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Cornyn On The White House Stasi Solicitation, Or Would McCarthy Love flag@whitehouse.gov? (Hint: Yes)
Senator Cornyn foolishly thinks McCarthyism has no place in 2009. And here we were, happy recipients of the first one million flagged complaints in less than 24 hours...
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Wow... that letter was just wrong on so many levels .... so I did my AMERICAN duty and sent it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
Your attitude is fishy. I am too busy right now. Can someone else report you to flag@whorehouse.gov?
I'll do it.
It's been a long time since I...flag@whorehouse.gov
I didn't open it.
It was a harmless pun. There is no email domain whorehouse.gov. No private citizen or meany can register it.
Cheeze, you folks are paranoid. Course with such stupidity on the part of this administration, raving, foaming, paranoia is the new normal. There is a surplus of reasons to be paranoid.
Hahaha...you've got me Printfaster
What was I thinking?
Oh yeah! I was paranoid.
Is there any truth to that?
...just because you are paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't watching you....
Noted.
It's only paranoia if it ends up not being true. Appears more and more true with each passing day.
Whorehouse.gov is Newspeak. For you Proles, think " congress.gov "
CLICK THE ADS, SUPPORT THE SERVERS...
TD?
good reminder...i clicked 2x
We have to stay alert.
-Joe Welcome-
A lawyer points out some the of legal implications of the "fishy" policy of the BHO Admin.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/08/024209.php
If it were Clinton, I would be concerned he was looking to contact fishwives for a date.
With this president, him looking for fishy, is more like looking for seared ahi with a side of arugula.
Seriously, this administration is the administration that cannot shoot straight. Even if it is fish in a barrel.
"You are now entering the twilight zone.
The year is 1951..."
This is not even funny enough for SNL, I don't know if you can create a massive lawsuit on this, but it's outrageous! That's exactly what Warren said about the govt having society spy on each other. They think they've seen heated townhalls....just wait
This is all about the TownHall reactions so far. They can't fathom how so many simpletons have so much information on this, and why it doesn't match their Official Talking Points As Dictated By The Director. It must be coordinated by someone, and they must find out who.
Give Pelosi some credit - she left the flipside of the laminated colored index cards given to each Congressmen blank for a good reason, so that they could have room to fill in new and/or updated Official Talking Points As Dictated By The Director.
Cornyn, is my senator. He and all the faux conservatives are an embarrassment as if they care about the constitution. Almost everything they do is unconstitutional and now he is worried about privacy and freedom of speech.
Scumbags all of them are scumbags except Kucinich, Sanders and Paul. They are all consistent and I disagree with all of them but respect them as they are not bought.
With you.
Cornyn's my Senator as well and I agree with the faux conservative comment, BUT I actually read the letter and it's pretty good. AND, he is the only Senator who has bothered to call the BHO administration on this. I'd recommend doing what I do. Print and distribute it. People are generally ignorant of this crap. Let them see what their idiot president really is. Don't even think about reporting this comment to flag@crackhouse.gov. I use an IP mask. I am not who you think I am. Hell, I'm not even who I think I am.
The problem with the letter is he talks about "tradition" of free speech, and does not assume limitation of presidential power. Oman exceeds the limits of constitutional authority with impunity.
Cornyn is all about extension of executive authority, though. This is how they getcha, like "either cap'n trade, or carbon tax" false dichotomy. or, single payer v. the big ins., how about no authority to nationalize health care.
They end by compromising all the way to hell. He doesn't realize he also is trashing the Constitution with his negative assumptions.
I wish some of the more paranoid users of zerohedge take your comment very seriously.
This is one of the things that hasn't changed from Bush to Obama. Bush's administration actively pursued policies and practices consistent with the notion that the executive branch has infinite powers. Obama's administration just picked up where Bush left off.
Of course, getting congress to deny the Executive branch infinite authority is the other side of the problem.
Exactly why we can never lose the second amendment; the right to keep and bear arms.
As Twain said, history rhymes. What rhymes with 1776. Never say never.
Economic fix rhymes with 1776.
Komrade Pelosi fully intends to maintain your right to keep sleeveless t-shirts, indeed.
Wow
Wow
Wow
I can just imagine Krugman's op-ed the next morning if Bush had done this.
I just sent myself in to flag@whitehouse.gov for a brand new "fishy" rumor about his health care plan that I decided to start after reading about this new WTF speech monitoring plan...
Awesome thanks MinnesotaNice! This fishy s@#$ is terrifying: let's turn those in charge of the flag@whitehouse into homeland security for terrorizing the US citizens with this clear as daylight intimidation!
This isn't even funny ... i would recommend to the readers of this blog to talk to someone who lived in Germany during Hitler ... it started with shit like this ( and with the shit Bush has done ) and no one thought it was worth mentioning, but then it grew exponentially and finally you didn't know will your neighbour turn some made up bullshit on you to the SS or not ... it was paralyzing fear ... DO NOT THINK IT CANT HAPPEN AGAIN JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE YEAR 2009 ... the same line of thinking was prevalent back then ..
You're right, this isn't funny at all. This is serious business. I turned myself in by emailing the White House, directing them to my blog where I write "fishy" things about the health care bill. I encourage all Americans to send the Declaration of Independence to flag@whitehouse.com
DONE
Remember this is not the bush/cheyney group anymore, we're dealing with chicago style gangstas now. I'll report myself tomorrow after I have a say on my blog about this one.
The Chicago Way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0RLyxP13o
The Chicago Way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0RLyxP13o
Don't yo mean the south side of Chicago way?
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/jim+croce/bad+bad+leroy+brown_20071475.html
Remember this is not the bush/cheyney group anymore,
I disagree. It's the same. Different party, slightly different tactics. Obama is operating under the same notion, infinite executive power.
I voted the Obama ticket but didn't have much hope for change.
is it wrong to also rickroll them?
http://capitalistpreservation.com/cms/blog/gloves-are
I agree... the government has grossly overstepped it boundaries... I always wondered what it must feel like to stand-up to the government in countries where you could lose your life or liberty for speaking out against the government... I'm getting a glimmer of what that must be like. But, just the same Cheeky Bastard I think I am going to have to report you to flag@whitehouse.gov because I really don't think you are supporter of the health care plan and have a high risk of spreading disinformation :-)
no need i have already reported myself about 50 times in the last 10 min, and did so just because i had sinister thoughts about the health care plan ,,,
this move from murdoch to charge for news sites is scary as well. that is an attempt to shut/slow down the bloggers (can't cite for free if you have to pay). we'll have to turn back to TV for information, which we know is a terrible place for anything resembling truth.
/sigh
rr
They Thought They Were Free :
http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html
About post WW2 Germans explaining how they thought they were free.
my grandad was in the SS ( no im not proud of it ) but when he was talking about that period he said it was either that or a long vacation in some concentration camp. they used propaganda techniques to indoctrinate them, they used fear of their friends turning them in for grand treason etc. and yes they thought they were free ..
"They thought they were free"... I will have to give that some long thought over the weekend...
Aha. And your second hand experience of fascism in Europe tells you that of all the U.S. administrations you have seen at large with the second amendment, it is Barack Obama's that poses the real threat to free speech. Give me a brake. Who was it again that imposed all those wonderful home security laws flagrantly spitting in the face of amendment 2 and the constitution? What were you doing then? Sending letters to Dick Cheney?
I am not saying that this federal solicitation of "fish" is meaningful or lawful. But likening the Obama administration to Nazi-Germany or McCarthyism is just as stupid. If you oppose Obama health care plans, say it. Better yet, make an alternative suggestion of how this immense social problem that couldn't be successfully addressed for decades now can be solved in a responsible fashion. But please folks: Don't spam this unique blog with intellectual garbage.
actually, quite a few of the elements in the PATRIOT Act were legislatively attempted during the second Clinton Administration. it just couldn't pass Congress. blaming Bush/Cheney for it (and believe me, I'm not a B/C fan), is refusing to acknowledge the deeper problem. to use a medical metaphor, it is attempting to treat the symptom, rather than attempting to treat the cause.
Also not a fan of B/C. Would point out that it was Clinton who instituted Extraordinary Rendition as well.
I'm no fan of anyone and wasn't blaming B/C for this. I just find the sudden love for civil rights among the financially/politically literate quite astonishing. No such thing was heard from those ranks before a black president with an impeccable record of understanding and supporting these rights has gotten serious on healthcare (and some nitwits in his administration smelled "fish" in the discussion). However: No matter how stupid this fish-initiative is: Likening it to fascist/nazi/socialist-type totalitarianism is not only historical bullshit, it is also just hopping the moronic agenda of those who have opposed any form of healthcare politics for decades.
so, some suppression of free speech is ok, as long as it is by fellow citizens at the urging of the Executive branch of the government? i just want to make sure i understand your point.
Your specious attempt to rim a fundament , yada yada, compartmentalize this , comrade. Obama does not matter as an individual, and freedom is antithetical to the bee hive he represents, and no not as a queen.
sociologically,America is a hermetic society, and has not experienced a threat similar to Europe in all of its 233 yrs of being a Republic. You have never had an internal threat imposed by your own government, and that gives you zero credibility in identifying anti-democratic trends. Again, time is static, and also is human nature, and nothing change significantly in either individual or systemic behaviour. Power yields more power, and that power yields even more power. Until the power becomes universal and all democratic tendencies cease to be implemented. This flag thing is a neo-totalitarian method to impose systemic fear and re-enforece the power of a centralized government and suppress the freedom to express your opinion and to oppose the governmental measures, so that you don't speak against the establishment because you don't know who will report you, and what will their reasons be. Again, the same pattern is recognizable in every centralized society when it went into transition to a totalitarian one. So you have no right to call my observation a intellectual garbage just because you read something about totalitarian regimes in some books, or took some courses in history while you were in college. i have lived trough one of those totalitarian societies and participated in bringing another one down. And i talk from experience, not from speculative prepositions which are drawn from some history book. Again, talk to the Holocaust survivors and ask them if the see any resemblance to Germany. Go ahead ask them what they think about all the measures Bush enacted and which go against the US constitution, plus all the measures that went under the public radar. Try to research idiomatic similarities between Germany and present day US. Just because you THINK it cant happen here, doesn't mean that it cant happen here. History is cyclical, and i really hope you will not have to experience that.
I'd love to respond in more detail and agree with most of what you say, but I gotta run and cook some food for the family. The only thing I am trying to say is this: Look at the context of this Stasi/Nazi/McCarthy-discussion going here. The agenda is and has always been to discredit a dearly needed healthcare discussion by discrediting an administration and its political supporters. True, this fish-initiative is absolutely moronic and very likely unconstitutional. But really, let's give ourselves a brake: The personal and political differences between the likes of Mussolini, Hitler, McCarthy, Stalin, Honnecker (sp?) and Barack Obama could not be greater. The economic and technological differences to these times ditto. (Sorry, gotto run, BTW I am not a U.S Citizen and do not live in the states.)
"The personal and political differences between the likes of Mussolini, Hitler, McCarthy, Stalin, Honnecker (sp?) and Barack Obama could not be greater."
I'll agree with you on the personal differences front, but challenge you to detail the significant political philosophical differences between BHO, fascist Italy, and Nazi Germany (and don't fall back on the Jew-hate thing, that was a sociological phenomenon used as a political lever).
An objective review will show that "progressives" are pretty much cut from the same mold as far as their political philosophy goes, whether they be from Treaty of Versailles-era Europe/Russia or the good ol' US of A.
+5
"... but challenge you to detail the significant political philosophical differences between BHO, fascist Italy, and Nazi Germany".
I am sure that your conviction that this is all pretty much the same and your unawareness of differences must be a challenge to your hairdresser. Sorry dude, I am quite unchallenged. But yes, in the long run, entropy will take its toll on you and me the same.
+1 cheeky.
Cheeky - you might want to read Peikoff's book The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff. He outlines how the Nazi statist regime turned a free people against itself, within it's own mind by using the same kinds of congnitively dissident psychology and philosophy we are witnessing today. It is shocking for me to watch so many professionals (lawyers, doctors, business people) fall into this trap. It seems only the engineers and quants I know are immune.
http://www.amazon.com/Ominous-Parallels-Brilliant-parallels-pre-Hitler/d...
I've said for years - the best slave is the slave who thinks he's free.
I've also said : debt is the modern form of slavery. Wage slaves, debt slaves - what percentage of the western world is in this state of perpetual slavery?
Ever wonder why the banks don't point out that paying your mortgage on a weekly basis (instead of one big monthly payment) can reduce your mortgage payments without increasing the length of the mortgage and/or save the borrower (often) hundreds of thousands of dollars in interest payments?
Ever wonder why the government hasn't even mentioned this simple idea? Or forced the banks to take action on it - especially for prime borrowers? A long-term and short-term stimulus of epic proportions. Oops - the banks loose some profits. No go.
Thanks, ZH, for providing a place where the current rip-off can be monitored in real time.
Send them a flag - a picture of Abraham Lincoln and a picture of the American flag?
This flag stuff will probably do more international damage to the credibility of the US dollar than all the debt so far. Just my opinion.
peaceful thoughts from
Namke von Federlein
couldn't agree more cheeky. once the infringement of certain inalienable rights is allowed by the citizenry (which has already happened multiple times in US), we're not even talking about a slippery slope any longer. we have moved FAR beyond the slippery slope.
Very few people know many facts about the Gestapo( GeheimStaatsPolizei) they just have a vague fear inpsired by two generations of TV conditioning.
1. Most Personnel were women file clerks who compiled and maintained the vast database of information, not the black trench coat clad agents shown an der Tele.
2. That information was derived from an immense network of local informants who were not part of the "G" per se.
3. This entire model was derived from the soviet system as it was quite successful in discovering and destroying opponents even if the collateral damage to legitimate target ratio was >> 1.
4. The head of the G, Heinrich Muller, was never caught. It is believed that he escaped to the Soviet Union by way of his "professional contacts" in the soviet secret police. Much like quitting JPM for a better job at GS.
5. When the G was founded a core segment of the original members came from the IG Farben industrial espionage unit.
6. There were a number of "POs" but the Gestapo( thanks to an anonymous German mail clerk) got all the notoriety.
Source: "Gestapo, Instrument of Tyranny"
Here is one of the most Fishy things I've seen yet ---> http://www.mortie.net/journal/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/abe-vigoda.jpg
Rahm once mailed Abe Vigoda to a political enemy.
I for one am reporting from different email addresses as many youtube videos like these I can find.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoPyQYUE4iA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KANI2dpXLw
In other news a judge denied the BofA / SEC settlement... lol, awesome.
i read the article on wsj online earlier tonight....the judge's comments were interesting. this has the potential to get better. it's nice to see that certain judges respect that whole "checks and balances" thingee and won't just sign off on executive dep't consent decrees.
McCarthygizm you said? Jenny McCarthy is so smokin.
Don't you hate it when your president makes Alex Jones look like a prophet?
lol ... but i really wouldnt like to see a video titled " Alex Jones was right " filled with FEMA concentration camp footage, being streamed on some underground video service ...
i know i know, i will report myself
flag@whitehouse.gov
that inbox will soon have more emails than shares traded by HFTs in a month.
p.s. rahm you phucker, your fingerprints are all over this one.
lol about the HFT stuff
and yeah Rahm, you zionist prick, FUCK YOU
agreed.. YELLING REALLY REALLY LOUDLY. GO FUK YOURSELF RAHM ROD!
holy fa-jesus. it's one thing to think there MIGHT be a crass dictator wannabe in the white house, but it's quite another to discover it's not just a conspiracy theory. I felt similar, yet not as strongly with bush... this is way more of a red flag, (wow -- none of those puns are intended, but now, if the shoe fits...)
I'm afraid that we might soon be longing for the days of the bumbling Bush presidency again...
Oh who gives a damn? Start writing about the deflationary downward spiral in America. At least they're facing up to it in Japan. Here, no.
TOKYO, Aug 6 (Reuters) - The Bank of Japan will probably forecast three years of deflation extending to March 2012 as weak domestic demand is seen capping economic growth, sources with direct knowledge of the matter said, which could delay its exit from its current low interest rates.
The central bank already expects Japan's core consumer price index (CPI) to fall 1.3 percent in fiscal 2009 and drop 1.0 percent in fiscal 2010 which ends in March 2011. It will issue its price forecast for the year to March 2012 on Oct. 30.
With economic growth expected to remain anemic due to weak final demand, there is a high possibility that consumer prices will remain negative in fiscal 2011 too, at least three sources said on condition of anonymity.
yet, the nikkei rallies.
rr
of course it rallies, its all fucking green shoots and goddamn hopium
lol..thanks I need a good lol.
In case anyone wants to cut and paste the First Ammendment into an email to flag@whitehouse.gov here it is:
First AmendmentCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Minnesota,
I agree... I am going to start sending the Obama's own press releases to this website- with an intro describing how the ideas are crap. I think it would be awesome if a lot of people did the same thing for Project Mayhem.
The Stasi did similar stuff in East German. Informants were give privilages. Maybe Obama's informants will get the ability to buy some GM cars?
stfu
stfu racking up the junk count again. ding...ding....ding...
Agree with the emphasis on Hussein to tag the post... however the corners of your mouth have to go up just a little with the thought that Saddam would have a new admiration for Obama in coming up with a plan to have dissidents reported through confidential government email... the saddest thing about this entire situation is that it was the United States government who may have been the first to come up with an email plan to report dissidents... the Beacon of Democracy... jesus I have to get a new country to live in.
Agreed... this issue has nothing to do with racism and we should be respectful of everyone's name... with the exception of Ann Coulter who is clearly a different species and gender from anything I have ever seen... she is one scary ?woman?
Maybe she is one of those species that can mate with themselves and don't require the opposite sex to produce offspring...
you mean maggots
if this isnt an Adams apple i dont know what it is
Hussein is his fn name, you gimp.
appropriate use of the man child Tim Robbins as your avatar
Meant to say I disagree with using Hussein to tag the post...
Since when is it insensitive to refer to a President by all three of their given names?
I must disagree with you here A.D. regarding the use of his full name. Barry used alone might be considered disrespectful for a sitting President. By the way, we don't know what his legal name is since we haven't seen any documents. He was registered in elementary school and at Occidental college as Barry Soetoro (his mom married a guy with that last name - assuming he adopted him and Barrack took his last name). After his mom divorced, he changed his name back and apparently felt the middle name was important to use (not sure if legally changed or not). The name really is not important, I think attempts to downplay it seem odd. People should be proud of their name, history, heritage, etc.
Agreed, more than appropriate with him.
-Manchurian Candidates do people!-
heck is that his true name? was he even born in the united states?
you are way too "pc", that is his name. TD didn't give it to him.
Damn, there goes US productivity for the month of August... Might want to start working on the new formula adjustment now.
Here are some suggestions that seem fishy:
http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv128/followthecircledown/MACROS/Poly...
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s84/Meander_2007/43827648.jpg
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu310/housedemsgirl/youngrahmballerin...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y190/IndesElfwine/slide_619_12706_large...
ha ha fucking Rahm is a goddamn double barrel ... but i don't know whats worse, having an image of him in my head him going down on Bawney Fwank or on Pelosi ..
Poofect!
Now I don't know about the rest of you but I am wondering what he means by disinformation. For example don't you actually have to read the contents of the bill before you can make an assertion about the validity of the information others are presenting?
Now I don't know about the rest of you but I am wondering what he means by disinformation. For example don't you actually have to read the contents of the bill before you can make an assertion about the validity of the information others are presenting?
I found this seditious statement on the web:
"It is evident from these considerations, that the plurality of the Executive tends to deprive the people of the two greatest securities they can have for the faithful exercise of any delegated power, first, the restraints of public opinion, which lose their efficacy, as well on account of the division of the censure attendant on bad measures among a number, as on account of the uncertainty on whom it ought to fall; and, secondly, the opportunity of discovering with facility and clearness the misconduct of the persons they trust, in order either to their removal from office or to their actual punishment in cases which admit of it.
Oddly enough this applies here. Whoever put this out needs to be called to account, and is not being called out by the president. This statement also applies to the installation of the "czars". This is the insidious corruption of "the bureaucracy.
Tyler, I sense sarcasism in this posting. Given how important a task the government is trying to undertake, I feel it is my duty to report you. Doing this anonymously is even more dangerous. While I'm at it, I should probably report myself.
Seriously, this is scary stuff. Wonder how long talk radio will be around.
talk radio? heck what about the internet , as we have known it?
This fella that won the Presidency? Well he might not even be a citizen, and with a Kenyan father, he certainly is not a 'natural born citizen' so he is a usurper.
He needs flagged.
As Bill Maher put it so succintly, the only people who spread these types of rumors are dummies talking to dummies. Get a clue.
oh yes, bill maher is such an erudite and knowledgeable source really worth citing and taking his words into consideration as an argument
Actually, he is.
to my standards he is not ...
So you are a fan of Lou Dobbs and the craze that he wasn't born in America Cheeky? Your IQ test is forthcoming.
If we are down to picking between Lou Dobbs and Bill Maher... gotta go with Bill on this one...
first of all i don't have slightest idea who the fuck Lou dobbs is. and second of all your reasoning is false, because a) i am not an American, and thus i actually don't draw my arguments from someone who only appears on TV, i base my arguments either on a) mathematics, b) social sciences c) general observation. So please don jump into conclusion that im just another moron who learns things watching TV. i dont even have a tv. so you fail. second of all, when you cite someone, make sure he has a background which can validate him as a reliable source of knowledge. no one on tee vee has that. also it is both odd to me, and somewhat weird that me, a European dude, knows so much about the US and has an interest to see that this country actually succeeds and goes back to the path of its former glory, than many other posters here, or the general public in the US for that matter. And i can also say that i know the American constitution by heart, and im not even sure how many people in America can locate some European country on the map.
I think Doug Casey said that America was an idea but it is gone, there is only the united states.
I wouldn't go hoping too much for something that will never happen.
Howard_Beale = Mr. Ad hominem ad infinitum
bill is just a tool.
I think you are taking your sarcastic remarks to far. You cannot, after all, be serious.
Bill Maher is the anti-christ..with a small penis! I just reported him to whitehouse for showing the ass of a dog with the face of Jesus!
I wish Gore would send him to snoop on NK..and then you can go fetch him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UReMIrcb8E
the countryslide saga continues. ladies and gentlemen, i present you with the "friends of angelo"
get a rope.....
Countrywide!? An exec at Freddie Mac is literally fucking Barney Frank in the ass and we are talking about Countrywide!?
Countrywide!
Cheers,
prat
Nixonian.
I have this before and I'll say it again. Obama will be remembered as the worst President in the past 230+ years.
I can see it now Escape from USSA
I understand the motivations of the White House, and I don't think they're trying to be underhanded. There are a lot of "fishy" rumors about the proposed health reforms circulating. Regardless of whether you support or oppose the reform, the level of mis- and disinformation among the public is stunning. I'm confident that the White House is simply trying to get a better understanding of how these rumors are being circulated so they can respond more effectively.
That said, it was still a dumb, dumb press release.
If the attempt was put out more like, there will be a test on this, and if understand enough to pass I'll get extra (tax) credit, then that would accomplish the painstaking incentive, as positive reinforcement always works better than negative.
Damn, that was perfect satire until you added that last line and established seriousness.
like....(you're) a pain in the ass? true
I understand the motivations of the White House, and I don't think they're trying to be underhanded. There are a lot of "fishy" rumors about the proposed health reforms circulating. Regardless of whether you support or oppose the reform, the level of mis- and disinformation among the public is stunning. I'm confident that the White House is simply trying to get a better understanding of how these rumors are being circulated so they can respond more effectively.
Yes, and the tooth fairy, along with Santa and Peter Pan will come and restructure the US debt, prosecute the Wall Street, and make deficits the thing of the past ..
Obama is a constitional law scholar... if there is one president who would understand the potential of something like flag@whitehouse.gov it would be him... and I voted for the guy... either the administration is completely overwhelmed and directionless... or they have a complete inability to understand the enormity of their situation. we have 300 million people in our country who may or may not be disinformed or putting out disinformation... WTF kind of plan is flag@whitehouse.gov?
No offense MinnesotaNice, but I'd say you voted for form over substance.
Actually I would say it was desperation to escape from the Bush years... I voted for Bush also x2... I would say that my track record in selecting Presidents is somewhat impaired... I think I will sit out the next election.
Constitutional law scholar?
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Constitutional law scholarship consists, as near as I can tell, of a concerted effort to ignore this one, obvious amendment that even a 3rd grader could understand.
Cheers,
prat
"Woe to you, teachers of the law (and constitutional law scholars), you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
Look, your house is left to you desolate.
minnesotanotice:
"either the administration is completely overwhelmed and directionless... or they have a complete inability to understand the enormity of their situation."
or they are COMPLETELY aware of EXACTLY what they are undertaking.
Yes I agree that would be a third option... I hope it isn't the correct one however...
MN,
I guardedly share your hope.
Consitutional law scholar my f'g ass. He is of the Constitution is a "living document" ilk. Which means, the Constitution means whatever he says it means. His position on just the 2nd Amendment is indicative of his lack of understandsing of the Consitution. F him and all of his minions.
"Obama is a constitional law scholar."
In his own mind maybe, but nowhere else. This is one of the stupidest but most often-parroted talking points imaginable, and its purpose is to give his actions the glow of pre-approved Constitutionality. When the sonuvabitch (figuratively) burns the Reichstag, will that be based on his knowledge of the Constitution?
I am sure the Nazi's used your line of reasoning too: "Hitler is just trying to count the Jews, that is all".
Moron.
F
Howard im sorry to hear that.
But its the problem lays not with the health care companies, but with big industrial and service behemoths who lobby for this sort of legislation because it would put most of the small businesses out of business. And they want that. Wal-Mart, Target and the likes of them are lobbying hard for this legislation to pass.
You are mixing corporate interests with corporate interests. Are you long Humana?
this is precisely the totalitarian modus operandi i expected from rockefeller tool barry soetoro barrack hussein obama, kenyan born indonesian citizen usurper of the presidency......
Are you Michele Bachmann or the "crazy birther lady"?
no he is just being factual in an indie sort of way
Whoa. What's that smell? Is some one digging up J. Edgar Hoover?
I turned myself in. Dang, now I'm wating for the secret service to turn up with a MIB flashy-thing to give me a new memory.
I turned myself in too, but I asked for rehabilitation. Waiting for an ACORN volunteer to show up at my door with Obama Healthcare free electroshock therapy. I will welcome it.
jim, if thst happens, then meet them at the door with that 38, you just got out of the cookie jar...
I emailed this to them:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
and recommended, in particular, they look at the 10th modification of the document. Blatant, ugly, unrepentant anti-health care reform propaganda, probably put out there by a conglomerate of evil insurance companies.
Can't be too careful, kids. Keep your eyes open.
Cheers,
prat
Obama = Chavez
I signed up that email address for a lot of spam. Was that wrong?
Thats funny... maybe there are other things out there that we could sign that email up for... any ideas?
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