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Congresswoman Gabby Giffords Shot "Point Blank In The Head" At Town Hall Event In Tucson

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 01/08/2011 14:25 -0400

From Breaking News: Local media is reporting Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, a Democrat, was shot ‘point blank in the head at a town-hall like event in northern Tucson. Is this the beginning?

Update from NBC News: Dem Party in Tucson saying Giffords taken to hospital, 5 others also shot. Shooter apparently in custody.

Update 2: from Fox Phoenix: 12 people shot at Gabby Giffords community meeting. Congresswoman among the injured, while CNN reports 6 dead and 15 wounded.

Update 3: NPR confirms Gifford has died.

Update 4: Reuters refuting the previous NPR news, and states that Giffords is still alive, in surgery, nine other patients brought in from shooting, per a hospital spokeswoman

The best coverage of this event we have found so far is, ironically, on Sky News:

And now it gets pathetically political: Breaking news reports that a liberal blogger blames Sarah Palin for Gabrielle Giffords assasination attempt.

“F*** it. I’m going there” One liberal blogger wrote on Saturday
after news of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot dead in point
blank range at a Tuscon rally. The blogger TBogg
blamed former Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin for the congresswoman’s
death after Palin named Giffords as one of her ‘targets’ during the 2010
mid-term elections. Palin was caught in controversy when she published on her Facebook
page a graphic that showed several ‘target’ districts, including
Giffords 8th district in Arizona.

Gawker has provided a description of the shooter:

A gunman indiscriminately fired into a crowd at a gathering for Democratic representative Gabrielle Giffords outside a Safeway in Tucson, Arizona this morning. Giffords and at least five others were shot, according to NPR. The gunman was tackled and arrested.

Update: We spoke to an eyewitness, Steven Rayle who
was on the scene at the time of the shooting and helped to hold the
suspect down while waiting for police. Here's what he said:

The event was very informal: Gifford had set up a table outside the
Safeway and about 20-30 people were gathered to talk to her. The gunman,
who may have come from inside the Safeway, walked up and shot Gifford
in the head first. According to Rayle, who is a former ER doctor,
Gifford was able to move her hands after being shot.

After shooting Gifford, the gunman opened fire indiscriminately for a
few seconds, hitting a number of people, including a kid no older than
10 years old. Rayle hid behind a concrete pole and pretended to be dead.
When the gunman apparently ran out of ammunition he attempted to flee,
but a member of Gifford's staff tackled him. The Rayle helped hold him
down while waiting for the sheriff to arrive, about 15-or 20 minutes
later. 30 minutes later the EMS came. Rayle said he was "stunned" by how
long it took medical help to arrive.

The man was young, mid-to-late 20s, white clean-shaven with short
hair and wearing dark clothing and said nothing during the shooting or
while being held down. He didn't look like a businessman, but more of a
"fringe character," our source said.

From Giffrods Wikipedia page:

Gabrielle Giffords (born June 8, 1970) is the U.S. Representative for Arizona's 8th congressional district. She is a member of the Democratic Party.

She is the only member of the U.S. Congress whose spouse, astronaut Mark E. Kelly, is an active duty member of the U.S. military.^[1]

Giffords is known as a strong proponent of solar energy as well as for her work to secure the border with Mexico.^[2] ^[3]

Giffords was first sworn in as a congresswoman on January 3, 2007.
She is the third woman in Arizona's history to be elected to serve in
the U.S. Congress. In her inaugural speech on the floor of the House of
Representatives, Giffords said a comprehensive immigration reform
package needs to include modern technology to secure the border, more
border patrol agents, tough employer sanctions for businesses that
knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and a guest-worker program. In her
first month in office, Congresswoman Giffords voted to support increased
federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research, raising the minimum wage, endorsing the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission,
and supporting new rules for the House of Representatives targeting
ethical issues. Giffords also voted to repeal subsidies to big oil
companies and invest the savings in renewable energy. "We put our national security at risk by relying on oil from unstable regimes in the Middle East and Latin America," Giffords told her colleagues in a speech on the House floor during debate on the Clean Energy Act. The act repeals $14 billion in subsidies given to oil companies and establishes a Strategic Renewable Energy Reserve to increase research in clean renewable energy, to develop greater energy efficiency, and to improve energy conservation.

During the 2007 session of Congress, Giffords introduced a bill (H.R. 1441)^[4] that forbids the sale of F-14 aircraft parts on the open market.^[5] She also voted for the contentious May 2007 Iraq Emergency Supplemental Spending bill,
saying, "I cannot, in good conscience, allow the military to run out of
money while American servicemen and women are being attacked every
day".^[6]

Giffords is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the New Democrat Coalition.

More as we see it.

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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:39 | 859719 jmc8888

ROFL

It helps

How do you get around it?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:01 | 859844 CrockettAlmanac.com

Self employment. I highly recommend it.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:43 | 859440 Mike2756

Same thing happened after Waco, idiot politicians never learn. When will a rabble rousing pol get it in the head?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:29 | 859639 DosZap

Mr.jm Jagoff.

Sarah targeted her SEAT, she won over a Tea Party Candidate by 4k votes.

In case your a libtard, there are differing meanings to Targeting.

Dikhed

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:07 | 859267 Jerome Lester H...

Quoting Huffpo here really does not gain you much credibility!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:30 | 860569 gangland

like your fat ass does?

your very statements in this thread :"Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??" and "Go back to Stormfront where you belong!" and "We at least know gangland is a Stormfront alumnus."

you can't even keep your shit straight idiot.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:09 | 859282 justtotaketheedgeoff

Okay guys, look, I don't care what her views were. She was elected by the people of her district and I consider any attack on any elected official to be an attack on the Constitution and the people of the United States. ALL of the people.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:31 | 859382 Uncle Remus

You really need to think about what you wrote in the broader context of what our elected representatives have themsleves done to the Constitution.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:57 | 861064 gangland

jingo bs; like you give a shit about "the constitution and the people of the united states" I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:11 | 859288 Trimmed Hedge

If anything, at least she has great healthcare....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:13 | 859298 Quinvarius

Can a member of congress live without a head?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:51 | 860630 Dr. Sandi

NO! If they don't give head regularly, they don't get funding for the next tranche.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:17 | 859320 Maos Dog

This congressperson was center-right (dispite the D by her name) and was hated by the left.

Just two days ago, this was posted on KOS:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/6/933828/-My-CongressWOMAN-vote...!-And-is-now-DEAD-to-me!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:20 | 859333 Jerome Lester H...

Dude...That means Kos conspired with Sarah Palin to carry this out. Who would have thought that those two would collaborate on something!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:30 | 859378 the grateful un...

KOS is center-right, although Giffords a "Blue Dog", which is essentially Pelosi's position. Blue Dogs are currently center-center I would think, which is left-center of Obama, but not so far left that she would be considered part of the disaffected progressive base. When the GOP came to power in 2000 they went after the Blue Dogs, probably a Rove tactic, to neutralize that part of the opposition closest to their own position, and create a fundamental divide with which to argue against the Democrat party, from the bully pulpit. It was a very effective technique, and still is, as progressives are thoroughly marginalized, and a Democrat is in the White House..

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:53 | 859481 the grateful un...

KOS is a rag for knee jerk liberals who would rather belong to the Democrat party than stand for anything. They pulled that link by the way

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:17 | 859581 Everyman

KOS is center-right, although Giffords a "Blue Dog", which is essentially Pelosi's position.

No it isn't. Are you insane! Pelosi is just left of communists. And KOS is totally lefty. You are a nut and blinded idealouge.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:00 | 860936 the grateful un...

i assume you're being sarcastic so i junked you

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:17 | 859322 Everyman

You all need to get a grip. This is the work of a crazy person. I have been postin on this blog stating this would happen for over 6 months. It is because the American People are angry and some are hurting to the point of going nutz. That is the provacitive reason for my post. If people are going crazy and trying to assinate elected representation (that would not change the votes much anyway), what do you think those that lose an entire fortune at the hands of a manipulated market POZI scheme with the likes fo Bernake, Hank Paulsen, Lolyd Blankfiend, Larry Summers, and Timmah? These are all NON ELECTED and appointed, and they have done much more damage than an elected representative has. I actually liked this particular Representative.

BTW, those idiots blaming this on Sarah Palin, or The Right wingers, you need to know the lefties are just as bad at this, and throw in the illegal alien contingent and you have pissed off people all around.

That is why I have been posting the way I have been.

I have fully expected an all out shooting CIVIL war, and I expected it a year ago.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:20 | 859334 liberal sodomy

You're only about 15 years behind Thomas Chittum and myself. Don't think it's not an intentional demolition.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/CWII.pdf

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:25 | 859361 AnAnonymous

,need to know the lefties are just as bad at this, and throw in the illegal alien contingent and you have pissed off people all around.

Illegal alien contingent? by this, you mean US citizens?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:18 | 859327 Jerome Lester H...

Authorities looking for a possible second suspect according to fox news

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:19 | 859330 robertocarlos

Will the President ask the Russians to give her twin brother a lift to the funeral?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:21 | 859339 almost_have_a_name

I suppose Facebook owns the shooters last words now.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:21 | 859594 blunderdog

That's the funniest thing I've read in weeks. Thanks.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:21 | 859340 arnoldsimage

Carnac the Magnificent sees naked body scanners in all grocery stores by monday morning. seig heil!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:21 | 859341 Barb Dwire

As a former firefighter/paramedic I can guarantee you it didn't take 30 minutes for fire/ems to arrive. Many a time we rolled up on a house fire/shooting within 3 minutes of dispatch and people were screaming at us over how long it had taken us to arrive.

Politics be damned - nobody has the right to shoot another unless they are being physically threatened. Assassination is the method of the coward.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:22 | 859597 rwe2late

They may have arrived promptly, but the police may have prevented them from entering the area for 30 minutes or more.

I seem to remember reading about a similar problem attending to the wounded with the shooting at the college in Virginia.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:35 | 859686 DosZap

Barb,

Assassination is the method of the coward.

Or, the opposition.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:22 | 859347 flaunt

Save your tears for your fellow human beings, not those who are full-fledged members of the ruling class.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:32 | 859662 flaunt

Anyone care to comment rather than just hitting the junk button?

Why should I shed a tear for someone who is a member of the government and fully supports all their criminal behavior? Give me one good reason why it's not far more tragic that a hardworking private citizen is tazered and shot sitting on their porch by a local enforcement division simply because one of the members of the divison had a personal beef with the individual. This must be the worst case of stockholm syndrome the world has ever seen.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:58 | 860116 rwe2late

You should "shed a tear" (figuratively if not literally)

to show you have some compassion and pity for all who suffer and die, no matter "your" side or "theirs",

both sides, no matter how insightful or deluded they have been.

There is nothing much to distinguish delight over the death of your "enemies", to indifference. And neither attitude seems to make this world a better place.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:19 | 860364 boiow

what he said.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:24 | 859353 Trimmed Hedge

Are the bankers next?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:35 | 859397 PolishErick

I wouldnt bet on it...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:27 | 859368 Uncle Remus

Hmm. Accodring to the WSJ, a federal judge was also killed at that location.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:39 | 859715 DosZap

Don't know if he was killed, no info for sure, he was shot.

Reason speculation was he ruled IN favor of Illegals getting to sue the U S and collect damages.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:55 | 859806 Uncle Remus

From 2009:

In February, when U.S. District Judge John Roll presided over a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit filed by illegal immigrants against an Arizona rancher, the Marshals Service was anticipating the fallout.

When Roll ruled the case could go forward, Gonzales said talk-radio shows cranked up the controversy and spurred audiences into making threats.

In one afternoon, Roll logged more than 200 phone calls. Callers threatened the judge and his family. They posted personal information about Roll online.

"They said, 'We should kill him. He should be dead,' " Gonzales said.

Roll, who is the chief federal judge in Arizona, said both he and his wife were given a protection detail for about a month.

"It was unnerving and invasive. . . . By its nature it has to be," Roll said, adding that they were encouraged to live their lives as normally as possible. "It was handled very professionally by the Marshals Service."
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2009/07/09/20090709threats0709.html#ixzz1AU1Ez0tF

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:29 | 859373 f16hoser

My prayers to her and her family. If the shooter(s) turn-out to be illegal(s) I hope every state will adopt AZ stance on immigration. We need it anyway. Or at least a "time-out."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:33 | 859391 LawsofPhysics

The thought police from the ministry of truth are already hard at work on CNBC, they have taken down all comments regarding this story and are blocking any additional comment.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:36 | 859405 Trimmed Hedge

A number of comments have been mod-deleted from here, as well. Including one of my own....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:56 | 859496 Tyler Durden

Certain comments, such as several of yours, were in such poor taste that not even Zero Hedge would take the legal risk of hosting them.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:03 | 859524 Barb Dwire

And that's saying something!!!

I'm pretty disgusted at the tone of a lot of people here. The dehumanizing of people of differing political positions/classes is alarming and indicative of the decline of our society.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:26 | 859621 Alex Kintner

+1 Amen. Lots of depraved commenters on this site today.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:43 | 860047 Uncle Remus

The dehumanizing of people of differing political positions/classes is alarming and indicative of the decline of our society.

Which is why governments do it (dehumanizing of people of differing political positions/classes) and why we should be paying attention.

Look through your disgust to see the roots of the evil, understand the evil but don't desensitize yourself to the disgust.

That probably isn't articulated well and I apologize if that is the case.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:09 | 860336 Barb Dwire

Look all this lib/con BS is as contrived and pointless as is religion/borders/gov't/etc. It's all bullshit tribalism us versus them. It's the sheeple that believe it that frighten me the most. I'm surprised to see so many of them out in force here. To be honest I've really had to rethink how I view a lot of the regulars here. Maybe they are financially savvy, but as to politics - yeesh, scary stuff.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:00 | 859830 Trimmed Hedge

Fair enough, Tyler.

I come from a background of completely uncensored postings (i.e., FuckedCompany and its derivatives).

What you've deleted (mine and others') was actually quite tame, in comparison....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:09 | 860335 Jerome Lester H...

Must have been some real enlightening conversations occuring there!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:12 | 860345 Barb Dwire

FC was one of the best sites during the tech bubble. Many a fun evening spent on that site.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:32 | 860520 gangland

you mean like your comments asswipe?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:25 | 860554 High Plains Drifter

Fucked company? Damn I forgot all about that place. I used to be on there several years ago. Ha ha . So they are gone now?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:34 | 860226 Blano

Either you might want to do another review, or you missed some.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:39 | 859417 KnightsofNee

Yes, we are busy over here at Minitruth. I am sure this perp will be identified as a follower of Goldstein. Damn proles. I need a hit of Victory Gin. Anyone want to meet me down at the Chestnut Tree Bar?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:34 | 859394 PolishErick

Well, it doesnt matter if it was political, drug related, a false flag, some lunatics goal in life... This was comming (people saw it- G. Celente: "one of the trneds will be off with their heads") and its not good. Even if its not a false flag it will be used to crack down on normal peoples right to bear arms. Even if its not political, this will inspire nut jobs to unload at any polititian in range- both parties are so detached from the needs of the people and the majorityof theese "reprisentatives" would gladly sell the whole country for 29.99$, that some people are acctualy cheering this on as a first reaction (dont tell me you dont see where this is comming from)...

This is just bad- shows how bad shit has gotten, all over. A few months ago we had a shooting here in Poland (in Lodz), one Ryszard C. shot and killed rep. Marek Rosiak from the PiS opposition party- alegedly he hated both major parties and planned to kill the House Speaker of the polish Sejm (from the ruling PO)... Oh... and normal, law abyding citizens CAN NOT own a gun here (ever since Hitler and Stalin)- so screw people who say gun regulations make a difference.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:35 | 859398 KnightsofNee

"When people lose everthing, and have nothing left to lose, they lose it." Gerald Celente

I guess this young man just discovered there are no jobs and there will be no social secrurity. Doubleplus bad!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:38 | 859413 trx

And there is more:

"A package addressed to U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano ignited on Friday at a postal facility in Washington, D.C. but was quickly extinguished and no one was injured, authorities said."

Package to U.S. homeland security chief ignites

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:41 | 859433 the grateful un...

former gov of AZ

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:39 | 859418 robertocarlos

Will the autopsy results be made known if some of the dead were hit by friendly fire? Or will the second gunman be blamed.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:40 | 859423 billwilson

Political assasination. More right wing violence.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:48 | 859459 PolishErick

blaming every crackpot, disaster, lost war, economic crysiss on the other side of the sandbox. More left-right paradigm Buuul$hiiiit!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:53 | 859479 Jerome Lester H...

I guess you have the inside scoop on this. Idiot!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:33 | 860578 gangland

no you are the fucking idiot!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:40 | 859427 OldSouth

Listen in on Iraq and Afghanistan veterans at any VA. Comments along the line of "I know I'm going to die because of what they (the DoD) did to me, but before I do I'm going to take out some SOB’s." are not uncommon. Is this idle talk?

Add that to long term U.S. policies giving Mexican criminals full reign over U.S. land and populations. Current weak attempts to stem their tide are being rebuffed with "shock & awe" techniques. Do we honestly believe it's going to get better without military level retaliation?

Continue summing up with our majority of Americans who have lost significant net worth, homes, their livelihood or more. Now watch our government and financial sectors continue to assume the populace is hunky-dory with their newly imposed serfdom.

Could the problem be that dangerous outliers develop out of any stressed population and we all chose to ignore that reality?

I'm guessing that in normal times civilization exerts controls via civil and criminal law over a minimal number of rogue responders. However, under stressed conditions the number of dangerous outliers increases to the point of overburdening standard processes. Typical response is history's ritual of enacting draconian laws & ham-handed controls over their “assumed to be misbehaving” citizens. Instead of helping, this only exacerbates stress levels of an already overstressed population. Welcome to the maelstrom.

The start of something? No, I suspect the true tipping point occurred a number of years ago - perhaps sometime around the time habeas corpus was suspended, housing collapsed, and our banks stole billions from American pocketbooks.

We're reaping the results of continued shortsightedness and acting surprised as society slowly tips off civilization’s cliff. It's somewhat like being sideswiped by a parallax obscured semi, or watching the death slide of a California cliff home in a mudslide. The initial perceived snail's speed of imminent disaster fools many spectators into believing there's still time to save Polly from the train tracks.

Think about the above while viewing talking head elite guests on just about any newscast. Their smirks, giggles and mocking of current events is mimicked by most whether left, right or moderate. Meanwhile government and financial hegemony can't comprehend what's in front of their respective noses.

The start of something? No, this is just part of a continuing increase in speed before it all crashes.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:50 | 859779 DosZap

A prisitne national Park 2500+ Acres in AZ is OFF LIMITS to the AZ populace, and all other Americans.

Gov Brewer if she had nads, after asking for, and getting NO help from the WH, (just the opposite as a matter of fact), should have long ago called out the Natl Guard,and taken her states Border back.)

Washington be damned.

If this situation was ongoing in Texas, it would have already been done.

Forgiveness is easier to recieve than Permission.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:41 | 860878 OldSouth

I suspect that park represents only a tiny portion of U.S. state land lost to Mexican terrorists.

The Federal government completed its appropriation of the National Guard under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008. State militias were initially pulled together under an umbrella of federal control with the National Defense Act of 1916, but until recently states maintained overarching control of their named Guard forces. Before 1916 states maintained protective forces acting only under state orders.

If Governors had "nads" they would fire their federal "National Guard" and recreate state militia. No Governors currently has control over their own protection. The "well armed militia" necessary for individual state security is long gone.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:42 | 859439 10044

"gun ban in public" coming up??

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:49 | 859462 laissez-faire

That's a great idea. A little poster of a handgun with a red slash and circle around it would have certainly prevented this tragedy.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:52 | 859477 nmewn

"That's a great idea. A little poster of a handgun with a red slash and circle around it would have certainly prevented this tragedy."

LOL...it's amazing how they think ain't it?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:13 | 860347 Terminus C

people who are going to kill other people will not because carrying a gun is now illegal. I don't understand why you fail to see the genius of this plan.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:50 | 859468 robertocarlos

Giffords is expected to live now. Wow! That is some lucky woman and a top notch medical system.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:54 | 859489 Trimmed Hedge

"I'm not dead yet!"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:17 | 860356 Terminus C

"You might as well be."

"I feel betterrrr."

"No you don't."

"I think I'll go for a walk."

"You're not foolin' anyone. Look, can you help me out here?"

"I don't know, it's against regulations."

"I feel happyyyyy."

*thud*

"Alright then, see you next thursday."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:07 | 859537 Uncle Remus

University of Arizona has a medical school.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:00 | 860310 Idiot Savant

I wouldn't call her lucky yet. We have to remember that quality of life matters much more than life itself.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:10 | 860821 saulysw

"quality of life matters much more than life itself". This has LOTS of implications.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:15 | 860832 nmewn

"quality of life matters much more than life itself". This has LOTS of implications."

You betcha! ;-)

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:52 | 859474 gloomboomdoom

White Americans are being targeted...(right on schedule)

God Damn this is getting scary! This sort of shit keeps me up at night!

Robert Rodriguez, FUCK YOU!!! and your pent up racism against white Americans.

Pat Buchanan always has a rationale and tempered approach to these type issues. God bless him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKyDLDlc99U

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:54 | 859485 deepsouthdoug

Take a look at the guy that ran against her last year.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/8/934297/-Second-Amendment-Solution...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:56 | 859498 Jerome Lester H...

Now I get it. Kos, Sarah Palin and the guy that ran against the Congresswoman conspired to do this. How did I not figure this out for myself?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:56 | 859494 praxis

"the capitalists will always find sufficient replacements for those removed by the actions of terrorists..."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:58 | 859504 Jerome Lester H...

Gerald Lauder name of gunman?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:01 | 859512 Jerome Lester H...

Not sure if spelled right. Just announced.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:04 | 859525 robertocarlos

My screen says Jared Laughner

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:11 | 859553 Jerome Lester H...

Thanks for the correction. Heard it on the radio so was unsure of spelling.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:19 | 859585 Jerome Lester H...

Jared Loughner....Has some vids on youtube...view before they remove them

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:32 | 860400 Terminus C

That was some wierd ass shit.

Interesting that his account is only three months old and his first video was published one month ago.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:59 | 859505 razorthin

Very sad and frightening. Hope she pulls through. It's a side note and doesn't diminish my hope for her wellness, but I must wonder what the liberal media will do with this and how it will change the political dialogue and political psyche of Amercia.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:59 | 859507 KnightsofNee

I am sure what will be revealed was that the suspect was upset with the prospect that the debt ceiling was going to be raised, AGAIN. Ergo, anyone that opposes raising the debt ceiling is a "fringe character."

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:33 | 860223 DosZap

Uh, at 22, Ex Trashcanistan vet, mind fucked,(likely PSTD to hell) and all you need to do is watch his vids, to know this is ONE sick puppy.

None of his vids make any sense,sad very sad.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:59 | 859508 DCon

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/theknitter/SARAH-PALIN-TARGET-MAP...

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:01 | 859515 Jerome Lester H...

You are brilliant! sarah did it! Who would have thought!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:04 | 859526 DCon

Sarah suggested it

Is suggestion incitment?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:07 | 859538 Jerome Lester H...

I guess in your twisted world view a campaign photo is.

You should be a cop!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:01 | 859514 velobabe

hell i am going to come out and just say it, honestly i could care less. i am not even going to turn on the TV dumb shit tube and see the spin that will make me more sick then to hash this entire scenario over and over and over and over and over and over and over on ZH. i get my pertinent news that i can trust from zerohedge, I will digest it personally, and I will know exactly how I disgusted this news. this is just reality TV taking over, from american i doll her up so she is fuckable. junk me, i am use to it. this has zero affect on my day, really.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:03 | 859523 robertocarlos

A nine year old is dead. That is a bigger tragedy.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:05 | 859530 Jerome Lester H...

Indeed! As a parent my heart goes out to the family of the deceased child!

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 02:07 | 861175 Terminus C

Who junks this?

Wow.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:08 | 859543 razorthin

Mortifying.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:06 | 859532 onlooker

This Horrific act instantly changed dozens of lives and may have ended some of them. Let us hope and pray that the damage will be minimal. Speculation about the shooter is a waste of intelligent effort at this time. However, the medical response time may need to be addressed.

All other issues, and motives aside, this may be a large and damaging act upon the way Democracy has worked. This IS different than other shootings. The open meeting with the citizens by politicians to hear and discuss has worked well in the last couple of years. It was America as it should be. That process will now be like air travel with so many restrictions that people will not go. This was an effective blow to our election and political Freedom.

It is my hope that the de-briefing of this person will not be restricted to the liberal nice guy tactics. All methods should be used to extract all information. If he turns out to be a mental case, then let us be sure.

This is an awful day for those people. It is an awful day for America. The political and agenda opportunity is certainly open. Pay attention to how this is played---PAY ATTENTION.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:23 | 859599 Uncle Remus

You really need to look at things more objectively. If anything, this is a response to the way this Republic has NOT worked, to the way elected representatives of ANY party have ignored their constituents, how they have used every parliamentary trick in the book to pass legislation and enact laws that deprive the citizens of the their constitutional rights and deny future generations of the full benefits of the the fruits of their labor.

That violence has been resorted to, and in particualr, if true, the murder of a child, is indeed terrible. And irrespective of some of the perspectives aired in the comments, it is likely that most here have some feeling of condolence for the families. What each of us feels depends on our own circumstances.

But to describe this as "horrific" is at best misrepresenting the scale of the event in the broader context of the rape and pillage of this country.

You clearly have not seen horror.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:25 | 859637 rwe2late

"It is my hope that the de-briefing of this person will not be restricted...all methods should be used" - onlooker

junked for your encouragement of torture by the government.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:28 | 859539 Bow Tie

no doubt it will be endlessly spun into a left/extreme-right polarization issue and a means to crack down harder on political dissent. and lets not pretend that nearly all politicians don't have blood on their hands to start with.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:36 | 859696 rwe2late

agreed, this is the type of story which the mainstream media likes to transform from newsworthy to news spectacle,

there will be 24/7 denunciation of all "extremism" and "terrorism"

except that of our government.

Are TSA "enhanced" searches at all public meetings coming next?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:08 | 859541 szjon

I'm disgusted by some of the views on here. I love this site, I am currently in shock at the level of depravity and violent obsession in some of the people who post here. Be ashamed, very ashamed. Condoning an incident in which it appears a 9 year old girl has been killed is truly beyond contempt. I despair at the blood-thirstiness of some on here. you should hang your heads in shame you imbecilic morons.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:39 | 859717 Uncle Remus

I am currently in shock at the level of depravity and violent obsession in some of the people

So, when will you get shocked at the level of depravity, corruption and avarice in the politcal and financial class?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:14 | 859898 Barb Dwire

You can't be both? Give your head a shake.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:19 | 859931 fearsomepirate

You mean "I'm angry at the bankers and politicians" doesn't lead inexorably to "it's okay to kill children"?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:28 | 859970 Uncle Remus

You can, but seems to me the intentional destruction of an entire country by a few while its citizens do nothing warrants an exponentially higher level.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:14 | 860175 szjon

Niether my uncle or the famous detective from Edinburgh. Uncle Remus. Defender of the poor, the young and the innocent. Oops, I mean, apologist for the slayer of children, massacre of the innocent, defender of the law reaking, Uncle remus.

I hate the ruling class. I hate the greed and avarice of our current culture. I fight it, I protest, I post and educate.

You sir are nothing but a petty cunt and have less use to humanity than a set of testicle clamps. I hope your balls shrivel to dust and your cock falls off. We need no more of your kind, don't bother to reproduce you moment loving media whore.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:24 | 860197 Uncle Remus

Well at least you didn't call me a Nazi.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 07:52 | 861478 nmewn

LOL...true to his/her word, I think he/she was trying to educate you through the power of voodoo on genitalia...or sumpin ;-)

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:08 | 859542 trx

Hospital spokesman: 'optimistic' about chances of recovery of US Congresswoman Giffords who underwent surgery after being shot in head-

BBCBreaking

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:08 | 859545 gloomboomdoom

Be careful folks. This site is being watched and monitored.

Stormfront[com] Zerohedge[com]

Becareful. No more freedom of speech. No nothing. Got it yet?

Good. Be very afraid! Breakdown of the Rule of Law happens at breakneck speed going back into history. (Race wars breakout like wild fire)

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:22 | 859600 msjimmied

Do you really think most of us are "containable"? LOL! This is FightClub.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:25 | 859615 Jerome Lester H...

Stormfront is a white supremicist website. ZH is a financial blog. Are you to imply that ZH members are also members of Stormfront? Really??

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:35 | 859683 gloomboomdoom

@Jerome

nope. But I, myself, have gotten threatening calls from somewhere. Not saying it is ZH because I believe Tyler keeps all our info LOCKED DOWN.

Even though we have FREE SPEECH, the Hate Speech laws and so forth... are rather vague and open to interpretation.

We are supposedly in an economic depression... who has thousands of cash ready to pay a lawyer to help you get out of jail?????

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:38 | 860024 yabyum

Jerome, Liberal Sodomy is preety close.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:41 | 860038 Jerome Lester H...

So one member's views indicts the whole ZH community? The comment sounded more like an accusation against ZH as a whole.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:58 | 860461 gangland

gee im a zh member and you, showing your sheer and utter stupidity, have repeatedly have posted in this thread that im stormfront! FUCK YOU FAT FUCK YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY ZERO CREDIBILITY! try and make a consistent argument you autistic retard! stop talking out both sides of your fatfucking ass.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 21:36 | 860586 gangland

you couldn't add to nickles together fat ass.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:14 | 859561 Bigger Dickus

This is scary as hell. There must be a lot of desperate people out there who have nothing to lose.

For a democrat, she was not bad at all. At least she seemed to be NRA-friendly.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:14 | 859563 DosZap

Less than 5 mins ago, Congresswoman is alive, and communicating with Dr's.

Surgeon said 5 in ICU 5 in Surgery, one dead.

She is anti Illegal Immigration, and a firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:17 | 859580 Alex Kintner

To all the numbnuts celebrating that think their side just took down one of the enemy, please consider that the first person officially reported dead is a child.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:20 | 859591 Ham Wallet

Shep Smith says he has a video. And he is reading some text from it.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:22 | 859598 Ham Wallet

Sounds like a psycho, writing about "dreamers" and how people in that Az district are "illiterate"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:23 | 859601 Black Friday

"He didn't look like a businessman, but more of a "fringe character".

I guess unless you wear a suit you are "fringe".

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:23 | 859603 Jerome Lester H...

Jared Lee Loughner's YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/u/0/7uRjwPWaxiY

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:19 | 859605 Clapham Junction

(d)

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:24 | 859609 razorthin

"When people have lost everything, and have nothing left to lose, they lose it"

-Gerald Celente

Thanks again, banker scum.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:37 | 859707 gloomboomdoom

Alex Jones was right!

"Terrorist attack to be blamed on Tea Party"

Infowars goes into lockdown in 5,4,3,2,1.....

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 19:42 | 860250 DosZap

This comment is hilarious.

The Tea Party People never (not one documented case) started/caused any kind of violence that was attributed to them.

The SEIU thugs( Obammys Buds), on the other hand show up, beat down a brother,put him in the hospital, and cause a small shitstorm.

But, the Tea Party members caught all the vendictive shit,and accusations simply by protesting w/out physical violence go figure.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:25 | 859619 blunderdog

What bugs me most is that of course it's going to be politicians most accessible to the people (and generally the least powerful and corrupt) who are going to be the targets.

There are a few folks who go into politics because they actually think they can do good, and of all the possible assassination targets, they definitely deserve it the LEAST.

Meanwhile, the most corrupt, cynical, and powerful are well-insulated inside the Beltway and stand to gain from this sort of action.

Backwards, depressing, counterproductive. Bah.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:28 | 859634 Uncle Remus

Hey Tyler, how about an angle on Judge John Roll who was killed in the same incident. Involved in immigration issues.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:56 | 859810 Drag Racer

It is possible the Congresswomans shooting is a cover for the judges assasination. With the court ruling in Mass. over forclosures and Judge Roll's case history. Who knows anything yet...?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:59 | 859829 Uncle Remus

Exactly. Rabbit hole.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:09 | 859877 Drag Racer

could be a rabbit hole thing.

The American Bar Assoc. is already spinning it as "targeted" to the Congresswoman. How would they know anything yet??

http://www.abajournal.com/news?from=widget

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:28 | 859968 Drag Racer