynchpin for Egyptian torture when the CIA sent prisoners to Egypt in
its extraordinary rendition program. A former CIA agent observed, "If
you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If
you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want
someone to disappear - never to see them again - you send them to
Egypt." In her chapter in The United States and Torture, New Yorker journalist Jane Mayer cites Egypt as the most common destination for suspects rendered by the United States.

As I pointed out in March:

constitutional law teacher Glenn Greenwald says that - in his defense
of state secrecy, illegal spying, preventative detention, harassment
of whistleblowers and other issues of civil liberties - Obama is even
worse than Bush.


Indeed, Obama has authorized "targeted assassinations" against U.S. citizens. Even Bush didn't openly do something so abhorrent to the rule of law.


Obama is trying to expand spying well beyond the Bush administration's programs. Indeed, the Obama administration is arguing that citizens should never be able to sue the government for illegal spying.


Obama's indefinite detention policy is an Orwellian nightmare, which will create more terrorists.

- as hard as it is for Democrats to believe - the disinformation and
propaganda campaigns launched by Bush have only increased under Obama. See this and this.

And as I pointed out last year:

According to Department of Defense training manuals, protest is considered "low-level terrorism". And see this, this and this.

An FBI memo also labels peace protesters as "terrorists".





A 2003 FBI memo describes protesters' use of videotaping as an "intimidation" technique, even though - as the ACLU
points out - "Most mainstream demonstrators often use videotape
during protests to document law enforcement activity and, more
importantly, deter police from acting outside the law." The FBI
appears to be objecting to the use of cameras to document unlawful
behavior by law enforcement itself.


The Internet has been labeled
as a breeding ground for terrorists, with anyone who questions the
government's versions of history being especially equated with


Government agencies such as FEMA are allegedly teaching that the Founding Fathers should be considered terrorists.


The government is also using anti-terrorism laws to keep people from learning what pollutants are in their own community. See this, this, this and this.


Claims of "national security"
are also used to keep basic financial information - such as who got
bailout money - secret. That might not bode for particularly warm and
friendly treatment for someone persistently demanding the release of
such information.


The state of Missouri tried to label
as terrorists current Congressman Ron Paul and his supporters, former
Congressman Bob Barr, libertarians in general, anyone who holds gold,
and a host of other people.


And according to a law school professor and former president of the National Lawyers Guild, pursuant to the Military Commissions Act:

Anyone who ... speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

Obama has refused to reverse these practices.

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djsmps's picture

Section 1034 is not in the draft of the bill presented here.

WhOracle's picture

House Armed Services Committee Approves FY12 National Defense
Authorization Act

tony bonn's picture

thank you george and god bless you!!!!

the plutocrats are doing all in their power to conquor the world and to enslave america.....for those who have read john loftus' discussion of this matter, it is imperative that you study his writings....he paints a picture even more dire than i could have imagined.....loftus is impeccable and speaks of horrible machinations by the wall street / blue blood / plutocrats....

JW n FL's picture

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 governing the treatment of detainees is the culmination of relentless fear-mongering by the Bush administration since the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Because the bill was adopted with lightning speed, barely anyone noticed that it empowers Bush to declare not just aliens, but also U.S. citizens, "unlawful enemy combatants."

Bush & Co. has portrayed the bill as a tough way to deal with aliens to protect us against terrorism. Frightened they might lose their majority in Congress in the November elections, the Republicans rammed the bill through Congress with little substantive debate.

Anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on Bush's list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

The bill also strips habeas corpus rights from detained aliens who have been declared enemy combatants. Congress has the constitutional power to suspend habeas corpus only in times of rebellion or invasion. The habeas-stripping provision in the new bill is unconstitutional and the Supreme Court will likely say so when the issue comes before it.

Although more insidious, this law follows in the footsteps of other unnecessarily repressive legislation. In times of war and national crisis, the government has targeted immigrants and dissidents...


George God Bless You and Yours for all the time and energy you put into educating the ignorant! it is really to bad that most people just dont care...


I spread the word as much as possible.. but people are busy with jobs and kids and danzig wiff da starz!


I will add this link.. as recent language by the Home Land Security Fruit Loops! Use Twitter? Do you Blog? Do you Chat? YOU! are a Home Grown Terrorist(s) Per Home Land Security! See Link(s) and Official Report(s).


and.. this.. although it goes better with the other post..


Miami to be the 1st City in the Country to use a Predator Drone against American Civilians! Miami Metro Dade Police Predator Drone on Patrol & coming to a City near YOU! NEXT!

agrotera's picture

Thank you GW!!!

thedrickster's picture

Touche, now all conspiracy theorist/terrorist/enemy combatant types must return to newsweek for re-education.

Kali's picture

This is right out of the movie "Brazil".  I am having a very sick feeling in my stomach just about constantly now.  Yikes!

Zero Govt's picture

the enemy within and has always been the Government (and its sponsors)

Lady Heather...UNCLE's picture

I do not think Barry S is very trustworthy ...hopefully he will change next term into a good, honest POTUS

Lady Heather...UNCLE's picture

...I mean: "you read it and heard it here first"

Lady Heather...UNCLE's picture

I do not think Barry S has the best interests of USA at read it hear first!

topcallingtroll's picture

The war on terror has been so useful to the collectivists and those who wish to increase government control, that even if it ended two years ago the government would never tell us.

Vague war without end. Shades of Orwell.

dark pools of soros's picture

why didn't they just make Manning be DSK's travel companion and be done with it

Rynak's picture

I honestly don't know what will happen, when stuff goes to the material plane in the USA (and i don't mean PMs). On the one hand, no country has a better armed population. On the other hand..... look at the american masses, and ask yourself: "Will they save themselves before it is too late?"

And if the answer were "no", would you want to fight for them or deal with the consequences of their behavior?

Get out while you still can.

gasmiinder's picture

George - it would seem to me that since you stated:

This violates posse comitatus and the Constitution. But, hey, we're in a "national emergency", so who cares, right?

in 2008 as you say, that someone of your brilliant readers would have pointed out that it does NOT violate posse comitatus; if your description is correct it might REPEAL posse comitatus but since Posse Comitatus is an act of Congress then Congress can change it in any way it wishes at any time by legislative mechanism.  In my opinion it likely does violate the Constitution but since when is there any recourse to that?

UninterestedObserver's picture

LOL "how I vote" like it makes a difference

Dr. Porkchop's picture

America is officially Lindsay Lohan pathetic. Someone cut off her allowance, she's drunk.

Ag1761's picture

I'll put up as many ZH members as can get over to UK if the shit starts over the pond

and you need to get out. I am on an Island, 5500+ wild red deer, plenty of fish, no politics,

no bank, loads of whisky, entry fee 1 Troy Oz Fine Silver.

Moe Howard's picture

Is it the big island on the left or that little one over there on the right?

pazmaker's picture

So how do we get in touch with you?

dexter_morgan's picture

Makes one wonder what the outcome would have been had not Lincoln been intent on preventing the south from seceeding? Yeah, yeah, I hear you about the slavery, but if slavery was really his main purpose, why'd he wait till 1863 when the south was ascendant to invoke that? Just sayin......history is a bitch if you read more than the state approved sources about it........

thedrickster's picture

Would that be Abe Lincoln of Illinois Colonization Society fame?

Bartanist's picture

As I am sure we all know, the reason that governments create unreasonable and unjust laws is for the sole purpose of getting people to violate the laws. Once people violate the laws the government has given itself rights to do ANYTHING it wants with its citizens, including imprison and murder them.

Any government that does this is an enemy combatant goverment determined to destroy its own people and country.

GFORCE's picture

Americans who have been paying attention are outraged that Bush lied us into Iraq.

Where is this outrage you speak of?


gasmiinder's picture

It's hidden in the legal documents filed by the Clinton administration making all the same claims before Bush ever even began running for Prez.  He was so brilliant he made it happen years in advance.................but too stupid to point it out.......


Of course that claim goes right along with the idea that saying "9/11 changed how you evaluate threats" is the equivalent of "Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11".


GW is always a great opportunity to remind yourself what the level of reasoning is among the loony left though.........

Moe Howard's picture

Boosh did it again.

I am pro-liberty but this nonsense he spouts all the time cancels out the real message.


Too bad.

dexter_morgan's picture

prolly not the democrats on the committees that saw the same intelligence and came to the same conclusions I suppose.

dogbreath's picture

man are you guys in trouble.  advertise in the help wanted's for cunts and crematorium oven stuffers and there will be no shortage of applicants because the jobs come with medical and dental. 

apberusdisvet's picture

I have always said that the ultimate sign of desperation and a clue as to when the elites have reached the end game will be the deployment of US troops in the US (other than regular military training bases).  Something is definitely in the wind; perhaps it is the Fukushima radiation that somehow is considered non-threatening even when it has, probably, already caused many 1000s of furure cancers here in the US.

theprofromdover's picture

Well, start a Constitution Party.

Jim in MN's picture

New National Party.  Working on it.

Also planning cover story: Tee Hee Party so no one will notice real party at first.

MacGruber's picture

The government knows you have to space things out to lower the profile. Knowing that this money printing experiment is sure to fail they have to lay the groundwork now so if/when insurrection occurs on a large scale they can steamroll the protests with all legal right. If they passed the law proximal to the demonstrations then the media would notice, but this way they will nonchalantly report "oh yeah, that Posse Comitatus thing was killed years ago. That’s not related to the current situation." Perception lends legitimacy.

honestann's picture

They rely on people like you to spread the blatant absurdity that passing a blatantly unconstitutional provision in a bill makes blatantly criminal actions somehow "legal".  They cannot have "legal right" to do things like this provision pretends to authorize, and nothing they can do can give them a "legal right" to take actions like these.

In the end, people need to cut through ALL the crap, understand that they did not sign the declaration of independence or the constitutions of the USSA or their state or county or city, and recognize reality, which is exactly this:

#1: predators DBA government
#2: predators DBA corporations
#3: predators DBA organizations
#4: parasites DBA voters seeking freebees
#5: producers - who create goods humans need

The organizations are fictions... they do not exist.  The predators, parasites and producers are real, physical, living, breathing human beings.  And that is all that exists.  All those organizations and the endless soundbites is only fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy and camoflauge.

It is us against them.  Period.  Prepare to defend yourself, or you will be consumed.

NotApplicable's picture

I guess I really need to stay out of these politcal threads.

There's nothing quite as bizarre as watching the most concerned, yet most apathetic people on the planet (read: voters) fight over an engineered fiction.

Every last one of you is no different from Hitler, desiring nothing but to remake the world via violence in an effort to make it to your liking.

Meanwhile the truly peaceful among us, will go on about our own business in spite of your efforts to kill or otherwise control us.

CH1's picture

Don't disgrace yourself by calling people Hitler. Really.

dexter_morgan's picture

How 'bout it. Godwin's law..........

honestann's picture

I mean, really!  Sure, anyone in the house or senate who votes for this is instantly guilty of treason and is also clearly a terrorist (if that term has any meaning at all).

However, when you think about it, what's the difference if they pass this or not?  They have been invading, fighting and overthrowing governments for decades in direct contradiction to the constitution, and they've been killing and enslaving americans without trial for decades too.  Almost the entire federal government are guilty of treason directly, or aiding and abetting treason.

The kinds of actions this bill supposedly authorizes have been unconstitutional, and will remain unconstitutional after if an when they pass this bill.  Since no bill or law can take priority over the constitution (only a constitutional amendment can do that), this whole scam is nothing more than a fig leaf to create confusion as they do what they've been doing for decades... operated under the color of law, not law.  And color of law simply means pretend, and nothing more.  At this point, almost the entire federal government needs to be tried and executed for treason and crimes against humanity.  That this provision is even allowed to be attached proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.  And anyone who votes for a bill with this provision attached personally attaches a bullseye to their own forehead.

Make no mistake.  This provision is an explicit declaration of war upon every human being on planet earth.  Anyone promoting or supporting this is guilty of far worse than treason.

SilverBaron's picture

I was thinking along the same lines.  Why do they even bother with this shit when they already do whatever the fuck they want anyways?  Anything is legal under the guise of national security.

Franken_Stein's picture


Be warned: They will probably use the Active Denial System against you !

It's called "Sheriff", mounted onto a Humvee.


It's a microwave energy antenna to burn your skin.

It can cordon off whole areas and deny entry.

Plus it can disperse large crowds of "enemy combattants", which is you.

It's Iraq war tested.


TSA gropee's picture

There is an alternate version that uses arrays of transducers to produce high pressure (db) sound (>20kHz) to induce instant migraines. I use a home built version based on internet plans to drive away rodents and has 3 settings, one for humans as well. Quite effective on the furry basterds I might add.

Kali's picture

Deflectors.  Look them up.

mediahuset's picture

electric cigarette

Bookmarked this site and emailed it to a few friends, your post was that great, keep it up

digalert's picture

Oh well, I've been declared a terrorist in my own country.

CONgress had better find their huevos, they been abrogating their powers. Barama is well on his assassination mission. OBL, though already dead, double tap between the eyes, Obama killed Osama.

Barama blows past CONgress to his globalist NATO buddy's to assassinate Ghadafi. Well not really kill him, just his children, grandchildren, compound...bombs are flying.

Now that OBL is dead Barama wants to fuck the Afghani's and focus a new assault on Pakistan, then on to Syria. Yea you progressive liberals, I've got to admit, that Barama is a killing machine. Meanwhile CONgress piddles here in the homeland teaching the people to be the serfs they're supposed to be.

Franken_Stein's picture


I feel like you Americans are in DEEP, DEEP trouble.


Man, your country is preparing for civil war here.

This is so obvious !

All legislation is streamlined in that direction, is it not ?


Your politicians are turning the USA into a 3rd Reich !


What the hell is going on over there ?


Pack your things and



TSA gropee's picture

Easier said than done, but with our king having effectively polarized the country on a number of different levels, I suspect we may first have to defend our own against our own if that makes sense. I watch, wait and prepare.

Smiley's picture

You aint seen nuthin till you seen a 300,000,000 person shootout.

LFMayor's picture

I'm not going anywhere.  I was born here, paid my taxes, served 6 long ass years in my prime and have just as much right to stay (and say).  

Let it crumble down, and we'll sort it all out in the rubble.  Those fat ass chair polishers who have never done anything more arduous than 18 holes are in for a big fucking surprise when I (and the millions of rednecks like me) decide to act out.  Decide to target power tranformer stations.  Decide to close bridges across major waterways.  All 31 flavors of ill shit.

How many times have those that would be kings decided that Americans were weak, or lazy, or slothful?  How'd that shit go for them.   Truth of it is, until we're pissed we just don't care enough to be bothered. 

So, PTB, play your cards very, very carefully.  One wrong step, one calculated move that's under or over-calculated and your sack is gonna get twisted.

And don't worry hotshots and naysayers.  You'll know when it's time.