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Congresswoman Gabby Giffords Shot "Point Blank In The Head" At Town Hall Event In Tucson
From Breaking News: Local media is reporting Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, a Democrat, was shot ‘point blank in the head at a town-hall like event in northern Tucson. Is this the beginning?
Update from NBC News: Dem Party in Tucson saying Giffords taken to hospital, 5 others also shot. Shooter apparently in custody.
Update 2: from Fox Phoenix: 12 people shot at Gabby Giffords community meeting. Congresswoman among the injured, while CNN reports 6 dead and 15 wounded.
Update 3: NPR confirms Gifford has died.
Update 4: Reuters refuting the previous NPR news, and states that Giffords is still alive, in surgery, nine other patients brought in from shooting, per a hospital spokeswoman
The best coverage of this event we have found so far is, ironically, on Sky News:
And now it gets pathetically political: Breaking news reports that a liberal blogger blames Sarah Palin for Gabrielle Giffords assasination attempt.
“F*** it. I’m going there” One liberal blogger wrote on Saturday
after news of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot dead in point
blank range at a Tuscon rally. The blogger TBogg
blamed former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin for the congresswoman’s
death after Palin named Giffords as one of her ‘targets’ during the 2010
mid-term elections. Palin was caught in controversy when she published on her Facebook
page a graphic that showed several ‘target’ districts, including
Giffords 8th district in Arizona.
Gawker has provided a description of the shooter:
A gunman indiscriminately fired into a crowd at a gathering for Democratic representative Gabrielle Giffords outside a Safeway in Tucson, Arizona this morning. Giffords and at least five others were shot, according to NPR. The gunman was tackled and arrested.
Update: We spoke to an eyewitness, Steven Rayle who
was on the scene at the time of the shooting and helped to hold the
suspect down while waiting for police. Here's what he said:
The event was very informal: Gifford had set up a table outside the
Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman,
who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford
in the head first. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor,
Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.
After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a
few seconds, hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than
10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead.
When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee,
but a member of Gifford's staff tackled him. The Rayle helped hold him
down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-or 20 minutes
later. 30 minutes later the EMS came. Rayle said he was "stunned" by how
long it took medical help to arrive.
The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short
hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or
while being held down. He didn't look like a businessman, but more of a
"fringe character," our source said.
From Giffrods Wikipedia page:
Gabrielle Giffords (born June 8, 1970) is the U.S. Representative for Arizona's 8th congressional district. She is a member of the Democratic Party.
She is the only member of the U.S. Congress whose spouse, astronaut Mark E. Kelly, is an active duty member of the U.S. military.[1]
Giffords is known as a strong proponent of solar energy as well as for her work to secure the border with Mexico.[2] [3]
Giffords was first sworn in as a congresswoman on January 3, 2007.
She is the third woman in Arizona's history to be elected to serve in
the U.S. Congress. In her inaugural speech on the floor of the House of
Representatives, Giffords said a comprehensive immigration reform
package needs to include modern technology to secure the border, more
border patrol agents, tough employer sanctions for businesses that
knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and a guest-worker program. In her
first month in office, Congresswoman Giffords voted to support increased
federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, raising the minimum wage, endorsing the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission,
and supporting new rules for the House of Representatives targeting
ethical issues. Giffords also voted to repeal subsidies to big oil
companies and invest the savings in renewable energy. "We put our national security at risk by relying on oil from unstable regimes in the Middle East and Latin America," Giffords told her colleagues in a speech on the House floor during debate on the Clean Energy Act. The act repeals $14 billion in subsidies given to oil companies and establishes a Strategic Renewable Energy Reserve to increase research in clean renewable energy, to develop greater energy efficiency, and to improve energy conservation.
During the 2007 session of Congress, Giffords introduced a bill (H.R. 1441)[4] that forbids the sale of F-14 aircraft parts on the open market.[5] She also voted for the contentious May 2007 Iraq Emergency Supplemental Spending bill,
saying, "I cannot, in good conscience, allow the military to run out of
money while American servicemen and women are being attacked every
day".[6]
Giffords is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the New Democrat Coalition.
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If you feel so strongly about the population problem, please do us all a favor and set an example by jumping off a cliff.
Holy shit, MORE stupidity.
Use logic, moron. If I kill myself, that's ONE less person on this earth. Is ONE death going to change anything? NOPE.
However, if I do not kill myself, I will become extremely rich, powerful, and capable of mass slaughter in the near future.
Sure... my money's on you being a disgruntled hipster 19 yr old closet fag who's unhappy at how he keeps losing at his online video game and attempts to participate in some logical discussion yet fails at that about as hard as he does with impressing females.
You have no idea how my generation thinks (I'm not 19, but I do belong to that generation, yes), yet you try and categorize me. Don't make assumptions, you're not intelligent enough for them, obviously =\
Zeropower : you nailed it.
LOL,
I can just see fat ass playing online while wearing a pseudo intellectual Nietszche T-shirt and cursing his PS3 controller.
You think I'm fat. LOL.
Use LOGIC, you fucking dimwit. Would a fat fuck American really create a name with the word "fat" in it?
LOL. You believe that fat people possess that sort of self confidence; what an imbecile.
If you're so concerned about overpopulation, why not remove yourself from the equation? You know, "be the change you wish to see in the world" and all that?
Tyler, consider increasing the wait time on the porch; it might help cut down on the wingnuts that are beginning to overrun the place.
blatant copy and paste:
Holy shit, MORE stupidity.
Use logic, moron. If I kill myself, that's ONE less person on this earth. Is ONE death going to change anything? NOPE.
However, if I do not kill myself, I will become extremely rich, powerful, and capable of mass slaughter in the near future.
But your death could change things on Zerohedge, so please consider it.
Yeah, it would lower the average IQ of posters on ZH drastically.
I have considered it, many times. Instead, I'd rather kill others, thanks.
the details of which you have trolled here before.
maybe take in the truth that not every post here is addressing you, and there is no need to reply to each one.
replying out of principle
mmm, yes, that would explain your murder & rape fantasy stories.
You haven't heard my principles behind the concept of rape, yet you pretend to understand.
If you understood women the way I do, including the way the entire fucking world, besides western Christian culture, treats women, you would agree.
Think outside of your Christ box, Jesus fuck.
+1
Except in the Christian world, women have always been treated like they are: clueless, irrational, emotional bitches.
Okay fatasswilly,
I've had it with you. You think there's an over population problem? You think more people need to die? Why don't LEAD BY EXAMPLE? KILL YOURSELF TODAY. RIGHT NOW. Show us how much better than us useless eaters you are. If you respond to this post than that demonstrates that you are too chickenshit to put your ass where your mouth is. Of course, I expect you to trash me rather than off yourself, because I know your type....
blatant copy and paste:
Holy shit, MORE stupidity.
Use logic, moron. If I kill myself, that's ONE less person on this earth. Is ONE death going to change anything? NOPE.
However, if I do not kill myself, I will become extremely rich, powerful, and capable of mass slaughter in the near future.
Just as I expected. I see you're still here with us Chickenshit. Next time come up with a better excuse.
LMAO
uhh . . . you really think that my desire to continue living so that I can kill as many people as possible is just an "excuse?"
LOL. Imbecile. You believe that my death would help the overpopulation problem. Seriously, how stupid can humanity become?
Judging by your posts, yes, I DO believe the world would be a better place without you.
That wasn't the point, dumbass. We're talking about overpopulation, a mainly quantitative problem. Stay on topic.
"We need MORE murder.We need a dramatic downsizing of the population"
Hey, hypocrite,
Why don't you volunteer your own death.
- - - - thought so!
Humanity's idiocy never ceases to amaze me.
"Money is just a paper/electronic game, ffs."
Not when you can fuck with people's lives, it isn't....
She was working on reducing the salaries in congress... hardly a flag carrier. I guess he couldn't be bothered getting all the way to another state.
The enemy of liberty was the gunman you fascist apologist.
I didn't comment on the gunman, nor did I attempt to justify or apologise for anyone's actions.
It is regrettable that your statement is not correct. In the America of 30 years ago, I would have answered my post exactly as you did.
It really sucks that I cannot honesty do that today.
That is why this event could be the beginning of the end for this site. Quite a lot of people have talked. What is exactly beyond the surface?
My stance has always been that US citizens are not against tyranny, they are against being tyrannized. That most posters on here lament the loss of entitlements, and do not despair of the entitlement philosophy etc
"That most posters on here lament the loss of entitlements, and do not despair of the entitlement philosophy etc"
You must have missed a turn somewhere. You don't know where you are.
Enemy of freedom? Like Ron and Rand fascist Paul?
Can't change facts.
The Pauls promote smaller government and decentralization. That is the opposite of fascism. But facts can't change the opinions of the truly stupid so carry on.
Oh really?
So the fact that Ron Paul is an Austrian Monetarist, which is highly fascist, doesn't ring a bell with you?
Cuts to the state budget to pay off the bankers illegitamate debts are not fascist?
Sorry, only idiots don't see Ron Paul as having at the very least, fascist trends.
Ron Paul is a fascist. The facts back ME up. Not YOU. So carry on yourself, I presented the facts, you didn't.
But the truly stupid, only think others are...now don't they.
I know I can be stupid, I'm human. But I'm not being stupid here. Just factual.
Almost everything Ron Paul advocates, is fascist. Sorry you haven't realized it yet. But as an American who wants things to change away from British Monetarism, when you finally wake up, the sane people will be there with open arms.
Now if my position is truly stupid? How stupid is yours?
You obviously have confused Ron Paul with someone else entirely.
do you even know what fascist means?
It means "A political regime, having totalitarian aspirations, ideologically based on centralized government, government control of business, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights. ...
Ron Paul is one of the most outspoken Congressmen to DEFEND the rights of the individual.
So you think. The sad thing about realization is that it generally changes your mind about things you'd rather not. So is the fallacy of Ron/Rand Paul, their right wing fascist Austrian MONETARIST school of thought. Who told you he was so great? Idiots? Who always believed the monetarists when they spouts their lunacy? Of course.
Look I wish our country wasn't filled with charlatans too. But they are.
Here's enlightenment. Soak it in. But make sure you UNDERSTAND IT. Let it CHURN within you. Then you make up your own mind. Watch how things play out. Get the approrprate knowledge NOW, so you can correctly JUDGE how the Paul's do. The following are the titles and links to, pertinent info about the Paul's and what they really stand for. Here's a clue, I bet they DON'T EVEN KNOW, they are fascist. But, they are.
Rand Paul's Austrian School: The Hapsburg War Against America
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16441
Some Traitors in the Senate, as Obama Tries To Kill Glass-Steagall
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/14456
Make the "Lame Duck: Session a "Sane Duck" Session, and Tear Rand Paul Apart
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16337
Rand Paul Calls for Hitler-Like Cuts
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16372
LaRouche: No Compromises With Rand Paul! Get Obama Out Now!
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16378
Rand Paul's Feudal Agenda
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16388
Racist Rand Paul Adopts Obama's Moustache
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16387
Cat Food Commission Meeting Secretly to Implement Obama-Rand Paul Fascism
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16397
LaRouche: We Are on the Attack; Rand Paul Is the Target
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16400
Obamacare: Where Does Rand Paul Really
Stand?
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16417
Rand Paul Complains: Simpson-Bowles Proposal Doesn't Kill Fast Enough
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16454
Fascist Rand Paul Happy with Obama's Catfood Commission
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16461
Here's some commentary videos
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16488
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16412
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/16444?page=4
So are you a fascist? Ron/Ran Paul are. So is Obama and his whole crew.
Again right now, we have a bunch of people, BELIEVING THEY ARE PATRIOTS, when really they are fascist monetarist traitors.
Starting to get a grip on how far down the rabbit hole we are?
Mothers do their babies no favors by naming them "Lyndon." It just never seems to work out well.
You are still not using the word fascist correctly. Use your Orwellian doublespeak elsewhere. Obviously, you have been larouchED.
okay, jmc8888, now i see why you are so confused. here is a hint: when you apply reason and logic and actually study your subjects, in this case the subjects being Ron Paul and fascism, you find that Ron Paul is the ideological opposite of fascism.
Moron
Arizona's first jewish congressperson
See this movie
http://www.netflix.com/Search?v1=The Parallax View&oq=para&ac_posn=10
Rip.
This story is not even on the wires yet - Yahoo has headline stories about "Man finds and returns lost ring" and "Viewers Disqualify Golfer". DUH
Anyone notice that the really important news is barely listed anymore and what always leads are social puff pieces; a buffet of bread and circuses?
good good ...
I guess now someone in CONgress will start hear people...
alx
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NPR reports Congresswoman is dead.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870403070457607001069465021...
I know that I have dragged down the blogging standard of zero hedge since I joined but I have to say some of the comments here are appalling.
I agree - on all sides. The rush to judgment and conclusion is far too swift. The speculation is salacious.
This has probably been one of my least favorite posts and comment sections since I've been here.
Speculation is good. It can drive up price of gold, silver, food...
One thing you won't find much of on ZH is a spirit of generosity.
Well,
I guess it gives you a kind of an insight as to how "well" the American society is functioning.
There's a certain coherence to their apparent lack of coherence - I fear the Great Lidless Eye has begun to Gaze on this strange land and sent out his orcs to scour the Shire.
But there is another way to defeat Sauron
www.youtube.com/watch?v=puH8c_I0baY
Alas my friend, the dark Lord of the Evil Empire does not allow Wal-Mart to carry that brand.
LMAO
Agreed Dork. The retard crowd decided to fly their freak flags high today.
GD bunch of hysterical bitchez
My sediments exactly! You have know idea until the details come out just sensationalized headlines and those of lessor intellegence with their own opinions.
Reports coming in now that she is dead. When someone is shot pointblank in the head, there is little wiggle room for anything but a bad outcome.
I seriously doubt that is sensationalism.
We can only guess as to what the backlash will be on this. She also had problems in the past on her Health care vote. Her office was broken into and messed up and she had been the recipient of many death threats. There are threats and there are promises. The next piece of news is the profile of the asshole who did this.
Some of the comments here should be fucking deleted or junked to death. Whoever indicates they are in favor of this is an asshole of the highest order.
No, it's not surprising that there are comments in favor of assassination.
After all, congressmen, senators, and others have called for the assassination of Julian Assange and countless benighted Arabs. Many have already been assassinated.
Now that we see the outcome of this moral madness at home, the natural instinct is to recoil in horror. But it's inconsistent to cheer the assassinations of political rivals and then to recoil when the same beliefs are applied to your own faction.
The only moral position is to argue for objective and consistent morality. Murder is evil, no matter what costume you wear or who you're murdering. To argue otherwise is to invite the utter destruction of society.
Ideas matter.
I hope this makes sense. It's an important concept to understand.
While I agree that uninhibited, wholesale slaughter is probably socially destructive, how else can we reduce the world's population to natural, sustainable levels?
People won't stop fucking, I guarantee you.
Easy. Offer people a few grand for getting fixed in a reversible way. Or make it a condition for getting more than a certain amount of dole payments. No killing, starvation or forced sterilization required. Of course, the left will scream racism and eugenics, but fuck 'em. If layabouts and meth addicts don't want the money, they don't have to take it.
Nicely put. +1. Normally you piss me off but this was poetic and couldn't be more true.
Nicely put. +1. Normally you piss me off but this was poetic and couldn't be more true.
Looks like a whole slew of early comments have been deleted. Didn't think ZH did this.
edit: looks like this was just a page-loading error. No comments deleted after all. Better to let the wingnuts out/hang themselves than not.
+1
"sediments" and "'lessor' intelligence" in the same paragraph. Oh jeez....
I forget, is the Lessor the party of the first part, or the party of the second part?
Another day in the lives of Libs Gone Wild. Shows you how dangerous the wacko Left truly is. Yes, I'm saying a Lib did it; they are all mentally unstable.
I've never seen one in my life that was. Ever.
Now I"ve heard of 'green libs' doing stuff (because they're idiots), but usually that's barricading things, not shooting.
As for the right....
Mailbox incendiaries?
Shot congressmen/women?
Maybe joe sixpack is finally snapping out of his NFL/Jersey shore induced coma and not liking what he's finding?
If reports are true of a young white male, Hinckley all over again...mental health.
That was an attempted political assassination from on high.
Of course, they are going to blame it on gun owners, patriot types, and militia types and then they will use this as another excuse to clamp down etc. Sounds all contrived to me. This woman was not any lightning rod to attract this purported type of hatred for what she was doing. She was a mixed bag on the political front. The stupid security guard probably shot some of those people.
Markets will rally Monday right?
...Why wouldn't they?
To some of the users on this board:
Please, do not threaten to do harm to government officials in any way.
I occasionally find some of these here at ZH.
This is a tragedy in a time in history when the government is looking for any excuse to reduce personal liberty.
Don't let a moronic, threatening post lead to the end of ZH.
CJ
Nobody here is threatening anybody.
But sometimes some see violence as, unfortunately, the only remaining option.
We obviously saw that today.
What - this is the first time that violence has been used? Do you know about Governor George Wallace. Or the poor kid who was killed because he go caught in the gangbangers crossfire?
It's too late already. Nothing we write will change the actions of the govt.
Here comes more stazi like gun control from the assholes in Congress. This the beginning of the end of the second amendment. I for one do not like events like this,even if it was leftie,rightie,or mexican drug cartel the govt will use this to pass draconian gun laws. That is why we must educate folk that by enovking a mask militant mindset that it will kill the truth movement. Anyway here comes more gun control laws now.
Add freedom of speech as well.
Yeah freedom of speech,freedom of peaceful assembly. Man shit is getting real
Prayers to the families of all who were hurt or killed. I wouldn't jump to conclusions one way or the other regarding the shooter and their motivation. Could be just some guy who's been out work for a long time who just lost it. Sad too; reading the above bio she seems like somebody with some sensible positions.
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Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind. The sowing is completed; the reaping is beginning. This politician isn't the one I would have chosen to begin with, but I don't especially mourn her death either. Especially if somebody now goes gunning for her diametric opposite - like for example Michelle Bachman. Or ( please God) Ann Coulter.
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What a piece of shit.
Since you apparently are into sodomy why not try fucking yourself?
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I hope NO ONE is next. I have this hope that in the market place of ideas the truth really win out. That we'll get the banksters, and the oligarchs and get this county back on the right track.
Obama was full of hope. Perfect candidate for you.
Will "airport" scanners now be coming to grocery stores, etc. in the future because of this??
I actually wouldn't mind that. Some shady people hang out in those stores.
Imagine walmart having those?
You wouldn't mind a decrease in your liberty? You wouldn't mind adding more fascist tools to the state's already massive arsenal of liberty crushing devices?
wow...
How about, you don't go to the Wal-Mart at all, save the world one dollar spent locally at a time.
Not in the places that want MY money. Maybe Wal-Mart though.
Just flagged myself as junk to beat you all to it.
"She was intelligent, articulate, and informed. A future leader of Arizona." quote from an Arizona reporter.
just announced her death
interesting the gunman did not kill himself, which does not fit the pattern in these things
one reporter said there was a lot of gunfire and very loud, which led him to believe the man was well armed and focused, which does bring up the question was the gunman acting alone.
some bodies still in the parking lot, so evidently these victims never had a chance
the hot political issue in AZ is immigration, and the congresswomen was on both sides of the issue amnesty, AND more border security. Mexico has no constitutional right to bear arms, interestingly.
"interesting the gunman did not kill himself, which does not fit the pattern in these things"
He may not have had the opportunity. Reports say he was tackled before he had a chance to reload.
The victims had a chance this morning when they decided to leave their house unarmed. It's never a good idea to show up to a gun fight without a gun.
I have been living in AZ three years now and shit like this happens all the time although obviously not to high profile people like this incident. It didn't take me that long to figure out that lugging around a pistol strapped to my hip is a lot less of an inconvenience to the alternative. Just last Wednesady some nut had a shootout and took hostages in a fashion mall down the street from my residence.
With respect...It should have been me instead.
Look for expanding "Big Brother control" over its US citizens.
hrh A D F
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Your Highness, you performed that duty already once. And please remember, death is terminal.
Cnn says she's alive again
Whoops, she just died again....
I think it's interesting that she is the only member of congress with a spouse who is active duty. Ever think maybe this is al-qaeda killing the families now of servicemen? Just a random thought though if i had to bet id pick random nutjob. The person killed other people, did on video, so it goes with what they [al-qaeda] said they would do. But i was traumatized by 9/11 so when i get a parking ticket and pretty sure that it's a member of al-qaeda. I'm just sayin cause no one seems to be thinking they are possibly repsonsible. But, let's wait and see along lines of what Trav777 said.
The rumour is the shooter is a 21 year old white male.
So? There arent' white Muslims? Cause I could name a few. In fact, they said this is what they would do. But I'm just shooting in the dark here (bad pun?) and I doubt that it was Islamic terror but never rule it out. Guess who else is from the SW? Anwar Al-Alawki. But again most likelty suspect is the random nutter who was pissed about something.
You're right, I forgot there are some white Muslims. It's fun to speculate but Trav7777? has the right idea which is to wait for the facts.
Now they're saying it was an elderly black man with gray hair....
Go figure.
it does the same feel the Ft Hood shooting had. Maybe someone of Islamic background. The Democratic party hasn't exactly distanced itself from the war on terror, and they never shoot Republicans do they (except Reagan, and that guy was playing a part in a movie Taxi Driver).
Lincoln shot by JW Booth (19th century Sean Penn), McKinley was shot by a pre-marxist anarchist, Kennedy was shot by marxist, RFK was shot by Palestinian, MLK was a Republican shot by a segregationist like Dems Al Gore, Sr. and George Wallace, George Wallace was shot by a crazy guy, and Gerald Ford was shot at by Squeaky Fromme of the Manson family.
1450 white republicans were lynched alongside 3350 black republicans by democrats during Jim Crow btwn 1885-1935 (Tuskegee institute). All blacks were Republicans, the anti-slavery party, until Johnson's "Great Bribery Society" in 1964.
Not a whole lot of love there from the party of social justice.
Murder is not going to solve anything unless you get to the head vampire. Who is the head vampire?
I shall examine my crystal ball on this one...
*closes eyes*
*chants mantra* "Who is the head vampire...?" "Who is the head vampire...?
Ah... a vision... it is getting clearer...
it is something red... Yes definitely red...
It looks to be some type of shield. Yes, a shield, a red shield.
The head vampire's mark is a red shield. I wonder what that might mean...
So says my crystal ball.
Latest news is that she is in critical condition in the hospital.
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Fox news reporting that she is still alive and in critical condition.
boy can you imagine the chaos if another one or two happens this wekend
Right at the start of the playoffs. Someone wants attention.
Why didn't he dress like a businessman to do the hit? This seems to be a key element to the story for some reason. If you aren't dressed like a businessman and you do hits, you are "fringe".
I know right? Was he supposed to put on his Sunday's best? This how reporters got bad names.
Rofl, that's a hilarious observation. If I ever go out in a blaze of gunfire I'll have to dress up like a character from The Matrix so I don't get classified as "fringe".
But seriously, I would bet he was in jeans and a T-shirt/sweatshirt.
How do you trade this?
Go long .45 Auto and .308 Win.
Short Safeway.
Ya think there might just be a few CONgressional folks looking over their shoulders right now?
I sure as hell hope so. If not, they're even dumber than they look.
The moment you condone extra-legal cold blooded murder is the day you have sunk as low as the people creating these problems in the first place.
Nothing is going to be solved by reckless bedlam in the streets, just the creation of more problems.
The right to bear arms is coupled with the responsibility to use them for only your own defense. Every time some lunatic, thug, or staged/set up patsy murders someone like this, it effects all of us and is leveraged against all of us that RESPONSIBLY own firearms.
And with this the collective sphincters of those politicians in the senate and congress who have actually commited near treasonous acts against the citizenry tighten. I do not know enough about her to
Comment but i I will say that throughout history people will only take so much tyranny before they act out against perceived oppressors.
Simply because we are the US the puppets thinknthry are immune. well American idols reruns only go so far. If you work against the interest of your populace like Dodd, Frank among others the Interent is assuring your allegiances are documented.
Violence for the civilized is not the way but throughout history it is the only thing that creates results when we are failing with a failed justice system. The financial
Criminals feel
Immune to our land of laws and are protected.
CHECK THIS!! Sarah Palin PAC uses gun sights to to note the democrats she's targeting
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/sarah-palins-pac-puts-gun_n_511...
That's it, she's behind this. Whack her!
Man! You solved it! Sarah Palin is behind this! How did you figure this out? Huffpo is brilliant!
Yes, HuffPo will certainly report that...
...But not Sarah Palin's church getting firebombed and burned down 5 weeks after the 2008 election. Just 2 weeks before Christmas, while people were inside doing crafts.
it is the start of the violence that FoxTV has spent years trying to gin up against the more "liberal" elements.
Tyler I think you went over the lien by this "Is this the beginning?". Its inappropriate. We all know as tax payers we are being defrauded and angry but I think that statement is insenitive.
I think not, it may be insensitive but, very appropriate.
your reply is inappropriate.
Perhaps you would be more confortable over at the huffington post.
Huff post reports her office was ransacked just before the health care vote. She was on Palin's list of "targets". Right wing violence is on the rise.
And she's one of the sell-out Democrats!
Yep! That proves it! Sarah Palin dressud up as a young white guy and shot the good Congresswoman just to piss off liberals! Brilliant!
Sarah Palin couldn't hit the broadside of a caribou with a hunting rifle. That girl would starve to death if it wasn't for Tod (and the people of Alaska)
that "girl" is 47, btw.
I think we have all understand that free speech has limits and consequences, "yelling fire in a crowded theater".
Right wing violence is not on the rise. Left wing violence never went away, it's covered up and enabled by the lefty MSM... that's why acts of terrorism are now man-made disasters without an apparent motive.
Sarah Palin's church was firebombed and burned down just 5 weeks after the 2008 elections while people were still inside doing Christmas crafts. She's also been assaulted. Never heard? MSM will not report on leftist violence. It would still be a major story today if Obama's church had been burned down. MSM puts everybody at risk by not reporting leftist violence because it does not alert the public and does not identify and ostracize the behavior, allowing it to continue under the public radar.
More? 800 were arrested at the RNC convention for such things as arson, dropping 50 lb bags sand onto delegate cars from overpasses, and an elderly women delegate was sent to the hospital with facial lacerations, and two were convicted for being caught red-handed with crude napalm bombs trying to firebomb delegates. In Texas, Governor Perry Governor's mansion was also firebombed and gutted, June 2009.
There are 200+ (white) churches burned every year. There were 400+ attacks and acts of violence documented in CA where opponents of gay marriage had their home and business addresses mapped and posted online in to be targeted. The guy who flew the plane into the IRS bldg in TX was a marxist.
Some US 'commmunity organizer' group members regularly visit Venezuela where Chavez is encouraging them, and offering support, to take up arms and infiltrate into the US to cause marxist chaos. We know this because the FBI informant who turned in the firebombers at the RNC convention also went to Venezuela and got the pitch from Chavez. It scared the shit out of him and that's why he turned informant. The FBI informant also received credible death threats from other leftists (more arrests & convictions) for his role in getting the failed firebombers arrested and convicted. Wade Rathke, (ACORN and SEIU organizer) who receives millions of taxpayer money for his social justice work with the community groups, had called the informant a "Rat" and excoriated him for turning in the firebombers on his website prior to the death threats.
The left is not only violent, they are clearly organized and dangerous, and don't seem to worry about getting outed by the MSM anytime soon. Don't be played by the lefty MSM propagandavision.
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WTF do you idiots read HuffPo?.
Talk about pure haters,damn.
Sarah Plain, and anyone that knows her had as much to do with this a TD.
Fking Idiot.
Anti Illegal, Pro 2nd Amendment? Democrat, I vote nutcase, or a Dem operative.
How does a D rating from the NRA make her pro-2nd Amendment?
Well maybe it's a coincidence with palin, maybe not.
Either way, someone she had targeted, is now shot, and maybe now or soon dead.
But keep cashing those checks from the fucktards Palin. While others actually stay in their job and obviously risk everything, you take the money and run.
Either way, related or not, Sarah 'dumbfuck' Palin has to realize she's playing with fire, and this should in her head, hit home.
You've taken a riveting piece of breaking news and turned it into a snore fest.
I've done nothing. Not my fault your brain doesn't work the way it should.
I've done nothing.
Well at least it doesn't take too long to type your resume.