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Congresswoman Gabby Giffords Shot "Point Blank In The Head" At Town Hall Event In Tucson
From Breaking News: Local media is reporting Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, a Democrat, was shot ‘point blank in the head at a town-hall like event in northern Tucson. Is this the beginning?
Update from NBC News: Dem Party in Tucson saying Giffords taken to hospital, 5 others also shot. Shooter apparently in custody.
Update 2: from Fox Phoenix: 12 people shot at Gabby Giffords community meeting. Congresswoman among the injured, while CNN reports 6 dead and 15 wounded.
Update 3: NPR confirms Gifford has died.
Update 4: Reuters refuting the previous NPR news, and states that Giffords is still alive, in surgery, nine other patients brought in from shooting, per a hospital spokeswoman
The best coverage of this event we have found so far is, ironically, on Sky News:
And now it gets pathetically political: Breaking news reports that a liberal blogger blames Sarah Palin for Gabrielle Giffords assasination attempt.
“F*** it. I’m going there” One liberal blogger wrote on Saturday
after news of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot dead in point
blank range at a Tuscon rally. The blogger TBogg
blamed former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin for the congresswoman’s
death after Palin named Giffords as one of her ‘targets’ during the 2010
mid-term elections. Palin was caught in controversy when she published on her Facebook
page a graphic that showed several ‘target’ districts, including
Giffords 8th district in Arizona.
Gawker has provided a description of the shooter:
A gunman indiscriminately fired into a crowd at a gathering for Democratic representative Gabrielle Giffords outside a Safeway in Tucson, Arizona this morning. Giffords and at least five others were shot, according to NPR. The gunman was tackled and arrested.
Update: We spoke to an eyewitness, Steven Rayle who
was on the scene at the time of the shooting and helped to hold the
suspect down while waiting for police. Here's what he said:
The event was very informal: Gifford had set up a table outside the
Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman,
who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford
in the head first. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor,
Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.
After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a
few seconds, hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than
10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead.
When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee,
but a member of Gifford's staff tackled him. The Rayle helped hold him
down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-or 20 minutes
later. 30 minutes later the EMS came. Rayle said he was "stunned" by how
long it took medical help to arrive.
The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short
hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or
while being held down. He didn't look like a businessman, but more of a
"fringe character," our source said.
From Giffrods Wikipedia page:
Gabrielle Giffords (born June 8, 1970) is the U.S. Representative for Arizona's 8th congressional district. She is a member of the Democratic Party.
She is the only member of the U.S. Congress whose spouse, astronaut Mark E. Kelly, is an active duty member of the U.S. military.[1]
Giffords is known as a strong proponent of solar energy as well as for her work to secure the border with Mexico.[2] [3]
Giffords was first sworn in as a congresswoman on January 3, 2007.
She is the third woman in Arizona's history to be elected to serve in
the U.S. Congress. In her inaugural speech on the floor of the House of
Representatives, Giffords said a comprehensive immigration reform
package needs to include modern technology to secure the border, more
border patrol agents, tough employer sanctions for businesses that
knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and a guest-worker program. In her
first month in office, Congresswoman Giffords voted to support increased
federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, raising the minimum wage, endorsing the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission,
and supporting new rules for the House of Representatives targeting
ethical issues. Giffords also voted to repeal subsidies to big oil
companies and invest the savings in renewable energy. "We put our national security at risk by relying on oil from unstable regimes in the Middle East and Latin America," Giffords told her colleagues in a speech on the House floor during debate on the Clean Energy Act. The act repeals $14 billion in subsidies given to oil companies and establishes a Strategic Renewable Energy Reserve to increase research in clean renewable energy, to develop greater energy efficiency, and to improve energy conservation.
During the 2007 session of Congress, Giffords introduced a bill (H.R. 1441)[4] that forbids the sale of F-14 aircraft parts on the open market.[5] She also voted for the contentious May 2007 Iraq Emergency Supplemental Spending bill,
saying, "I cannot, in good conscience, allow the military to run out of
money while American servicemen and women are being attacked every
day".[6]
Giffords is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the New Democrat Coalition.
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How is the fact it took a private-public enterprise 30 mins to respond proof that all the slowness came from the "private" side of that hyphenation? I don't follow the logic.
Look up the operational structure of the ambulance side of EMS in Tuscon for your answer.
In other words, you don't know.
No, I know because I actually look first and you would too if ya tried that Google thingie first.
I will add that perhaps there were strictures against a private ambulance service responding to a gun shot call without the all clear from the police first. All that will come out.
Tyler, is there some way WE could put in an Icon like a thumbs up on some of these blogs. Junking gets old, my fingers are tired. And by the way, if you could put the login math question in braille, it would help me out alot:) Guns don't kill, bullets do! Love this place, gotta go clean my guns just in case a nutty politician shows up at my front door for some more revenge on my sheeple ass!
hERE is a JUNK simply for the sake of complaining about the junk.
Shit is too fucking serious to bitch and complain.
Federal Judge dead, 9yr old dead.
This was a random nutjob..pure and simple, no one murders 9yr olds,unless in a random spree.
Perhaps they were all Reptilians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp_K8prLfso
Or to make it look random.
and you know this as fact?? Don't just make shit up.
Drag.
If your response was to my post, NO I do not know it as fact.
But, since I am not a murderer, or a criminal, my semi normal mind cannot rationalize premeditated useless murder of a 9yr old, can yours?.
yeah no one except a government tool. keep smoking that crack.
tell that to all the countries amrka has troops in.
Cathartes,
If you seriously believe American troops murder children for the hell of it, your one sick dude.
Collateral damage, yeah, shit happens.
Mowing down children for fun, hell no.
and I suppose their doing god's work?
get a clue, their a bunch of hired guns and the big guy upstairs isn't impressed
luckily, they breath in so much DU they won't be around for the 5th inning
collateral damage means anyone and anything that gets in the way of the jackboots; that's your collateral damage big guy
Obama speaking live, referred to Giffords past tense as if she were dead.
According to AZ Surgeon, confident of FULL recovery.
This is a horrible thing. Senseless, stupid and sick.
Is very sad innocent people get hurt.
and so it begins, about fucking time, cunt deserved every gram of lead. every single one of them has one reserved. now do you get what the fuck is going on in this shithole? keep fucking us in the ass. all you assholes whinnigg and crying here all day everyday about guns gold and ammo, now shit happens, probably some manchurian candidate and they will now take all guns away from you, I don't even own a gun, and you assholes all say "awe it' so sad" "so senseless" and what they are doing to us is not??? WELL WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT?!? WAKE THE FUCK UP! THIS IS NOTHING, IT HASNT EVEN GOTTEN BAD ENOUGH YET!
You are a phony Soros drone. Conservatives are outraged at this loss of life. You just want to make it look like the right thinks like you. You are a fool.
you tool! i'm a fucking lefty/righty asshole !!!! burn soros too!!!! him first! I COULD GIVE SHIT ABOUT LEFT/RIGHT, LIBERLA/CONSERVATIVE !!!! GET YOU HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS COWARD!
gangland - member 18 weeks
Inciting violence and being a newbie here classifies you as a govt shill as far as I am concerned. Your commentary means nothing!
yes and yours means everything. Inciting violence, get over yourself asstripe! government shill? you're fucking delusional!
your very statements in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??" and "Go back to Stormfront where you belong!" and "We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus."
IDIOT! can you keep your nonsense drivel straight?
Gangland, likely your old enough to own a weapon.
Plus, your an idiot.
that really hurt. that was deep. stunning profundity.
This appears to be Jared Loughner: http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=328&size=550x550_mb&ptp_p...
Judging from his stuff on YouTube, I'd guess he may well be schizophrenic.
Surgeon VERY OPTIMISITIC SHE WILL SURVIVE, and Recover.
I expect homelaaaaaaand secuuuuurity to knock on my door post-haste. ask me if i give shit, you're all lost selfish fucking cowards, soon as the real shit happens you BEG FOR SECURITY!!!
Well thank goodness that at least one person here at Zero Hedge has every damn thing in life and the world figured out. Ladies and Gentleman, I give you..............
gangland
How Zero Hedge has ever survived previous to gangland's brilliant analysis and commentary will be a mystery for the ages.
your very statements in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??" and "Go back to Stormfront where you belong!" and "We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus."
now you can shut the fuck up.
Yaaaaaaaay!
This doesn't pass the smell test at all. She's the youngest prettiest woman (moderate democrat) in congess and gets violently shot in the head. She's not a syndicate member or even close and not guilty of anything and there are 1000 other politicians and bankers guilty of high crimes that are safe as can be. All the news reports say the shooter is a crazy 22 y/o psycho who can't deal with a U.S. currency not backed by gold and silver. This sounds like they want to paint PM investors as hair trigger assasins. Until proven otherwise this is a false flag assasination to garner political cover and sympathy to further ramp up the police state and to declare gold/silver investors as dangers to society. Not buying this. It smells very bad. The old white guys in control may have sacrificed an inocent virgin to save themselves. Certainly wouldn't be the first time. Julius Ceasar was stabbed and killed by half the Senate because they didn't like the way things were going to turn out for them. Wonder if they will let anyone hear from the alledged shooter before he gets Jack Rubied.
I agree there is a funny smell about this, time will tell what that is I hope, though things have a way of getting covered up and/or used to further someones agenda instead of taken for the random acts they may be.
penis,
IF, and a huge IF, I were into this as a conspiracy, my $ would be on the Judge being #1 on the list.
penis,
IF, and a huge IF, I were into this as a conspiracy, my $ would be on the Judge being #1 on the list.
I remember having this same type of discussion with my husband regarding the invasion of Iraq and weapons of mass destructions... Nahh... they wouldn't be stupid enough to invade Iraq if Saddam didn't have WMD (I'm just being paranoid, the people (not to mention the rest of the world) will string the powers that be up when they find out they had been played for as fools)!!!
Nahh... they (TPTB) wouldn't do something like this to marginalize the voices calling for a removal of the banking industry from controlling our currency and now our government???? I hope I am wrong...... and it truly is just some poor mentally damaged kid and a ramdom act of violence.
I totally agree with your post. This does smell funny. I really like this congressman, and there are many others that are obviously crooked and bad such as Dodd and Frank, you copuld throw in Jefferson and Stevens in the criminal. There are many damaging representatives, but this Lady was not one of them
This will not fit well into the MSM "cliche" of a "rightwinger" with a gun. Some of what these asshats in congress are doing is treasonous and the need to be removed by an offical process, and if that means militia, then fine.
It does look as if this asshole will let the media paint with a broad brush those that disagree with our insane or absent monetary policy as "terrorists" and "Insane peeple with an agenda" and then are then looking for status quo.
Bad all around for the USa. A good congressman is shot, and those that disagree with current economic policy will be lumped in and discredited with this crazy lout.
Rumor that this is the Shooter's YouTube channel. If true, Feds will probably take it down soon.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4
this is his reading list?
Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
and he joined less than 3 months ago? total bullshit! the only thing missing in there is "catcher in the rye"
Damn, reads like my Netflix suggestions for me. LOL.
I noticed you only joined ZH about 4 months ago. I see a connection!
the taint jugum in your fat ass is what youre seeing.
CNN just confirmed the name. He lists his fav books, among them "Mein Kampf". Nuff said.
totally made up fake list, so he read hitler AND marx??? give me a fucking break and she was moderate to boot?? and so pretty, awe....riiight. shit throw in the whole kitchen sink, gulliver, oz, hemingway, alice, plato, oh but they forgot salinger. complete bullshit!
His videos were posted several weeks ago. Definitely read like manifestos.
Any bets this guy knew he had a youtube channel? Wait, he wasn't working with an undercover FBI handler was he? You know, like those other domestic terrorists were?
notice it wasn't in his name.. yet the maker of the account feels the need to state his name not once but twice in the profile... total mock up.. sick to even think of it.. where the hell is his myspace if that crap gets to stay up?
+1984
It's offical... Obama just won his second term.
Ron Paul already lost before he even started...
http://youtu.be/U3dIkEd8hHM
Well, it does take a pretty broad brush to encompass the roughly 50% of the US population that don't want and intrusive nany police state in America.
So, because someone reads Mein Kampf they are a lefty loon likely to do a random shooting? Hmmm, better watch out for most history students.......oh, and start banning those dangerous books......
He also listed "Alice in Wonderland." So, what is your point?
It was a Political expose',must read between the lines.
Wow, it almost reads too psycho textbook: functional autistic, schitzo, paranoia. Anyone see this stuff before the shooting?
I junked you for insinuating that having Autism makes one predisposed to senseless murder. I have an Autistic son and you haven't a clue what you are talking about. Where do these know it all newbies come from, anyhow?
same place you "tenured and special" folks come from asshole!
We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus.
your kid being a retard is definitely genetic, thanks for playing!
Your being an unemployed loser posting comments on ZH from your parents basement is laughable!
you guys are ridiculous. grow up.
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what's laughable is your end of the gene pool fat ass.
The infinite level of your wisdom is simply astounding! You must be the smartest human being on the planet!
your very statement in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??"
exposed dumbass.
I was not insinuating that Autism makes someone predisposed to senselemurder. I was making the case that someone was setting up the gunman with that and similar characteristics. Now rock your self back and forth until you start feeling better.
Senselemurder usually has the effect of making me rock back and forth for some reason.
FYI...Just because someone is Autistic does not make them susceptible to mind control or being set up to engage in something they otherwise would not have any more than someone who is Neuro-Normal. On the contrary, most people with Autism have a heightened sense of peception. They have the ability to notice the smallest things out of place and most would probably sense something wrong with someone attempting to trick them into doing something they should not.
Autism, and a host of other genetic disorders, are the direct result of inbreeding.
Either your parents, or the mother of your child, you and the mother of your child, or all of said factors combined, resulted in your childs autism.
You are solely responsible for your fucked up kid.
Right...Thanks for clearing that up for me, genius.
this guy has a neg iq, you could explain it to his fat addled brain all day to no avail. ignore his fat ass.
his very statements in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??" and "Go back to Stormfront where you belong!" and "We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus."
That means alot to me coming from the smartest person in the world!
Which must be why you keep responding back to him, lol! you should quit while you're...uh...nevermind...
is the bullet ok
can we use it for reload...
this is gonna get ugly
take care..
arizona is an open carry state. loaded gun on the seat of your truck, or on your belt, is legal (why the junk?) just sayin, if you see someone carrying a gun in public, in say calif. it would be cause for concern. ariz or texas, no big deal, so no precaution
Does anyone know why a federal judge was at this event? Or did he just happen to be in the store grocery shopping?
He and the Congresswoman probably work at the same building.
Just wondering. It's a little weird that he shot two federal officials in the same place at the same time.
This seems like a random f'tard act of violence. This gal seems pretty moderate - even a gun rights advocate, rare for a democrat. Seems she happened to be the person in office when this f'tard went off. Or, maybe it's that darn Sarah Palin.............
Sarah Palin is the new George Bush, don't you know?
Yeah, kind of noticed that. Gotta have a boogey man, or woman, out there at all times to scapegoat I suppose.
I don't like bush or palin but, you are the biggest fucking asshole! IDIOT! Obama IS Bush you fucking MORON!
Nazis are so fucking evil!
GEE REALLY?!?
Go back to Stormfront where you belong!
really stunning how much of a MORON you are! you have no fucking understanding of ANYTHING!
Ohhh, Okay Einstein!
Wanna play Dodgeball??? LOL.
WE ARE SO FUCKED!
http://youtu.be/SUgCxVbtlMQ
your very statement in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??" and "Go back to Stormfront where you belong!" and "We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus."
you can't even keep you drivel consistent, what a douche.
You are the one with a swastika in your icon.
But I digress, I should not attempt to refute your brilliance. What with the elegant use of profanity and slurs on display in your rants I do not see how a simpleton like myself could ever hope to refute the eminently superior intellect that you possess!
School girl comeback, I looked at your comments in this thread and he's right, jerome you're an inconsistent troll with a needy desperation about you and a whiny bent. I don't like what he says, but at least he is consistent...
When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it. It would behoove the kleptocrats and their dumbass supporters to keep that in mind. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear.
You got a tear to shed (or maybe just a little sadness for a life cut short) for the little girl that died or do you think she was a supporter of the kleptocrats and deserved what she got??
And what about the countless people who don't have the resources to have children because the kleptocrats took everything? Do you shed a tear for the unborn? I doubt you even considered that.
And what about the homeless, hungry kids as a result of the elite?
Or worse yet, those who were offed by their own parents becuase they could not deal with their families financial collapse?
Whats funny to me is that he is so obviously schizophrenic and nobody here seems to just say "wow.what a crazy fuck!" Some of you sound as crazy as him. It will come out that he he has long history of mental disease,probably off his meds. I see these people everyday in my line of work.
Sometimes I think ZH is here to ground me in reality..sometimes I see that it's here to remind me that we are all fucking nuts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
I'm just waiting for the news report that confirms that he was on some kind of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor drug. Seems that alot of people that go berserk are on these. (Colombine, Virginia Tech, Northern Illinois...etc.)
Correlation/causation, blah blah blah.
A lot of wackos are placed on SSRIs, you know.
Times like this I'd like to point out: loonies are a Rorschach test.
(Not directed at anyone in particular:)
If you look at someone like this guy and think you're an expert on his politics, you're crazy or a fool, and quite likely both.
Don't be silly. That just isn't fun for people. The media need to write stories, they want there to be a hidden agenda, a conspiracy linked to the tea party, fits nicely for the attempted murder of a democrat politician doesn't it? And the media have columns inches to fill.
Meanwhile average joe at home wants to think of it as the start of widespread civil unrest, or a government false flag operation. Average Joe's life is slightly more entertaining when he indulges in these fantasies, thinking of it as the act of an individual madman is just boring. Much more fun when evil old George Soros and the Rothschilds are involved.
As a random aside Brazil's top coffee and sugar producing states have been hit by weeks of flooding which have left 30,000 displaced. Say hello to higher commodity prices and more civil unrest across the globe.
The shooter was apparently a leftist loon with photos of him burning the US flag.
Apparently spin coming is that it is because gun laws are not restrictive enough. To keep leftist loons from killing people.
I only wish that more people in the audience were carrying pistols. Instead of 4 or more dead and many wounded, there would be a dead assailant. Similar to the muslim Army psychiatrist that killed so many because no one on the army base was allowed to carry a gun.
Hey, if only a fraction of a percent of people go off the rails, then why not let the rest of us carry a gun? I would feel better knowing that, instead of waiting for 30 minutes while the police put on body armor.
Yep, Libs Gone Wild. No one here can name a conservative since Timmy that wigged out. Half the people posting here seriously deserve to be on the no-fly list.
only half?
Feeling somewhat generous, peni.
Faux news is sure playing up the gold and silver is money angle on this. Me thinks they are aiming at Ron Paul and of course most of the people on this blog and others like it, who have been dissing the FED etc. We are all terrorist now.
Could not agree more!
His videos say nothing about gold and silver as money. Only that he was going to create a new currency.
Interestingly, the original link to "his" videos had no mention of gold and silver. Later, a version of "his" videos mentioned silver and gold in the final seconds.
This whole situation stinks of something.
SWEEEEET!
OBummer's ass? That sweet?
seems like Taxi Driver to me...
As for Rep Giffords, she is a decent person; certainly NOT the type of liberal Democrat from an urban area. She had run a business before being elected to Congress. The reporting indicates that her vote in favor of Obamacare might have been an issue, but readers here need to know we're talking about Tuscon! They are a few miles from the Mexico. Therefore they are on the front lines of drug wars, illegal immigration. A few miles outside of Tucson puts a person in towns like Tombstone. Everyone down there has a gun, and to some of the posters above, if ANY of you lived in southern Arizona, you'd have a gun too
She committed the crime of being a Dem, but not a looney Dim like Pelousy.
Nazi? Fuck! I hate AZ Nazis'!
Please add Communist/Progressive/Lib/Obama Voter to your hate list.
They are all the same.
(Hurry up Lib, you are slow on the junks.)
He also smoked pot which made him schizophrenic.
Ah! There's the motive! Gabby wanting to close the border!
The dip could've moved to CA, but he didn't know where it was.
God bless the NEA.
"smoked pot which made him schizophrenic."
Jesus freakin christ, you have firmly established your "pot IQ". A big fat zero.
I'm sure some hard core pharma would have fixed him right up.
I'm leaning towards it was the judge this f'tard (or his 'handlers' for the tinfoil hat types) wanted to take out. She just doesn't seem like a lightning rod type person. What does anyone know about the federal judge?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2011/01/slain-federal-judge-john-rol...
I doubt he even knew a judge was there, the rest seemed to be random targets.
begining of what?
looks like tons of people in here are waiting for war to happen.
They will be disappointed.
Buy dip in US stock market, unless you don't like cash.
By "cash" you mean ponzi FRNs?
No, I don't like those.
"beginning of what?"
I'll tell you what. The beginningof isolation of the political class and oligarchs, the funny little feeling in their stomachs that "they" are not safe. The smell of unrest, just another baby step.
I expect more of these, it's a trend. The guy at that city council shooting, now this kid. The longer the real economy sucks, the more those on the fringe lose it.
It is what it is, and football is a dangerous sport.
someone is getting shot (and killed) evey day in America, what makes her so special ?
There is nothing to say about this sad event other than it is a terrible tragedy where innocent people lost their life, including a nine year old girl. Nine year old child!!!! Wtf is wrong with these people who wake up one day and go on a shooting rampage killing innocent people and children? This is just sad. Period.
Well said leo. Well said.
exactly as if the world is coming to an end. this doesn't make sense, a deliberate but random act? house member, 9 yr old, fed judge? I just hope there is no federal over reaction to this like the patriot act...who benefits from this?
based on that vid alone, i'd guess he was schizophrenic.
maybe serving in war will do that to you....we shouldn't make any assumptions here, but ask the larger questions for now...this type of talk in combination with media information about this guy can be used to generalize about a lot of people, veterans, activists, gun owners etc....
This war seems to be different, guys that would have been pulled out of combat in past wars are now drugged up and sent back out. Whether it applies to this situation or not, we will be paying for this stupidity.
army just confirmed he was never accepted...which was my point...
My father and brother are psychiatrists. the vast majority of schizoprenics are harmless, even when off their meds. Only a small fraction of paranoid schizophrenics are criminally insane. we do not know if this individual has a psychiatric history, but we do know he's insane.
Homicidal Somnambulism
You sir, are comment 1,000. I know because I was 999 down thread and we posted at the same time but yours was after mine. Go get that $10,000 zh dollars and contributor status. Your zh dollars are every bit as good as Benny Bux.
More than likely the Mexican Drug Cartel. They did not like the restrains on the Border.
seems like she may have been one of the good guys. or had the potential to become one.
the guy was obviously menatally disturbed.. elevator didn't go all the way up to the top..
I don't think i've seen more comments posted on ZH in the six months I've been on here.
Also don't think I've seem one subject bring out so many wackos to comment on one subject.
Although it appears this young man was deranged it won't suprise me to see more of the same in the future because of the circumstance in the good ole ussa.
delete duplicate
Jared Lee Loughner, sounds like a ZH reader and that bothers me. I fear ZH and it's readers
will be judged from a post on Loughners you-tube account.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4
Forward to 3:36/3:47 and read....sound familiar?
Currency, gold, guns, real money.
BTFD!
This is so sad.
I am glad that the shooter was apprehended - alive.
Obama probably thinks this is a nice time to roll out his latest/greatest - the Internet ID.
Sheeple, get in line to get your ID. Don't worry, it won't be used to monitor you, it is just being issued so that you won't have to have so darn many log-in IDs...
BAAAAA BAAAAA OBAAAAA OBAAAMAAAAA BAAAMAAAAA BAAAAAAA BAAAAAA:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20027800-281.html?tag=mncol;posts
S1959 violent radicalization and home grown terrorism act of 2007 passed the house 404-6 it's been on the shelf in the senate in committee waiting for an event like this.
what it does is set up a structure for HUAC type hearings and centers of excellence around the country and if you are supeoned by the commitee and don't show up you will go to jail for at least 2 years.
Crafted by former House Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Jane Harman (D-CA), the legislation would create a domestic commission, a university-based "Center of Excellence" that would study and then, target domestic "radicalization" as a "threat" to the "homeland."
Lieberman and Collins claim that,
Citing the New York City Police Department (NYPD) as "experts" in the area of "homegrown radicalism," the report avers:
The bill would:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4
Goto the video and get the numbers of the years he is talking about. It looks to be some kind of code or key. Anyone know how to break this code? It forms a box...don't have my copy of Cryptology around but can anyone shed light on this?
Libertus
I've just run the numbers through a home-made decryption algorithm and the results are as follows:
"I'M A FUCKING FRUIT-LOOP."
I think we may have cracked the case.
Seriously...there might be something there. You can bet the NSA is looking into this.
Another mind-numbed Soros robot has done its duty to erode freedoms in the USSA. Rejoice, robots!
LOL! Yeah, until now they weren't making any moves on your freedoms.
"A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."
So much for the tea party right winger myth...
caitieparker @antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.about 3 hours ago in reply to antderosa caitieparker @antderosa he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class
about 3 hours ago in reply to antderosa caitieparker @antderosa He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"
about 3 hours ago in reply to antderosa http://mobile.twitter.com/caitieparker#22979901883682816
That was four years ago this young woman knew him. Four years. People change. So he was liberal in HS therefore he is liberal now. Post Hoc, my frend, Post Hoc. What we know now is nothing except that they are looking for a 50-year old man who accompanied him to the Safeway. So it was a conspiracy, ipso facto. When that man is caught we will know more.
Rick / Mariposa,
The story really isn't about the shooter, or his twisted motives... it's about the level of political discourse in America. If you didn't see the Sheriff's news conference you should check it out on line... several times he expressed his disgust at the hate and bigotry in the media today... far too many have made political and media (some both) careers cynically appealing to those prejudices for personal gain.
I for one hope it gives them, and their employers pause... perhaps they will rethink (not reload) the approach... there is blood on the hands of many this evening, and rational people knew it was just a matter of time before something like this happened.