Contrary To French Misinformation, The BRIC Block (And South Africa) Demands Non-European IMF Head, Questions Legitimacy Of Fund

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Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:35 | 1306991 Ecoman11
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Did the BRICs setup DSK? If so that was a brilliant move.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:36 | 1306993 JW n FL
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You can NOT Buy a Cop in New York!

Bloomberg on the other hand may be behind something for the homeland?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 20:27 | 1307328 theXman
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Looks like BRICs want something out of the negotiation. They won't necessarily block Lagarde, they just want something in return, perhapse a large share of the voting rights. I believe the position is still Lagarde's to lose. Whatever Junk said a few years ago does not matter.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:09 | 1307768 trav7777
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how about not another of the same ethnicity as all the rest of the western banking industry?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:10 | 1307770 silberblick
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Click below to see a visual graph of Bankster's dirty needs arranged according to Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs:

http://thesilvergoldhedge.blogspot.com/2011/05/banksters-dirty-hierarchy...

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 00:59 | 1307971 Urban Redneck
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The next Managing Director of the Fund should not only be a strongly qualified person, with solid technical background and political acumen

Diplomatic to English translation- BRICS veto Lagarde

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:37 | 1307177 Popo
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They didn't need to.  The Empire is burning on its own.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:32 | 1306992 JW n FL
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whomever wins this fight for head of the IMF.. their Country will be the next Egypt / Spain.. that is of course if we dont pick them.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:44 | 1307027 cossack55
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Is Iceland part of Europe or is it in the new "land of the free" zone?  I would nominate an Icelander, but only if their name is pronounceable. 

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:25 | 1307670 JW n FL
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and people say I'm Harsh! LOL!!

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:34 | 1306997 achmachat
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anyone else thinks it would be a good idea to buy tons of CNY and then just patiently wait for China to unpeg it?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:50 | 1307044 Nicholaz
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Good luck trying to buy CNY in the first place.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:56 | 1307062 achmachat
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that is very easy for me. Part of my family lives on the other side of the Great Wall.

Besides, at the Bank of China branch here in Luxembourg, you can now have an account in CNY if I'm not way off...

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:36 | 1307185 uniman
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I am an American citizen living in China.  I can get CNY.  If you are interested in figuring out how to do that, please let me know.  uniman@unibuck.dyndns.org

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:21 | 1307666 Coldfire
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No luck required at all. If you're in Hong Kong, you can buy up to CNY20,000/day/account. If you are in Singapore, there is no limit to the amount of CNY you can buy.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 08:01 | 1308360 Eager learner
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I can confirm there are also branches of China's national bank in England. You can open an account and deposited funds can be transfered to and from CNY via the interpipes banking at I believe no fee.

Downside is the account gets 0% interest. But it would be suitable for what achmachat is proposing.

ref: http://www.smartmoney.com/investing/economy/do-you-need-a-chinese-bank-account-1295020996110/

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 21:02 | 1307414 goldfreak
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i was wondering the same thing, why not buy CNY and hold it?

can you buy it at the airport? wouldn't be the cheapest way

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 21:25 | 1307492 Votewithabullet
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They have branches in the states and you can purchase only so many every day. If you perform a service in china you can recieve payment in renminbi/yuan. Caveat its made of paper.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 23:13 | 1307771 trav7777
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CNY??  Why?  Do you really think some paper that they print the shit out of to maintain false growth is going to increase in real value??

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 08:20 | 1308387 Eager learner
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Considering the Chinese manufacture and export a lot of stuff and have, as a result, massive currency reserves, yes. Clearly they have their own problems including high domestic inflation. But that inflation presents very good reasons to unpeg. Happier population (especially because the Chinese have high savings rates) and increased domestic consumption reducing reliance on exports being a couple.

Put it this way. If they unpeged their currency tomorrow do you think it would increase or decrease in value?

Ultimately it depends on how you define real value but as a short term play I think the idea has merit.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 08:32 | 1308417 Eager learner
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I've been considering it and checked out the bank accounts they are offering . The drawback is they are 0% interest (at least in the U.K.) and incur bank fees.

I think they are more for facilitating doing business and getting paid in CNY as you basically get two accounts (One denominated in your local currency, the other in CNY) which I believe you can transfer between at current exhange rates for no fee as many times as you want.

If you can get actual currency that might be the better option. Trading bank fees against security I guess.

If you timed it right it could be a nice little earner.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:35 | 1307002 Ecoman11
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You don't need to buy a cop. You just buy-off a maid.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:40 | 1307004 Cleanclog
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I think it's a good time to dust off my old Drachmas.  New sheriff coming to town.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 00:41 | 1307952 edotabin
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Yeah....get your old bills, get a sharpie and write "NEW" right next to the picture of Zeus. :-)

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:41 | 1307007 Cdad
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You know, and when these stories are breaking left and right, we brother's often mockingly say of it, "Bullish!"  Dispensing with the irony of it, I would suggest here that the more chaos sewn into the IMF, the more truly bullish it is for JUSTICE and RIGHTEOUSNESS and TRUE PRICING.

So more of it, please.  More revelations of entitlement crimes, please.  MORE!

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:24 | 1307134 knowless
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whatever happened to the league of nations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:League_of_Nations_Anachronous_Map.PNG

see one of those that was never a member? they played sort of a big role up until recently..

for real though, the chaos will spawn a new order based on those who actually produce, tis inevitable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5PESJgUHx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6cMkhhqn6k

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:40 | 1307014 ebworthen
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Has no one suggested we get rid of the IMF altogether?

Do we need a good world war to come to our senses?

 

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:42 | 1307021 cossack55
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Add the World Bank, ECB, HSBC, UBS, JPM and GS and ya got a deal.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 20:19 | 1307296 living on the edge
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Add the BIS while you're at it.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:18 | 1307650 topcallingtroll
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Actually we kinda sorta need a world trade clearingness.

It just shouldnt be run by thieving, corrupt Swiss.

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 07:05 | 1308262 matrix2012
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yet it's the most prosperous nation [with the highest income per cap]! Or should it be called the richest thief :D

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:31 | 1307157 nmewn
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"Has no one suggested we get rid of the IMF altogether?"

Thank you.

I've never been a fan of bio-engineering larger parasites when the small ones cause enough misery to the host as it is.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:45 | 1307018 rockraider3
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Uh Oh.  Did skynet just gain self-awareness?  The Western powers have lost control of their machine.   Who tries to pull the plug?  Not the US, we are a bunch of pansies.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:43 | 1307022 lizzy36
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Bastard

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:54 | 1307055 Cheesy Bastard
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The Bastard family has a diverse and dubious history.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:43 | 1307023 InconvenientCou...
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"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate."

Sun Tzu

Stupidity can seem clever if you use big words. A thick accent helps too. And above all keep your pimp-hand strong -The most interesting man in the world AKA DSK
Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:53 | 1307042 Rainman
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I didn't know there were Jews in China

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:55 | 1307226 Optimusprime
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The Li family?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:52 | 1307050 Cult_of_Reason
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If BRICs want to run IMF, it is fine with us. The only condition we will take our money back and let the BRICs fund IMF without us.

How much China or Russia contributes to IMF?

 

0.00001% or 0.0001%?

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:15 | 1307109 Babushka
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Each member of the IMF is assigned a quota, based broadly on its relative size in the world economy, which determines its maximum contribution to the IMF’s financial resources. Upon joining the IMF, a country normally pays up to one-quarter of its quota in the form of widely accepted foreign currencies (such as the U.S. dollar, euro, yen, or pound sterling) or Special Drawing Rights (SDRs). The remaining three-quarters are paid in the country’s own currency. Quotas are reviewed at least every five years. Ad hoc quota increases of 1.8 percent were agreed in 2006 as the first step in a two-year program of quota and voice reforms. Further ad hoc quota increases were approved by the Board of Governors in April 2008, resulting in an overall increase of 11.5 percent. The 2008 reform came into effect in March 2011 following ratification of the amendment to the IMF’s Articles by 117 member countries, representing 85 percent of the IMF’s voting power.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 20:21 | 1307276 Cult_of_Reason
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Yeh, this is a very good idea to let communist China or corrupt Russian oligarchy to determine how to spend other people’s money (mostly US, EU and Japan) at the IMF.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 21:05 | 1307428 Jendrzejczyk
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"....."

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 19:19 | 1307131 Zeilschip
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Cry baby. Boohoo!!

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:11 | 1307640 topcallingtroll
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Actually the brics are the crybabies here, wanting something for nothing.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 21:27 | 1307489 Itsalie
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"take our money back" as in Ben's toilet paper? Take it back please, its dirty. BRICS have got oil, coal, gold, iron, rare earths. You are funding euro crisis and your lehan/squids with funny money dude, wake up, those greenback in your pocket are lighter vthan your pea brain

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 22:09 | 1307633 topcallingtroll
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Then brics can put up or shut up.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:55 | 1307057 Hedgetard55
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Whoever they nominate, let's hope he can keep it in his pants for more than two hours.

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 21:12 | 1307433 goldfreak
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how about bubba clinton to run the IMF?

Wed, 05/25/2011 - 01:31 | 1308000 sethstorm
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You might as well be putting someone from China in with any Clinton. 

Tue, 05/24/2011 - 18:58 | 1307059 treasurefish
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I am now very confident in my long SLV position.  Thanks.

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